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Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.11 22:00:00 - [1] One of my alts was recently killed in a shuttle moving something very valuable. The pirates that killed me were using a battleship sitting roughly 6k or so off the gate that I was on my way to. Their battleship was in alignment with the gate that I was warping from. Apparently when they see the shuttle show up on scanner they activate loads of smartbombs on this battleship; shuttle pops before you even drop out of warp and pod usually insta pops as well. No matter what ship you are moving your valuable possession in make sure you scout it first. Having even a small amount of tank can get you through the situation I just described. But the pirates can always position more smart bombing battleships to blow up more heavily tanked ships. Lesson of the day: scout scout scout. Also: ----> don't transport stuff in things that can insta-pop <---- Some of you knew about this crap already but some of you didn't. Consider yourself Warned.....
Damien Smith Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.11 22:07:00 - [2] Wow, that sucks. What did you lose? ----- My sparkly tinfoil hat is extremely distracting, and makes my eyes bleed. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie) Actually... no, it was teh sig. I'm wearing tinfoil goggles already. -Teh Meow
jimmyjam Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.11 22:20:00 - [3] Good example of your never truly safe.
Saint Lazarus Guardian Heroes Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.11 22:46:00 - [4] muhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that is all ------------------------------
Kye Kenshin coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.11 23:23:00 - [5] WTF?!?! C'mon CCP boost shuttles!!!!!
Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:01:00 - [6] Keep in mind mates... I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to warn everyone. Carry on with it. To give everyone a bit more info: The exact spot where I was killed (and where they are camping pretty much every day) was on the Novokaiken (spelling?) gate IN Tama. I repeat: IN Tama on the Novokaiken gate.
Garrett Crowe Caldari Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:02:00 - [7] Vindicator BPC methinkz? --- Originally by: CCP Ginger. ...Or as I like to refer to myself. An imported sperm bank.
TheJacko Gallente Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:03:00 - [8] Originally by: Spillen Keep in mind mates... I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to warn everyone. Carry on with it. To give everyone a bit more info: The exact spot where I was killed (and where they are camping pretty much every day) was on the Novokaiken (spelling?) gate IN Tama. I repeat: IN Tama on the Novokaiken gate. does that mean we a popular now? :) oh and what did you lose off us?
Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:22:00 - [9] Lol. Turbulent is obviously watching this thread like a hawk. I won't give you the satisfaction of knowing what I lost. But I will say that you dented my wallet so badly that I then proceeded to consume large amounts of alcohol.
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:31:00 - [10] Originally by: Kye Kenshin WTF?!?! C'mon CCP boost shuttles!!!!! this is all because shuttles do not tank very well. Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.
TheJacko Gallente Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:48:00 - [11] Originally by: Xtro 2 Originally by: Kye Kenshin WTF?!?! C'mon CCP boost shuttles!!!!! this is all because shuttles do not tank very well. thats because shuttles have no slots maybe? :P its a shuttle shuttles are not supposed to tank well its there for getting you places faster if your not happy with that then train for a interceptor
jimmyjam Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:48:00 - [12] Edited by: jimmyjam on 12/05/2007 00:47:36 Edited by: jimmyjam on 12/05/2007 00:47:08 Originally by: Spillen Lol. Turbulent is obviously watching this thread like a hawk. I won't give you the satisfaction of knowing what I lost. But I will say that you dented my wallet so badly that I then proceeded to consume large amounts of alcohol. You should be drinking mass amounts of alcohol anyways.
Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:49:00 - [13] Edited by: Spillen on 12/05/2007 00:50:16 Lol it would be really lame if CCP did boost shuttles' hp or something. They won't of course (and they shouldn't) but it would be stupid. I'm just trying to warn my fellow rich eve players. The poor pirates are really getting insane with the tactics. Don't hate the pirates though guys. I mean c'mon, half of them are probably hurting for isk really badly. I give them props for figuring out a way to get a piece of some serious isk. I can only imagine what they've gained by using this tactic. Even further, I can only imagine what has been destroyed using this tactic.
