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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
898
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Posted - 2017.04.26 08:55:51 -
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All those whose soul is not strong for sustaining revelations of most horrible should stop reading now. What I have to tell is the truth that brings pain and rage to us all who loves honor and right.
CVA has put me on kos. Behind of this all is criminal mastermind, senior diplomat of CVA who is the real power behind curtains. Some call him Xhjfx the Terrible or Xhjfx the Eternally Damned. I just call him Xhjfx the Flea ridden brute.
He finally got himself to flog so great anger and hate that he dared to attack the faith and Amarr Empire directly. It is very difficult to pretend be a amarrian loyalist alliance, if you show any kind of loyalty only during speeches on some rare occasions. So twisted is CVA's loyalty that during coronation of Her Imperial Majesty Catiz I, disloyal voices came from their fleet. Even outright hostile. During that time I was flying with PIE and we kicked member from our fleet for lesser violations and later shot him. Each can compare the level of loyalty our two fleets had on that unique occasion.
Nothing was done by the CVA leadership. Not even by Xhjfx the Relentless Heretic, who is so eager to punish those who he hates. One can only conclude he loves deeply those offenders.
Nothing was done to CVA member who pledged support for Purity of Throne and list goes on. Absolutely nothing is done to rise loyalty towards Amarr nor to defend Amarr. Those who do such foul thing are ridiculed with the blessings and full cooperation with CVA KOS admins.
When ProviBlock finally got itself Empyrean Council, Providence wide civilian government formed by holder coalition I was put aside by making me KOS. However I, Lord Vaari still wish to become leader of Theological Institute. My talents have not vanished because Xhjfx the Mockery of Faith put me on KOS. I still live and fly on Providence same amount of time than before.
Amarrian blood is boiling! Injustice Im right now suffering has enraged alliances around Providence, and promises of support has been sent for me. It seems even Heaven does not want me to leave my alliance, since I cannot quit my corporation for some reason. I have no roles and my corporation has new ceo.
Xhjfx the Devourer of Virtues has much to anser of us, the faithful people of New Eden. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Icecream Audit Office Electus Matari
808
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Posted - 2017.04.26 09:20:30 -
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Ah Providence;
never change.
Valat kalleimmatkin lailla virvatulten häviää
On polte suudelmain vain harhaa häipyvää
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TomHorn
Kresh Leaves
303
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Posted - 2017.04.26 10:11:49 -
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CVA has put me on kos .
lol , im sorry Lord Varri , i just couldn' help myself when i read this. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1594
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Posted - 2017.04.26 10:17:53 -
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It's cool, I'm KoS to Provi too. We can be KoS buddies. |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
798
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Posted - 2017.04.26 11:54:55 -
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I too am Red to CVA.
Someday, CVA will find that it is not me who is Red, but God who is Red; a Red God before whom CVA will stand at the Judgement to give account for their sins. And that Red God will only laugh as the sefrim carry CVA down to Hell should CVA persist in the red-setting of holy and righteous people like me. And Vaari. |
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1872
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Posted - 2017.04.26 12:43:04 -
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Its ok, half of the residents of provi don't check their KOS list anyways, that or they blatently ignore it. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3265
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Posted - 2017.04.26 12:46:54 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Its ok, half of the residents of provi are on their KOS list anyways.
Fixed that for you. ;)
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1873
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Posted - 2017.04.26 12:49:54 -
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That actually would explain alot.
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Sinjin Mokk
Horde Vanguard. Pandemic Horde
1221
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Posted - 2017.04.26 13:05:28 -
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I suppose it's tradition that I ask this question too, Lord Vaari.
Do you serve the Empire, or do you serve Providence?
If you serve the Empire, then CVA doesn't matter. God's message is clear.
If you serve Providence, then maybe God is giving you a sign that your path leads elsewhere.
Either way, good luck. I wouldn't worry much about CVA. They haven't defeated you yet and I don't really see them as being able to do it now.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
899
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Posted - 2017.04.26 17:15:19 -
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I serve the God and Empire. This has always triggered Xhjfx the Fiery Tyrant, who sees how little CVA is actually amarrian loyalist. |
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Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
38
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Posted - 2017.04.26 17:20:20 -
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The group of capsuleers stopped being supporters of the faith & empire once they placed a Caldari heathen in charge. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
140
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Posted - 2017.04.26 19:52:32 -
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Good thing I am staying out of this mess
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
The Scope Gallente Federation
423
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Posted - 2017.04.26 19:55:53 -
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That's not what that word means.
I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
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Jason Galente
Tempest Legion
1104
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Posted - 2017.04.26 20:27:07 -
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Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Vlad Cetes
No.Mercy Triumvirate.
102
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Posted - 2017.04.27 03:54:31 -
[15] - Quote
Also being KoS to Providence is another way of saying you are a competent pilot
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
902
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Posted - 2017.04.27 04:27:51 -
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I have basicly mined my entire career. |
Vlad Cetes
No.Mercy Triumvirate.
102
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Posted - 2017.04.27 04:52:12 -
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Vaari wrote:I have basicly mined my entire career.
Go mine us enough ore for 1.5 Avatars then. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
902
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Posted - 2017.04.27 04:57:37 -
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Vlad Cetes wrote:Vaari wrote:I have basicly mined my entire career. Go mine us enough ore for 1.5 Avatars then.
Im not your servant. Mine them yourself. |
Eumache
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2017.04.27 13:00:26 -
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Vaari wrote:I have basicly mined my entire career.
I thought CVA only set pirates KOS, why are they setting miners KOS?
And the Amarrians call us uncivilized.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1877
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Posted - 2017.04.27 13:05:25 -
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People who cast stones at their neighbors only can do so because their lawn isn't perfect, allowing them to find said stones in the first place. |
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Alia Nadasdy
Imperial's Capsulers
6
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Posted - 2017.04.27 13:14:59 -
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This CVA is dead. Like the New Empire with the new "Correct" Empress. The hunt for the Loyalists is on.
"We are the Harbingers of hope, We are the Sword of the Righteous"
"We are a shadow of the former greatness of the Empire"
Purist Lord Admiral Victor
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
903
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Posted - 2017.04.27 13:59:10 -
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Eumache wrote:Vaari wrote:I have basicly mined my entire career. I thought CVA only set pirates KOS, why are they setting miners KOS? And the Amarrians call us uncivilized.
In my case this is purely political kos. CVA grew tired of being exposed every day how far they have drifted from the path of faith and loyalty to the Amarr Empire. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
903
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Posted - 2017.04.27 14:01:03 -
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Even more than that, this kos is personal crusade of their kos admin, Xhjfx against me. He has searched for years reasons to put me on kos. He finally decided he does not need a reason because he can put people on kos list if he so want. |
Eumache
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2017.04.27 14:29:37 -
[24] - Quote
Deitra Vess wrote:People who cast stones at their neighbors only can do so because their lawn isn't perfect, allowing them to find said stones in the first place.
