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![Selphentine Selphentine](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1994501157/portrait?size=64)
Selphentine
Pastafaris
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Posted - 2017.05.03 09:17:57 -
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Mh, i was pretty sure about that impersonate thing, but as i cant finde sources, ill just retract that statement. |
![Aedaxus Aedaxus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/757919494/portrait?size=64)
Aedaxus
Digital Zone Corp
45
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Posted - 2017.05.03 11:49:23 -
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Valkaarie wrote:Hi, i will get straight to the point.....i am currently looking for a new corp/ home ...in the recruitment channel i posted my interest for looking for a new corp i was then contacted via private chat about joining a corp in the Goonswarm Fed after interesting me with what they could offer they made me apply via goonfleet.org once i registered i was then told that i was identified as a medium risk for some unknown reason to the alliance and in order to join i had to pay 500mil to get in the corp and alliance.
Is this common practice? as i thought i was a scam at the time... does anyone else know about this?
Thanks for reading
It is an in game scam. It is allowed as long as they don't break any of the EULA or Code of Conduct rules. If the person didn't say he's "an alt of X" or "member of a clan he isn't" or "recruiter for a clan he isn't" it's ok. If you have a lot of ISK, try it out,! It's like a "Nigerian Prince want to make you very rich scam". Also if you gave your API they will probably see your alts. Like when you have a "forum alt" or an alt in "TEST ALLIANCE Please Ignore", and they will probably not ignore that...
Please note that goonfleet.org is not affiliated with CCP in any way and thus be careful when giving them any private information or API keys or sending nude pics. Do not confuse RL websites even if they refer to EVE Online with the ingame content. If you scam outside the reach of CCP, local authorities have to be bothered with it and they don't have the time. |
![Aedaxus Aedaxus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/757919494/portrait?size=64)
Aedaxus
Digital Zone Corp
45
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Posted - 2017.05.03 11:55:02 -
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Selphentine wrote:Mh, i was pretty sure about that impersonate thing, but as i cant finde sources, ill just retract that statement.
In 2013 Article 8 has been updated to further clarify our rules on impersonation of other entities in EVE Online. The old text pertaining to impersonation in Article 8 contained the following:
You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer
This has now been updated to read as follows, for further clarification of our policy on impersonation of third parties in EVE Online:
You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer. You may not impersonate or falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player, group of players, character or NPC entity.
So yes, if I say I'm a recruiter for Goonswarm and my alt is. There is no technical difference and I'll get "the spankering" from CCP. The problem is that in RL law you need to have criminal intent to make the impersonation a crime. However in EVE online that does not have to prooven, only that person X syas he's person Y or a respresentative of such. Also they have to state that ingame. |
![Salvos Rhoska Salvos Rhoska](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94200397/portrait?size=64)
Salvos Rhoska
2857
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Posted - 2017.05.03 12:06:20 -
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Never pay to join a corp.
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![Pix Severus Pix Severus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1840256897/portrait?size=64)
Pix Severus
Empty You
6338
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Posted - 2017.05.03 14:11:38 -
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500m is a steal, you'll make that back within a week once you're in.
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![Yebo Lakatosh Yebo Lakatosh](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2112185336/portrait?size=64)
Yebo Lakatosh
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
240
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Posted - 2017.05.03 14:24:41 -
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Two afternoons if you are a newbee like me, three for alphas.
Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.
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![Soldarius Soldarius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/268384296/portrait?size=64)
Soldarius
O C C U P Y Test Alliance Please Ignore
1611
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Posted - 2017.05.03 14:31:01 -
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Why would you want to join an alliance where they instantly try to scam you? I hear Dreddit is still recruiting, and they aren't allowed to scam newbros.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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![Selphentine Selphentine](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1994501157/portrait?size=64)
Selphentine
Pastafaris
124
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Posted - 2017.05.03 19:01:10 -
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Aedaxus wrote:Selphentine wrote:Mh, i was pretty sure about that impersonate thing, but as i cant finde sources, ill just retract that statement. In 2013 Article 8 has been updated to further clarify our rules on impersonation of other entities in EVE Online. The old text pertaining to impersonation in Article 8 contained the following: You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer This has now been updated to read as follows, for further clarification of our policy on impersonation of third parties in EVE Online: You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer. You may not impersonate or falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player, group of players, character or NPC entity.So yes, if I say I'm a recruiter for Goonswarm and my alt is. There is no technical difference and I'll get "the spankering" from CCP. The problem is that in RL law you need to have criminal intent to make the impersonation a crime. However in EVE online that does not have to prooven, only that person X syas he's person Y or a respresentative of such. Also they have to state that ingame. PS: I'm not at all, it's just a bleeping example.
