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Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.05.05 12:54:00 - [1] Just curious what a 1 year old character should have in total SP. Somewhere in the 13-15mil range? ------------------- Say What?
Arthalion Thoidon Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.05 13:05:00 - [2] Edited by: Arthalion Thoidon on 05/05/2007 13:01:33 There is no real "should have" amount of sp. But 13-15 mil sp after about 1 year doesn't sound too bad, here's why. I did some very, very rough calculations, using a char with exactly average attributes, learning V, basic learning skills at V and advanced ones at lvl4 and +3 implants. This char has a total of [39 + 5( 5+ 4) + 53) ] * 1.1 = 108.9 attribute points. Meaning this char will train on average 32.67SP/min or 17.17mil sp/year. Of course when you start you don't have all those learning skills trained so get rid of a few mil sp there and 13-15mil is about right. although there can easily be 1year old chars with 20% more or less SP due to training more learning skills, better impants and specialisation.
Zeonos Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.05 14:02:00 - [3] and some chars have lower attributes for something than other. so if you train social with low skills it takes longer than training a skill where you have high attributes. but normaly its around 1mil a month. Latest evemon
Kye Do'lan Gallente The Whitesands Consortium	Posted - 2007.05.05 14:29:00 - [4] It's prob more or less between 12-15 mil SP per year..I've played eve now for nearly 4 years and have 52 mil SP....thats a few years without any implants in 0.0 when +3's cost a fortune, but I'm catching up now
Ezra Gallente Calista Industries	Posted - 2007.05.05 15:37:00 - [5] My first year, it was about 10mill in (approximately) one year of play. Then I quit for two years. Since I came back, I've gained just over 14mill since last July. The advanced learning skills and reduction in implant prices have really improved skill training times. I have an alt that was created in July that now has 12.9mill SP. A one year old character will probably have between 10 and 15mill depending on attributes, skills trained in relation to those attribs, and how much they prioritized actually playing vs. sitting in a station training up the learning skills. The aforementioned alt did nothing but train learning skills for the first two months of its existence, and received nearly immediate implants. In a characters' second year, they can probably expect to see 15-20mill SP/year depending on attributes, assuming that all base learning skills were taken to 5 and advanced skills to 4 in their first year. ------------ Ezra Cornell
Iuvart Gallente Order of Celestial Knights	Posted - 2007.05.06 10:03:00 - [6] My char turned one year old about two weeks ago and at that time had somewhere around 14.5-14.75 M skillpoints. Since I train quite a lot of skills for which my attributes are not too great (bad per/will :/ ) I'd say up to 16 M ought to be possible in the first year, but only if you have advanced knowledge, which a new player has not. 13-15 M seems quite realistic though.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.07 01:11:00 - [7] every char starts with better attributes in some and worse in others so the actual time can vary now +3 implants arent affordable within the first month of someone playing (im sorry guys most of us dont play 12 hours a day even when we first start eve) first because of their cost and second because a player has many small costs that reduce their total isk a little. as well as getting the advanced skills right away if you have less than 10 million after a year you are doing something wrong but if you have over 15 million then you were babied for your first 2 months of playing at the very least (or someone told you everything about eve even befoer you began) ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
CaperPuts Minmatar Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.07 08:07:00 - [8] I'm 15 days or something like that over a year, and I'm nearing 14 mil. I also made a crappy mining alt that has 800k in skill points, so add that to it and I have almost 15 mil. I regret making that stupid alt.
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.07 09:31:00 - [9] Around 3 days till my birthday and I should break the 16 mil just at that day. I got implants very early though, had +3s by the first month and +4s since the 3rd month. Did my learning skills in month 2-3. But I played the game for half a year quite some time ago, so I knew what to do. Mostly. I originally made this char with the aim of going for command ships & gang implants but switched over to recons after a few months into the game. If I had put some more attribute points into int than will and char I would have prolly 17m now.
RiotRick Black-Sun Insomnia.	Posted - 2007.05.07 10:09:00 - [10] Edited by: RiotRick on 07/05/2007 10:05:23 I'm an 11 months (+3 days) old character. Atm I'm at 12.2mln skillpoints. So add just over 1 mln for the 12th month. Will get me at around 13.5mln skillpoints at 1 year.
