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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2017.05.08 18:50:51 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:guigui lechat wrote:Julanna Egnald wrote:Just as an aside, I was thinking that if the PI UI is painful, then DOTAs and RTS's must be out of the question, at least any kind of serious gameplay I dont click on dota, it's too slow, I have one click to cast/use where my mouse is. I still double click tp/blink to go to base. AND the ui is way better in dota. just in case you didnt know. (my hand does not hurt when I play dota) There is your solutuon: stop playing EvE and go back to Dota. Glad to be of assistance.
Can't go to dota, that's way too much clicking |
Hipqo
Tyde8
175
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Posted - 2017.05.08 20:40:28 -
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You will never be a pro gamer!! http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/how-fast-fast-some-pro-gamers-make-10-moves-second-8C11422946
A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
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CMDR-HerpyDerpy Hurishima
Debitum Naturae Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2017.05.09 04:19:59 -
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Should play click the cookie, now thats a hand cramp (not sure how your hand physically hurts after just 70 clicks, i do atleast 1000 or more a day, no precise numbers though) |
Elinara Yamamoto
Latex Entosis Insignificant Others
49
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Posted - 2017.05.09 05:44:36 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:guigui lechat wrote:Julanna Egnald wrote:Just as an aside, I was thinking that if the PI UI is painful, then DOTAs and RTS's must be out of the question, at least any kind of serious gameplay I dont click on dota, it's too slow, I have one click to cast/use where my mouse is. I still double click tp/blink to go to base. AND the ui is way better in dota. just in case you didnt know. (my hand does not hurt when I play dota) There is your solutuon: stop playing EvE and go back to Dota. Glad to be of assistance.
My hand does not hurt when I do my 54 planets, and yes I have to move them whenever my Alliance moves the Nullsec they are living in, which can happen quite frequently. If you don't like PI, don't do it. Don't ruin it for everyone by taking away all the profitability, which will happen if its a 1 click place saved setup kinda operation. Maybe even share the saved setups like ship fittings, so that everyone has PI as passive setups and no one can actually have it as their main income and profession anymore... |
guigui lechat
the no fock given
36
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Posted - 2017.05.09 08:09:26 -
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If I could ruin 100. lives, I swear I would do it, just for the fun.
I definitely would prefer to ruin your life and have a less tedious PI. I actually would enjoy it. |
Magnus Jax
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Posted - 2017.05.09 08:19:41 -
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guigui lechat wrote:If I could ruin 100. lives, I swear I would do it, just for the fun.
I definitely would prefer to ruin your life and have a less tedious PI. I actually would enjoy it.
Don't think we should be worried about that. So far the only thing you're good at ruining is your own killboard. seems that the second someone isn't holding your hand and telling you what to do, you fail. You should probably ask your FC how to PI. |
guigui lechat
the no fock given
36
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Posted - 2017.05.09 08:36:58 -
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Magnus Jax wrote:[useless rants]
all you can do is write bullshit. Please **** off child. |
Austin Blythe
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2017.05.09 11:16:57 -
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Magnus Jax wrote:The solution is easy: stop doing PI and find yourself a game where they have a gluten free safe zone area, where low effort instant gratification happens at every corner and you can vlog about your lunch.
Just what this forum needs, another internet tough guy edgemeister
/yawn |
Jahsunn Miles
Path of Now and Forever
0
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Posted - 2017.05.09 11:45:11 -
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Takes enough clicks just to set the correct extraction duration.
I am for an update on the UI of PI, quite a few annoyances about it which doesn't make is as enjoyable as it could be.
I found that I was having issues with my arm/hand because of PI, never had any trouble before nor do I in other games. Not sure what it is about PI (maybe it should be renamed to RSI )
Anyway my way around this was to activate Mouse Keys, so it saves me having to use my mouse for pretty much any clicking at all. Also the + is double click so even better. Saves time and pain :)
Give it a try, until they actually get around to sorting it out. Sometime this century at least |
guigui lechat
the no fock given
37
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Posted - 2017.05.09 12:51:06 -
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In my case, I think the pain comes from the UI being to imprecise and forcing me to correct my movement too often : when I click somewhere, actually the UI changes in-between the move and the click, making me do small moves here and there. those moves may be of no concern if I am doing very slow movements but since PI is tedious I try to go faster.