So i was right and you actually can petition this im from goonswarm give me 500 mil thing? |
![Tau Cabalander Tau Cabalander](https://images.evetech.net/characters/127433285/portrait?size=64)
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6813
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Posted - 2017.05.03 19:04:55 -
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Valkaarie wrote:Hi, i will get straight to the point.....i am currently looking for a new corp/ home ...in the recruitment channel i posted my interest for looking for a new corp i was then contacted via private chat about joining a corp in the Goonswarm Fed after interesting me with what they could offer they made me apply via goonfleet.org once i registered i was then told that i was identified as a medium risk for some unknown reason to the alliance and in order to join i had to pay 500mil to get in the corp and alliance.
Is this common practice? as i thought i was a scam at the time... does anyone else know about this?
Thanks for reading It is an intelligence test.
If you fall for it, you are a moron, and they won't recruit you. |
![Aedaxus Aedaxus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/757919494/portrait?size=64)
Aedaxus
Digital Zone Corp
47
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Posted - 2017.05.03 19:12:15 -
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Selphentine wrote:So i was right and you actually can petition this im from goonswarm give me 500 mil thing? Well, I don't know the specifics of that particular incident. In doubt report it and CCP will evaluate neutrally with all information.
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![Axhind Axhind](https://images.evetech.net/characters/765620573/portrait?size=64)
Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
299
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Posted - 2017.05.03 20:31:16 -
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Selphentine wrote:Aedaxus wrote:Selphentine wrote:Mh, i was pretty sure about that impersonate thing, but as i cant finde sources, ill just retract that statement. In 2013 Article 8 has been updated to further clarify our rules on impersonation of other entities in EVE Online. The old text pertaining to impersonation in Article 8 contained the following: You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer This has now been updated to read as follows, for further clarification of our policy on impersonation of third parties in EVE Online: You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer. You may not impersonate or falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player, group of players, character or NPC entity.So yes, if I say I'm a recruiter for Goonswarm and my alt is. There is no technical difference and I'll get "the spankering" from CCP. The problem is that in RL law you need to have criminal intent to make the impersonation a crime. However in EVE online that does not have to prooven, only that person X syas he's person Y or a respresentative of such. Also they have to state that ingame. PS: I'm not at all, it's just a bleeping example. So i was right and you actually can petition this im from goonswarm give me 500 mil thing?
If the person is not in GSF then perhaps. But most recruitment scams are done by people in the alliance. Only thing they are not allowed is impersonating diplos and of course, God Emperor Mittens. |
![Expendable Unit Expendable Unit](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94648626/portrait?size=64)
Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2017.05.03 20:33:05 -
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there are easier ways to lose isk |
![Hal Morsh Hal Morsh](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93430913/portrait?size=64)
Hal Morsh
Minmatar Confederate
584
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Posted - 2017.05.03 23:16:55 -
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Goonswarm used to steal peoples **** and kill/kick them for fun, likely just going to take the isk and not let you in.
Being sapient can drive us mad.
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![Galaxy Pig Galaxy Pig](https://images.evetech.net/characters/246663710/portrait?size=64)
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics CODE.
1246
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Posted - 2017.05.04 00:51:30 -
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I paid my 500 mil and was accepted the next day. That's how I got into. CODE.
Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
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![Infinity Ziona Infinity Ziona](https://images.evetech.net/characters/525352706/portrait?size=64)
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2789
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Posted - 2017.05.04 04:24:58 -
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No one wants to join Goons, let alone pay to join them, save your isk they're no longer flavorites of CCP.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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![ApexDynamo ApexDynamo](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95845985/portrait?size=64)
ApexDynamo
Hazardous Wormhole Rebels
40
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Posted - 2017.05.04 16:30:50 -
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Valkaarie wrote:Hi, i will get straight to the point.....i am currently looking for a new corp/ home ...in the recruitment channel i posted my interest for looking for a new corp i was then contacted via private chat about joining a corp in the Goonswarm Fed after interesting me with what they could offer they made me apply via goonfleet.org once i registered i was then told that i was identified as a medium risk for some unknown reason to the alliance and in order to join i had to pay 500mil to get in the corp and alliance.
Is this common practice? as i thought i was a scam at the time... does anyone else know about this?
Thanks for reading
Goonswarm is notorious for scamming players, by recruiting, They are also still salty after looseing deklin ;) |
![Vortexo VonBrenner Vortexo VonBrenner](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90758159/portrait?size=64)
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
2836
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Posted - 2017.05.04 19:19:29 -
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Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:I have absolutely no ties to Goonswarm, but as others pointed out there where some scammers in the past who tricked people into giving them ISK.