I knew a bunch of stoners lived in Providence. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Icecream Audit Office Electus Matari
815
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Posted - 2017.04.27 17:54:48 -
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Eumache wrote: I thought CVA only set pirates KOS
You thought wrong.
BR, Not a pirate
Valat kalleimmatkin lailla virvatulten häviää
On polte suudelmain vain harhaa häipyvää
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3285
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Posted - 2017.04.27 18:20:03 -
[26] - Quote
It's true: CVA only sets pirates KOS... because CVA's definition of 'pirate' includes 'anyone we set KOS'. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
904
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Posted - 2017.04.27 20:07:04 -
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Certain alliances and corporations are now added me on their access list. My war stasis is soon over and i must leave my corporation. Their access list ensures me safe docking access around Providence. Some supply drops are also promised. Supplies are especially needed and much more is required if Im to be champion of the Empire in Providence.
If you want, I can publish supporter name, their corporation name or even alliance name. Without asking to publish names, I just refer those who help me anonymous.
Today, after assassination anonymous gave me 2 fully equpped skiffs. Ships are located in Providence. |
Vlad Cetes
No.Mercy Triumvirate.
104
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Posted - 2017.04.27 20:35:46 -
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Vaari wrote:Certain alliances and corporations are now added me on their access list. My war stasis is soon over and i must leave my corporation. Their access list ensures me safe docking access around Providence. Some supply drops are also promised. Supplies are especially needed and much more is required if Im to be champion of the Empire in Providence.
If you want, I can publish supporter name, their corporation name or even alliance name. Without asking to publish names, I just refer those who help me anonymous.
Today, after assassination anonymous gave me 2 fully equpped skiffs. Ships are located in Providence.
You realize that they set you personally KOS. Any combat pilot in Providence will destroy those Skiffs, even if you join a friendly corporation. Perhaps it is time for you to realize the dream of Providence is not for you, join a combat skills group such as Horde and Karmafleet and burn it to ash.
Remember: God Forgives, -A- Didn't |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3287
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Posted - 2017.04.27 20:48:06 -
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Vlad Cetes wrote:join a combat skills group such as Horde and Karmafleet and burn it to ash.
Remember: God Forgives, -A- Didn't
Horde or -A- may be viable options. Karmafleet would likely get Lord Vaari's assets moved into their Keepstar, then wait until he undocks, kick him from corp, and let him try to get out of Delve in a skiff.
Mostly because I'd pay them to do it. |
Flash E Gordon
P A I R A D I C E Silent Infinity
1
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Posted - 2017.04.28 04:25:16 -
[30] - Quote
Vaari wrote:Certain alliances and corporations are now added me on their access list. My war stasis is soon over and i must leave my corporation. Their access list ensures me safe docking access around Providence. Some supply drops are also promised. Supplies are especially needed and much more is required if Im to be champion of the Empire in Providence.
If you want, I can publish supporter name, their corporation name or even alliance name. Without asking to publish names, I just refer those who help me anonymous.
Today, after assassination anonymous gave me 2 fully equpped skiffs. Ships are located in Providence.
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
904
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Posted - 2017.04.28 11:18:58 -
[31] - Quote
Im now promised reimbushment of all my ships is lose to Xhjfx the Barbarian or those who accidentally kill me because of kos. |
xHjfx
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
20
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Posted - 2017.04.28 12:16:26 -
[32] - Quote
Vaari wrote:All those whose soul is not strong for sustaining revelations of most horrible should stop reading now. What I have to tell is the truth that brings pain and rage to us all who loves honor and right.
CVA has put me on kos. Behind of this all is criminal mastermind, senior diplomat of CVA who is the real power behind curtains. Some call him Xhjfx the Terrible or Xhjfx the Eternally Damned. I just call him Xhjfx the Flea ridden brute.
He finally got himself to flog so great anger and hate that he dared to attack the faith and Amarr Empire directly. It is very difficult to pretend be a amarrian loyalist alliance, if you show any kind of loyalty only during speeches on some rare occasions. So twisted is CVA's loyalty that during coronation of Her Imperial Majesty Catiz I, disloyal voices came from their fleet. Even outright hostile. During that time I was flying with PIE and we kicked member from our fleet for lesser violations and later shot him. Each can compare the level of loyalty our two fleets had on that unique occasion.
Nothing was done by the CVA leadership. Not even by Xhjfx the Relentless Heretic, who is so eager to punish those who he hates. One can only conclude he loves deeply those offenders.
Nothing was done to CVA member who pledged support for Purity of Throne and list goes on. Absolutely nothing is done to rise loyalty towards Amarr nor to defend Amarr. Those who do such foul thing are ridiculed with the blessings and full cooperation with CVA KOS admins.
When ProviBlock finally got itself Empyrean Council, Providence wide civilian government formed by holder coalition I was put aside by making me KOS. However I, Lord Vaari still wish to become leader of Theological Institute. My talents have not vanished because Xhjfx the Mockery of Faith put me on KOS. I still live and fly on Providence same amount of time than before.
Amarrian blood is boiling! Injustice Im right now suffering has enraged alliances around Providence, and promises of support has been sent for me. It seems even Heaven does not want me to leave my alliance, since I cannot quit my corporation for some reason. I have no roles and my corporation has new ceo.
Xhjfx the Devourer of Virtues has much to anser of us, the faithful people of New Eden.
It's a nice story but once again "Lord" Vaari distorts the truth - but coming from a habitual liar it's no surprise.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that you are a self proclaimed Lord rather than a genuine holder of the title.
We had an agreement that you would stop slandering CVA and it's leadership on the Galnet forums, as you have repeated past form for doing so otherwise you would go KOS.
Like the fool you are, you claimed these were empty threats and you were being oppressed and eventually decided to break the agreement.
We simply followed through on what we said would happen - You would be set KOS as your slander won't be tolerated.
You chose to break the agreement so stop your petulant whining and accept the consequences as we were more than patient and warned you enough times. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
904
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Posted - 2017.04.28 12:29:00 -
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See how this...apostate tries to make me to blame of all this mess! Xhjfx the Apostate is great warmonger of Providence, who spares no efforts of ruining other lives.
His incompetence of managing order within his own alliance has lead total collapse on moral integrity of CVA. Heretics roam free to insult their allies and sabotaging their recruitment efforts. Event that broke my patience. If CVA does not care what their own members do, why they member what other alliance member do?
Xhjfx is great oppressor of CVA. Even Daedalus is either subjugated, or fooled because he would never allow this rot to fester. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
904
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Posted - 2017.04.28 12:29:48 -
[34] - Quote
Vaari wrote:See how this...apostate tries to make me to blame of all this mess! Xhjfx the Apostate is great warmonger of Providence, who spares no efforts of ruining other lives.
His incompetence of managing order within his own alliance has lead total collapse on moral integrity of CVA. Heretics roam free to insult their allies and sabotaging their recruitment efforts. Event that broke my patience. If CVA does not care what their own members do, why they member what other alliance member do?
