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Damien Smith
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:19:00 -
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I'd just like to give a big hug to 'Prodeous' who self destructed his T2 torp fitted Pheonix in 50% armour when he realised he was about to lose it to 3 commands and a battleship.
Maybe 1.5 year old chars shouldn't be in dreadnoughts... ----- My sparkly tinfoil hat is extremely distracting, and makes my eyes bleed. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) Actually... no, it was teh sig. I'm wearing tinfoil goggles already. -Teh Meow |

Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:34:00 -
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Things aggro'ing: Raven, Astarte, Astarte, Absolution
There were other things 'watching'
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Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:38:00 -
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PS. He didnt post his loss mail (and yes he did get one from his self-destruct, told us to ****off.) ---
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Mr Linderman
Selective Extinction
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:43:00 -
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Nice kill, Shame about the self-destruct. Some people just have too much ISK to chuck away. T2 Torps on a Dread 
did you get any nice loot ?
Mr L
www.eve-services.com - The only place to Shop for services
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Gaia Thorn
Villains
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:49:00 -
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ahah nice one guys.
Dont think ships drop any loot when u selfdestruct takes everything with it .
Villains Killboard
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Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Linderman Nice kill, Shame about the self-destruct. Some people just have too much ISK to chuck away. T2 Torps on a Dread 
did you get any nice loot ?
Mr L
Self destruct destroys ALL LOOT except for ammo loaded in the launchers..
We got 19 Juggernaut Rage Torpedoes :) ---
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Mr Linderman
Selective Extinction
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Linderman on 08/05/2007 18:49:36
Originally by: Garrett Crowe
Originally by: Mr Linderman Nice kill, Shame about the self-destruct. Some people just have too much ISK to chuck away. T2 Torps on a Dread 
did you get any nice loot ?
Mr L
Self destruct destroys ALL LOOT except for ammo loaded in the launchers..
We got 19 Juggernaut Rage Torpedoes :)
That sucks
He seemed to be really close to the station, how come he didn't just disengage wait 1min and dock. Or where u using bumper tactics 
Mr L
www.eve-services.com - The only place to Shop for services
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Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Garrett Crowe on 08/05/2007 18:51:23
Originally by: Mr Linderman ..stuff..
Its a station which knocks you off dock range when undocking. ---
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LordChaos
Amarr Purple Monkey Squadron
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:56:00 -
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now thats sad lol
nice work though The Master Of Chaos
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Last Cause
Green Gecko Inc. Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:57:00 -
[10]
To be honest, if I'm in a ship thats t2 fit and theres no way out, and I'm 100% sure i'm gonna die, then hell yeah I'm gonna SD! Hehehe, but that's just cause im an *******. -Sig- Green Gecko Inc. A corp, A family. Hiring ALL types of players! 0.0 based!
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Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.08 18:59:00 -
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But it was a dreadnought using TORPS.. (NOT! Citadels)... he also self-dessed it, and didnt post k/m. ---
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Blind Man
Kemono.
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Posted - 2007.05.08 19:11:00 -
[12]
haha nice 
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.08 19:14:00 -
[13]
lol 
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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jimmyjam
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.08 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Damien Smith I'd just like to give a big hug to 'Prodeous' who self destructed his T2 torp fitted Pheonix in 50% armour when he realised he was about to lose it to 3 commands and a battleship.
Maybe 1.5 year old chars shouldn't be in dreadnoughts...
Nice one boys too bad i missed it.
----------------------------------------------- Turby is seeking exp pvp/pirates!! Please contact me or tribalbleb or join in game chat channel turby for more info. |

Intigo
Amarr The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen
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Posted - 2007.05.08 21:45:00 -
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Smart Dread pilot. Really. :D
Fun little kill, lads - atleast you caused him some major pain which is only fair considering what he fitted on that thing. -- Piewat! Low SP piracy Now with more stories and small clips! |

Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.05.08 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Damien Smith I'd just like to give a big hug to 'Prodeous' who self destructed his T2 torp fitted Pheonix in 50% armour when he realised he was about to lose it to 3 commands and a battleship.
Maybe 1.5 year old chars shouldn't be in dreadnoughts...
So, you're crying because he got the last word? 'Oh noes, the guys we tried to steal from destroyed our phat lewts. What a bunch of nubs.' Sounds to me like he did exactly what he should have, if he was going down, might as well make the whole thing a waste of your time, right?
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korrey
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.08 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Damien Smith I'd just like to give a big hug to 'Prodeous' who self destructed his T2 torp fitted Pheonix in 50% armour when he realised he was about to lose it to 3 commands and a battleship.
Maybe 1.5 year old chars shouldn't be in dreadnoughts...
So, you're crying because he got the last word? 'Oh noes, the guys we tried to steal from destroyed our phat lewts. What a bunch of nubs.' Sounds to me like he did exactly what he should have, if he was going down, might as well make the whole thing a waste of your time, right?
Sounds like his alt. The fact he was using t2 Torpedoes means he should have just ejected and let a non-ebayed pilot fly it. ----------- Amarr- If you like to handicap yourself before the fight begins, then Amarr may suite your needs surprisingly well. |

DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.08 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: DarkElf on 08/05/2007 23:27:33 I would normally say (edit spelling ) self destructing is kinda lame as i'd always try to take as many down with me as possible in the time i havee left but doubt he was going to do much with t2 torps on a dread 
purchased characters ftw 
DE
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Jacob Castillo
Caldari Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.09 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Garrett Crowe PS. He didnt post his loss mail (and yes he did get one from his self-destruct, told us to ****off.)
Pretty sure you don't get a loss mail from self-destructing.
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Celestal
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Posted - 2007.05.09 02:26:00 -
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well cosidering that citadels are not even gonna tickle any of the ships that were shooting at him I would consider t2 torps to be a much better fit in this situation .
or dont you guys understand caps and citadels ?
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Ka'lorn Font'a
Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.09 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ka''lorn Font''a on 09/05/2007 02:51:06 Is that in Egghelende/Amamake?
Lucky guess if so 
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.05.09 02:57:00 -
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Outside station? wtf?
He should have been able to tank long enough to get an alt or a buddy to bump him into docking range.
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.09 03:33:00 -
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hehe
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Arii Smith
Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.05.09 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: voogru Outside station? wtf?
He should have been able to tank long enough to get an alt or a buddy to bump him into docking range.
Ebayers do not know what bumping is hehe. Nice kill Turby, you got the KM spiritually.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.09 03:43:00 -
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Hmm if he had the money to self destruct he should have had the money for a officer web and target painter drones then he could have actually used citadels and then it would have been booooom! Please do not edit moderator sig comments. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) |

voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.05.09 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Arii Smith
Originally by: voogru Outside station? wtf?
He should have been able to tank long enough to get an alt or a buddy to bump him into docking range.
Ebayers do not know what bumping is hehe. Nice kill Turby, you got the KM spiritually.
If you really suspect him of ebay, petition so he gets pwned.
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Cealux
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Posted - 2007.05.09 06:53:00 -
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somehow, im thinking maybe t2 torps would have done better than citadel's on command ships.... unless ofc you where dumb enough to sit still...
so, that makes me think maybe his t2 torps plan wasnt so great, but then again, the fact that he couldnt tank such a small gang makes me think he wasnt in siege mode or hadnt bothered to fit a capital booster....
im also curious, would t2 torp's get a damage bonus from being in siege mode? could they even be used in siege mode? from the reduced explosion velocity, would it still fail it hit stuff about as much as a citadel would?
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ian666
Minmatar Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.09 10:22:00 -
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Nice Kill guys, 
Can't believe he had T2 Torps on it LMFAO, next we will see one with Rockets Fitted.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.09 10:51:00 -
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You can always make up a killmail as long as you know the specifics of the incident like time, etc. You wouldn't be able to put items destroyed though I guess.
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DaMiGe
Amarr Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.09 11:22:00 -
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Lol this reminds me of this guy we killed: miner dreadnaught
This guy had cruise missile launchers fitted, a XL booster T1, stabs and a miner II. He was shooting npc's in the belt while mining... wtf indeed  ---> My vids <--- latest movie = DaMiGe Control 1 |

Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.09 11:47:00 -
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Although im waiting permisson to post this here it is all is correct as his CEO told me he had his nano/i-stab setup in lows.
2007.05.08 18:02
Victim: *** Alliance: *** Corp: *** Destroyed: Phoenix System: *** Security: 0.3
Involved parties:
Name: Garrett Crowe (laid the final blow) Security: -7.9 Alliance: NONE Corp: Turbulent Ship: Raven Weapon: Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Name: TheJacko Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Turbulent Ship: Astarte Weapon: Heavy Ion Blaster II
Name: TribalBleb Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Turbulent Ship: Absolution Weapon: Absolution
Name: crash003 Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Sybrite Inc. Ship: Sleipnir Weapon: 650mm Artillery Cannon II
Name: Damien Smith Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Turbulent Ship: Astarte Weapon: Heavy Ion Blaster II
Destroyed items:
Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Inertia Stabilizers II Cap Recharger II Siege Missile Launcher II Siege Missile Launcher II Siege Missile Launcher II Nitrogen Isotopes, Qty: 12778 (Cargo) Wasp I, Qty: 6 (Drone Bay) ---
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Damien Smith
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.09 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Garrett Crowe Comedy Killmail...
Bottom of the km?! I don't ******* think so. I beat on that bar steward from 1000m with void for the entire time.
More like:
Garret (Raven) - em vs shields ftw Me/Jacko (Ion Astarte) - although I know Jacko was using null so he can be in 3rd place Crash - (Sleip) Tribs (Abso)
Seriously though, I'd get laughed at if I got outdps'd by a bloody Abso.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.09 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: DarkElf on 09/05/2007 12:16:18
Originally by: Damien Smith
Originally by: Garrett Crowe Comedy Killmail...
Bottom of the km?! I don't ******* think so. I beat on that bar steward from 1000m with void for the entire time.
More like:
Garret (Raven) - em vs shields ftw Me/Jacko (Ion Astarte) - although I know Jacko was using null so he can be in 3rd place Crash - (Sleip) Tribs (Abso)
Seriously though, I'd get laughed at if I got outdps'd by a bloody Abso.
stop being a cheapskate and buy a PG rig for it so u can fit neutrons like a big boy
<3
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Dark Flare
Caldari Corpus PCG The State
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Posted - 2007.05.09 12:20:00 -
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I like the way you gave yourself top damage and killing blow  Dark Flare - Corpus PCG |

