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Torm Ilmater
No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chronus26 Edited by: Chronus26 on 05/05/2007 19:50:27
Originally by: aknahra
With the changes to corporate hanger arrays this is BROKEN. There is NO counter to this.
Elaborate please.
I'd assume he's talking about corporate hangar arrays being locked when a POS goes into reinforced. Meaning that if you want ammo for PvP or modules to change your setup you'd need to have them sitting in a can somewhere because when you put a ship in a ship maintenance array you can't have anything in it's cargo hold. If that's not what you're talking about please clarify.
As far as the bowling for ships inside the POS shield goes it's pretty cheesy. Our POSes have had cap fleets do it repeatedly for several hours to try to get ships out so it's not just titans that are doing it. While CCP might not be in agreement as to whether or not it's an exploit it's still a pretty cheap way to handle things and you'd think some of these "l33t" pvp corps/alliances that are doing it would show some class instead of taking the underhanded route.
Still, it'd be nice to see a statement here on the forums by CCP on this issue.
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Elipsis
Gallente The Mission Guys
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:49:00 -
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Seems like the kind of issue we'd surely want a definitive answer to from the GMs.
From the programming standpoint, bumping sounds more like an exploit that something a developer would intend to be used as a strategy. -...
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Gobblock
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59 dude, your the one trolling. I even said to convo me if you have a problem and you just can't leave it, sheesh. Since when is having an intelligent conversation trolling/baiting, seriously .
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Armenia Elclestis
Originally by: fire 59 Forgive me if i sound uninformed on such matter's , abit of a pos virgin. Can't you place ship's inside the ship maintenace array thingymabob? Thought they stored ships?
Considering that you're in one of the most powerful 0.0 alliances and that it's your alliance doing this I find your projected chirpy ****-Van-Dyke-in-Mary-Poppins-esque innocence to be insulting.
Basically mate you can stick it up your arse because while you and yours make out to be holier than thou, in such interesting areas of the internet such as CAOD, you're also bending the rules to the absolute limit and then actively breaking them and still managing to be smack-talking mouthbreathers in Local.
, wow. Despite the personal insult's and crap spewing from your mouth, i'm going to let that one go. If you want to throw insults in person, convo me and we can have aproper chat. you don't know me so don't talk utter bollox about me 
try to keep track of who your responding to mmkay?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.05 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gobblock
Originally by: fire 59 dude, your the one trolling. I even said to convo me if you have a problem and you just can't leave it, sheesh. Since when is having an intelligent conversation trolling/baiting, seriously .
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Armenia Elclestis
Originally by: fire 59 Forgive me if i sound uninformed on such matter's , abit of a pos virgin. Can't you place ship's inside the ship maintenace array thingymabob? Thought they stored ships?
Considering that you're in one of the most powerful 0.0 alliances and that it's your alliance doing this I find your projected chirpy ****-Van-Dyke-in-Mary-Poppins-esque innocence to be insulting.
Basically mate you can stick it up your arse because while you and yours make out to be holier than thou, in such interesting areas of the internet such as CAOD, you're also bending the rules to the absolute limit and then actively breaking them and still managing to be smack-talking mouthbreathers in Local.
, wow. Despite the personal insult's and crap spewing from your mouth, i'm going to let that one go. If you want to throw insults in person, convo me and we can have aproper chat. you don't know me so don't talk utter bollox about me 
try to keep track of who your responding to mmkay?
You're obviously getting confused with very simple thing's, I was under the impression you called me a troll and that i was baiting by, um, trolling and baiting me? If having an adult and decnt conversation between 2 adult's is to hard for you, then just let it be.
I won't respond to any more trolling in this thread, shame but it seem's some folk's cant let there hatred and propoganda stay out of the other section's of the forum's.
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MortyM
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.05 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gobblock
Originally by: fire 59
Hmmm, you must have missed the bit where i clearly said i was a pos virgin.
You can't honestly expect anyone to believe that, given your background.
I smell a troll.
