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General Xerxes
Delta Omega Iota Inc. Breidablik
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Posted - 2007.05.09 15:14:00 -
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Quote: Your corporation will be able to set standings to entire alliances now.
Wooooo! Another blog with excellent changes.
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Dregann
Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.05.09 15:25:00 -
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Some much needed updates talked about!
Gj CCP
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Komen
Gallente Industrial Services INC
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Posted - 2007.05.09 17:37:00 -
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Corporate wallet divisions? Wasn't this promised in...I dunno. EXODUS?
At least it's finally made it in. I'm sure CEO's will be happy, I wouldn't know, not having ever tried that career path.
The rest sounds nice, but i won't get excited until it's actually on tranq. Burned too many times with these things. ___________________________________
Wielder of the Trout of Doom(tm)! ___________________________________ |
Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.05.09 18:27:00 -
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some odd stuff here
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Salia Deluri
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Posted - 2007.05.09 19:37:00 -
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Great stuff! Please oh Please do something about personal space at POSes. Can you make a new corp hanger, name it something like personal dormitories, with like three sizes , 20 slot, 40 slot, 60 slot and then let us assign them to people in the corp. Or maybe you can just add the corp office code to a corp hanger and put a size restriction on the hangers?
Just rambling. Good stuff in the post though.
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Lord Matrix
PBA Corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.09 21:18:00 -
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I would like to see a search (by comments) function in the wallet. That way, you can easily have custom transaction numbers (as comments) and search for them.
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Spoon Thumb
Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority
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Posted - 2007.05.09 23:05:00 -
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Excellent!
now for POS?
Khaldari Research Services KPA Recruiting! |
Brain Gehirn
Caldari The Network Corporation United Corporations of Eve
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:14:00 -
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And.... where is the hangar individualization? How can i have many pilots sharing the same pos without many tabs on each hangar?
Have to use tons of secures?? no way... |
Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.10 06:02:00 -
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One thing that would help me out greatly -
Right now when you pull up your order screen on the bottom it shows how much isk you have tied up in Buy Orders with some other numbers.
I would like to see a number there representing your total value of your sell orders. Should not be that hard to do and would help for accounting greatly. -----------------------------------------------
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=439797Cli |
Johnathan Roark
Caldari Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.05.10 06:44:00 -
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I see a lot of good things coming, and it looks like the devs paid attention to that 13 page thread on this and mixed it with some of there own ideas. I will be looking forward to this patch and hope to see more down the road. /me goes off to sisi to test all this new and exciting stuff
Corporation Management Improvement |
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Morning Maniac
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.05.10 11:37:00 -
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very exciting stuff. As long as we can dump the export data in something like excel I'm sure the community will start to run with it. Also some other good stuff coming!
MM http://eve-ivy.com EVE University commercial |
Swedde
Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.10 12:09:00 -
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This is excellent stuff.
Could we also have a feature were you can open starbase structures hangars remotly - this would be very useful me thinks!
S DomDiDiDomDom...
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Tolomea
Gallente 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.05.10 12:42:00 -
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Quote:
Because of this now might have any or all of the following standings to another character:
* Character to Character * Corporation to Corporation * Character to Corporation * Alliance to Alliance * Alliance to Corporation * Corporation to Alliance
here's the thing...
the 4 we do have don't work
I'm looking at these NAP guys in local and they all have blue +'s cause they are NAP, but if I pull up info on any of them I get
5th -> their corp 0.0 5th -> them 0.0 me -> their corp 0.0 me -> them 0.0
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Spoon Thumb
Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority
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Posted - 2007.05.10 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Nice indeed, one change I would like thought is additional corp hangar divisions, 7 is not enough imo, but maybe that is harder to implement than the benefit it would give.
I'd love to see more corp hanger divisions. My corp needs at least a good half dozen more easily.