illusionary beauty
Raid Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.09 13:30:00 -
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Pretty lame. Sore losers ftl.
Dont understand why CCP hasnt added a feature to the game to discourage such tactics. make it so you cant activate self destruct while being targeted. make it so all modules survive make it so you get no insurance whatsoever when you self destruct. its basically insurance fraud anyways.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.05.09 14:33:00 -
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I think the simpler thing would be to apply the same ship destruction mechanics to a self destruct as to another player popping a ship.
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Valandril
Caldari Reiketsu. Hitchhiker's Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.09 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 09/05/2007 14:37:01 Edited by: Valandril on 09/05/2007 14:36:11 /me play on drums EEEEEEEEEEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*snip - be nice*
Right setup dread would tank them till next downtime... ---
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.05.09 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 09/05/2007 15:00:05
Originally by: illusionary beauty Pretty lame. Sore losers ftl.
Dont understand why CCP hasnt added a feature to the game to discourage such tactics. make it so you cant activate self destruct while being targeted. make it so all modules survive make it so you get no insurance whatsoever when you self destruct. its basically insurance fraud anyways.
eh? the self destruct is there for virtually the sole purpose of making sure nobody else gets your stuff. where is the sore loser bit? you accept gatecamping in a mothership as perfectly reasonable behaviour, but consider stopping somebody getting anyhting off your doomed ship to be 'lame' and the pilot a 'sore loser' who is 'ftl'?
you're not one of the guys who insist that fitting stabs on a hauler is cheating are you?
If i was going to lose a dread, hadn't been offered any kind of ransom and had no friendlies in the area to get my stuff back.. hell, i'd hit the big red button too.
it's not a temper tantrum if it's the only thing left to do, surely?
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Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.09 15:05:00 -
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It has been decided not the post the mail :) ---
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Damien Smith
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.09 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf Edited by: DarkElf on 09/05/2007 12:16:18
Originally by: Damien Smith
Originally by: Garrett Crowe Comedy Killmail...
stop being a cheapskate and buy a PG rig for it so u can fit neutrons like a big boy
<3
Hehe, I've got a neutronstarte that I use for gang ops. When camping I like the extra reppage the extra aux nano pump gives.
----- My sparkly tinfoil hat is extremely distracting, and makes my eyes bleed. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) Actually... no, it was teh sig. I'm wearing tinfoil goggles already. -Teh Meow
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ian666
Minmatar Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.09 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: ian666 on 09/05/2007 15:19:19
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Damien Smith I'd just like to give a big hug to 'Prodeous' who self destructed his T2 torp fitted Pheonix in 50% armour when he realised he was about to lose it to 3 commands and a battleship.
Maybe 1.5 year old chars shouldn't be in dreadnoughts...
So, you're crying because he got the last word? 'Oh noes, the guys we tried to steal from destroyed our phat lewts. What a bunch of nubs.' Sounds to me like he did exactly what he should have, if he was going down, might as well make the whole thing a waste of your time, right?
LOL, You should get out more, he shouldn't be out in that ship if he can't fit it LMFAO. they should make the Self Destruction timer longer for Capital due to there Hit points & i'm surprised he didn't just Log or did he once his Dread went Pop.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.10 12:47:00 -
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I'm not quite sure I follow you, why exactly should 1.5 year old characters not be in dreads? I mean if they:
1. Have the necessary skills to fly one 2. Have enough isk to afford one 3. They want to fly one
Then, there should be no problem with a 1.5 year old character flying a dread. In fact, a 1.5 year old character, with the proper skills can fly a Dread very well. So, having said that, next time, please spare the editorial on who should be flying what ship.
Now that I got that out of the way, the person in said dread is lame. Not too long ago BKFT engaged an Archon in Placid. When it was clear that he wouldn't survive, he self-destructed the ship to deny us any loot and the kill mail.
Personally, I think the game mechanics should be changed, invalidating insurance, if someone self-destructs. This way, people can still self-destruct if they'd like, but need to think hard about the billion isk they'll lose doing so.
-Karlemgne
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |

Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.05.10 12:53:00 -
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LOL! i would kill to see the look on your faces when you knew he was selfdestructing.    _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.10 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Garrett Crowe on 10/05/2007 12:56:30
Originally by: Dionisius LOL! i would kill to see the look on your faces when you knew he was selfdestructing.   
I didnt know personally :$ Untill he insta-popped from 40-50% armor and i was liek Wtf/ Who got killmail..
Then it kinda hit me :P ---
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.10 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne I'm not quite sure I follow you, why exactly should 1.5 year old characters not be in dreads? I mean if they:
1. Have the necessary skills to fly one 2. Have enough isk to afford one 3. They want to fly one
in response to number 1. clearly he did not have the skills to use it looking at this thread. he was using t2 seige which implies he didn't have citadel seige skill but even if he did he majorly lacked the 'skill' to use one. that's why ppl are suggesting he tries a ship more in his league next time.
DE
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.05.10 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Karlemgne I'm not quite sure I follow you, why exactly should 1.5 year old characters not be in dreads? I mean if they:
1. Have the necessary skills to fly one 2. Have enough isk to afford one 3. They want to fly one
in response to number 1. clearly he did not have the skills to use it looking at this thread. he was using t2 seige which implies he didn't have citadel seige skill but even if he did he majorly lacked the 'skill' to use one. that's why ppl are suggesting he tries a ship more in his league next time.
DE
He clearly didn't..aparently?So where does that leave us? In clearly?Aparently?Or clearly aparently?... you lost me there... _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Damien Smith
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.10 13:52:00 -
[47]
His ship was definitely fitted with T2 siege, and we later found out he had a nano fit in the lows. To me that in combination with his age says that he should definitely not be in a dread.
My char's not much older and I've got nowhere near the support skills needed to fly a dread properly. ----- My sparkly tinfoil hat is extremely distracting, and makes my eyes bleed. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) Actually... no, it was teh sig. I'm wearing tinfoil goggles already. -Teh Meow |

DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.10 14:02:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Dionisius
He clearly didn't..aparently?So where does that leave us? In clearly?Aparently?Or clearly aparently?... you lost me there...
err i have no idea what that means. i never said apparently. i said that clearly (meaning it is clear) he doesn't have the skill to fly a dread based on his flying and fitting it revealed in this thread.
DE
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.05.10 14:21:00 -
[49]
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Dionisius
He clearly didn't..aparently?So where does that leave us? In clearly?Aparently?Or clearly aparently?... you lost me there...
err i have no idea what that means. i never said apparently. i said that clearly (meaning it is clear) he doesn't have the skill to fly a dread based on his flying and fitting it revealed in this thread.
DE
You said clearly and later you added, even if, so aparently i am right and you as speculating as always. And so what proof do you have that he didn't have the skills?To fly one he needed the skills, to fit one he needed the skills, what makes it so right that he didn't had skills?His fitting?People have the right to screw up fitings or is there any written rule that people should, fit, fly, use ships the way "some" say?
He had the full right to burn the 1bil ship he was flying, ginger burns his carriers in such a way, so why shouldn't this guy burn a dread?
And nothing is revealed in this thread about the guy, only that, he left some people hanging dry in the void of space without the killmail. *( sorry turby guys i'm not against you i just find these situations hilarious.) _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.10 17:55:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Dionisius
He clearly didn't..aparently?So where does that leave us? In clearly?Aparently?Or clearly aparently?... you lost me there...
err i have no idea what that means. i never said apparently. i said that clearly (meaning it is clear) he doesn't have the skill to fly a dread based on his flying and fitting it revealed in this thread.
DE
You said clearly and later you added, even if, so aparently i am right and you as speculating as always. And so what proof do you have that he didn't have the skills?To fly one he needed the skills, to fit one he needed the skills, what makes it so right that he didn't had skills?His fitting?People have the right to screw up fitings or is there any written rule that people should, fit, fly, use ships the way "some" say?
He had the full right to burn the 1bil ship he was flying, ginger burns his carriers in such a way, so why shouldn't this guy burn a dread?
And nothing is revealed in this thread about the guy, only that, he left some people hanging dry in the void of space without the killmail. *( sorry turby guys i'm not against you i just find these situations hilarious.)
ok from what little sense i can gather from ur post i can only assume you are completely misunderstanding what i'm saying. let me exlain.
my point was 2 fold. CLEARLY he does not have the skills to fly it. i am not talking about skillpoints here, this is not world of warcraft where as soon as you get to lvl 10 you can use you triple handed super wtf own spear of do0m. i'm talking about the skills to use a dread and not use stupid things in the highs and pilot it in a way that will easily get u killed.
my second point was that i'm speculating that he does not have the sp to use citadel torps because only a complete moron would use t2 seige if they could fit citadels. i think it's a fairly reasonably assumption tbh. anyone else feel free to correct me if they think that's an unreasonable speculation
DE
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Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.10 18:18:00 -
[51]
Maybe he can fit it via skillpoints but mentally he lacks the ability to predict being attacked in (looking at the map) the most/2nd most pirated system in eve atm. ---
Originally by: CCP Ginger. ...Or as I like to refer to myself. An imported sperm bank.
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.05.10 18:39:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Garrett Crowe Maybe he can fit it via skillpoints but mentally he lacks the ability to predict being attacked in (looking at the map) the most/2nd most pirated system in eve atm.
Or he took the dread for a spin and was expecting to shoot people down instead of being atacked himself.
Darkelf loosing the dread does not make the guy a noob and unable to fly it, a zilion stuff might have happened that we do not know so unless you have rock solid evidence that the guy didn't had the slightest clue of what he was doing... _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari Central Defiance Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.10 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 10/05/2007 18:58:46 dion, i gotta go with DE on this one, you're flamebating for no reason. i don't know the first thing about flying caps, so i really have no input, anyhoo peace.
edit nvm man i just reread, when you said Dread i saw Thread... apologies.
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Pettu
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.10 19:04:00 -
[54]
Fitting of champions I tell ya! Well, maybe there was a mothership nearby and he was going to try to bump it while he shot fighters with t2 torps? 
Gotta love Navy ravens with t1 passive hardeners and small rails... Gotta love carriers with Large 'Accom' reps... gotta love t2 torp fitted nano dread... ---- for some reason my sig is fubar... cba to fix it |

DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.10 19:23:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: Garrett Crowe Maybe he can fit it via skillpoints but mentally he lacks the ability to predict being attacked in (looking at the map) the most/2nd most pirated system in eve atm.
Darkelf loosing the dread does not make the guy a noob and unable to fly it, a zilion stuff might have happened that we do not know so unless you have rock solid evidence that the guy didn't had the slightest clue of what he was doing...
i never said losing a dread makes him a noob at all.
But are you seriously saying that fitting a dread with t2 seige and nanos ( i laugh every time i say it) does not make the guy not skilled enough to fly it? are you really saying that that could in any possible situation beed a 'good' fitting?
DE
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.05.10 19:31:00 -
[56]
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: Garrett Crowe Maybe he can fit it via skillpoints but mentally he lacks the ability to predict being attacked in (looking at the map) the most/2nd most pirated system in eve atm.
Darkelf loosing the dread does not make the guy a noob and unable to fly it, a zilion stuff might have happened that we do not know so unless you have rock solid evidence that the guy didn't had the slightest clue of what he was doing...
i never said losing a dread makes him a noob at all.
But are you seriously saying that fitting a dread with t2 seige and nanos ( i laugh every time i say it) does not make the guy not skilled enough to fly it? are you really saying that that could in any possible situation beed a 'good' fitting?
DE
Nope, in fact i don't even make an ideia how a dread should be fited but giving a wild guess for the the lows should be with cap armour rep and hardeners/dcu?
Dunno but the guy could be messing with the setup? _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.10 23:28:00 -
[57]
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Karlemgne I'm not quite sure I follow you, why exactly should 1.5 year old characters not be in dreads? I mean if they:
1. Have the necessary skills to fly one 2. Have enough isk to afford one 3. They want to fly one
in response to number 1. clearly he did not have the skills to use it looking at this thread. he was using t2 seige which implies he didn't have citadel seige skill but even if he did he majorly lacked the 'skill' to use one. that's why ppl are suggesting he tries a ship more in his league next time.
DE
There are many reasons to be using different mods. Like cash. Having said that, whoever can afford to fly a dread, and wants to, should, without us *****ing about it. In fact, I like it when people fly ships they shouldn't, because it usually means more isk/loot for me.
Plus, as a quick aside, I once killed an 03 player in a Tempest who had 4 different types of guns equiped. Some people just don't know how to fit ships.
-Karlemgne
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Tomas Ysidro
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.11 00:30:00 -
[58]
I toyed around with EVEMon a bit, and it's not too off the mark to expect a year and a half year old player to be in a dread with proper skills, if he trains solely for it.
And no the system isn't amamake/egghelende, I do recognize it though :)
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Ice Breaker
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.11 00:38:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Tomas Ysidro And no the system isn't amamake/egghelende, I do recognize it though :)
Ditto. 
Ice.
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.05.11 11:45:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Garrett Crowe Edited by: Garrett Crowe on 09/05/2007 15:00:43 Although im waiting permisson to post this here it is all is correct as his CEO told me he had his nano/i-stab setup in lows.
And this closes the statement that no one knows exactly the setup, the CEO told... now i can tell to... see he had... hummm a dread that went puff?! _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.05.11 11:49:00 -
[61]
Much love to noobs in dreads. Like the miner dread DaMiGe mentioned.
And how about the unfitted revelation our corp found wandering at a planet.
\o/ to noob nubbins dread pilots. Keep em coming!
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Raneru
Darwin With Attitude RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 12:38:00 -
[62]
Originally by: ry ry Edited by: ry ry on 09/05/2007 15:00:05
Originally by: illusionary beauty Pretty lame. Sore losers ftl.
Dont understand why CCP hasnt added a feature to the game to discourage such tactics. make it so you cant activate self destruct while being targeted. make it so all modules survive make it so you get no insurance whatsoever when you self destruct. its basically insurance fraud anyways.
eh? the self destruct is there for virtually the sole purpose of making sure nobody else gets your stuff. where is the sore loser bit? you accept gatecamping in a mothership as perfectly reasonable behaviour, but consider stopping somebody getting anyhting off your doomed ship to be 'lame' and the pilot a 'sore loser' who is 'ftl'?
you're not one of the guys who insist that fitting stabs on a hauler is cheating are you?
If i was going to lose a dread, hadn't been offered any kind of ransom and had no friendlies in the area to get my stuff back.. hell, i'd hit the big red button too.
it's not a temper tantrum if it's the only thing left to do, surely?
He should have accepted the fact he was going down and gone out shooting. Its the equivalent of realising you're about to lose a football match so you pop the ball and run off crying.
It should take ages and ages to break a dread tank (if you can fly it properly ofc). There is more than enough time to get in support surely?
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Kehmor
Caldari The Movement
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Posted - 2007.05.11 12:48:00 -
[63]
what i don get is if he was usin t2 torps surey h more or less had te skils fr capital weopons?
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.05.11 14:30:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Raneru
Originally by: ry ry Edited by: ry ry on 09/05/2007 15:00:05
Originally by: illusionary beauty Pretty lame. Sore losers ftl.
Dont understand why CCP hasnt added a feature to the game to discourage such tactics. make it so you cant activate self destruct while being targeted. make it so all modules survive make it so you get no insurance whatsoever when you self destruct. its basically insurance fraud anyways.
eh? the self destruct is there for virtually the sole purpose of making sure nobody else gets your stuff. where is the sore loser bit? you accept gatecamping in a mothership as perfectly reasonable behaviour, but consider stopping somebody getting anyhting off your doomed ship to be 'lame' and the pilot a 'sore loser' who is 'ftl'?
you're not one of the guys who insist that fitting stabs on a hauler is cheating are you?
If i was going to lose a dread, hadn't been offered any kind of ransom and had no friendlies in the area to get my stuff back.. hell, i'd hit the big red button too.
it's not a temper tantrum if it's the only thing left to do, surely?
He should have accepted the fact he was going down and gone out shooting. Its the equivalent of realising you're about to lose a football match so you pop the ball and run off crying.
It should take ages and ages to break a dread tank (if you can fly it properly ofc). There is more than enough time to get in support surely?
Oh boy spare us the crap about going down and extending you the killmail, the guy did what most people in expensive ships do if they are going down, he hijacked them turby guys from their killmail.