Lilly Boyter Amarr Boyter Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.07 11:13:00 - [11] I'm about 11 months now and I am nearing the 16 mil (+4 implants all my life) Unless you are targeting a certain type of skills where you have very high attributes in (like gunnery & spaceship command (for me)) you will usualy end up getting about 13 to 16 mil skill points a year. If you spend most time training your best skills for your chooice of attributes you can go to about 20 to 23 mil a year. The top skillpoint characters are 4years old now and as you can see on ineve.net they have about 80mil skill points...
pandymen Caldari Red Dwarf Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.05.07 19:33:00 - [12] Yes, and when you look at the people at the top of the list...they train skills they don't need or use just to get the exact sp spec for max sp gain.
Ogdru Jahad Amarr Hookers and Black Jack Flaming Hookers	Posted - 2007.05.07 19:33:00 - [13] at 1 year old i will be over 18m sp. at 2 years old I should be 38-39m sp. - .
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.05.07 20:36:00 - [14] Originally by: Roy Batty68 Just curious what a 1 year old character should have in total SP. Somewhere in the 13-15mil range? sounds about right, my main (this one) is 1 year 2 days old and has about 14m sp. I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot. Nice Isk. I'll take it.
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.05.07 20:37:00 - [15] Originally by: Ogdru Jahad at 1 year old i will be over 18m sp. at 2 years old I should be 38-39m sp. that's... quite a lot. How, may I ask? I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot. Nice Isk. I'll take it.
Kazuo Ishiguro	Posted - 2007.05.07 21:22:00 - [16] Planning & specialisation. If you create a character for a specific purpose and have them train only in skills that match their highest attributes, they'll do a lot better than most. Dr. Caymus, although primarily a science/industry specialist, has taken the time to max out his shield compensation skills, probably for this reason. ------ Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant tanking
Umit Davala Corpus PCG The State	Posted - 2007.05.08 01:22:00 - [17] I have dreadful attributes! And no implants (they give you cancer, I heard). I was on about 11 mil after 1 year.
Ogdru Jahad Amarr Hookers and Black Jack Flaming Hookers	Posted - 2007.05.08 02:59:00 - [18] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Roy Batty68 Just curious what a 1 year old character should have in total SP. Somewhere in the 13-15mil range? sounds about right, my main (this one) is 1 year 2 days old and has about 14m sp. did learnings right off the bat to adv lvl 4. got implants on day one. and this chr is a Abso pilot. no short cuts done. pure proper training. - .
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.05.08 07:45:00 - [19] Originally by: Ogdru Jahad Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Roy Batty68 Just curious what a 1 year old character should have in total SP. Somewhere in the 13-15mil range? sounds about right, my main (this one) is 1 year 2 days old and has about 14m sp. did learnings right off the bat to adv lvl 4. got implants on day one. and this chr is a Abso pilot. no short cuts done. pure proper training. Ah so it's not a "first" - you had isk from another character / alt to give implants from the get go? Not that there's anything wrong with that of course - I was just a bit shocked at the 18m you have at year one :) I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot. Nice Isk. I'll take it.
Malcanis High4Life	Posted - 2007.05.08 10:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Zeonos and some chars have lower attributes for something than other. so if you train social with low skills it takes longer than training a skill where you have high attributes. but normaly its around 1mil a month. Really? I calculate it to be roughly 1.5M/mo
Mike Yagon Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.08 12:26:00 - [21] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Ogdru Jahad Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Roy Batty68 Just curious what a 1 year old character should have in total SP. Somewhere in the 13-15mil range? sounds about right, my main (this one) is 1 year 2 days old and has about 14m sp. did learnings right off the bat to adv lvl 4. got implants on day one. and this chr is a Abso pilot. no short cuts done. pure proper training. Ah so it's not a "first" - you had isk from another character / alt to give implants from the get go? Not that there's anything wrong with that of course - I was just a bit shocked at the 18m you have at year one :) <shrug> I have a friend who has about that on his first character. Ofcourse, he received some, erm, sponsoring. My alt has 22m SP and just broke the 1 year time. +4 implants since day 3 or something, as soon as I got cybernetics trained up to the right level. ------ In Carebear We Trust
Soren PAK	Posted - 2007.05.08 14:24:00 - [22] 4 years old and coming up on 65M SP, that'd be ~16.25M/year ☠-->-->--
Thrass Caldari PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2007.05.09 07:46:00 - [23] been playing for 48 days and have 2,700,000 sp...so almost 1.7mill/month assuming 30 days in a month which would be in the neighborhood of 20million/year...i was 'sponsored' and got +3's pretty early and am about to get some +4's and my training follows my highest atts.