Damien Smith Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:56:00 - [14] No, the vindi bpc was in a rifter I think. I reckon it's the snake alpha guy. ----- Join channel 'Turby' or die! (bring pie)
jimmyjam Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.12 01:03:00 - [15] Originally by: Spillen Edited by: Spillen on 12/05/2007 00:47:33 Lol it would be really lame if CCP did boost shuttles' hp or something. They won't of course (and they shouldn't) but it would be stupid. I'm just trying to warn my fellow rich eve players. The poor pirates are really getting insane with the tactics. Don't hate the pirates though guys. I mean c'mon, half of them are probably hurting for isk really badly. I give them props for figuring out a way to get a piece of some serious isk. I can only imagine what they've gained by using this tactic, even further though I can only imagine what has been destroyed using this tactic. You know the whole thing with smartbombing ships has been around a long time its nothing new.We smartbomb because we know people carry the nice goods in shuttles and small frigs.
Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.12 01:34:00 - [16] Originally by: jimmyjam Originally by: Spillen Edited by: Spillen on 12/05/2007 00:47:33 Lol it would be really lame if CCP did boost shuttles' hp or something. They won't of course (and they shouldn't) but it would be stupid. I'm just trying to warn my fellow rich eve players. The poor pirates are really getting insane with the tactics. Don't hate the pirates though guys. I mean c'mon, half of them are probably hurting for isk really badly. I give them props for figuring out a way to get a piece of some serious isk. I can only imagine what they've gained by using this tactic, even further though I can only imagine what has been destroyed using this tactic. You know the whole thing with smartbombing ships has been around a long time its nothing new.We smartbomb because we know people carry the nice goods in shuttles and small frigs. Like I said mate, some knew about this crap and some didn't. Just sending out a warning to those who aren't aware.
Akane Miyamoto Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.12 01:39:00 - [17] Smarties don't do dmg before you're out of warp (Patched a while ago) but yeah.. If you're in a shuttle or other small ship that goes instapop you're doomed ---------------
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.12 01:41:00 - [18] tbh it's a very noble attempt to warn ppl but anyone who follows eve-o in the slightest will know that u don't carry things of value in a frickin shuttle. sb bs have been uses for sooooo long. the only ppl who maybe need a warning are ppl not hugely into the game that don't follow eve forums and guides so won't really help them. DE
T'Renn Crimson Squall Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.12 02:19:00 - [19] 1. You lock the target 2. You bait the line 3. You slowly spread the net and 4. You catch ze man. -- Wanna be a low-sec scumbag?
Tellenta White-Noise	Posted - 2007.05.12 05:07:00 - [20] Originally by: jimmyjam Originally by: Spillen Edited by: Spillen on 12/05/2007 00:47:33 Lol it would be really lame if CCP did boost shuttles' hp or something. They won't of course (and they shouldn't) but it would be stupid. I'm just trying to warn my fellow rich eve players. The poor pirates are really getting insane with the tactics. Don't hate the pirates though guys. I mean c'mon, half of them are probably hurting for isk really badly. I give them props for figuring out a way to get a piece of some serious isk. I can only imagine what they've gained by using this tactic, even further though I can only imagine what has been destroyed using this tactic. You know the whole thing with smartbombing ships has been around a long time its nothing new.We smartbomb because we know people carry the nice goods in shuttles and small frigs. people need to start putting valuables in haulers again... its been a while since i saw something other than quaffe and cargo expanders
Sc0rpion Minmatar MetaForge Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.05.12 05:34:00 - [21] Originally by: T'Renn 1. You lock the target 2. You bait the line 3. You slowly spread the net and 4. You catch ze man. I love that song. The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously. -Friedrich Nietzsche Killmails are for pooftas.
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.05.12 06:27:00 - [22] Originally by: Spillen I'm just trying to warn my fellow rich eve players. The poor pirates are really getting insane with the tactics. Right until that point, you were fast climbing the ranks of the best gankees in eve history. And then you went and had to act all smug. You almost tricked me into respecting your attitude, but I have thusly been forced to conclude that you deserved not only that loss, but countless more losses of greater value. And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ
Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.12 07:24:00 - [23] Originally by: deathforge Originally by: Spillen I'm just trying to warn my fellow rich eve players. The poor pirates are really getting insane with the tactics. Right until that point, you were fast climbing the ranks of the best gankees in eve history. And then you went and had to act all smug. You almost tricked me into respecting your attitude, but I have thusly been forced to conclude that you deserved not only that loss, but countless more losses of greater value. Omg don't take it so seriously. A little sensitive?