He pirated their killmail! _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Oliandra Friginia
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Posted - 2007.05.11 15:13:00 -
[65]
I may dislike the guy for one reason or another of my own and I'm glad to see him lose a dread, but I have to say he did earn his skills, he didn't just go and buy the account. If I was the head of his corp though I'd watch out for him, and I wouldn't trust him though, Pro has a long history of swindling corps and messin them over along with robbing them blind.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.11 15:57:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Oliandra Friginia I may dislike the guy for one reason or another of my own and I'm glad to see him lose a dread, but I have to say he did earn his skills, he didn't just go and buy the account. If I was the head of his corp though I'd watch out for him, and I wouldn't trust him though, Pro has a long history of swindling corps and messin them over along with robbing them blind.
are you sure he didn't buy the account? how can someone play for a year and a half and think that fitting a nano t2 seige dread is a good idea? i really find it hard to believe unless the guy pretty much never played the game.
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Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.11 15:58:00 -
[67]
Originally by: ry ry Edited by: ry ry on 09/05/2007 15:00:05
Originally by: illusionary beauty Pretty lame. Sore losers ftl.
Dont understand why CCP hasnt added a feature to the game to discourage such tactics. make it so you cant activate self destruct while being targeted. make it so all modules survive make it so you get no insurance whatsoever when you self destruct. its basically insurance fraud anyways.
eh? the self destruct is there for virtually the sole purpose of making sure nobody else gets your stuff. where is the sore loser bit? you accept gatecamping in a mothership as perfectly reasonable behaviour, but consider stopping somebody getting anyhting off your doomed ship to be 'lame' and the pilot a 'sore loser' who is 'ftl'?
you're not one of the guys who insist that fitting stabs on a hauler is cheating are you?
If i was going to lose a dread, hadn't been offered any kind of ransom and had no friendlies in the area to get my stuff back.. hell, i'd hit the big red button too.
it's not a temper tantrum if it's the only thing left to do, surely?
He was offered a ransom though :) ---
Originally by: CCP Ginger. ...Or as I like to refer to myself. An imported sperm bank.
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Rylet VanDorn
Pastafarians Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.05.11 16:50:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Garrett Crowe
Originally by: ry ry Edited by: ry ry on 09/05/2007 15:00:05
Originally by: illusionary beauty Pretty lame. Sore losers ftl.
Dont understand why CCP hasnt added a feature to the game to discourage such tactics. make it so you cant activate self destruct while being targeted. make it so all modules survive make it so you get no insurance whatsoever when you self destruct. its basically insurance fraud anyways.
eh? the self destruct is there for virtually the sole purpose of making sure nobody else gets your stuff. where is the sore loser bit? you accept gatecamping in a mothership as perfectly reasonable behaviour, but consider stopping somebody getting anyhting off your doomed ship to be 'lame' and the pilot a 'sore loser' who is 'ftl'?
you're not one of the guys who insist that fitting stabs on a hauler is cheating are you?
If i was going to lose a dread, hadn't been offered any kind of ransom and had no friendlies in the area to get my stuff back.. hell, i'd hit the big red button too.
it's not a temper tantrum if it's the only thing left to do, surely?
He was offered a ransom though :)
LOL ransom. Nice joke.
Personally I'd have to agree with this line of thought. If you know you're going down, and you have the option to rob your assailants of your loot, killmail, or anything at all really... it makes perfect sense to do so. You strike back at them in any way possible.
Honor has nothing to do with it. There is no honor in this game, ESPECIALLY among thieves (pirates, griefers, PKs, whatever you want to call them).
What sickens me is that caps can be lost to such an insignificant assault force right next to a station simply because of some bug that prevents people from docking even when they clearly should be able to.
Getting webbed/scrammed when 10k+ off a station and dying because of it? Sure, no prob...
Undocking, and then trying to re-dock immediately, only to be bumped off and popped because of a poorly designed station combined with a poorly-designed game mechanic?
Lame.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.11 16:54:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Rylet VanDorn
What sickens me is that caps can be lost to such an insignificant assault force right next to a station simply because of some bug that prevents people from docking even when they clearly should be able to.
Getting webbed/scrammed when 10k+ off a station and dying because of it? Sure, no prob...
Undocking, and then trying to re-dock immediately, only to be bumped off and popped because of a poorly designed station combined with a poorly-designed game mechanic?
Lame.
Ok firstly if he had the thing fitted like it really should be then he would have tanked them all day and probably pwned them all.
secondly if he had a cyno alt ready because he was leaving then he could have left without anyone stopping him.
thirdly there is nothing wrong with the stations. it is not a bug. just because u can't undock in front of a fleet with complete safety means u say it's a bug?
DE
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Raneru
Darwin With Attitude RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 17:27:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Raneru on 11/05/2007 17:26:48
Originally by: Dionisius
Oh boy spare us the crap about going down and extending you the killmail, the guy did what most people in expensive ships do if they are going down, he hijacked them turby guys from their killmail.
He pirated their killmail!
The guy who self destructed has arguably made things worse for himself by self destructing. Instead of giving a small group a laugh and 1 killmail on a random killboard, he now has his own thread on eve-o for everyone to laugh at 
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Andrew Homolak
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Posted - 2007.05.11 17:48:00 -
[71]
dumb question, whats an ebayer?
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TheJacko
Gallente Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.11 18:10:00 -
[72]
Originally by: DarkElf
Ok firstly if he had the thing fitted like it really should be then he would have tanked them all day and probably pwned them all.
secondly if he had a cyno alt ready because he was leaving then he could have left without anyone stopping him.
thirdly there is nothing wrong with the stations. it is not a bug. just because u can't undock in front of a fleet with complete safety means u say it's a bug?
DE
he couldnt of jumped out because he didnt have stabs fitted he had just jumped into the system de
and yes he could of owned us all if he ahd the right fittings
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Garrett Crowe
Caldari Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.11 18:12:00 -
[73]
Why is it "a nice joke" that we offered him a ransom? We offered to stop for ISK. ---
Originally by: CCP Ginger. ...Or as I like to refer to myself. An imported sperm bank.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.11 18:43:00 -