Xhjfx is great oppressor of CVA. Even Daedalus is either subjugated, or fooled because he would never allow this rot to fester. had he have means to stop it.
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
904
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Posted - 2017.04.28 12:31:47 -
[35] - Quote
xHjfx wrote:[quote=Vaari]
You chose to break the agreement so stop your petulant whining and accept the consequences as we were more than patient and warned you enough times.
When you speak about yourself, do not use word "we" It makes you look even more ignorant than you are. Instead use word "I". |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3294
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Posted - 2017.04.28 13:29:43 -
[36] - Quote
Vaari wrote:Im now promised reimbushment of all my ships is lose to Xhjfx the Barbarian or those who accidentally kill me because of kos.
What about the people who intentionally kill you in Providence, regardless of KOS? I mean, I've got a jump-hictor and some buddies, and you like to go where there's rocks...
Heck, maybe I can borrow a couple-dozen rorqs from Gaar-ohhhh, wait. He's gonna need to import a hundred or so new ones to keep his minions working, isn't he? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3294
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Posted - 2017.04.28 13:32:50 -
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Hey, is there a 'Redeem X number of Vaari-corpses for a Jin'taan corpse' program going on? Some guys in Waffles might be interested in that.
Alternately, is there a threshold for Vaari-corpse redemption that can get an alliance off CVA's 'red' list? A small group, say, only 26,000 people or so. It might be funny to try.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1603
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Posted - 2017.04.28 13:36:09 -
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Really, Red? Smugposting about losing three hundred billion in Rorquals?
Tacky. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3294
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Posted - 2017.04.28 13:45:44 -
[39] - Quote
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Really, Red? Smugposting about losing three hundred billion in Rorquals?
Tacky.
What? Everyone's allowed to laugh at Gaara but me? Pffft. It's funny. PL's gonna go trying to be all smug about hot-dropping the one guy in New Eden who has more money than their entire alliance and costing him... pocket-lint. |
Niraad Khaaz
Un4seen Development Sev3rance
19
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Posted - 2017.04.28 14:50:44 -
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Vaari wrote:Im now promised reimbushment of all my ships is lose to Xhjfx the Barbarian or those who accidentally kill me because of kos. If I kill you it won't be by "accident".
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
904
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Posted - 2017.04.28 15:33:54 -
[41] - Quote
Niraad Khaaz wrote:Vaari wrote:Im now promised reimbushment of all my ships is lose to Xhjfx the Barbarian or those who accidentally kill me because of kos. If you it get killed it most likely will not be by "accident".
No need to fear Xhjfx the Terrible. He has already used much of his prestige on my kos. He does not kos you. |
ShaliWhacker
Rock Miner Industries Silent Infinity
0
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Posted - 2017.04.28 17:44:37 -
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The residents of Providence need to realize what CVA has become. Lord Vaari has my full support. Let it be known that I will NOT stand idle while my allies are beat down for speaking the truth as well as the obvious. This Must End. |
Yoshitaka Moromuo
Madhatter's Tea House Arx Alliance
44
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Posted - 2017.04.28 17:58:35 -
[43] - Quote
ShaliWhacker wrote:The residents of Providence need to realize what CVA has become. Lord Vaari has my full support. Let it be known that I will NOT stand idle while my allies are beat down for speaking the truth as well as the obvious. This Must End. And is infighting the answer?
The ideal solution is to handle this at the table, rather than in what may become a larger conflict within the whole of the region. The last thing we need is such a conflict. |
ShaliWhacker
Rock Miner Industries Silent Infinity
0
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Posted - 2017.04.28 18:15:13 -
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Yoshitaka Moromuo wrote:ShaliWhacker wrote:The residents of Providence need to realize what CVA has become. Lord Vaari has my full support. Let it be known that I will NOT stand idle while my allies are beat down for speaking the truth as well as the obvious. This Must End. And is infighting the answer? The ideal solution is to handle this at the table, rather than in what may become a larger conflict within the whole of the region. The last thing we need is such a conflict.
Infighting is not the answer. I will not go out looking for a fight or provoke one. You do not defecate where you eat. However you do not let your neighbor attack one of your family members, nor do you allow that to take place on your front porch. Both sides need to come to an agreement. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1603
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Posted - 2017.04.28 18:26:44 -
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Settle this like men of honor, in space!
Ratting contest, go! |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3296
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Posted - 2017.04.28 19:02:22 -
[46] - Quote
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Settle this like men of honor, in space!
Ratting contest, go!
Wait, Vaari's a miner. How about 'Whoever makes the most ISK in space in 7d'? That way both skillsets can compete. |
Merchant Rova
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
294
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Posted - 2017.04.28 19:16:11 -
[47] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Settle this like men of honor, in space!
Ratting contest, go! Wait, Vaari's a miner. How about 'Whoever makes the most ISK in space in 7d'? That way both skillsets can compete. Your alliance has lost enough Rorquals already, I'm not sure Vaari needs to add onto that total. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3296
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Posted - 2017.04.28 21:28:35 -
[48] - Quote
Merchant Rova wrote: Your alliance has lost enough Rorquals already, I'm not sure Vaari needs to add onto that total.
Vaari can't get into my alliance, first off.
Secondly, without any smug, or getting into just how many Rorquals there are operating in Delve right now, the 50 or so that were destroyed this morning were all the employees of one guy, Gaara's Sniper, and half of his fleet escaped. That's how much of an operation he's got. He's... kinda crazy, to be honest. So... he's not really a good metric for judging the alliance. |
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
567
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Posted - 2017.04.28 22:27:21 -
[49] - Quote
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Eumache wrote: I thought CVA only set pirates KOS
You thought wrong. BR, Not a pirate
Technically speaking, your alliance did get made kill on sight to CVA for destroying Amarrian shipping and stealing Amarrian property, which I believe does qualify as piracy.
I know you do not see that old incident in those terms, of course.
Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade
Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1603
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Posted - 2017.04.28 22:35:12 -
[50] - Quote
Can't possibly imagine why I was made personally KoS to Providence.
Practically harmless back then, really. |
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3296
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Posted - 2017.04.28 22:48:07 -
[51] - Quote
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Can't possibly imagine why I was made personally KoS to Providence.
Maybe tehy don't like your music? |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1603
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Posted - 2017.04.28 23:03:15 -
[52] - Quote
Everyone's a critic. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
2092
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Posted - 2017.04.28 23:03:56 -
[53] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:'Whoever makes the most ISK in space in 7d'?
7-dimensional space ?