TheJacko Gallente Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.12 15:59:00 - [24] Originally by: Spillen Omg don't take it so seriously. A little sensitive? why post on the forums and tell everyone where we are? omg dont take it so seriously its only a game
Garrett Crowe Caldari Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.12 16:13:00 - [25] Well dude what was approx loss in millions and we can guess who you are? =P --- Originally by: CCP Ginger. ...Or as I like to refer to myself. An imported sperm bank.
Psorion Absolute Wrath Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.12 16:44:00 - [26] Ouch.. LOL Hmm, I had some friends in Tama a while ago ;) Hi folks ... u gave me some nice lessons about 4 months ago.. Thanks for the memories :) Cloaked and AFK at a system near you...
Auri Hella The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.05.12 18:46:00 - [27] I ran into a camp in Amamake today that was smartbombing. Being in a shuttle and seeing the ships appear on the scanner didn't exactly make me happy. But... by spamming the jump button I actually managed to survive. I don't know how exactly. The timing of the smartbombs must have been just right for me. Poor shuttle had 21% armor left, so I think I took two hits. I'm so never taking that way to Rens again when the map shows "just" 9 kills in the last hour, heh.
ReePeR McAllem The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2007.05.12 19:07:00 - [28] Shhhh the 5% of players that actually read the forums might find out!
Niton Stormrider HCD	Posted - 2007.05.12 19:13:00 - [29] Originally by: DarkElf tbh it's a very noble attempt to warn ppl but anyone who follows eve-o in the slightest will know that u don't carry things of value in a frickin shuttle. sb bs have been uses for sooooo long. the only ppl who maybe need a warning are ppl not hugely into the game that don't follow eve forums and guides so won't really help them. DE Well, this helped me, so I guess I did need the warning; but I'm still fairly new. Funny, I JUST finished carrying a bunch of researched BPOS through lowsec back to my base, because I thought it was "Safe." Bah, silly me, nothing in this game is safe, that's what makes it fun! :) Thanks for the warning, I will start working immediately to circumvent this.
Wayward Alt	Posted - 2007.05.12 20:19:00 - [30] lol. Even those of us that know about this tactic or have used this tactic still get lazy at times. I was flying a shuttle through low sec manually, jumping to zero and didn't bother scanning or checking the map. I figured no dictor bubbles or other bubbles so why worry. BANG **** I'M DEAD and out a couple cheap skillbooks. Isk lost was peanuts but the lesson learned was valuable. Keep up the good work.
Kali Cortez coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.12 22:52:00 - [31] this thread it funny :D "A Warning to All Non-Pirate Players" ty tbh flavor
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.05.13 00:03:00 - [32] Originally by: Spillen Originally by: deathforge Originally by: Spillen I'm just trying to warn my fellow rich eve players. The poor pirates are really getting insane with the tactics. Right until that point, you were fast climbing the ranks of the best gankees in eve history. And then you went and had to act all smug. You almost tricked me into respecting your attitude, but I have thusly been forced to conclude that you deserved not only that loss, but countless more losses of greater value. Omg don't take it so seriously. A little sensitive? If the implication here is that I'm poor, couldn't be further from the truth. Divided between my characters, I have roughly 2 bil in liquid isk and the same in assets. While not omguberhax rich, I am very far from poor. You simply disgust me. And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ

hango Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.05.13 13:23:00 - [33] See the main problem here is that shuttles don't tank very well. *Hango hides forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website

Ryas Nia Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.05.13 13:39:00 - [34] hango im out of dead horse but will dead fish suffice? Recruiting Terrorists
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.13 14:11:00 - [35] Originally by: hango See the main problem here is that shuttles don't tank very well. *Hango hides So the real question is when are we getting t2 shuttles DE
Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.13 14:17:00 - [36] Edited by: Spillen on 13/05/2007 14:16:29 Originally by: deathforge Originally by: Spillen Originally by: deathforge Originally by: Spillen I'm just trying to warn my fellow rich eve players. The poor pirates are really getting insane with the tactics. Right until that point, you were fast climbing the ranks of the best gankees in eve history. And then you went and had to act all smug. You almost tricked me into respecting your attitude, but I have thusly been forced to conclude that you deserved not only that loss, but countless more losses of greater value. Omg don't take it so seriously. A little sensitive? If the implication here is that I'm poor, couldn't be further from the truth. Divided between my characters, I have roughly 2 bil in liquid isk and the same in assets. While not omguberhax rich, I am very far from poor. You simply disgust me. Whoa 4 bil in isk and assets!!!1 What huge e-peen you have... heh I bet you'd like people to believe you made that from pirating and not selling gtc's. Rofl. Not that there aren't pirates out there making isk,,, just not that many. You pirates that ARE making isk know that what I'm saying is true so =P. I disgust you? Cause I claimed that half the pirates scrambling for my isk (and others) are probably poor... my my... You should take a breather from the game mate and pop a chill pill. Perhaps have a cold shower. And whats with the "By the way, I own you" stuff? You probably pirate in a frigate cause ccp took your nano-phoon away. When you get REALLY brave I bet you pull out the vaga.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.13 15:01:00 - [37] Edited by: DarkElf on 13/05/2007 14:59:12 Originally by: Spillen Whoa 4 bil in isk and assets!!!1 What huge e-peen you have... heh I bet you'd like people to believe you made that from pirating and not selling gtc's. Rofl. I think several ppl's problem with your attitude is shown perfectly right there. If you don't see why pirates would take offence by reading crap like that then that is the problem DE