Ethion Amoral Self Promoters	Posted - 2007.05.09 08:04:00 - [24] Edited by: Ethion on 09/05/2007 08:01:53 56mil SP after 4 years. I had almost even attributes when I started, But wasnt able to get implants when they first came out. Plus I just played the game for the skillpoints factor for the first year.5 while I was in school, so I didnt know about the new learning skills when they were added. When I found out about them I trained em to 5 straight through then bought a set of +5 implants. So I trained about 9mil Sp my first year, 12mil my second, 16 my 3rd and June will be my 4th year coming up and I'll have trained 21mil Sp by then.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.09 11:36:00 - [25] Depends on where you live. Empire people - expecially those who don't do pvp - will have much higher sp in average after one year than those 0.0-pvpers that get in bubbls and lose their imps frequently and therefore don't use high implants.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.09 11:41:00 - [26] Edited by: Yakia TovilToba on 09/05/2007 11:40:29 Originally by: Thrass been playing for 48 days and have 2,700,000 sp...so almost 1.7mill/month assuming 30 days in a month which would be in the neighborhood of 20million/year...i was 'sponsored' and got +3's pretty early and am about to get some +4's and my training follows my highest atts. Yes but you forgot that you got like 800k sp when you started, so you didn't gain 1.7mil/month. edit: hope you understand what i mean ? if we exaggerate this it would be like a 1 day old char says: i play 1 day and have 800k sp, thats 24mil sp/month, in a year i'll have 576 mil.
Chronus26 Gallente Team Laser Explosion	Posted - 2007.05.09 12:48:00 - [27] One of my Characters will finish Recon Ships 5, and hit 16 mil Sp on his 1st Birthday (26th June). This was by no means my first character in eve, so for a 'original' charcater (like Chronus here) 15 mil SP by 1st Birthday is above average i'd say. I'm 2 years 3 months and I just passed 25 mil SP because I didn't train my learning skills properly till about 8 months - 1 year in. -----
Thrass Caldari PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2007.05.09 15:24:00 - [28] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Edited by: Yakia TovilToba on 09/05/2007 11:40:29 Originally by: Thrass been playing for 48 days and have 2,700,000 sp...so almost 1.7mill/month assuming 30 days in a month which would be in the neighborhood of 20million/year...i was 'sponsored' and got +3's pretty early and am about to get some +4's and my training follows my highest atts. Yes but you forgot that you got like 800k sp when you started, so you didn't gain 1.7mil/month. edit: hope you understand what i mean ? if we exaggerate this it would be like a 1 day old char says: i play 1 day and have 800k sp, thats 24mil sp/month, in a year i'll have 576 mil. lol...i went back and edited my statement after i thought about what i had calculated. too bad i could not get it fixed before anyone noticed!
Hockston Axe Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.09 17:53:00 - [29] The Eve Master Datasheet for skills gives a nice monthly/yearly min/max for SP's. For instance I can get anywhere from 15.9M to 21.7M SP a year with my current attributes and implants, depending on what I train.
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.10 11:25:00 - [30] Originally by: Soren 4 years old and coming up on 65M SP, that'd be ~16.25M/year Damn caldari and their perception... For a new character 15mil in the first year would be very well done indeed. I average at about 15mil a year.
triman247	Posted - 2007.05.11 06:10:00 - [31] Edited by: triman247 on 11/05/2007 06:25:25 Edited by: triman247 on 11/05/2007 06:12:22 I have been playing since August of 06 and I already have a little over 11 mil skill points. I trained learning very early and I ave had +3's for a very long time as well. I am getting about 2100 skill points an hour in drones, and it goes down from there. I had help though. some friends had been playing for about 3 months before I started so they told me what to do in the early days. triman
Dragon Lord Caldari research inc	Posted - 2007.05.11 07:52:00 - [32] Well im coming up a year and a month old and am nearly at 19m sp, ive maxed my learning and plugged in +5s though so that makes a difference. I suppose if you started a new char with the 800k sp to start and did learning and cybernetics 20m sp or more in year 1 is easily possible. That wuth rounded stats, if you had focused stats this could be quite a bit higher.