Interesting.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3298
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Posted - 2017.04.28 23:06:31 -
[54] - Quote
That would be '7D'. Lrn2abbreviation. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
2092
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Posted - 2017.04.28 23:08:25 -
[55] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Lrn2abbreviation.
no u
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Punctator
Shadow-Kill Aureus Alae
36
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Posted - 2017.04.29 02:15:38 -
[56] - Quote
ShaliWhacker wrote:The residents of Providence need to realize what CVA has become. Lord Vaari has my full support. Let it be known that I will NOT stand idle while my allies are beat down for speaking the truth as well as the obvious. This Must End.
winter is comeing. There is no time for smack-talk. If you realy want support freedom and juistice, grab a ship and fleet up when time will come, and put differences away. Virtual hitler is comeing and justifying his brutal sloter and rapes as freedom for people. right... what true free people say? Freeeedommm! as wiliam walles, or hail hitla? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3300
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Posted - 2017.04.29 02:26:49 -
[57] - Quote
I think someone's linguasofts are on the fritz. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
904
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Posted - 2017.04.29 06:15:50 -
[58] - Quote
I suggest Xhjfx the Insane takes his medication before my war stasis ends. Right now im willing to accept just non kos status. If he is responsible for ending my +10 year corporation membership, price will climb up much higher. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
2097
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Posted - 2017.04.29 06:25:45 -
[59] - Quote
Why do you have to leave your corporation ?
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
904
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Posted - 2017.04.29 07:22:47 -
[60] - Quote
Valerie Valate wrote:Why do you have to leave your corporation ?
Otherwise Xhjfx the Warmonger puts my entire corporation to kos. |
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3301
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Posted - 2017.04.29 12:16:44 -
[61] - Quote
Vaari wrote:I suggest Xhjfx the Insane takes his medication before my war stasis ends. Right now im willing to accept just non kos status. If he is responsible for ending my +10 year corporation membership, price will climb up much higher.
You know, normally when you want to get something out of someone, you have to have something they want. What can you offer him other than more empty rhetoric, bluster, and headache-inducing stress? |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
905
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Posted - 2017.04.29 12:40:16 -
[62] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Vaari wrote:I suggest Xhjfx the Insane takes his medication before my war stasis ends. Right now im willing to accept just non kos status. If he is responsible for ending my +10 year corporation membership, price will climb up much higher. You know, normally when you want to get something out of someone, you have to have something they want. What can you offer him other than more empty rhetoric, bluster, and headache-inducing stress?
I will not cast fiery doom upon her. She can also demonstrate her loyalty to the Amarr. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
2101
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Posted - 2017.04.29 13:26:59 -
[63] - Quote
I'm not sure who is going to have the fiery doom cast upon them here. Things seem to have become needlessly complicated.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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xHjfx
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
21
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Posted - 2017.04.29 14:44:50 -
[64] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Vaari wrote:I suggest Xhjfx the Insane takes his medication before my war stasis ends. Right now im willing to accept just non kos status. If he is responsible for ending my +10 year corporation membership, price will climb up much higher. You know, normally when you want to get something out of someone, you have to have something they want. What can you offer him other than more empty rhetoric, bluster, and headache-inducing stress?
He doesn't have anything else to offer and hasn't for quite some time.
He had his last chance and blew it - showing himself for the untrustworthy, word breaking curr of a false lord that he is.
As far as we are concerned, it's a resolved issue brought by his own hand - and all he can do now is bluster, rage and make empty threats.
Quite funny considering he thought that it was an empty threat when we said he would go KOS for breaking his word. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3304
|
Posted - 2017.04.29 14:54:54 -
[65] - Quote
Vaari wrote: I will not cast fiery doom upon her.
Well, that's lovely and all, but have you demonstrated that you can, or are you simply offering 'I will refrain from detonating every star in Providence with the power of my mind' here? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3304
|
Posted - 2017.04.29 14:56:11 -
[66] - Quote
xHjfx wrote: He doesn't have anything else to offer and hasn't for quite some time.
Yeah, that's been pretty apparent on this end for a number of years now.
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
899
|
Posted - 2017.04.29 15:05:17 -
[67] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Really, Red? Smugposting about losing three hundred billion in Rorquals?
Tacky. What? Everyone's allowed to laugh at Gaara but me? Pffft. It's funny. PL's gonna go trying to be all smug about hot-dropping the one guy in New Eden who has more money than their entire alliance and costing him... pocket-lint. You are the only one talking about it here Arrendis.
As strength goes.
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
906
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Posted - 2017.04.29 15:10:19 -
[68] - Quote
xHjfx wrote:Arrendis wrote:[quote=Vaari]I suggest Xhjfx the Insane takes his medication before my war stasis ends. Right now im willing to accept just non kos status. If he is responsible for ending my +10 year corporation membership, price will climb up much higher. As far as we are concerned, it's a resolved issue brought by his own hand - and all he can do now is bluster, rage and make empty threats. .
Again, when you speak about yourself, do not use word "we" I dont take last chances or last wornings from serfs like you. As a amarrian lord, I give them i that pleases me. |
ShaliWhacker
Rock Miner Industries Silent Infinity
2
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Posted - 2017.05.01 19:57:02 -
[69] - Quote
You can keep saying what you will about Lord Vaari. Those who do know him, know he is an honorable and just man who speaks the truth. He is guided by the hand of your Amarrian God. Had I not seen it, I would not believe it. Why would CVA point their blades at an ally as enemies march on our beloved home? I stand with Lord Vaari and the honor he represents. Keep spreading your lies, but remember. If Providence falls this time, it will not be due to the efforts of our enemies. But the lack of cohesion of our beloved Providence. They are watching our problems very closely. They are not stupid. |
Amstat
ORE-Industries Silent Infinity
11
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Posted - 2017.05.01 19:57:03 -
[70] - Quote
Vaari wrote:All those whose soul is not strong for sustaining revelations of most horrible should stop reading now. What I have to tell is the truth that brings pain and rage to us all who loves honor and right.
CVA has put me on kos. Behind of this all is criminal mastermind, senior diplomat of CVA who is the real power behind curtains. Some call him Xhjfx the Terrible or Xhjfx the Eternally Damned. I just call him Xhjfx the Flea ridden brute.
He finally got himself to flog so great anger and hate that he dared to attack the faith and Amarr Empire directly. It is very difficult to pretend be a amarrian loyalist alliance, if you show any kind of loyalty only during speeches on some rare occasions. So twisted is CVA's loyalty that during coronation of Her Imperial Majesty Catiz I, disloyal voices came from their fleet. Even outright hostile. During that time I was flying with PIE and we kicked member from our fleet for lesser violations and later shot him. Each can compare the level of loyalty our two fleets had on that unique occasion.
Nothing was done by the CVA leadership. Not even by Xhjfx the Relentless Heretic, who is so eager to punish those who he hates. One can only conclude he loves deeply those offenders.
Nothing was done to CVA member who pledged support for Purity of Throne and list goes on. Absolutely nothing is done to rise loyalty towards Amarr nor to defend Amarr. Those who do such foul thing are ridiculed with the blessings and full cooperation with CVA KOS admins.
When ProviBlock finally got itself Empyrean Council, Providence wide civilian government formed by holder coalition I was put aside by making me KOS. However I, Lord Vaari still wish to become leader of Theological Institute. My talents have not vanished because Xhjfx the Mockery of Faith put me on KOS. I still live and fly on Providence same amount of time than before.