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.05.13 15:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Spillen Edited by: Spillen on 13/05/2007 14:16:29 Originally by: deathforge Originally by: Spillen Originally by: deathforge Originally by: Spillen I'm just trying to warn my fellow rich eve players. The poor pirates are really getting insane with the tactics. Right until that point, you were fast climbing the ranks of the best gankees in eve history. And then you went and had to act all smug. You almost tricked me into respecting your attitude, but I have thusly been forced to conclude that you deserved not only that loss, but countless more losses of greater value. Omg don't take it so seriously. A little sensitive? If the implication here is that I'm poor, couldn't be further from the truth. Divided between my characters, I have roughly 2 bil in liquid isk and the same in assets. While not omguberhax rich, I am very far from poor. You simply disgust me. Whoa 4 bil in isk and assets!!!1 What huge e-peen you have... heh I bet you'd like people to believe you made that from pirating and not selling gtc's. Rofl. Not that there aren't pirates out there making isk,,, just not that many. You pirates that ARE making isk know that what I'm saying is true so =P. I disgust you? Cause I claimed that half the pirates scrambling for my isk (and others) are probably poor... my my... You should take a breather from the game mate and pop a chill pill. Perhaps have a cold shower. And whats with the "By the way, I own you" stuff? You probably pirate in a frigate cause ccp took your nano-phoon away. When you get REALLY brave I bet you pull out the vaga. You're not a terribly bright one, are you? Let's dumb it down a shade, hoepfully so you can keep up. At no point in my post did I state or imply that I am richer than anyone, in fact I made it pretty clear that I know I'm not overly wealthy, I am however extremely far from being poor. As for GTC's, I don't sell GTC's, in fact I buy them with isk, 3 every 3 months. The majority of it was earned through pirating, yes. And I've never flown a nanophoon, in fact I can't even fly battleships (at least not on this character, my main is actually a very uber blasterthron pilot, but that's neither here nor there), I fly a frigate most the time because I have cruiser 3 and medium projectile 2 You're simply the bottom of the bucket as far as carebear scum goes. In one simple sentence you took this thread from a very commendable warning and a damned respectable attitude to the same 'well i have more isk' bull**** we have to listen to every day from random carebears we pod for a laugh. So yes, you disgust me. And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ
Lrrp Minmatar Gallente Mercantile Exchange	Posted - 2007.05.13 15:33:00 - [39] Don't know if it helps against the smart bombs but when I travel thru lo sec, I set a destination then when I hit wtz I hit auto pilot. When I enter jump at gate I disengage auto pilot. Repeat on other side. Minimizes time exposed as opposed to manually trying to hit jump button. Never been in gank with sb'ing BS's tho. Waves at the nice Turby pilots
TheJacko Gallente Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:47:00 - [40] Originally by: hango See the main problem here is that shuttles don't tank very well. *Hango hides omg you dont say? :P

hango Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:43:00 - [41] Quote: hango im out of dead horse but will dead fish suffice? Of course. Dead horses will be necessary for references to the templar fighter drone though. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website

Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.14 07:30:00 - [42] Edited by: Spillen on 14/05/2007 07:29:34 Originally by: DarkElf Edited by: DarkElf on 13/05/2007 14:59:12 Originally by: Spillen Whoa 4 bil in isk and assets!!!1 What huge e-peen you have... heh I bet you'd like people to believe you made that from pirating and not selling gtc's. Rofl. I think several ppl's problem with your attitude is shown perfectly right there. If you don't see why pirates would take offence by reading crap like that then that is the problem DE Rofl. Thats what alts are for no? Bad attitudes and such on the forum? Just trying to get you guys worked up a bit and looks like I got ol' deathforge all smuckered up. DarkElf several people havn't posted a prob with my attitude,,, just 2 counting you I think. One can always count on you to get all 'noble' in the damned forum though. You know something DE, you are a bit of a frig flyin, washed up, pirate wanna-be forum ***. Just like the rest of your mediocre pvp** (that's right, not pirate) corp. I feel a thread lock coming on
Garrett Crowe Caldari Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.14 09:28:00 - [43] Spillen, I don't even know why but I have great respect for DarkElf so please dont be a **er on these forums if your going to try and take the morale highground. And also its funny that you dont quite understand how smartbombing battleships are done :) HUGS AND KISSES XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX --- Originally by:** CCP Ginger. ...Or as I like to refer to myself. An imported sperm bank.
Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.14 12:55:00 - [44] Originally by: Garrett Crowe Spillen, I don't even know why but I have great respect for DarkElf so please dont be a **er on these forums if your going to try and take the morale highground. And also its funny that you dont quite understand how smartbombing battleships are done :) HUGS AND KISSES XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX You have a great respect for DE cause he's a forum *** and he's always trying to be all noble in the forums. Who said I'm trying to take the morale highground? I'm not concerning myself with such theories as morality for the moment mate. What makes you say I don't understand how smartbombing battleships are done? I'm a lot of things but dumb is not one of them mate, let me explain: BS loaded with smart bombs sits more than 5k off a gate while being in alignment with another gate in the system that gets plenty of traffic to the gate that you're sitting on. As small things warp to the gate you're sitting on, you see them coming on scanner (which is set to an appropriate range for the task) and you activate all smart bombs (perhaps there is a bit of timing to get good at here). Shuttles and frigs (even t2 frigs ladies and gents) pop before they drop out of warp and the pods probably pop quite often as well. For maximum effect you could probably use 2X's smart bomb battleships and pop haulers as long as they don't have extenders/plates. Also for maximum effect you could put a cloaked alt on the other side of the 'source' gate to know exactly when shuttles/frigs etc are gonna be warping in. This would be to avoid having to spam the scan button constantly . My guess is you also put warp core stabs on these smart bomb ships as they don't need to lock anything nor will they be able to defend the gate camp if you should come under attack by another gang. I think that about sums it up. Let me know if you still think I don't understand. Congrats on getting me to explain in greater detail how to do a smart bomb gate camp. I'm sure that the pirates that are in-the-know about this tactic are loving it. And please people don't act like omg this tactic has been around for ages spillen etc because the fact is that many people that fall victim to this tactic NEVER figure out what exactly happened to them.
Hooch Flux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.14 13:02:00 - [45] Dont't know if anyone mentioned this but, Shuttles don't tank very well! At least thats what i've been told. I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
K'reemy G'udness Delicious	Posted - 2007.05.14 13:34:00 - [46] Originally by: T'Renn 1. You lock the target 2. You bait the line 3. You slowly spread the net and 4. You catch ze man. KMFDM FTW Sincerely, K'reemy ---
Frank Horrigan	Posted - 2007.05.14 14:15:00 - [47] So I hear shuttles don't tank very well.