Also, speaking of gold, wtf is the "gold" section in corp assets for? Are we to take it that this and similar areas in corp interface are all getting cleaned up?
Khaldari Research Services KPA Recruiting! |
Sarf
Asgard Industries Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2007.05.10 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Spoon Thumb
Also, speaking of gold, wtf is the "gold" section in corp assets for? Are we to take it that this and similar areas in corp interface are all getting cleaned up?
IIRC there was a time in beta that your isk was limited to the station you where in and you could extract isk as gold, load it into your ship and fly it to another station and then deposit it.
This feature was UBER-NERFED out of existence.
- Sarf CEO, Director of Freighter construction. Miner of small balls of dirt. |
Serenity Steele
Rearden Steele
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Posted - 2007.05.10 18:00:00 -
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All very welcome changes. I look forward to seeing them on Tranquility.
Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - System Sovereignty - Alliance Rank |
Silvatico
Far Ranger
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Posted - 2007.05.10 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ionia Wallet Divisions
*Why no View/Take roles? these are ESSENTIAL.
Perhaps this doesn't go as far as you want, but my impression was that someone with the role Accountant would be able to see all the divisions, but using (i.e., taking from) would be set per corp member per division.
Originally by: Ionia Export Manager
* Personal as well as corp wallet exports. * Exports include COMMENTS attached to transactions. * Make sure we can download all transactions since the last download. * Make sure this is in CSV.
Totally agree, all are required. Having item group in the export would be helpful as well (e.g., to filter to only minerals, after I've downloaded an export file with everything in it).
Originally by: Ionia * Exports can group sub-transactions, for instance when I buy 500m trit in one go I dont want to have 75 entries in the export.
As an option only, which I think is what you mean, yes. Doing a big buy like that, I may want to know who was the largest supplier, which requires seeing the actual transactions.
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Sarinat Talen
Industrial Services INC
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:18:00 -
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After checking out the changes on the test server I found that all insurance, market and contracts deal directly with the corp wallet. Thus divisional wallets seem to be more of a way to distribute corp isk in a controlled fashion than anything else. How about each division being able to set market orders or insure ships itself. Then the corp wallet could perform all functions in each division. I makes a good way to see how individual projects are going, like one for financing the fleet, one for financing industry etc. It would let us check to see how each division is doing.
ISIN is Recruiting http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=343962 |
Alz Shado
Ever Flow FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.10 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Alz Shado on 10/05/2007 21:55:18
As long as I never have to see "PilotX bought STUFF from SalesmanY" again, I'll be eternally grateful. We don't sell "STUFF" -- never have, never will.
ps. with all this corporation loving going on, it's the perfect time to seed Station Container BPOs.
Please!
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TornSoul
BIG Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:13:00 -
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Personal (and corp) wallet export - Please!
While you are tinkering with all this already.
Please...
4 years of copying wallet entries is getting to me...
Please... BIG Lottery
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Code Monkey
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Posted - 2007.05.10 22:32:00 -
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Quote: I see no Wallet Export feature, still.
We will definitely want to see some sort of wallet exporting for corporations at least as a part of the new Export Manager. It's possible that we will not be able to get in a lot of exporting of personal data, at least not yet, because of the sheer volume of requests and the load involved.
Quote: Is there going to be a log from the hanger so we don't have to put everything in cans to see who is taking what. Cans are so annoying.
Hangar logs is something we did do a feasibility study on and concluded that it would be much too difficult to add in using the current system, so sadly there are no plans to introduce that in the near future.
Quote: Puh-lease.... can we get a pick-up deliveries role?.
The new remote item management features will allow those with access to deliveries to "Deliver-To" into member hangars, which should help out in that regard.
Quote: Nice indeed, one change I would like thought is additional corp hangar divisions, 7 is not enough imo, but maybe that is harder to implement than the benefit it would give.