Amarrian blood is boiling! Injustice Im right now suffering has enraged alliances around Providence, and promises of support has been sent for me. It seems even Heaven does not want me to leave my alliance, since I cannot quit my corporation for some reason. I have no roles and my corporation has new ceo.
Xhjfx the Devourer of Virtues has much to anser of us, the faithful people of New Eden.
So now CVA can set everyone KOS just because he can. Ours ProviBloc Leader dont like the Freedom expression!. Providence is not the Freedom Region of "EVE Online" Already! Where is writed on the Book of CVA we can KOsable ours allieds just because i dont like the speech. Only the Aggresion is KOsable. Like that, CVA is not better than Pirate Alliance where 1 Men can chose the Destiny of everyone.
i hope CVA think more about the KOS on Lord Vaari EVE Online is Also a role play where everyone have fun without intefering other player, this is Providence, this is the Freedom.
Everyone Have Fun, dont be ****, like everyone know Providence is a Free World, we are better than this. Together we're Stronger. |
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
908
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Posted - 2017.05.01 20:27:43 -
[71] - Quote
I thank all who support me on these dark times. Faith and morals must endure over money and Xhjfx's personal glory. I have received multiple offers, some include invasions to Providence, some resistance inside Providence.
I hope Xhjfx the Tyrant sees his error and offers me a peace before he is emasculated by force. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
908
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Posted - 2017.05.01 20:30:55 -
[72] - Quote
CVA and no one else in Providence is bound by KOS. It is more like recommendation than order. You dont have to attack me. It is just wish of Xhjfx the Incestor. He is relentless ****** of his mother and dares to challenge no virtue. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
911
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Posted - 2017.05.01 20:37:15 -
[73] - Quote
Down with Xhjfx the killer of faith, on the day of y our death we will drink and we will sing. We are the loyalists of Amarr and we fight for our Empire. and when the Heaven calls every one of us dies.
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
912
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Posted - 2017.05.01 20:55:24 -
[74] - Quote
Amstat wrote:Vaari wrote:All those whose soul is not strong for sustaining revelations of most horrible should stop reading now. What I have to tell is the truth that brings pain and rage to us all who loves honor and right.
CVA has put me on kos. Behind of this all is criminal mastermind, senior diplomat of CVA who is the real power behind curtains. Some call him Xhjfx the Terrible or Xhjfx the Eternally Damned. I just call him Xhjfx the Flea ridden brute.
He finally got himself to flog so great anger and hate that he dared to attack the faith and Amarr Empire directly. It is very difficult to pretend be a amarrian loyalist alliance, if you show any kind of loyalty only during speeches on some rare occasions. So twisted is CVA's loyalty that during coronation of Her Imperial Majesty Catiz I, disloyal voices came from their fleet. Even outright hostile. During that time I was flying with PIE and we kicked member from our fleet for lesser violations and later shot him. Each can compare the level of loyalty our two fleets had on that unique occasion.
Nothing was done by the CVA leadership. Not even by Xhjfx the Relentless Heretic, who is so eager to punish those who he hates. One can only conclude he loves deeply those offenders.
Nothing was done to CVA member who pledged support for Purity of Throne and list goes on. Absolutely nothing is done to rise loyalty towards Amarr nor to defend Amarr. Those who do such foul thing are ridiculed with the blessings and full cooperation with CVA KOS admins.
When ProviBlock finally got itself Empyrean Council, Providence wide civilian government formed by holder coalition I was put aside by making me KOS. However I, Lord Vaari still wish to become leader of Theological Institute. My talents have not vanished because Xhjfx the Mockery of Faith put me on KOS. I still live and fly on Providence same amount of time than before.
Amarrian blood is boiling! Injustice Im right now suffering has enraged alliances around Providence, and promises of support has been sent for me. It seems even Heaven does not want me to leave my alliance, since I cannot quit my corporation for some reason. I have no roles and my corporation has new ceo.
Xhjfx the Devourer of Virtues has much to anser of us, the faithful people of New Eden. So now CVA can set everyone KOS just because he can. Ours ProviBloc Leader dont like the Freedom expression!. Providence is not the Freedom Region of "EVE Online" Already! Where is writed on the Book of CVA we can KOsable ours allieds just because i dont like the speech. Only the Aggresion is KOsable. Like that, CVA is not better than Pirate Alliance where 1 Men can chose the Destiny of everyone. i hope CVA think more about the KOS on Lord Vaari EVE Online is Also a role play where everyone have fun without intefering other player, this is Providence, this is the Freedom. Everyone Have Fun, dont be ****, like everyone know Providence is a Free World, we are better than this. Together we're Stronger.
Dearest Amstat, We have limits of expression. Those are dictated by the Conclave of Providence and my ideals are not included.
Ideals made of pure harm are illegal in Providence, but no one in their right mind can accuse me of being a enemy of the Amarr Empire. CVA is doing this for thier own pleasure and risking region wide unrest. I thank you for your support. It takes integrity of character of defying the Xhjfx the Relentless War Machine. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
2433
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Posted - 2017.05.01 21:43:24 -
[75] - Quote
Quit crying Vaari. CVA told you to keep quiet or be made KOS and you failed to live up to your end of the bargain. If you didn't care for the original terms of that agreement I guess you should have done something about it then.
Cheer up though because being set KOS by those chumps is really no big deal. I've been on their naughty list for years and I come and go as I please. They haven't killed me yet.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Shalishaska Laoch
Rock Miner Industries Silent Infinity
3
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Posted - 2017.05.01 22:36:28 -
[76] - Quote
Lord Vaari has my full support. Even Matari know an Honorable and Just individual when they meet one. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3349
|
Posted - 2017.05.01 22:45:13 -
[77] - Quote
ShaliWhacker wrote:If Providence falls this time,
Nobody will notice, just like every other time.
Shalishaska Laoch wrote:Lord Vaari has my full support. Even Matari know an Honorable and Just individual when they meet one.
We do tend to, yes. Which is why I can't for the life of me figure out what the second sentence has to do with the first. |
Coat Hanga Strangla
Fornicating with Bears Domain Research and Mining Inst.
0
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Posted - 2017.05.02 00:58:35 -
[78] - Quote
Who cares.
It's provi. |
Erika Wallker
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
6
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Posted - 2017.05.02 05:18:48 -
[79] - Quote
Vaari wrote:I thank all who support me on these dark times. Faith and morals must endure over money and Xhjfx's personal glory. I have received multiple offers, some include invasions to Providence, some resistance inside Providence.
I hope Xhjfx the Tyrant sees his error and offers me a peace before he is emasculated by force.
You talk about morals?
It is your continuous attacks on people in the coalition that lead to this. Your inability to listen to reason and inability to know moderation. You were only asked to stop slandering coalition partners on this very Galnet. You could not even do that. What makes me even more sad is that you believe you stand for the Amarrian values and Faith. You do not. You sir, are nothing but fool and a charlatan. Only tolerated and indulged by others of the faith because of your title but nothing more. There are people infinitely worthier of respect than you.