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.05.14 14:27:00 - [48] Originally by: Spillen Just trying to get you guys worked up a bit and looks like I got ol' deathforge all smuckered up. Are you threatening to cover me with jelly? Originally by: Spillen Oh and hey deathforge: Originally by: deathforge The majority of it was earned through pirating, yes. Originally by: deathforge Rich is subjective, really. I'm no billionaire, I run level 4's or npc on an "as needed" basis (threadID=455848) And to think I accused you of being something other than a 1337 pirate who actually makes his isk pirating... That was many months ago before I started pirating with my main and a personal army of alts. I don't think I've run a mission or done anything but kill people in eve since..... hell, couple weeks or a month before I made that movie. And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ
Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.14 14:49:00 - [49] Originally by: deathforge Originally by: Spillen Just trying to get you guys worked up a bit and looks like I got ol' deathforge all smuckered up. Are you threatening to cover me with jelly? Originally by: Spillen Oh and hey deathforge: Originally by: deathforge The majority of it was earned through pirating, yes. Originally by: deathforge Rich is subjective, really. I'm no billionaire, I run level 4's or npc on an "as needed" basis (threadID=455848) And to think I accused you of being something other than a 1337 pirate who actually makes his isk pirating... That was many months ago before I started pirating with my main and a personal army of alts. I don't think I've run a mission or done anything but kill people in eve since..... hell, couple weeks or a month before I made that movie. Oh. Well then, sarcasm aside, perhaps you really are a good pirate. But why no battleship? Do you only belt hunt? No gate camping? Seems to me that some of the best loot in the game might be most vulnerable while on its way to Jita or something. I'm sure belt hunting is much much more exciting though. Yes my goal is to cover you in jelly. I will then place you between two slices of bread and nuke you. Nuked pirate 'n' jelly sandwich. /me stands by for the soon to come reaming by DE and Veto fan boys.
Agent Li	Posted - 2007.05.14 15:02:00 - [50] Originally by: Saint Lazarus muhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that is all Seconded. I take it the OP doesn't read the forums - otherwise they would have known about this already. Oh, and scout... ------------------ "Don't be afraid to take advantage of your enemy's weaknesses. Becasuse winning is everything after all."
Agent Li	Posted - 2007.05.14 15:04:00 - [51] Originally by: Saint Lazarus muhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that is all Seconded. I take it the OP doesn't read the forums - otherwise they would have known about this already. Oh, and scout... ------------------ "Don't be afraid to take advantage of your enemy's weaknesses. Becasuse winning is everything after all."
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.05.14 15:36:00 - [52] Edited by: deathforge on 14/05/2007 15:37:05 Originally by: Spillen Oh. Well then, sarcasm aside, perhaps you really are a good pirate. But why no battleship? Do you only belt hunt? No gate camping? Seems to me that some of the best loot in the game might be most vulnerable while on its way to Jita or something. I'm sure belt hunting is much much more exciting though. Yes my goal is to cover you in jelly. I will then place you between two slices of bread and nuke you. Nuked pirate 'n' jelly sandwich. /me stands by for the soon to come reaming by DE and Veto fan boys. I would have spent time training this character were he not on my main's account, so training to be good for something more than stalking belts isn't really in my best interest when I can just switch characters. But I have multiple accounts now, so I'm much more flexible in what I use to gank people. Think of this character as cheap thrils, compared to using another character with ruthless efficiency. Kinda like taking the scenic route. Speaking of Jita, I've played the suicide high sec ganking before, untanked sigil + 200 T2 shield hardeners (pre-invention) + 3 caracals with cargo scanner = pay day Fact is there's a lot of ways to make isk pirating, be it at gates, high sec, or even roaming the belts. e.g I ganked an omen in a belt, that dropped around 40 mil in loot for me, as I was turning to warp out his main warped in his shiney new hyperion, and got himself ransomed for an additional 180 mil (not with this character, I'm good, but not THAT good hehe). Just yesterday I nuked a random noob in a catalyst with my patented rifter of doom that gave me some T2 rails and armor rep, couple mil profit for a few rounds of small projectile ammo. And just for the record, I thought about it, and my covops alt is quite handy with scan probes and has been known to find me exploration sites (and of course mission runners to gank/ransom), both of which thus far have been quite profitable, though I have to get friends to run the sites as I lack hacking and arch skills on all of my characters (I have not a single industrial character, excluding 2 T1 hauler alts). And while he's doing that I'm usually killing someone on the other screen, but my point remains that the VAST majority of my income is from killing people in low, high, and no sec alike. by the way, does it count as running missions if after ganking Mumbly Joe on his mission I usually finish it? So fair enough, there is a little spark of carebear in me, but it's pretty damn repressed. But enough about me, let's get back to the part about covering me in jelly And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ
Sunny Mooninite	Posted - 2007.05.14 17:09:00 - [53] Edited by: Sunny Mooninite on 14/05/2007 17:08:03 . --- Haha, you can't unread my post!
