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aknahra
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Posted - 2007.05.05 19:48:00 -
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So....i leave 8 ships in a pos.
6 get bumped out by supercapitals while im online in the pos, and stolen by pods.
With the changes to corporate hanger arrays this is BROKEN. There is NO counter to this.
This is the kind of **** you quit eve over, this is a completely broken game mechanic ccp FIX IT.
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Purgatori
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.05 19:49:00 -
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petition it
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Marquis Dean
Energy.
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Posted - 2007.05.05 19:49:00 -
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You know, I could swear there was an existing thread about this, right here on the front page of GD.
Nah, can't be. Must just be crazy things happening in my head.
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aknahra
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Posted - 2007.05.05 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: aknahra on 05/05/2007 19:51:48
actually not there isnt.
its pretty clear that its not an exploit to bump them out.
It is however to jump into a bubble to steal ships, it is the combination of bumping and stealing which is a clear loophole, and utter game breaking ****.
EDIT: My stealing the ships, the owner gets no insurance, making it a total loss, which is where the real outrage comes in.
what is clearly unintended use of gamemechanics has been not declared an exploit, combined with ship theft, its is utterly infuriating and uncounterable
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Chronus26
Gallente
Team Laser Explosion
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Posted - 2007.05.05 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: Chronus26 on 05/05/2007 19:50:27
 Originally by: aknahra
With the changes to corporate hanger arrays this is BROKEN. There is NO counter to this.
Elaborate please.
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Mr Bananas
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.05 19:54:00 -
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There have been conflicting reports from GMs about whether this is actually an exploit. CCP needs to have a consensus on whether this is actually an exploit or not. Because it seems unrealistic, unfair, and unintended, I'm hoping they categorize it as an exploit. |
Gobblock
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: Gobblock on 05/05/2007 19:54:32
I've seen this, its a load
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Del ReyII
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.05 19:59:00 -
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Quote this in your petition
"The following exploits were addressed in the Revelations 1.3 Patch Deployment:
* It is no longer possible to steal from a Starbase using a Carrier / Mothership / Titan."
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If the GM says its not an exploit, then escalate it.
This has to stop.
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Auron Shadowbane
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:20:00 -
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umm there is a theoretical counter to this which in return can even kill the respecitve supercpaital.
take a dead-star-ish pos with lotso guns.
anchor a few tec2 large warp bubbles just on the edge of the shield. one might be enough if placed well inside the shield if its possible.
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RedClaws
Amarr
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:21:00 -
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GM's don't give a crap tbh. All i ever get is the basic generated stuff.
They never helped me out before.
But then again : GM's can't decide to change the rules. They probebly need CCP's permission and thus we need to let CCP hear this and make it an exploit right away
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Exortius Amarrus
The Clearwater Society
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:31:00 -
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Yes, it's broken. Fix for now: ship maintanence array
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Kw4h
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:32:00 -
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Another movie
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This is a very clear issue. Bubbles were designed to keep hostile ships outside of the POS. Bubbles were also designed to keep the friendlies inside safe.
That means, that you shouldn't be able to affect anything inside the shields, when you're outside the shields.
I have another movie coming up with capital gangwarps jumping into a pos. The first with 4 capitals, the second with 10
How more obvious does it need to get?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:44:00 -
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Forgive me if i sound uninformed on such matter's , abit of a pos virgin. Can't you place ship's inside the ship maintenace array thingymabob? Thought they stored ships?
BoB vs the coalition of family value's |
Gobblock
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:47:00 -
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Don't play dumb, as the OP pointed out if a pos is put into reinforced with ships in the hanger they cannot be removed.
so, where exactly are you supposed to store your ships?
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Devious Syn
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Forgive me if i sound uninformed on such matter's , abit of a pos virgin. Can't you place ship's inside the ship maintenace array thingymabob? Thought they stored ships?
This is why decent folks hate your alliance. Your a bunch of exploiting A holes with dev's in your back pocket.
Your comment goes to show how much this game is broken and gives you cheaters more and more ways to cheat with every patch.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: fire 59 on 05/05/2007 20:51:34
Originally by: Gobblock
Don't play dumb, as the OP pointed out if a pos is put into reinforced with ships in the hanger they cannot be removed.
so, where exactly are you supposed to store your ships?
Hmmm, you must have missed the bit where i clearly said i was a pos virgin. Maybe should have put the ship's away before the pos was attacked, never understood why people leave so many cluttering up the pos anyway.
Edit - sigh , what's the point. Ask a simple question .........
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Gobblock
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Hmmm, you must have missed the bit where i clearly said i was a pos virgin.
You can't honestly expect anyone to believe that, given your background.
I smell a troll.
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Kw4h
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:55:00 -
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Captital gangwarp bump attempt
Do I need to say more?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.05 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gobblock
Originally by: fire 59
Hmmm, you must have missed the bit where i clearly said i was a pos virgin.
You can't honestly expect anyone to believe that, given your background.
I smell a troll.
Given my background??? I'm not into all that trolling malarky, i thought i asked a simple and decent question and got some rather curious replie's
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
[Maybe should have put the ship's away before the pos was attacked, never understood why people leave so many cluttering up the pos anyway.
Two wrong doesn't give one right...
It is obviously really bad gameplay to use such tactics and you, BoB, claim to be the top PvP alliance in the game?
I can only laugh about that.