Dude, you're the one that is trolling here. You turned this perfectly fine thread about the desirability of the mechanics into a bob thread. You know COAD is that way -->
However much you may love or hate the titan bowling, CCP have made it very clear that they do not consider it an exploit and that it's acceptable game play. If you don't agree with this then tell them and make a thread about it, which I assume was the point of the OP. But just a suggestion, it has a lot more chance of succes if you discus it in a mature way and explain why you consider it not acceptable and leave the flames out.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.05.05 22:16:00 -
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It sounds absolutely lame, it should be considered an exploit, and anyone doing it is a cheeseball.
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Gobblock
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: Gobblock on 05/05/2007 22:35:55 edit: DOH two very similar posts which i had confused. Thats where this got started
I made a big quote tree and found it.
My bad
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Von Druid
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.05.05 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: MortyM However much you may love or hate the titan bowling, CCP have made it very clear that they do not consider it an exploit and that it's acceptable game play.
Not CCP, but one of their GMs has said it's not an exploit. Just like other GMs have said that it is an exploit. I have yet to see a developer post about it.
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Morning Rain
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Posted - 2007.05.05 22:51:00 -
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Would making a box with a small opening out of offlined small turrets work to keep the ships from being bounced out? A cage if you will to hold ships. Would be funny seeing an enemy carrier get stuck in your pos cause he went bowling and got trapped.
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Red Crown
Kudzu Collective Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.05.05 22:57:00 -
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There is of course, one, final litmus test.
Tom, Jonus (sp) or Evil Thug must try this as well. And if disciplinary action is taken on them?
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Peter Armstrong
Caldari 5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.05 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gobblock
Originally by: fire 59 [:shock: , wow. Despite the personal insult's and crap spewing from your mouth, i'm going to let that one go. If you want to throw insults in person, convo me and we can have aproper chat. you don't know me so don't talk utter bollox about me 
Anyone with half a brain knows you were baiting/trolling.
dude get a grip! he was asking a simple Question and who started to flam? YOU!! so leave it ------------------------------------ It's all part of the Experiance!
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sbreach
Gallente PezCo - Ice Services Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.05 23:03:00 -
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Surely if everyone petitioned it to ask for a definitive answer one would come pretty soon. As it seems a lot of mixed results are coming about. You would hope if people did petition it now the same answers would be given which would have to be taken as the answer till otherwise stated,
And in all honesty from the sound of things it doesn't sound right. like WCS with no drawbacks or all the other things which at the time something at the time seemed almost normal but in the future looks outrageously unbalanced. So I would hazard a guess it is a unexpected "Feature" which was not anticipated, and may or may not decide to keep.
As CCP have said they like the ways players evolve the game mechanics to do things which they had no idea or intention of happening. Escrow being the more positive example. (though pvrts do deserve a mention for there ingenuity) All cases of players using the game mechanics for something outside of CCP's original scope.
So it is safe to assume CCP never had any intention or fathomed its creation, whether they decide it is displaced and needs a fix, or considered a exploit with punishment or be it another player generated method of playing the game only CCP can say. So while everyone has there judgement on this, and whether they fervently feel its right or wrong, it is solely at CCP's discretion. Although a counter could be a good idea, though i suspect do not leave valuable things lying in POS's will become the default answer.
The one thing I've learnt on EVE on-line, is that players will always find more interesting and creative ways in using the game current mechanics to better themsevles albeit lame or until otherwise stated bug abuse. One only needs to read the hardcore winner mentality to understand, you may not agree with their stance or attitude to how they play, but as long as they are within the rules and set parameters they will keep doing it. So my advice is petition it now and ask for a definitive answer.
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Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.05 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: MortyM
However much you may love or hate the titan bowling, CCP have made it very clear that they do not consider it an exploit and that it's acceptable game play.
Titan bowling
CCP don't consider it an exploit?So CCP are saying this is a 'feature' of POSes?Victims of this should blame CCP not the people doing the bumping imo.
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hango
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.05.05 23:49:00 -
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We already have a thread about this here which starts off a bit less ranty, please use that one.
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