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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:05:00 -
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...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
Because I said so...
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:06:00 -
[2]
 Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
I think someone needs to stop touching himself and get back to ratting for his Alliance masters.
This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless... |
Kolwrath
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
Whenever this sort of post comes up people always seem to over look the fact that people will just disband and reform new corps. Over and Over and over. So yeah your idea would not fix anything except anoy people.
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AirWalker
Amarr
Galactic Response Team
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:12:00 -
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what if......you posted your what ifs in the ideas discussion forum
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kolwrath
Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
Whenever this sort of post comes up people always seem to over look the fact that people will just disband and reform new corps. Over and Over and over. So yeah your idea would not fix anything except anoy people.
So what. At least people wouldn't be hiding in noob corps ffs.
Because I said so...
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sicarri Covenant
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
No downside except to when the non-noob NPC corp organizes and camps your entire alliance back into the corp... like the Borg. 
You will be assimilated!
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ... ~Liz Kali
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: AirWalker
what if......you posted your what ifs in the ideas discussion forum
Less exposure, and therefore less entertainment value.
Because I said so...
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
your idea compared to now:
all the alts that you are hopefully targetting with this idea can be trained up within 0-5 days and would not be affected
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the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some |
murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
your idea compared to now:
all the alts that you are hopefully targetting with this idea can be trained up within 0-5 days and would not be affected
Of course. That's not the point. Alts arn't the main issue here.
Because I said so...
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Kirex
Gallente
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:20:00 -
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I don't think this is the right answer...
Maybe just increase the tax to 15-20%.
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Yurii Chan
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:21:00 -
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what if... you suicide the person you want dead?
and leave the NPC corps alone.
wasn't too hard to think of really... was it?
and stop flogging the poor dead horse...
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Mr Escrow
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:21:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Escrow on 10/05/2007 04:18:02
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AirWalker
Amarr
Galactic Response Team
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:22:00 -
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i dunno about the holding corps......but i agree everyone should have the same chance of being war dec'd and not hide behind an npc corp
also a small corp that doesn't do much would be less likely to be war dec'd than a huge npc holding corp
sorry alt post by accident (mr escrow)
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Magnum III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:28:00 -
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Some people like the other players in the NPC corp to talk to them.
And some like them because they are not under obligation to be told what to do.
And those people would not like it if some ****er ****ed someone off and they got drcced for it and
Than they are fighting some one for no reason they know of and not even getting any fun out of it, it haveing nothing to do with them.
But one man corps are boring, I am in my own corp just to get the office spaces thow.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
your idea compared to now:
all the alts that you are hopefully targetting with this idea can be trained up within 0-5 days and would not be affected
Of course. That's not the point. Alts arn't the main issue here.
at first i thought you were creating some sort of reverse psychology thing to make people realize npc corps and missions were important
but now i think you just want to dwindle the player base
what is it you dont understand about people averting risk ?
they wont go to 0.0 now - they wont go with your idea - they will just QUIT
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the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some |
murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.10 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
your idea compared to now:
all the alts that you are hopefully targetting with this idea can be trained up within 0-5 days and would not be affected
Of course. That's not the point. Alts arn't the main issue here.
at first i thought you were creating some sort of reverse psychology thing to make people realize npc corps and missions were important
but now i think you just want to dwindle the player base
what is it you dont understand about people averting risk ?
they wont go to 0.0 now - they wont go with your idea - they will just QUIT
I know. Risk averse players will leave, and the influx of new players will not know any different, accept it as normal, and remain, hence improving the game.
Because I said so...
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Lavinrac Krad
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Posted - 2007.05.10 05:03:00 -
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Though with the Privateers nerf I can not blame Ganksters for having a little carebear hate at the moment (hence nerf calls such as this), you need to take the higher ground.
If your enemy asks for a nerf and receives it and you ask for a nerf and receive it, then you just made the game suck for the both of you. There needs to be compromise, there needs to be balance (Not nerf balance, but balance in the way you view Eve).
Miners, traders, mission runners, pirates, alliance members, and even scammers & greifers need to think about more than "What will make me uber, safe, rich, happy, ect..." Instead you must ask, "What is best for Eve? What should be so that not only I, but also miners, traders, mission runners, pirates, alliance members, scammers and greifers can enjoy the game with me?"
The horrors of the nerf bat must end!
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lusifar
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Posted - 2007.05.10 05:03:00 -
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besides the facts that some people DONT want to do pvp. but want to do some mmo without having to fight the other players..
what would you say if you where forced not to do pvp just because i thought it would be a good idea to remove it so people that didnt like it didnt have to see it...
stupid idea
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.10 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: lusifar
besides the facts that some people DONT want to do pvp. but want to do some mmo without having to fight the other players..
what would you say if you where forced not to do pvp just because i thought it would be a good idea to remove it so people that didnt like it didnt have to see it...
stupid idea
There is a game for that- it's called WoW.
Because I said so...
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Kiviar
Caldari
Dirty Sanchez Ltd
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Posted - 2007.05.10 05:09:00 -
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The best solution that I have heard for solving this problem is applying the same limits to training and ship piloting capability that trial accounts have. It allows people who want to stay in noob corps to stay in them, but it also limits their potential encouraging them to go out in to the universe.
Forums are what? |
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Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.05.10 05:12:00 -
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What if... you pay my monthly subscription fee and I'll play the damn game however you wish?
Short of that, go stuff yourself. I'm entitled to my idea of fun as much as you are.
I've given up all the benefits of a genuine player corp, just for immunity from wardecs. Don't like it? Tough crap. Get out of Empire.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.10 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
Hi Murder One. Let me cover a few things.