Crash 0verride	Posted - 2007.05.11 11:28:00 - [33] I started playing just before revelations came out, this was when you didnt start off with many skills, definatly no learning skills. its now been 6 months of playing and ive only really played it for 3 of those cus i took some time out to let my minning rank get to lvl 5 for my covetor, anyway i have 3.2 mil sp atm
Ogdru Jahad Amarr Hookers and Black Jack Flaming Hookers	Posted - 2007.05.11 15:20:00 - [34] Originally by: Dragon Lord Well im coming up a year and a month old and am nearly at 19m sp, ive maxed my learning and plugged in +5s though so that makes a difference. I suppose if you started a new char with the 800k sp to start and did learning and cybernetics 20m sp or more in year 1 is easily possible. That wuth rounded stats, if you had focused stats this could be quite a bit higher. if i had +5's and maxed out learnings i would be getting..2739 per hour and it dropping off from there. - .
Dragon Lord Caldari research inc	Posted - 2007.05.11 16:39:00 - [35] max i get is about 2450 or somthing like that but my attribs are spread out across all 5. When i made him i didnt know anything about eve so although charisma is my lowest atrib its only a point or two away from my next lowest attrib
Castra Noor	Posted - 2007.05.12 05:11:00 - [36] Originally by: Ogdru Jahad if i had +5's and maxed out learnings i would be getting..2739 per hour and it dropping off from there. Your character must have a strong concentration on few attrubutes then and that 2739 you receive only there. I've finished the learning skills on one of my other chars few weeks ago (they were 5+4 for long time, 5+5 now, except charisma, there still 5+4) and have a +5 set, resulting in attributes of I27,P27,C18,W26,M24. On its best skill (navitagion: 27/27) it does 2475 lp/h. For the stats: It's 1year and 1,5 months in game and has 20.7m sp, but should go faster now as those last attributes are at 5 now.
Hamatitio Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.12 05:56:00 - [37] IIRC my alt is currently training ~25mil sps/year Hijack this
Ogdru Jahad Amarr Ihatalo Internal Security Ihatalo Cartel	Posted - 2007.05.13 15:35:00 - [38] Originally by: Castra Noor Originally by: Ogdru Jahad if i had +5's and maxed out learnings i would be getting..2739 per hour and it dropping off from there. Your character must have a strong concentration on few attrubutes then and that 2739 you receive only there. I've finished the learning skills on one of my other chars few weeks ago (they were 5+4 for long time, 5+5 now, except charisma, there still 5+4) and have a +5 set, resulting in attributes of I27,P27,C18,W26,M24. On its best skill (navitagion: 27/27) it does 2475 lp/h. For the stats: It's 1year and 1,5 months in game and has 20.7m sp, but should go faster now as those last attributes are at 5 now. actually mine is as of present 2442 with +3's I will throw in +5's on the chrs 1st bday and max out learning. - .
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.14 03:31:00 - [39] lets put it this way a character that is well rounded and not a carebear with +5 implants will have 14 mill or less after a year you can have more sp but your character will not be so great at anything because to get say all pvp skills you wont just use perception and willpower and vice versa ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Gaius Sejanus Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.05.14 23:48:00 - [40] I keep track of my SP/Day ratio (I check about once a month or so). I first did it last July: 7 M 1 D (7/12/06): 9,499,175, 45,019 PPD On my 1 year anniversary I had: 1 Y (12//12/06): 17,125,830 Total, 46,920 PPD My last update was middle of April... 1 Y 4 M 7 D (4/18/07) 23,943,850 48,666 PPD The month calculations are generalized to a 30 day month year-round, so that can screw up the calculations a little bit. The 1Y calc was done as SP/365 since 1 year doesn't need to be aproximated :)
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.05.15 15:25:00 - [41] I must suck o.o Been here 4 years on and off (mostly off) finished 5/4 learning skills a year ago, and I've only got 14.5mil SP... -J --------------------------------- "He who 'hah hahs' last, 'hah hahs' best." - Nelson Balanced != Nerfed
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.15 17:16:00 - [42] Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban I must suck o.o Been here 4 years on and off (mostly off) finished 5/4 learning skills a year ago, and I've only got 14.5mil SP... no worries when you dont play all the time or even log on then its a little hard to get skills training ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Tian Jade Amarr Jades Falcon Guards	Posted - 2007.05.15 17:41:00 - [43] I am a little above one year old. My character was born, the day the new bloodlines were released, in March 06(I had waited for this day). Except Minmatar Transport Ships, she is fully Amarr specialised and with Perception and Intelligence as main Attributes. Skillpoints are nearly at 19 Million SP. I could have a little more if I had always implants, but I never more then +3 and most of the time even less and sometimes none. In the end, SP do not matter so much, but what you make of them.

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