When wardeccing a corp, the corp has the ability to bribe the faction police to hunt down the wardecers, so everyone is be hunting and be hunted.

Since the wardeccing has no draw back for the Wardeccing Corp lets add one.
When wardeccing a corp, the corp has the ability to bribe the faction police to hunt down the wardecers, so everyone is be hunting and be hunted.
As for the cost to bribe should be same as the wardec itself, since if you want to expanded to whole Highsec you need to bride the 4 faction police.

When you see a corp or alliance regularly has many dozens of active war decs, including against alliances, then clearly these things are far too inexpensive.

Op is moaning about war spamming, which has become problematic in the last year.
Yes it was around beforehand but it's only been problematic since some clever clogs forced an issue.

Without an alternative we're only going to compound the issue.


So don't, I didn't.

Edit: also ganking is irrelevant as far as this discussion is concerned.

When I was totally new, I briefly joined a corp. But the same day I joined, the corp was wardeced, and I was advised to leave to save from being needlessly attacted. All I was taught was that in hisec, 'joining a player corp'='bad'.

I would still be reluctant to join any player corp (officially), since I wouldn't want to drop corp every time I go to hisec for any length of time.

I agree with the OP that there is a problem...

Wardecs don't affect me, but other than for POS bashing, I personally don't consider them of value to helping participation in the game..

And yet you just did. Huh. Guess that speaks volumes to your credibility then.

Quote me

Like that? That spot right there where you suggested you could talk about meaningful and functional war decs and how much they should cost without also discussing how Concord/War decs/Ganking are balanced but ignore the mechanics/effects of ganking in the equation of that balance?


Almost as if you wanted to suggest discussing color theory and the meaning of orange, but purposefully ignore the meanings of yellow, which is one of the 2 primary colors that make it up, because you think turning orange a bit more blue solves the problem you have with orange?
Where did he say any of that?

Also, it's very easy to tell when someone has no real argument. They go looking for analogies of stupid out of game things, because they can't provide a relevant EVE related argument.

Maybe owning a Corp is too cheap.

If Corps cost a lot more, then perhaps people would only invest in them when they really need too and there'd be more interest in defending a war, which would then require fewer wars to achieve the content levels that wardeccers look for.

If you want to fix blanket wardecs then you have to give back the ability to make targeted wars. The fix is simple, when you run a locator agent if the target is offline it simply says "the target has gone to ground".

Maybe owning a Corp is too cheap.

If Corps cost a lot more, then perhaps people would only invest in them when they really need too and there'd be more interest in defending a war, which would then require fewer wars to achieve the content levels that wardeccers look for.

That is the progression that lead to where we are now.
You want to stop wardec alliances? Make war cheap.

That's your job.

Players getting into pvp is what keeps people playing. Noobs used wardecs to first try out pvp in a relatively small and familiar environment. They cut their teeth in hunting and pvp skills against other high sec corps.

The costs to start a war are indeed to cheap.

- Start a new character
- Buy a skillbook & train it to L1 500.000 isk / Trainable for AlphaGÇÖs
- Start your own corp1.500.000 isk
- Start a / multiple wars2.500.000 isk / per war

Total:4.500.000.

In what universe are Wardecs 2.5 million ISK?

Since CCP is presumably working on a much more advanced AI for NPCs, allow the defending corp to purchase NPC defenders who will show up (like CONCORD) whenever a member of the corp is attacked by a War Deccer.

**** NO. EVE is a PvP game. If you want allies to help you win PvP fights then find some other players to fight with you. At no point should you ever be able to use NPCs to replace those player interactions.

theres no way in hell you are getting pets.

Of course you've already seen my opinion of those "PvPers" who think War Deccing typically non PvPers is respectable, honorable, or anywhere near good PvP.

I'm curious what the loss to kill ratio is of those who War Dec Hi-Sec corps. I'm guessing 1 loss to every 100 kills or worse.

What's wrong with a little more challenge to even those odds?

Donna it's still the players job. Even if outnumbered a million to one, the attackers have put the effort and time into making it that way. It's the players job to protect themselves and make the wardeccers work for their content..

I agree with the OP that there is a problem but I don't know if raising the price is the answer. I'm not the one to ask. Until a couple of hours ago I didn't know a thing about wardecs and my oldest character was born in 2008.

I just got wardecced. I had to look up the rules. I found that I have to wait a week for it to be over. I then did some research into the corp that created the wardec. I found that they wardecced a number of other corps besides mine. And they did that yesterday, and the day before, and the day before that.

I'm sure this is old news to all of you but to me this is all new information.

I then checked into the corps that got wardecced along with mine. These guys must be on some kind of mailing list. Not only have they been wardecced over and over by the same corp but they have been wardecced over and over by a number of "hi-sec wardeccing corps". These corps appear to get one to two weeks of normal game play a month but still have to pay CCP for the full month.

If I was interested in PVP I would join a PVP corp in null-sec. I'm in hi-sec for a reason.

My suggestion is two-fold. I think a restriction should be put in place on how often a corp can harass you. Let's say they can mindlessly wardec you once or twice a year. I could live with that.

The second part of my suggestion is to vote with your money. I just canceled all five of my subscriptions. I can go play another game where I get to play every day I pay for. CCP doesn't care that I'm not happy about the wardec system. There are a lot of folks that aren't happy about it. My name is on the mailing list now. I have a decision to make, accept EVE for what it is or go play something else.