If you can win without using all these exploits, then I would say well done, you guys are really good. But why is it that every and always we hear from such exploits and shady behaviour on large scale only from BoB? Shame on you! If I would be an elite PvP person in a top PvP corp/alliance and would learn of all this bull**** I would throw out those cheating idiots to clear the stained name.
A victory gained by unfair means is worth nothing. How can give it you ANY satisfaction? Don't you claim to test yourself against the best of the best? If you need to use exploits to win you are clearly not the best. Think about it.
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Royaldo
KVA Noble Inc.
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:10:00 -
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farjung said in another thread:
Concerning the issue of POS bowling:
"Several months ago when supercapitals were somewhat newer and shinier, we thought about the possibility and even tried it a few times. A few petitions later and we were asked to desist, which we did.
A couple of weeks ago I heard that Evil Thug had stolen a carrier from a POS using exactly this technique, and asked him if he had ever been told that it was an exploit by a GM. He said that on the contrary, Establishment had stolen ships from him at a POS previously using their nyx, and that he had been told that it was a legitimate use of game mechanics.
One of our titan pilots subsequently petitioned it to get the current official view on the matter, and was told that it was fine, despite being the source of a lot of petitions.
Since then, we've been taking the opportunity to do it every chance we get."
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Armenia Elclestis
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Forgive me if i sound uninformed on such matter's , abit of a pos virgin. Can't you place ship's inside the ship maintenace array thingymabob? Thought they stored ships?
Considering that you're in one of the most powerful 0.0 alliances and that it's your alliance doing this I find your projected chirpy ****-Van-Dyke-in-Mary-Poppins-esque innocence to be insulting.
Basically mate you can stick it up your arse because while you and yours make out to be holier than thou, in such interesting areas of the internet such as CAOD, you're also bending the rules to the absolute limit and then actively breaking them and still managing to be smack-talking mouthbreathers in Local.
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Cursed Ascendent
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:11:00 -
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I wonder how many of the self righteous on here would be doing the same if they could????
It always amazes me that there is a continued shouting of look what BOBs doing its an exploit. I would guess a lot of people have done this and will do this until its resolved as a bug or not. At the end of the day, here in this situation it just looks as if IRC are just real ****ed at having their systems under siege. With potential of loosing them in the not to distant future.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Armenia Elclestis
Originally by: fire 59
Forgive me if i sound uninformed on such matter's , abit of a pos virgin. Can't you place ship's inside the ship maintenace array thingymabob? Thought they stored ships?
Considering that you're in one of the most powerful 0.0 alliances and that it's your alliance doing this I find your projected chirpy ****-Van-Dyke-in-Mary-Poppins-esque innocence to be insulting.
Basically mate you can stick it up your arse because while you and yours make out to be holier than thou, in such interesting areas of the internet such as CAOD, you're also bending the rules to the absolute limit and then actively breaking them and still managing to be smack-talking mouthbreathers in Local.
 , wow. Despite the personal insult's and crap spewing from your mouth, i'm going to let that one go. If you want to throw insults in person, convo me and we can have aproper chat. you don't know me so don't talk utter bollox about me 
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:18:00 -
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Bumping ships out a pos shield (taking advantage of the pos shield throwing u out) is lame, but so are alot of things that are acceptable in EVE. till CCp say to the countrary, all you can do is bite your lip n try n work around it; & even use it to your own advantage when u can 
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Gobblock
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
[:shock:
, wow. Despite the personal insult's and crap spewing from your mouth, i'm going to let that one go. If you want to throw insults in person, convo me and we can have aproper chat. you don't know me so don't talk utter bollox about me
Anyone with half a brain knows you were baiting/trolling.
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Chewan Mesa
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:27:00 -
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Whats this change with Ship Maint Arrays? I thought only things using CPU were unusable/offline once the POS is in reinforced.
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Bananas
There have been conflicting reports from GMs about whether this is actually an exploit. CCP needs to have a consensus on whether this is actually an exploit or not. Because it seems unrealistic, unfair, and unintended, I'm hoping they categorize it as an exploit.
Meh ... it's not an exploit while only BoB and friends are doing it. When everyone has found out about it and starts doing it, it will be fixed.
Trolling? No - bitterness...
:-/
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Gobblock
Originally by: fire 59
[:shock:
, wow. Despite the personal insult's and crap spewing from your mouth, i'm going to let that one go. If you want to throw insults in person, convo me and we can have aproper chat. you don't know me so don't talk utter bollox about me
Anyone with half a brain knows you were baiting/trolling.
dude, your the one trolling. I even said to convo me if you have a problem and you just can't leave it, sheesh. Since when is having an intelligent conversation trolling/baiting, seriously .
If you have a problem with me, convo me ingame and we can chat about it. Don't misunderstand, i would like to flame you to hell and back for the stupid comment's but this isn't the forum for it so if you want to, feel free to contact
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Chewan Mesa
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: Mr Bananas
There have been conflicting reports from GMs about whether this is actually an exploit. CCP needs to have a consensus on whether this is actually an exploit or not. Because it seems unrealistic, unfair, and unintended, I'm hoping they categorize it as an exploit.
Meh ... it's not an exploit while only BoB and friends are doing it. When everyone has found out about it and starts doing it, it will be fixed.
Trolling? No - bitterness...
:-/
You know I dont think its a great tactic either, but really believing BoB and friends are the only ones doing it is totally naive.
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