After enduring your insults for months on end I must say I am very happy you are KOS now. The communication channels have been a lot more pleasant and open lately. You say there are some that support you, yet it seems the majority is happy you are KOS now.
This will be my only post on this galnet. At least ours is free of idiots like you.
Erika Wallker
Pentag Blade!
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
912
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Posted - 2017.05.02 06:20:11 -
[80] - Quote
Erika Wallker wrote:Vaari wrote:I thank all who support me on these dark times. Faith and morals must endure over money and Xhjfx's personal glory. I have received multiple offers, some include invasions to Providence, some resistance inside Providence.
I hope Xhjfx the Tyrant sees his error and offers me a peace before he is emasculated by force. You talk about morals? It is your continuous attacks on people in the coalition that lead to this. Your inability to listen to reason and inability to know moderation. You were only asked to stop slandering coalition partners on this very Galnet. You could not even do that. What makes me even more sad is that you believe you stand for the Amarrian values and Faith. You do not. You sir, are nothing but fool and a charlatan. Only tolerated and indulged by others of the faith because of your title but nothing more. There are people infinitely worthier of respect than you. After enduring your insults for months on end I must say I am very happy you are KOS now. The communication channels have been a lot more pleasant and open lately. You say there are some that support you, yet it seems the majority is happy you are KOS now. This will be my only post on this galnet. At least ours is free of idiots like you. Erika Wallker
When man see everything he loves crumbling into ruin, very few can maintain calm. In the end I was unable to do so. Of course I could have tried do some thing differently when seeing back, but it is easy to be wise afterwards, is it not?. CVA's action during coronation were one of the turning points for me. Why remain polite to ones who amassed entire fleet and travelled long way to Amarr just to insult Her Imperial Majesty on her greatest day? |
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Erika Wallker
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
6
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Posted - 2017.05.02 07:49:05 -
[81] - Quote
Vaari wrote: When man see everything he loves crumbling into ruin, very few can maintain calm. In the end I was unable to do so. Of course I could have tried do some thing differently when seeing back, but it is easy to be wise afterwards, is it not?. CVA's action during coronation were one of the turning points for me. Why remain polite to ones who amassed entire fleet and travelled long way to Amarr just to insult Her Imperial Majesty on her greatest day?
Vaari,
We have the facilities in place now to handle complaints like these. Maybe Vigilante justice is allowed in your holding, it is not in Providence. You never did seem to care about rules, did you? No, you are a mighty Lord in the Amarrian Empire, rules do not apply to you it seems.
You personally have been guilty of many infractions regarding the protection of faith act, yet this does not seem to interest you. It seems to be that all others must bow to you and you yourself can do what you will. Those times are over, and I believe you need to look deep within yourself for the cause of these problems.
I fervently hope that your KOS status is never ever rescinded and that the theology institute will be able to flourish without you with help of our friends from loyalist alliances. In these loyalist alliances, you can find true nobility. Patience in teaching, openness to discussion and education, the way it should beGǪ
With Respect Erika Wallker
Pentag Blade!
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
912
|
Posted - 2017.05.02 08:57:12 -
[82] - Quote
Erika Wallker wrote:Vaari wrote: When man see everything he loves crumbling into ruin, very few can maintain calm. In the end I was unable to do so. Of course I could have tried do some thing differently when seeing back, but it is easy to be wise afterwards, is it not?. CVA's action during coronation were one of the turning points for me. Why remain polite to ones who amassed entire fleet and travelled long way to Amarr just to insult Her Imperial Majesty on her greatest day?
Vaari, We have the facilities in place now to handle complaints like these. Maybe Vigilante justice is allowed in your holding, it is not in Providence. You never did seem to care about rules, did you? No, you are a mighty Lord in the Amarrian Empire, rules do not apply to you it seems. You personally have been guilty of many infractions regarding the protection of faith act, yet this does not seem to interest you. It seems to be that all others must bow to you and you yourself can do what you will. Those times are over, and I believe you need to look deep within yourself for the cause of these problems. I fervently hope that your KOS status is never ever rescinded and that the theology institute will be able to flourish without you with help of our friends from loyalist alliances. In these loyalist alliances, you can find true nobility. Patience in teaching, openness to discussion and education, the way it should beGǪ With Respect Erika Wallker
Empyrean Council is next to impotent to handle most of the breaches made by CVA member. Sir Daedalus has veto and there is no doubt it is used every single time CVA member is brought to justice even if that one would have insulted Her Imperial Majesty herself. I have also no doubt that veto is never used when...-¿annoyance-¿is brought to justice.
Im sure however that in other areas Empyrean Council might work very well and ease the governing load from Sir Daedalus shoulders.
Im still applying to be leader of Theological Institute.
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Erika Wallker
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
6
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Posted - 2017.05.02 09:24:05 -
[83] - Quote
I am sure they will be fair in their judgement. You, however, do not even give the council a chance and immediately assume a victim role. This is exactly the kind of childlike destructive behavior that has caused so many issues for Operation Deliverance. I have told you many times that you are not a soldier fighting for deliverance but instead are its greatest enemy. You personally have pushed more people away from the faith than all the Minmatar put together.
You have the unique gift of being the most annoying person in existence that preaches constantly on how you believe we all should act. Yet can never find a fault with himself. Anyways, it does not matter. You had your chance to see reason. I shall repeat what I said before: I hope your KOS status is never revoked. The region will do much better without you. My only hope is that an open minded and patient person will take up preaching and converting in Providence instead of you.
With respect, Erika Wallker
Pentag Blade!
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
912
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Posted - 2017.05.02 09:43:07 -
[84] - Quote
Too open minded leader for Theological Institute and you can remove the word "theological" from the name of it. |
Erika Wallker
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
6
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Posted - 2017.05.02 09:48:30 -
[85] - Quote
Vaari wrote:Too open minded leader for Theological Institute and you can remove the word "theological" from the name of it.
Negative and destructive. Your two main qualities and the sole reason why you will never be leader of that institute.
Open minded does not mean accept everything. It means listening to what others have to say and have a discussions with them to bring them on to the right path by educating them in the faith. You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. You would do well to read that line a couple of times, maybe a few million times.
Pentag Blade!
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Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
83
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Posted - 2017.05.02 09:49:23 -
[86] - Quote
Vaari wrote:
When ProviBlock finally got itself Empyrean Council, Providence wide civilian government formed by holder coalition I was put aside by making me KOS. However I, Lord Vaari still wish to become leader of Theological Institute. My talents have not vanished because Xhjfx the Mockery of Faith put me on KOS. I still live and fly on Providence same amount of time than before.
You say this, when you yourself stood aside because your approach to being nominated for the Theological Institute involved the writing of a Codex, wherein you made several outlandish and outdated claims and accusations which are incompatible with the modern Amarrian Empire.