1. Just say it: you're looking for weak, easy targets. You haven't the skills to find as many targets as you would like, and you want CCP to hand you more of them on a silver platter.
2. You can kill people in NPC corps all you want. Suicide gank them.
3. There's no reason to wardec the people in NPC corps. We don't offend you, and you have no reason to fight us in highsec. There are plenty of other targets.
4. We don't want one man corporations. Your attitude and corporation have nothing to offer. That's why I'm in an NPC corporation. You have nothing to offer, nor have I seen anyone else with anything to offer. There's a lot of people like me, and we prefer the casual atmosphere of our NPC corporations.
5. You want to fight people in NPC corporations? Reach deep down into your pants, find some balls, and click my signature, and come fight me. I will whip you six ways from Sunday.
I think that's about it. Stop whining about not being able to kill anyone you like in Empire space and adapt. Oh yes, I've heard you say that before. Adapt. There is no shortage of targets, and nothing in this game gets handed to you on a silver platter. It gets handed to me instead.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.10 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kirex
I don't think this is the right answer...
Maybe just increase the tax to 15-20%.
Ah yes, the "lets tax NPC corps" argument.
Your player corp has a set amount of tax; the ISK gets put into the corporation wallet and your CEO can spend it how he sees fit. There is no ISK lost.
Were there a tax on an NPC corporation, that ISK would disappear into the ether. It would be an ISK sink. Personally I have no problem with that because Eve is about equality. I'm down with that. 15% tax on NPC corps and we can call it a "faction tax." However, don't forget that we're all equal. If 15% of my ISK is going to disappear into nothingness, so too is 15% of your ISK.
Thus, your corp base tax would also be 15%, which would not go to your corporation wallet, it would disappear to your faction. If your CEO wanted a 15% tax for corporate use, your total tax rate would be 30%. 15% to disappear and 15% for your corporation.
There's a REASON why this hasn't ever been instituted. Regardless of the forum whining, CCP does institute some measure of equal opportunity. If 15% of everyone's ISK is disappearing into nothing, there is no point instituting the tax at all.
Thus, we remain where we are in the status quo.
If you're looking for an EFFECTIVE way to sink ISK, try this: players who lose ships to CONCORD don't get paid insurance.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.05.10 06:03:00 -
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- No, people using NPC corps are the closest thing to controlled PvP as EVE has. I am not interested in war decs, or the idiots who hide behind them to take what they want from others. I work damn hard for what I have in EVE, and no little peckerwood like you is going to worm your way into my pockets.
- Members of NPC corps are not invulnerable, you just have to *gasp* RISK LOSING SOMETHING. OH MY GOSH, ITS HARD MODE.
- As for downsides, I can think of several. The privateer people will fish high security systems, watching people's employment history, waiting for the newbies to pop out of NPC corps just to pull a turkey shoot. You want proof of the deviousness in EVE? Look at the freighter situation in high-sec. A ship that could possible tank a gate camp gets insta-poped by 12 men blobs, IN HIGH SEC. Imagine the freaking chaos when they make it so CONCORD doesn't get involved period. YOU'LL NEED CCP TO IMPLEMENT A TERROR ALERT SYSTEM FOR JITA, PERHAPS ONE THAT USES RUBBER DUCKIES...
Long story short, GTFO of how I play my game, I don't hurt anyone, so leave me be.
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.05.10 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
Honestly i have thought about this and i like it.. but with a tweak. People get 6mths in an noob corp and then have to join one of the faction corps in game, these faction corps could have standing wardecs, but they would be modified so you still take a security hit, however a greatly reduced one. Pod kills would still retain their regular low sec penalty to reduce griefing.
Just a thought...
Recruiting Terrorists |
Fswd
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Posted - 2007.05.10 06:15:00 -
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Proof of stfu
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ArmyOfMe
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2007.05.10 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kirex
I don't think this is the right answer...
Maybe just increase the tax to 15-20%.
Would be a nice isk sink and possibly a very good solution to getting ppl out of npc corps
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Kylar Renpurs
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Posted - 2007.05.10 06:25:00 -
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What if... the op realised that people in NPC corps are just as gimped in terms of fighting back against PC corps?
Improve Market Competition! |
murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.10 06:40:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Ryas Nia
Originally by: murder one
...and into the existing NPC holding corps we have now, but with one difference: all NPC holding corps would be able to be war decced.
This would ensure that any player in Eve could have war declared upon them. Don't like to be in a big NPC corp with dozens of wardecs declared upon it daily? Simply start a one man corp and join it. Presto, you're out of that horrible mess of an NPC corp, but you're still able to be war decced (a good thing).
This removes the issue of players hiding in NPC noob corps for months, if not years. There simply isn't any downside to this idea. Feel free to post complements and vociferous praise and adulation.
That will be all.
Honestly i have thought about this and i like it.. but with a tweak. People get 6mths in an noob corp and then have to join one of the faction corps in game, these faction corps could have standing wardecs, but they would be modified so you still take a security hit, however a greatly reduced one. Pod kills would still retain their regular low sec penalty to reduce griefing.
Just a thought...
Good idea. I'm not adverse to that at all.
Because I said so...
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Tenebrion Darkness
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Posted - 2007.05.10 07:14:00 -
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First, towards allowing npc holding corps to be war decced, you do realize that would mean declaring war on an entire faction for I doubt (for example) the Amarr Empire is going to let you dec my corp and not do anything about it.
Second, on the standing war decs, who would these decs be with? The other npc holding corps?
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