[74]
Originally by: TheJacko
Originally by: DarkElf
Ok firstly if he had the thing fitted like it really should be then he would have tanked them all day and probably pwned them all.
secondly if he had a cyno alt ready because he was leaving then he could have left without anyone stopping him.
thirdly there is nothing wrong with the stations. it is not a bug. just because u can't undock in front of a fleet with complete safety means u say it's a bug?
DE
he couldnt of jumped out because he didnt have stabs fitted he had just jumped into the system de
and yes he could of owned us all if he ahd the right fittings
oh he'd just cyno'd in? ok in that case it's just nothing to do with stations it's to do with jumping in within docking range next time 
DE
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.05.11 18:56:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Raneru Edited by: Raneru on 11/05/2007 17:26:48
Originally by: Dionisius
Oh boy spare us the crap about going down and extending you the killmail, the guy did what most people in expensive ships do if they are going down, he hijacked them turby guys from their killmail.
He pirated their killmail!
The guy who self destructed has arguably made things worse for himself by self destructing. Instead of giving a small group a laugh and 1 killmail on a random killboard, he now has his own thread on eve-o for everyone to laugh at 
Laughed at?Because of what..... He hijacked a killmail, he was the pirate and the rest of the bunch came out empty handed. _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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TheJacko
Gallente Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.11 19:27:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: Raneru Edited by: Raneru on 11/05/2007 17:26:48
Originally by: Dionisius
Oh boy spare us the crap about going down and extending you the killmail, the guy did what most people in expensive ships do if they are going down, he hijacked them turby guys from their killmail.
He pirated their killmail!
The guy who self destructed has arguably made things worse for himself by self destructing. Instead of giving a small group a laugh and 1 killmail on a random killboard, he now has his own thread on eve-o for everyone to laugh at 
Laughed at?Because of what..... He hijacked a killmail, he was the pirate and the rest of the bunch came out empty handed.
rawrrr but we are still rich ;)
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Rylet VanDorn
Pastafarians Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.05.11 19:47:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Garrett Crowe Why is it "a nice joke" that we offered him a ransom? We offered to stop for ISK.
Ah.. to explain, it's because IMHO no one in this game can be trusted to honor ransoms. Take a look at the front page of C&P... even today was a story from a guy who ransomed someone that was popped by rats shortly after paying. He kept the money, came here to post about it, and was cheered on by the "pirate" community.
As mentioned in my previous post, from what I've seen of the Eve community in my year and a half (or so) of playing, there are no honorable people here. Quite the opposite, in fact. Dishonorable actions are celebrated as jokes.
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Kather
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.11 20:02:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Rylet VanDorn
Originally by: Garrett Crowe Why is it "a nice joke" that we offered him a ransom? We offered to stop for ISK.
Ah.. to explain, it's because IMHO no one in this game can be trusted to honor ransoms. Take a look at the front page of C&P... even today was a story from a guy who ransomed someone that was popped by rats shortly after paying. He kept the money, came here to post about it, and was cheered on by the "pirate" community.
As mentioned in my previous post, from what I've seen of the Eve community in my year and a half (or so) of playing, there are no honorable people here. Quite the opposite, in fact. Dishonorable actions are celebrated as jokes.
in that situation, it was the rats, not the pirate, that killed him. should the ransom be repayed? depend on how much of an annoying wotsit the victim is.
as for ransoms, as a victim, i always prefer paying a ransom, if it is reasonable. it saves me the time fitting a new ship up etc. as a pirate, i honestly dont care if you pay the ransom or not. if you do, i get isk. if you dont, i blow you up and have fun, then sell your loot for (not as much probably)isk. either way, i win. if you pay the ransom, you may win aswell avast, matey! Yarr old sig is too large, the maximum allowed filesize is 24,000 bytes. -Hango
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Rylet VanDorn
Pastafarians Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.05.11 20:22:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Kather in that situation, it was the rats, not the pirate, that killed him. should the ransom be repayed? depend on how much of an annoying wotsit the victim is.
This is a perfect example of the technicality cop-out people will use to justify a dishonorable action, and the exact reason I would self-destruct any ship threatened rather than let it's loot fall into the hands of the enemy (a tactic every military uses, btw)
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Dionisius
Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.05.11 20:28:00 -
[80]
Originally by: TheJacko
Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: Raneru Edited by: Raneru on 11/05/2007 17:26:48
Originally by: Dionisius
Oh boy spare us the crap about going down and extending you the killmail, the guy did what most people in expensive ships do if they are going down, he hijacked them turby guys from their killmail.
He pirated their killmail!
The guy who self destructed has arguably made things worse for himself by self destructing. Instead of giving a small group a laugh and 1 killmail on a random killboard, he now has his own thread on eve-o for everyone to laugh at 
Laughed at?Because of what..... He hijacked a killmail, he was the pirate and the rest of the bunch came out empty handed.
rawrrr but we are still rich ;)
But it has to be a nice laugh at least and the face of seeing the ship in mid armour and just go pop. Don't get me wrong i'm trying to put myself in your shoes. _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Damien Smith
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.11 21:18:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Damien Smith on 11/05/2007 21:18:49 Well this system keeps getting stranger and stranger. 2006.08 pilot in a Chimera. Pix0r.
Check the T1 shield tank...
Mail:
2007.05.11 19:13
Victim: Alliance: NONE Corp: Destroyed: Chimera System: Security:
Involved parties:
Name: Damien Smith Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Turbulent Ship: Astarte Weapon: Astarte
Name: TheJacko Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Turbulent Ship: Astarte Weapon: Astarte
Name: Garrett Crowe (laid the final blow) Security: -9.8 Alliance: NONE Corp: Turbulent Ship: Raven Weapon: Devastator Fury Cruise Missile
Name: adie67 Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Turbulent Ship: Raven Weapon: 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher
Name: TribalBleb Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Turbulent Ship: Absolution Weapon: Absolution
Name: Kather Security: -10.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Turbulent Ship: Harbinger Weapon: Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Destroyed items:
Type-D Power Core Modification: Shield Flux Type-D Power Core Modification: Shield Flux Cap Recharger I Cap Recharger I Nitrogen Isotopes, Qty: 23166 (Cargo)