You were not made KOS to prevent you from joining the council, nor were you removed through ill-means, you stood aside sir. Your statements here on the IGS paint Providence with tar. Your continued aggression and slander towards your would be friends and allies make any going back even harder. You can't seriously think anyone would welcome you back after your unfounded accusations and name calling? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3353
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Posted - 2017.05.02 10:39:05 -
[87] - Quote
Erika Wallker wrote:What makes me even more sad is that you believe you stand for the Amarrian values and Faith. You do not.
Erika Wallker wrote:You never did seem to care about rules, did you? No, you are a mighty Lord in the Amarrian Empire, rules do not apply to you it seems.
I really hate to agree with Lord KOS on anything, but you know you kinda undercut your case with that second bit, right? Cuz... that's basically the gist of Amarr values and faith, right there: "the 'rules' are for other people. Whatever we do is fine because the magical sky-fairy said so."
Quote:It seems to be that all others must bow to you and you yourself can do what you will.
Yep. That sounds pretty damned Amarr to this Sebbie's ears.
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Erika Wallker
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
6
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Posted - 2017.05.02 10:52:46 -
[88] - Quote
There are many other Amarrian Nobels that are not like that, Arrendis. Those nobels can actually listen, educate and correct.
Please don't compare all Amarrians with Vaari... That would be a major insult to nearly all Amarrians in New Eden.
With Respect,
Erika Wallker
Pentag Blade!
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Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic Central Omni Galactic Group
83
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Posted - 2017.05.02 13:09:10 -
[89] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Erika Wallker wrote:What makes me even more sad is that you believe you stand for the Amarrian values and Faith. You do not. Erika Wallker wrote:You never did seem to care about rules, did you? No, you are a mighty Lord in the Amarrian Empire, rules do not apply to you it seems. I really hate to agree with Lord KOS on anything, but you know you kinda undercut your case with that second bit, right? Cuz... that's basically the gist of Amarr values and faith, right there: "the 'rules' are for other people. Whatever we do is fine because the magical sky-fairy said so." Quote:It seems to be that all others must bow to you and you yourself can do what you will. Yep. That sounds pretty damned Amarr to this Sebbie's ears.
Having lived with Amarrian's for several years of my capsuleer career I can attest to this not being the case. Perhaps 10 or 20 years ago, maybe even in some corners of New Eden far more recently, but they have their rules and scriptures, like many religions - they can be taken out of context, or bent to their own ideals. But for the vast majority this is no longer the case. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3355
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Posted - 2017.05.02 15:03:58 -
[90] - Quote
Erika Wallker wrote:There are many other Amarrian holders that are not like that, Arrendis. Those holders can actually listen, educate and correct.
Momiji Sakora wrote: Having lived with Amarrian's for several years of my capsuleer career I can attest to this not being the case. Perhaps 10 or 20 years ago, maybe even in some corners of New Eden far more recently, but they have their rules and scriptures, like many religions - they can be taken out of context, or bent to their own ideals. But for the vast majority this is no longer the case.
So they'd be fine with the Matari clapping them in chains for institutionalized generational slavery with the express goal of cultural extinction, then?
Because you know, last time I checked, that's still going on inside the Empire, and Miz and I just had very public spat over whether or not there's a snowball's chance in a stellar corona of convincing the Empire to release the remaineder of their slaves, or if we should just go ahead and launch into a G+¦tterd+ñmmerung in order to at least kill all the slavers before we die. |
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Valkorsia
IONSTAR Yulai Federation
39
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Posted - 2017.05.02 15:04:16 -
[91] - Quote
Hail loyalists!
As a newly appointed member of the Providence Empyrean Council, I can confirm what Erika Wallker has detailed here. She, too, is a council member and speaks truth.
Both of us have shown him compassion and offered advice, despite his attacks on CVA diplomats and pilots in Providence. Sadly, I feel Lord Vaari has lost his mind. His age and admitted drug and alcohol use have caused what appears to be brain damage. He often forgets what he's saying mid-sentence and appears to be genuinely disturbed. He's recently said the most foul things in CVA-Diplo channels, defying all logic. On CVA forums, he has called both Miss Wallker and I things I can not even repeat; foul things. Yet we still tried to always allow him a certain leeway because he is a Lord.
I was raised by my uncle, an Amarrian, and was schooled in Amarr after my family was killed in the Great War. I'm very familiar with Amarr tradition and the very title of this communication is a bold, ouright lie. I have never, ever seen an Amarrian lord speak and do the things Lord Varri has done. It's unbecoming of even peasants, let alone an Earl.
Despite his distraction and incessant, lunical ramblings on forums daily, CVA allowed him to stay and do his work in Providence - until - and only until - he violated his promised, earlier agreement with the magistrate. He was warned and counseled by many, yet he persisted.
It is Lord Vaari himself who attacked Amarrian traditions, not CVA. Again, I feel compassion for him, because I know his age, drug and alcohol use have rotted his brain. It's sad to see and despite it all, I still hold hope that one day Lord Vaari will see the error of his ways and begin to act like a true Amarrian lord.
Respectfully,
RAdm Valkorsia |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
912
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Posted - 2017.05.03 17:44:08 -
[92] - Quote
Im defending Amarr at all things and all times. When double standard apple drops from the double standard apple tree and grows in the field of double standard, it has no other options than to grow up into double standard apple tree.
This has happened into many CVA members and CVA aligned people. CVA is sailing forward with the reputation of somehow distant past of amarrian loyalist reputation. Same time this same CVA sailed all the way from Providence to Amarr Prime to literally tell Her Imperial Majesty to go **** herself during Her coronation day.
Had it been some easily disposable person, say me for example, there would be no second guessing and no excuses to put that person on KOS had someone would rised word about behavior. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3363
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Posted - 2017.05.03 18:39:15 -
[93] - Quote
Vaari wrote:When double standard apple drops from the double standard apple tree
You know this just sounds like awesome ginormous apples that can be a whole pie by themselves, right? |
Ascentior
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
321
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Posted - 2017.05.03 23:01:23 -
[94] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Vaari wrote:When double standard apple drops from the double standard apple tree You know this just sounds like awesome ginormous apples that can be a whole pie by themselves, right? No apple can be a whole pie. A good pie should always contain more than a single fruit.
Admiral of PIE Inc.,
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris (See 'PIE Public' for recruitment)
Honorary Fabricator-General of the Imperial Navy
Chosen by God to serve the Empire.
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
997
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Posted - 2017.05.03 23:43:57 -
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Ascentior wrote:Arrendis wrote:Vaari wrote:When double standard apple drops from the double standard apple tree You know this just sounds like awesome ginormous apples that can be a whole pie by themselves, right? No apple can be a whole pie. A good pie should always contain more than a single fruit. Then it shall contain Vaari as well. There you go, multiple fruits.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1886
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Posted - 2017.05.04 00:07:24 -
[96] - Quote
Meat pies. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3687
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Posted - 2017.05.04 00:18:24 -
[97] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Edit for clarity: because, just to be blunt, until the Amarr Empire itself ends slavery, or openly states that anyone else is perfectly fine taking Amarr slaves with the specific intention of breaking their will, their faith, and making them into something else? Until that happens, then yes, the official policy of the Amarr Empire remains 'It's ok for us to do whatever we want because the magic sky fairy says so'.