Don't accept the offer if he is not willing to jump your stuff out to null. Once you have contracted all your stuff over and it is on its way to null you can safely pay the 500mil ISK and join them in nullsec. The only sensible advice in this thread imo. some men...
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![Clockwork Robot Clockwork Robot](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95083194/portrait?size=64)
Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2017.05.05 01:07:10 -
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Are we really still talking about this? How did the low level troll bait spawn a three-page thread? |
![Axhind Axhind](https://images.evetech.net/characters/765620573/portrait?size=64)
Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
303
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Posted - 2017.05.05 06:20:57 -
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ApexDynamo wrote:Valkaarie wrote:Hi, i will get straight to the point.....i am currently looking for a new corp/ home ...in the recruitment channel i posted my interest for looking for a new corp i was then contacted via private chat about joining a corp in the Goonswarm Fed after interesting me with what they could offer they made me apply via goonfleet.org once i registered i was then told that i was identified as a medium risk for some unknown reason to the alliance and in order to join i had to pay 500mil to get in the corp and alliance.
Is this common practice? as i thought i was a scam at the time... does anyone else know about this?
Thanks for reading Goonswarm is notorious for scamming players, by recruiting, They are also still salty after looseing deklin ;)
Can confirm the salt. Blood raiders are much more annoying than guristas. Also drop those useless armour mods, when everyone knows that it's shield supremacy! |
![Cybertherion Cybertherion](https://images.evetech.net/characters/96420908/portrait?size=64)
Cybertherion
Pneumatic Cabal
79
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Posted - 2017.05.05 12:33:48 -
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I got offered a price far greater to join the swarm. I think it was because of my female alter-ego's talents. While I didn't read ANY of this thread all people where I live know goonswarm means "space sack full of bugs". And... this isn't even EvE terminology.
Every aussie understands what I just said.
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![Mikoto Sagara Mikoto Sagara](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92358484/portrait?size=64)
Mikoto Sagara
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.05.05 13:43:48 -
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Hey, wait, wait, wait! What're we playing here? Ret4rd Bingo? |
![Izekial Rage Izekial Rage](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2112557201/portrait?size=64)
Izekial Rage
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.05 15:59:31 -
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Yes I have been to minerbumping.com and read how you "Agents" revel in a real world murder and suicide, you use a tragedy to lay blame to anti-ganking and try to move forward with your own agenda standing on the very link to the news report. This is part of your codes legacy now. Are you and your compatriot's proud?
Here are the excerpts from your site:
http://www.minerbumping.com/2016/02/the-destroyer-of-code-part-2.html
Ming Tso February 26, 2016 at 3:04 PM
@Anon11:15
My god. I know we always make jokes about anti-gankers being abusive to their wives and children and that we in The New Order are proud to "take the hits so that they don't have to" but this is actual proof that we were right.
Anti-gankers really are family abusing psychopaths.
And Kalynn Shardani is dead. RIP
From the link: http://www.kiro7.com/news/two-dead-apparent-murder-suicide-near-shelton/28743735
"And they are starting to act like their AN HERO kalynn just before he prevented his child from becoming another ag shitter. Probably the smartest thing he ever did...."
GÇ£Nice wall of tears, loser. When you finally go crazy, don't forget your kids.GÇ¥
GÇ£Too bad your parents didn't have any kids that lived.GÇ¥
GÇ£Go AN HERO today, no one will care.GÇ¥
"And they are starting to act like their AN HERO kalynn just before he prevented his child from becoming another ag shitter. Probably the smartest thing he ever did...."
I honesty have to wonder about the mental and psychological state and fitness of any (alleged) 'human being' that can rejoice in the murder of an infant simply to promulgate their agenda, *especially* an agenda purely and solely based upon a computer game.
CODE, and the gankers that post here, oh-so-sanctimoniously condemn their victims for making "RL threats" in response to being impotently trolled and baited online, yet as you can see here they have absolutely *no* difficulty in reveling in the real-world murder of a child
I honestly have no idea what sort of person (and I use the term *extremely* loosely here, and in it's most generic sense) can find satisfaction and pleasure in the murder of a child. It boggles my mind and disgusts me in ways few things can do. And it equally baffles me why any sane person would want to willingly associate with, and applaud and cheer the activities of, such sociopaths, for only a sociopath would revel and rejoice in the murder of a child.