----- My sparkly tinfoil hat is extremely distracting, and makes my eyes bleed. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) Actually... no, it was teh sig. I'm wearing tinfoil goggles already. -Teh Meow |

Elspeth Vigneron
Caldari Phoenix Logistics Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.11 22:21:00 -
[82]
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Oliandra Friginia I may dislike the guy for one reason or another of my own and I'm glad to see him lose a dread, but I have to say he did earn his skills, he didn't just go and buy the account. If I was the head of his corp though I'd watch out for him, and I wouldn't trust him though, Pro has a long history of swindling corps and messin them over along with robbing them blind.
are you sure he didn't buy the account? how can someone play for a year and a half and think that fitting a nano t2 seige dread is a good idea? i really find it hard to believe unless the guy pretty much never played the game.
I try experimental configurations. I wouldn't try that one. But I do try contra "accepted wisdom" configurations. Most don't work. But, sometimes, you can actually accomplish something interesting. And through people who rely on you to do the "conventional" thing for a massive loop.
So I don't automatically assume he was an idiot. Though, there is plenty of evidence that way... |

Elspeth Vigneron
Caldari Phoenix Logistics Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.11 22:28:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Raneru Edited by: Raneru on 11/05/2007 17:26:48
Originally by: Dionisius
Oh boy spare us the crap about going down and extending you the killmail, the guy did what most people in expensive ships do if they are going down, he hijacked them turby guys from their killmail.
He pirated their killmail!
The guy who self destructed has arguably made things worse for himself by self destructing. Instead of giving a small group a laugh and 1 killmail on a random killboard, he now has his own thread on eve-o for everyone to laugh at 
He'd have gotten his own thread, like the mining/ratting dreadnaught guy got. So, really, in my book he came out ahead. Seeing his ship was taken, he scuttled it in fine Naval Tradition to keep it from falling into the hands of the enemy. :) Phoenix Logistics Industries |

Deitre Cibrus
Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.05.11 22:58:00 -
[84]
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem Much love to noobs in dreads. Like the miner dread DaMiGe mentioned.
And how about the unfitted revelation our corp found wandering at a planet.
\o/ to noob nubbins dread pilots. Keep em coming!
Lawl -----------
Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
What is this sig missing? Pretty colours? -Conuion Not true! Has plenty -Deitre It's missing the goat!- Tirg Cowbell! -Scyd Gold gold, baby -Sahwoolo |

DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.12 12:17:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Rylet VanDorn
This is a perfect example of the technicality cop-out people will use to justify a dishonorable action, and the exact reason I would self-destruct any ship threatened rather than let it's loot fall into the hands of the enemy (a tactic every military uses, btw)
yeah i can just see a friendly plane in a dog fight surrounded by mulitple hostile planes "oh know i think we're gonna lose this one, quick self destruct" KABLOOOOM!!! 
And in relation to the posts you see on here about dishonored ransoms, most of them are from small noobie pirate corps who don't care much for maintaining a good reputation. the more established, long time serving pirate corps which include Turby would not dishonor a ransom as it would be very bad for business for them.
plus. for every 1 post about a dishonored ransom on eve-o, there are another 1000 ransoms that take place and go exactly how they should
DE
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Dr Slice
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.05.12 13:35:00 -
[86]
Nice Dread kills Turby 
And for those who think ransoms are dishonored the majority of the time are only speculating, and have no idea what they're talking about.
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.12 13:39:00 -
[87]
Hey, wait, I know that system!  --- My sig has gone into exile |

MrBadidea
Caldari The Children of Lilith
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Posted - 2007.05.12 14:29:00 -
[88]
Pretty damn similar to mine.
YHALOTHAR UNFITTED GOONSWARM CHIMERA, THAT HAS A FULL SET OF FIGHTERS. WHAT IS THIS? SMACKTALK IN LOCAL? OH NO YOUR DEAD.
Or, how about the guy that decided to test out a passive tanked Chimera in a belt. When I was around. Just don't let Damien anywhere near the loot; it tends to get shot up a bit more after ships get dead. I suspect he has an itchy trigger finger 
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[Tranquility] You appear to be smacking in an unfitted Chimera. Would you like to notify MrBadidea of your current location? |

TheJacko
Gallente Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.12 15:58:00 -
[89]
Edited by: TheJacko on 12/05/2007 15:55:57
Originally by: MrBadidea Pretty damn similar to mine.
YHALOTHAR UNFITTED GOONSWARM CHIMERA, THAT HAS A FULL SET OF FIGHTERS. WHAT IS THIS? SMACKTALK IN LOCAL? OH NO YOUR DEAD.
Or, how about the guy that decided to test out a passive tanked Chimera in a belt. When I was around. Just don't let Damien anywhere near the loot; it tends to get shot up a bit more after ships get dead. I suspect he has an itchy trigger finger 
lol i love your sig mr bad 
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MrBadidea
Caldari The Children of Lilith
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Posted - 2007.05.12 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: TheJacko Edited by: TheJacko on 12/05/2007 15:55:57
Originally by: MrBadidea Pretty damn similar to mine.
YHALOTHAR UNFITTED GOONSWARM CHIMERA, THAT HAS A FULL SET OF FIGHTERS. WHAT IS THIS? SMACKTALK IN LOCAL? OH NO YOUR DEAD.
Or, how about the guy that decided to test out a passive tanked Chimera in a belt. When I was around. Just don't let Damien anywhere near the loot; it tends to get shot up a bit more after ships get dead. I suspect he has an itchy trigger finger 
lol i love your sig mr bad 
Why thankyou. I made it especially for Goonswarm 
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Oliandra Friginia
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Posted - 2007.05.12 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Oliandra Friginia on 12/05/2007 22:08:42 All I'm saying is the guys karma came back and bit him. He's a real piece of work, I know of at least three corps the guy has messed over from within turning the members against eachother then walking away with as much loot as he could get in the confusion while the corp crumbled away to nothing, and of course when he walked away he never left enough for the corp to be able to really continue on anyway... Like I said, his Karma came back and bit him Compared to him the guys he cheated out of a kill mail are honest pirates
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