While that's not totally wrong, Arrendis, it's more like, "It's okay for us to do what God told us to, even if those things would be horrifying if someone else did them to us (if only because that would make it harder for us to bring the rest of the cluster into the service of our god)."
Divine mandate, more than divine permission to do whatever. (Even if some Holders do seem to sometimes interpret it as the latter.) It's not fair, but, it's not supposed to be-- that kind of consideration kind of goes out the airlock once you start throwing phrases like "directed by God" around.
If the Amarr really thought they could do as they pleased there'd be no need for penitence pits. (And I STILL want to know what's up with those, but not badly enough to be "tipped into" one. The Amarr seem to mostly talk it in "you don't want to know" sorts of tones. ... but, I really kind of do. So I guess it's more "I really, really don't want to talk about it.") |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3370
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Posted - 2017.05.04 00:34:30 -
[98] - Quote
Aria Jenneth wrote: While that's not totally wrong, Arrendis, it's more like, "It's okay for us to do what God told us to, even if those things would be horrifying if someone else did them to us (if only because that would make it harder for us to bring the rest of the cluster into the service of our god)."
Yes, and without any independent and empirical proof for the existence of the entity they're claiming 'told' them to do it, then Lo! It's right back to 'whatever we want', because somehow, 'divine will' always seems to be benefiting the people who get to determine just what the 'divine will' is.
So it's still 'Rules are for other people, we can do whatever we want because the magical sky-fairy told us to.'
Quote:If the Amarr really thought they could do as they pleased there'd be no need for penitence pits. (And I STILL want to know what's up with those, but not badly enough to be "tipped into" one. The Amarr seem to mostly talk it in "you don't want to know" sorts of tones. ... but, I really kind of do. So I guess it's more "I really, really don't want to talk about it.")
Eh, I'll take one for the cause of advancing scientific knowledge. Tell me where to find one, I'll check it out and report back. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3687
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Posted - 2017.05.04 00:40:54 -
[99] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Yes, and without any independent and empirical proof for the existence of the entity they're claiming 'told' them to do it, then Lo! It's right back to 'whatever we want', because somehow, 'divine will' always seems to be benefiting the people who get to determine just what the 'divine will' is.
So it's still 'Rules are for other people, we can do whatever we want because the magical sky-fairy told us to.' Arrendis, if that's really a thing you think? Maybe take a really close look at the Sani Sabik (Blood Raiders and others) living there in Delve. That's kinda what "rules are for other people" actually looks like.
Once you can see the difference this might be a productive discussion to have. There's a connection here, but maybe not the one you think. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3370
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Posted - 2017.05.04 00:47:42 -
[100] - Quote
There's no difference, Aria. Sucking the life out of people is sucking the life out of people, whether you're literally bathing in their blood or building your family fortune off of generations of their toil. |
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3691
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Posted - 2017.05.04 01:07:16 -
[101] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:There's no difference, Aria. Sucking the life out of people is sucking the life out of people, whether you're literally bathing in their blood or building your family fortune off of generations of their toil.
That's from one very particular point of view, Arrendis. I'm pretty sure you know better than to think it's the only one that's meaningful. I'd be really disappointed to be mistaken about that.
Either way, I know you too well to argue you should change your position on this. For one thing, you're clever enough to be able to see perspectives you're not speaking from, and I don't really have the energy for a battle you could probably fight with yourself. For another, you'd fight me on every point whether you really believed it or not.
You already understand the difference. Or, if, strangely, you don't, Ali can probably explain it in ways you'd be reluctant to fight her over. She had me attend her meeting with Ms. Leshrac, with a sidearm. It wasn't to protect either of them, except in the most metaphorical or spiritual sense. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
912
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Posted - 2017.05.04 04:39:35 -
[102] - Quote
I do not like slavery very much. I have spoken against it for well over decade. However when Conclave of Providence made decisions should slavery be allowed in Providence, I, Lord Vaari voted yes. This is because if Providence even wants to pretend it is prepared for future Amarr annexation, we must have as similar society as possible. Otherwise it will be very cold ride for many of our brothers and sisters who have worked towards the goal they do not fully understand.
I, Lord Vaari also voted for creating a supervisor of slaves, whose primary duty is to ensure humane as possible treatment of slaves and forbids their abuse in too extensive ways. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3373
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Posted - 2017.05.04 19:44:39 -
[103] - Quote
Aria: I have, as you no doubt expect, a response. It is, however, off-topic. So you can find it where such things belong. |
Valkorsia
IONSTAR Yulai Federation
39
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Posted - 2017.05.05 03:32:17 -
[104] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Vaari wrote:When double standard apple drops from the double standard apple tree You know this just sounds like awesome ginormous apples that can be a whole pie by themselves, right?
My statement has been edited to reflect a personal position, not one of the Providence Empyrean Council. If you have any further questions, feel free to write me.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3393
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Posted - 2017.05.05 03:52:02 -
[105] - Quote
Valkorsia wrote:Arrendis wrote:Vaari wrote:When double standard apple drops from the double standard apple tree You know this just sounds like awesome ginormous apples that can be a whole pie by themselves, right? My statement has been edited to reflect a personal position, not one of the Providence Empyrean Council. If you have any further questions, feel free to write me.
I'm confused. Are you saying you don't like pie? |
Erika Wallker
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
12
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Posted - 2017.05.05 06:41:29 -
[106] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Valkorsia wrote:Arrendis wrote:Vaari wrote:When double standard apple drops from the double standard apple tree You know this just sounds like awesome ginormous apples that can be a whole pie by themselves, right? My statement has been edited to reflect a personal position, not one of the Providence Empyrean Council. If you have any further questions, feel free to write me. I'm confused. Are you saying you don't like pie?
I must admit that I do like cherry pie... and that is much more pleasant thought than the rest of this thread...
Pentag Blade!
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Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
258
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Posted - 2017.05.05 07:12:19 -
[107] - Quote
Vaari wrote:I do not like slavery very much. I have spoken against it for well over decade. However when Conclave of Providence made decisions should slavery be allowed in Providence, I, Lord Vaari voted yes. This is because if Providence even wants to pretend it is prepared for future Amarr annexation, we must have as similar society as possible. Otherwise it will be very cold ride for many of our brothers and sisters who have worked towards the goal they do not fully understand.
I, Lord Vaari also voted for creating a supervisor of slaves, whose primary duty is to ensure humane as possible treatment of slaves and forbids their abuse in too extensive ways. We all are slaves to God.
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
915
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Posted - 2017.05.06 01:43:18 -
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In the open asteroid fields of Providence lives a alliance that has akways defended it's freedom, and so brave members swore and oath:
No more, an end to slavery or to our lives! Like our father, who fought before us. It is an honour to die for Lord Vaari This great oath, cannot break.
Fear the God and honor the Empress!
-House Valius battle shout.
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