Originally by: DRMALIKIA

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OOH where
OOH where
Has CCP gone
OOH where
OOH where
Could they be

This one time at CCP band camp I trained up Tactical Shield Manipulation to LVL 5, and it did not do what was advertised. Now my armor hurts and I have no soothing lube to put on it. PLEASE RESPOND!!

Maybe this is the route we should all go. Everyone in this thread posts once a day, everyday, until there is a response from the DEV monsters. Or we end up setting the EVE forum record for longest unanswered DEV post in the history of the forums. We all file a petition every time damage leaks through our shields @ LVL 5.

How do you get attention around here any other way? No offense CCP but, not responding seems to breed these types of threads vs. just responding and clearing things up. I mean, yeah we all could be smoking ***** here but, until you tell us we are, it just looks like powdered sugar to us.

Page six around the corner, here we goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

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Originally by: Ar Inziladun

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Edited by: Ar Inziladun on 25/07/2007 17:09:06

Originally by: dodgy242

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Originally by: DRMALIKIA

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OOH where
OOH where
Has CCP gone
OOH where
OOH where
Could they be

This one time at CCP band camp I trained up Tactical Shield Manipulation to LVL 5, and it did not do what was advertised. Now my armor hurts and I have no soothing lube to put on it. PLEASE RESPOND!!

Maybe this is the route we should all go. Everyone in this thread posts once a day, everyday, until there is a response from the DEV monsters. Or we end up setting the EVE forum record for longest unanswered DEV post in the history of the forums. We all file a petition every time damage leaks through our shields @ LVL 5.

How do you get attention around here any other way? No offense CCP but, not responding seems to breed these types of threads vs. just responding and clearing things up. I mean, yeah we all could be smoking ***** here but, until you tell us we are, it just looks like powdered sugar to us.

Page six around the corner, here we goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

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Indeed, and that's what we've been doing for a while now.

I'd still advise the people without a decent graphic sig to put the link to this thread in their sig.

Can anyone tell me how to make it linkable though?

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Yes, use the brackets [*url*]your thread here[*/url] remove the aseteriks*

Or, use the Reply to Topic screen, create some text you want to be displayed as the clickable link. Then highlight that text. Next select the "little globe with a paper clip icon" just above the smiley face with sunglasses. It will create a pop up box you can enter the threads http// address. Click ok. You should see some text appear in the message box. Copy that single line the paper clip globe creates, and then paste into your bio. It ends up looking like my signature below. Hope that helps you out.

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Originally by: Kwint Sommer

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Originally by: Rystin Timbal

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lol, you can't actually expect a dev reply here...

It would benifit Caldari! Argue the point so that it benifits Gallente and we'll get 6 BoB players and the Devs on here in seconds. No real offense intended, it just seems lately that Caldari are the nerf-bat punch bag.

The skill is broken at level 5, and takes a disproportionate amount of time to train just to use tech II hardners, which only give you a 5% bonus in themselves. But anyway, the title "Tactical Shield Manipulation" does imply it means you adjust your resistances or something more than just making sure the shield does what it's supposed to anyway...

Certainly level 5 needs to be fixed, and possibly the skill needs to be adjusted to help the shield tankers a little more, or just to make it more worthwhile to train. To be frank, a well known broken skill isn't expected from a game we pay to play.

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I'll restrain myself from tinfoil hattery becaues I want the devs to seriously consider the issues raised in this thread....That said, they really are taking their time.

It being broken at L5 isn't the biggest concern, it is the idea that it's screwing PvP shield tankers and frankly anyone in a situation in which their shields drop below 30% regardless of tank or intentions.

That extra 5% on T2 active hardeners is well worth the few days L4 takes.

Requiring L5 for capital shield tankers when their is no similar time sink for capital armor tanks is BS. I wouldn't be that bothered if the skill were helpful but it seems to be both broken at L5 which may be good if it's screwing people as I personally think it is....

This really isn't about boosting shield tanks, it's about a broken/harmful/unfair to require at L5 skill that we would like to hear from Devs about.

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Originally by: Rystin Timbal

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Edited by: Rystin Timbal on 26/07/2007 21:51:57

Originally by: Kwint Sommer

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It being broken at L5 isn't the biggest concern, (1)

That extra 5% on T2 active hardeners is well worth the few days L4 takes. (2)

This really isn't about boosting shield tanks, it's about a broken/harmful/unfair to require at L5 skill that we would like to hear from Devs about. (3)

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1: Disagree
2: Agree, easily. I was just trying to milk a moan :)
3: Agree, and this kinda contradicts you earlier statement.

Where the heck are the Dev's on this though? It's the longest thread in the forum and even has the request in the title...

(What's wrong with tin-foil hattery? It makes me happy...)

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Originally by: Cleveland Steam

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I wish people would read the arugment thoroughly before posting "it works for me!". If you have TSM trained to levels 1-4, then yes, it does work. But @ lvl 5 it does not.

Again to recap...

Tactical Shield Manipulation I -- Works as advertised


Tactical Shield Manipulation II -- Works as advertised

Tactical Shield Manipulation III -- Works as advertised

Tactical Shield Manipulation IV -- Works as advertised

Tactical Shield Manipulation V -- DOESNT work as advertised

Yes, I have it trained to 5 and it makes me a sad panda.

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Originally by: RedLion

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I'm training this to lvl 4 :S

Sad thing is that the "bonus" from this skill really isn't any "bonus" and this bugs me... Good to know it's bugged on lvl 5 so I can get it to lvl 5 and stat getting damage through my shield on lower shield levels again.

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Originally by: Malcanis

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A Dev saying "yeah I'll look in to it" and then nothing happening is pretty frustrating too

(I'm looking at you, Drones dev.)

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Originally by: Gone'Postal

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Edited by: Gone''Postal on 03/08/2007 10:16:29

Originally by: Drykor

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customer service my ***.

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Could not have said it better myself...

If I was going to the fanfest I'd take a megaphone, shove it into a devs ear and scream the name of this skill until we got an answer about there inability to fix this.


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Originally by: DRMALIKIA

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Edited by: DRMALIKIA on 06/08/2007 21:32:10
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Common CCP we are not asking for you to create perpetual motion here. We all simply want an answer to the questions listed. Poke your head in, let us know you care about us and our delema. By not responding, your not caring.

Why does Tactical Shield Manipulation Not work as advertised?

/|)O(

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Originally by: DRMALIKIA

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Please let's keep this on topic with Tactical Shield Manipulcation being fixed.

All really great points have been discussed, just frsutrating to be ignored.

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