Maxpie Cross Roads	Posted - 2007.05.14 19:23:00 - [54] Originally by: hango See the main problem here is that shuttles don't tank very well. *Hango hides I seem to recall reading that somewhere else before... He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things.
n0thing Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.05.14 19:41:00 - [55] To OP, well, sad that you lsot an expensive item, but if you really wish to keep stuff safe you can easily invest in BC/Cruiser, fit it for max speed with rack of shield extenders and just fly fast thru low-sec if you need to. Stuff of great value like BPO`s and such you really need to move in BS even in hi-sec. Better safe then sorry. ---
Spillen	Posted - 2007.05.14 19:53:00 - [56] Originally by: n0thing To OP, well, sad that you lsot an expensive item, but if you really wish to keep stuff safe you can easily invest in BC/Cruiser, fit it for max speed with rack of shield extenders and just fly fast thru low-sec if you need to. Stuff of great value like BPO`s and such you really need to move in BS even in hi-sec. Better safe then sorry. I hope you're joking.
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:14:00 - [57] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: hango See the main problem here is that shuttles don't tank very well. *Hango hides So the real question is when are we getting t2 shuttles DE They're already available... though someone made a funny and named them after a god of war... z_Z
LudoO Gallente Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:25:00 - [58] yes, please, fly with more bigger more expensivly tanked ships! It's much safer! The next best thing after kicking ass is to talk about kicking ass.
Lowanaera Amarr Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.14 21:12:00 - [59] Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Originally by: T'Renn 1. You lock the target 2. You bait the line 3. You slowly spread the net and 4. You catch ze man. KMFDM FTW Actually, it's Front 242. ;) -Rauth Go hang your head in shame for thinking the awesomeness that is Front 242 was perpetuated by those hacks.
Trancendance Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.05.14 22:21:00 - [60] Hmmm i was told there was a shuttle tanking setup here but i don't see it
n0thing Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.05.14 23:00:00 - [61] Originally by: Spillen Originally by: n0thing To OP, well, sad that you lsot an expensive item, but if you really wish to keep stuff safe you can easily invest in BC/Cruiser, fit it for max speed with rack of shield extenders and just fly fast thru low-sec if you need to. Stuff of great value like BPO`s and such you really need to move in BS even in hi-sec. Better safe then sorry. I hope you're joking. Nope, if you say move some faction stuff to auction, Id better do it in a tanked BS. Alot of people would sacrifice their even 150mil ship for say like a billion worth item even if it can be destroyed in process. Moreover, fitting a quick travel setup for small ship thru low-sec is cheap and under 500k isk I would say, just some nanos and maybe wcs. Maybe Tech 1 shield extenders and such. ---
Zhaymus Hockhold DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2007.05.15 03:32:00 - [62] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: hango See the main problem here is that shuttles don't tank very well. *Hango hides So the real question is when are we getting t2 shuttles DE They're already available... though someone made a funny and named them after a god of war... z_Z I don't know T2 shuttles require Spaceship Command 4, it'll be a long train time.
Icome4u IronPig Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.05.15 04:22:00 - [63] ...so this person tries to warn other players... and you **s start talking ** about him b/c of that? To many kids play this game (or post on the forums tbh).
doctorstupid2 Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.15 09:49:00 - [64] Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 15/05/2007 09:48:26 I understand this shuttle tanking thing is a joke, ala templar fight drone, however I have in fact tanked high level complexes with a shuttle. I'm not kidding. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0702/shuttletanking.jpg You can see the wrecks of previous shuttle tanks that failed in the background
K'reemy G'udness Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.05 23:00:00 - [65] Originally by: Lowanaera Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Originally by: T'Renn 1. You lock the target 2. You bait the line 3. You slowly spread the net and 4. You catch ze man. KMFDM FTW Actually, it's Front 242. ;) -Rauth Go hang your head in shame for thinking the awesomeness that is Front 242 was perpetuated by those hacks. Ah crap, I'm an idiot. Haven't listned to that stuff since the early 90's tbh. Good song though. Sincerely, K'reemy ---
Lord Zoran Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.06.06 11:49:00 - [66] heard about this before but from what i've heard its becoming more and more common --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!!
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2007.06.06 14:37:00 - [67] Edited by: ry ry on 06/06/2007 14:36:28 i carry valuable items in a fully officer fitted faction BS. no pirates will want to attack that, right guys? ...right? ...why are you locking me? OP: carry valuable stuff in a shuttle by all means, but have a scout. surely a corpmate will be able to make time if it's something expensive?

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