Forget Eve Online. Forget the game; its mechanics; its sandbox environment; its PvP genre and actions. We're talking about the real world here; a living, breathing *human child* that was murdered. To a normal society that is a hideous, heinous act condemned by all . . .
Except CODE . . .
Who feels that such a thing is just peachy-keen to crow about, and utilize to further their agenda, to fan the flames of their hatred for anything, and anyone, "anti-ganking".
Pick a side folks . . . and remember that the side you chose also reflects the humanity --or lack thereof-- inside you. |
![Obsidian Blacke Obsidian Blacke](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95082590/portrait?size=64)
Obsidian Blacke
Oberon Confederation
12
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Posted - 2017.05.05 17:42:56 -
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Izekial Rage wrote:Yes I have been to minerbumping.com and read how you "Agents" revel in a real world murder and suicide, you use a tragedy to lay blame to anti-ganking and try to move forward with your own agenda standing on the very link to the news report. This is part of your codes legacy now. Are you and your compatriot's proud? Here are the excerpts from your site: http://www.minerbumping.com/2016/02/the-destroyer-of-code-part-2.html
Ming Tso February 26, 2016 at 3:04 PM @Anon11:15 My god. I know we always make jokes about anti-gankers being abusive to their wives and children and that we in The New Order are proud to "take the hits so that they don't have to" but this is actual proof that we were right. Anti-gankers really are family abusing psychopaths. And Kalynn Shardani is dead. RIP From the link: http://www.kiro7.com/news/two-dead-apparent-murder-suicide-near-shelton/28743735
"And they are starting to act like their AN HERO kalynn just before he prevented his child from becoming another ag shitter. Probably the smartest thing he ever did...." GÇ£Nice wall of tears, loser. When you finally go crazy, don't forget your kids.GÇ¥ GÇ£Too bad your parents didn't have any kids that lived.GÇ¥ GÇ£Go AN HERO today, no one will care.GÇ¥ "And they are starting to act like their AN HERO kalynn just before he prevented his child from becoming another ag shitter. Probably the smartest thing he ever did...." I honesty have to wonder about the mental and psychological state and fitness of any (alleged) 'human being' that can rejoice in the murder of an infant simply to promulgate their agenda, *especially* an agenda purely and solely based upon a computer game. CODE, and the gankers that post here, oh-so-sanctimoniously condemn their victims for making "RL threats" in response to being impotently trolled and baited online, yet as you can see here they have absolutely *no* difficulty in reveling in the real-world murder of a child I honestly have no idea what sort of person (and I use the term *extremely* loosely here, and in it's most generic sense) can find satisfaction and pleasure in the murder of a child. It boggles my mind and disgusts me in ways few things can do. And it equally baffles me why any sane person would want to willingly associate with, and applaud and cheer the activities of, such sociopaths, for only a sociopath would revel and rejoice in the murder of a child. Forget Eve Online. Forget the game; its mechanics; its sandbox environment; its PvP genre and actions. We're talking about the real world here; a living, breathing *human child* that was murdered. To a normal society that is a hideous, heinous act condemned by all . . . Except CODE . . . Who feels that such a thing is just peachy-keen to crow about, and utilize to further their agenda, to fan the flames of their hatred for anything, and anyone, "anti-ganking". Pick a side folks . . . and remember that the side you chose also reflects the humanity --or lack thereof-- inside you.
People make tasteless jokes (more at 11), but you actually sound crazy. :p |
![Ima Wreckyou Ima Wreckyou](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94129743/portrait?size=64)
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
4027
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Posted - 2017.05.05 18:06:49 -
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The stuff you listed which where supposedly said by CODE. members.. It does not even matter if it was a CODE. member, I think we can all agree that this kind of stuff is absolutely disgusting and horrible.
You know what else is disgusting and horrible? To use the death of a person and the words of a single person in an attempt to win cheap points against an in-game alliance you have a problem with.
So you my friend are completely on the same level with the guy you cited in that you took it outside the game and used this horrible tragedy to push your agenda.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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![Salvos Rhoska Salvos Rhoska](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94200397/portrait?size=64)
Salvos Rhoska
2897
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Posted - 2017.05.05 19:55:24 -
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Busted.
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![Izekial Rage Izekial Rage](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2112557201/portrait?size=64)
Izekial Rage
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.06 04:32:51 -
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I merely took the posting from their blog, minerbumping.com. As the code agents would teach me one must become like the monster in order to survive, I merely adopt their ways. |
![ISD Decoy ISD Decoy](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94650048/portrait?size=64)
ISD Decoy
isd community communications liaisons
1746
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Posted - 2017.05.06 04:48:35 -
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This thread has run its course.
Quote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
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