Yes, this has been requested numerous times and we'd certainly like to allow corporations to have an arbitrary number of hangar and wallet divisions. However, there are some very severe technical constraints which hinder this (which I can't go into but this is no yarn) so I would not expect this to change any time soon. This is not something anyone likes to hear but I suppose it's better nothing to hear nothing at all
Quote: wow, i can't believe my eyes ... very good stuff which makes a little director very happy Very Happy But i would like to see more POS roles like "can use ship maintenance" or alike.
There might be some more POS roles coming in at some point. Right now you can configure your ship maintenance array to be accessible to entire corp or the entire alliance as well as the new Caretaker role.
Quote: Oh, and by the way: it's "All your base are belong to us", not "bases". You're breaking the joke there :)
Aw, crap!
Quote: Just one question about the caretaker-role: Is it possible to add a role for offlining special structures (for example Silos), while you still cannot offline the whole POS? This would be great for using minmatar slaves in a industrial POS.
That's something we want to put in and I wouldn't be surprised if we see that in one of the post-Rev2 patches
Quote: Still no UI overhaul. Surprise, surprise.
The corporation and wallet interfaces are being streamlined quite a bit actually.
Quote: After checking out the changes on the test server I found that all insurance, market and contracts deal directly with the corp wallet.
If you're referring to the "master wallet" then insurance and bills are always taken from (and paid into) the master wallet division. The market, S&I and Contracts should use the active wallet division of the person who initiated the transaction.
Quote: Divisional wallets are already in the game, they have been since 2004. Don't believe me? they are listed right here on the Exodus Features page
Ahh yes, that. Damn internet! Seriously though, these things are coming in now and they will be awesome (not that I'm biased or anything). So please go check out the changes on Singularity and give us feedback so that we can further refine these tools to suit the needs of all corporations, big and small.
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Tycoon Girl
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Posted - 2007.05.10 23:14:00 -
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Great changes but you forgot one that is much needed: Add the option "view market details" in wallet orders. I made a whole thread about it If you care to check/sign it in my sig.
Also, I don't know what the export manager will be able to do exactly but I hope we can export everything related to mission runners like bounties and agent rewards for a designated member, and be able to see how much taxes this member contibute for a time period.
Divisional Taxes would be nice too ! Market UI Improvment thread -> sign it ! |
Fergus Runkle
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.10 23:27:00 -
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Divisional Wallets, finally, cool
However after a quick play around a couple of things jump put at me
1) how do you transfer isk from division to division, sounds like such a simple thing
2) corporation orders, as viewed in the market window. more divisions, more people buying and selling (all good) means more orders. any chance we could see a dvision by each order in that window, or better yet some sorting ability please.
So far so good though, thanks.
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Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.05.11 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: Code Monkey Yes, this has been requested numerous times and we'd certainly like to allow corporations to have an arbitrary number of hangar and wallet divisions. However, there are some very severe technical constraints which hinder this (which I can't go into but this is no yarn) so I would not expect this to change any time soon. This is not something anyone likes to hear but I suppose it's better nothing to hear nothing at all
By technical constraints you mean you dont want to recode this part and format the database differently?
I understant that simply having divisions 1-7 as columns in one of the corp database tables is much easier from a programming perspective, but creating a table structure that allows a dynamic number of divisions would be well worth the effort, and tbh I cant see there being too much of a rise in database strain, although there will be some increase of course.
We both know that developing code that limits features is faster and easier but developing code that can handle dynamic situations is much better in the long run.
By the way, as a dev that has actually posted in a thread about industry, can i assume that you actually give a **** (no offence to the dev team intended). If so, do you have an email I can spam?
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Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.05.11 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ionia As one of the people who has mailed in many times about this kind of stuff, heres a few pointers that have already been pointed out to you over and over, but I think its only fair that you have the chance to ignore them in this thread too.
By the way Code Monkey, I found it amusing that you actually did ignore everything from this point on in my post, rofl.