BTW I remember having the same difficulties (though to a lesser extent, so not painfull) when opening exploration cans, eg in a superior sleeper cache. When I take my time it's ok but some puzzles need to open the can fast (eg last room in the medium sleeper cache) and the UI does not process the click as fast as I do them. I have 10ms ping to the server, as a side note for people thinking this may be a ping issue. |
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Mortlake
Brutor Tribe
2928
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Posted - 2017.05.09 14:20:12 -
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I got carpal tunnel syndrome whilst trying to find a decent thread to read.
Just saying.
Behold, the asteroid belt in which I mine my fucks. Lay thine eyes upon it and thou shalt see that it is barren.
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Mr Mieyli
Hedion University Amarr Empire
614
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Posted - 2017.05.09 15:13:28 -
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OP, others have already said this but lowering the barrier to entry of PI will only hurt those that already do PI. Economics means that when you lower the effort you input, you lower the reward you get back. You're going to hurt yourself with this change you're asking for. If PI is too time consuming for you (and it isn't that time consuming) then, I dunno, do something else.
A case for more AoE in EvE
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Devon Stone
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2017.05.09 18:18:30 -
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Which is why i don't do PI or Scanning, data, relic sites.
Your wrist will pay. |
guigui lechat
the no fock given
37
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Posted - 2017.05.09 19:51:40 -
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Mr Mieyli wrote:OP, others have already said this but lowering the barrier to entry of PI will only hurt those that already do PI. Economics means that when you lower the effort you input, you lower the reward you get back. You're going to hurt yourself with this change you're asking for. If PI is too time consuming for you (and it isn't that time consuming) then, I dunno, do something else. Your opinion on the barrier of entry for PI is out of the topic. |
Marek Kanenald
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:01:04 -
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It's very simple.
tedium / isk * risk = constant
If it wasn't tedious more people would do it and it would thus pay out less.
it continues to pay out less and less until the tedium / isk ratio is restored. |
guigui lechat
the no fock given
37
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Posted - 2017.05.09 20:15:11 -
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Marek Kanenald wrote:It's very simple.
tedium / isk * risk = constant
this is not "simple". This is "meaningless", as the notion of risk and tedium are relative.
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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
688
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:38:47 -
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guigui lechat wrote:If I could ruin 100. lives, I swear I would do it, just for the fun.
I definitely would prefer to ruin your life and have a less tedious PI. I actually would enjoy it.
I am not really afraid of anybody that can not even handle a mouse. My cat performs way better than you do. |
Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
688
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Posted - 2017.05.09 21:41:32 -
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guigui lechat wrote:Marek Kanenald wrote:It's very simple.
tedium / isk * risk = constant this is not "simple". This is "meaningless", as the notion of risk and tedium are relative.
This was not the topic. PI is tedious indeed. Your topic was you have wimp category wrists. And that is not a criterium to change the way PI functions.
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Cybertherion
Pneumatic Cabal
83
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Posted - 2017.05.10 07:41:41 -
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For players of a click based game you guys sure know how to whine.
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guigui lechat
the no fock given
37
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Posted - 2017.05.14 14:45:41 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:guigui lechat wrote:Marek Kanenald wrote:It's very simple.
tedium / isk * risk = constant this is not "simple". This is "meaningless", as the notion of risk and tedium are relative. This was not the topic. PI is tedious indeed. Your topic was you have wimp category wrists. And that is not a criterium to change the way PI functions. I don't have pain in any other game.
I know masochism is a thing, but really not everybody considers that a game where you have to hurt yourself is fun. I totally understand that you may have to provide more efforts in order to have better income. But hurting oneself is NOT the same thing as providing more efforts, you have to understand there are differences between the two terms.
I invested SP into alts to try PI, and now I realize that without having a really good income the UI makes PI hurting. several activities in eve reaquire less interactions, are less tedious, have a better UI, and actually provide more money.
While I don't complain about the money (balancing the game is none of my concern), I can complain about the crappy UI that some masochists consider a feature but I think should not be present in the game. Maybe an idea for you next game CCP ? masochism online : just extract the PI UI and let people install PI on planet the whole day. I'm sure they will pay for it. |
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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
690
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Posted - 2017.05.14 15:05:34 -
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guigui lechat wrote: I know masochism is a thing, but really not everybody considers that a game where you have to hurt yourself is fun.
Sigh ... you don't "have to hurt" yourself. It is your choice to do PI. And I still think you're just a wimp and a cry-baby.
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guigui lechat
the no fock given
37
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Posted - 2017.05.14 15:14:57 -
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Just so you know, you are insulting. This will NOT make me consider your opinion as valid in any way. So you expressing this useless opinion of yours is only a waste of time. I think your parents forgot to teach you manners, so I'm just telling you. |
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