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Matthew
Caldari BloodStar Technologies
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Posted - 2007.05.11 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Code Monkey
Quote: I see no Wallet Export feature, still.
We will definitely want to see some sort of wallet exporting for corporations at least as a part of the new Export Manager. It's possible that we will not be able to get in a lot of exporting of personal data, at least not yet, because of the sheer volume of requests and the load involved.
The trouble is that if you don't give individual as well as corp exports, at least on the wallet, you're likely to see an explosion in the use of corp accounts and 1-man corps just for loading orders into, so you'll just move a lot of the load into the corp arena anyway. In a lot of small corps, you could even see the new divisional wallets just become effectively second personal accounts for the high-volume trade characters. Getting export access would be more than worth the hassle of corp-ifying orders for anyone with lots of orders. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines. |
Fergus Runkle
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.11 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Fergus Runkle on 11/05/2007 10:35:32
Originally by: Code Monkey
Quote: Puh-lease.... can we get a pick-up deliveries role?.
The new remote item management features will allow those with access to deliveries to "Deliver-To" into member hangars, which should help out in that regard.
I'm not sure if you guys understand how important and big a role the deliveries hangar is to production / trading corps. The new wallets are a great introduction, allowing corps more flexibility whilst maintaining security BUT it all falls down because if you give people the Trader role so they can buy / sell for their division they get FULL access to the deliveries hangar, not just for their stuff, but for everyones stuff, and that is just bad.
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Somatic Neuron
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Posted - 2007.05.11 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ionia
Originally by: Code Monkey Yes, this has been requested numerous times and we'd certainly like to allow corporations to have an arbitrary number of hangar and wallet divisions. However, there are some very severe technical constraints which hinder this (which I can't go into but this is no yarn) so I would not expect this to change any time soon. This is not something anyone likes to hear but I suppose it's better nothing to hear nothing at all
By technical constraints you mean you dont want to recode this part and format the database differently?
I understant that simply having divisions 1-7 as columns in one of the corp database tables is much easier from a programming perspective, but creating a table structure that allows a dynamic number of divisions would be well worth the effort, and tbh I cant see there being too much of a rise in database strain, although there will be some increase of course.
We both know that developing code that limits features is faster and easier but developing code that can handle dynamic situations is much better in the long run.
By the way, as a dev that has actually posted in a thread about industry, can i assume that you actually give a **** (no offence to the dev team intended). If so, do you have an email I can spam?
Aye, a normalized approach to large container structures, like Corp Hangar Arrays (by the way, can there be another role structure for POS modules that isn't tied to station hangars?), station corp hangars, ship corp hangars (carriers, etc), and personal hangars, would allow you to start out with a base hangar, and add them as needed. They could even be labeled differently in each object, and have different permissions assigned to them. So, for instance, I could have a three corp hangars in one station for a mining operation where the first one is the ore drop point for the haulers, and is read only to everyone but the directors, one for the corp mining equipment (mining crystals, etc.) that is full access to everyone, and a misc hangar for loot drops or anything else...
The same approach could be used for wallets...instead of hardcoding in 6 additional wallets, make it a normalized approach so that they can be added as needed. ---------- |
Roemy Schneider
Swingline LLC
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Posted - 2007.05.11 12:14:00 -
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sry, but... with all these twelve(!)-digit IPOs flying around, all you can promise us thus far is seeing-who your-shares-has (and i'm not sure i even like that ¦)?
we could start a chicken<->egg discussion here about shares functionality<->shares popularity, but the current system is the definition of lacking: you can create shares, give them away (without log), dividends and a few voting options
¦= "look, mom, 70% of our shareholders are BoB"
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La Muerte
Amarr Quantum Leap
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Posted - 2007.05.11 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: La Muerte on 11/05/2007 15:13:32 Any info on updating the '(un)locking of bpo's' system and the bugs associated with it? ( for example , the 'not in effect' tab filled with nonexisting entries)
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