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Nines Tslaruk
Minmatar North Face Force Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slice Edited by: Dr Slice on 15/05/2007 17:32:41 Edited by: Dr Slice on 15/05/2007 17:29:46
Originally by: Nines Tslaruk
Originally by: Dr Slice Edited by: Dr Slice on 15/05/2007 15:56:24
Originally by: Spillen rofl. Veto is sooo overrated in these forums. You guys that think they're the best pirate corp in eve (for any reason) are completely outa your minds and need to get out more.
Well, they do seem to be an over-rated Corp. I ask myself sometimes, besides a couple out of game player Guides, what has this Corp really done? What are their achievements? And I can't come up with anything.
Their leader has 1/12th the amount of kills of many Pirates that I have flown with, both historical and current. I just don't understand what the hype is about.
I guess Forum Whoring does in fact work to paint a picture that isn't true.
I stopped paying attention to them the day Verone tried to convince me that you can have a positive sec stat and still be a Pirate. Oh well.
You don't get a killmail for ransoms...
On topic: NFF, yes I am biased but we pirate for profit in 0.0 and low sec. Come to Low sec Forge and Geminate if you don't believe me.
Since when did NFF go Pirate? The only two things I remember about your Corp is anti-pirating back when I was in Pirate Coalition, and then becoming Privateers for Hi-Sec Wars.
Also, the "You don't get a killmail for ransoms" argument swings both ways. The guys I know with tons of kills would have even more if it weren't for ransoms.
And for those of you bashing October Snow and Ginger...well, show me a personal killboard of you having close to 9,000 kills ingame then I'll say you have the right to smack.
Edit: For clarification, thats 9,000 kills for only one player, not the Corp.
And Nines Tslaruk, congrats on the -1.3 sec stat lol. You be yaaarrrrin!! lolz
The difference is our view of piracy. I think Ange1 (or Rawthorm?) said it best, something along the lines of "What you guys do is what murderers, rapists, and pedophiles do, in killing for the killcount, whereas piracy is by definition killing for profit." I see what we do as closer to piracy than killing as many ships as possible, whether they be shuttles or bs. Killing targets in 0.0 or low sec, roaming mostly but gate camping when needed, for maximum profit, rather glueing yourself to a gate for hours on end to reach X number of kills, is piracy and what NFF has done since I joined. ------------------- NFF Recruitment
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=465085
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TheJacko
Gallente Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.16 22:54:00 -
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i say the movement but if i cant say them then its turby :P
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Kehmor
Caldari The Movement
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Posted - 2007.05.16 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: TheJacko i say the movement but if i cant say them then its turby :P
i say the opposite :P
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Dapanman1
Amarr Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.17 00:47:00 -
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Turbys chill, peeps need to stop whining about garret's thread, honestly. Maybe he wants to be a bug hunter or something, and obviously he did nothing wrong if CCP fixed it after they got the petition... |
LittleTerror
Caldari kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.05.17 01:12:00 -
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INFOD <3
Was great fun flying with them, never seen so many so called anti pirate warriors dock up so fast and run around screaming in horror its ZEE INFOD!! Always one it seems, the fat guy who did not listen, or is too slow gets caught 10km from jump/dock range and is executed |
Neon Genesis
The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.05.17 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slice Oh God, not again.
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Yuki Michi
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Posted - 2007.05.17 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Yuki Michi on 17/05/2007 11:37:38 I've not really seen many pirates, but a mate of mine got ransomed by Veto before. They kept their word and let him go after so as far as professionalism goes, they got to rank pretty high.
Only pirates i've seen have been during the one time I went into Gyerven or Gyerzen or whatever its called to buy something off the market. Saw one of those motherships ransoming a freighter infront of one of those mushroom shaped ships. Cant remember the name of the Nyx person, but I know the mushroom was BoB. I'd put my vote in for them if I could remember the name.
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Tommy Vercetti
Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.18 14:24:00 -
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Snigg. Their forum fu isn't as strong as others around here but they have the most class across the board.
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Anton Fireborn
Caldari Crimson Squall Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.19 05:10:00 -
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School of Hard Knocks, end of story.
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Drelaz
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.05.19 10:03:00 -
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I would say Turby if they weren't all about the gatecamping nowadays. I will go with the Movement for generally flying heavy ships in small gangs and having proper pilots.
Any corp that flies low risk does not deserve any best corp titel, be it flying in blobs, flying disposable ships or only going for the cheap ganks.
Originally by: Verone
Many of our members don't match sheer number of kills, but every one of them make up for it with the kit they can afford from hundreds in some cases thousands of sucessful ransoms where the... "customers" are released after payment.
Is that why half of you 20M+ SP members fly interceptors, t1 cruisers or when they feel ballsy t1 battlecruisers?
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Ank Myrandor
Amarr Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.19 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: LittleTerror INFOD <3
Was great fun flying with them, never seen so many so called anti pirate warriors dock up so fast and run around screaming in horror its ZEE INFOD!! Always one it seems, the fat guy who did not listen, or is too slow gets caught 10km from jump/dock range and is executed
Its ZEE INFOD !!
hahah that made me rofl
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Nikita Fontaine
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2007.05.19 12:02:00 -
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anyone that said snowy well...LOLZ... pay the credit where its due to corps such as SNIGG, they fight good (had several good 1 vs 1) and they stick by their word, a 1 vs 1 means a 1 vs 1 and 10 mill or pod means you pay 10 mill they WILL let you go. All i have seen in local from them has never been smacktalk only respect. ----------------------------------------------- Great minds think alike but fools seldom differ
Directors are like buttons they hold things together.
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Enjackah
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.19 16:12:00 -
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SNIGG circa 2005-early 2006
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Megadon
Caldari Deathshead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.19 23:28:00 -
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Clearly,
Deathshead
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Frankinator
Finite Horizon Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.20 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Belhorn Battlebeard
Originally by: Tomas Ysidro Turby?
ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL __
I used to love Arcane Frankologies cos they pwned me loads when I was a noob - wonder what happened to Frankinator?
I quit like 10 months ago :/
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.05.20 16:24:00 -
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Veto. Snigg deserve mentioning but Veto are, to me, the epitome of piracy. They don't just sit on gates and kill anything that comes through. Verone literally wrote the book on piracy (well, a guide for EON which I was very impressed with).
Someone mentioned SNOWY. They are a very vocal group, but they aren't good pirates. Ginger Magician is rubbish on his own, he uses his corpmates for cannon fodder and I think some of them are starting to figure that out. They do make a decent amount of isk camping the same gates every day, but they still have to pay for their own ship losses while I'm told Ginger Magician uses the corp isk from camping to replace his.
He's trying to buy a mothership with his corp's money right now and I don't know how his corpmates can stand seeing their hard-earned isk going to waste like that. A few nights ago, we took down Ginger Magician's Thanatos with a match patch gang of a dozen random noncapital ships while he was camping a gate. That makes 12 carriers he's lost now, and this time he even self-destructed to prevent us getting any loot or a killmail. Some day he will get that Nyx he's after and he'll be one of the few people who will manage to get one killed in lowsec. Not to mention the fact that large groups (including alliances) occasionally ACTIVELY hunt him because of his horrendous attitude and overinflated ego. He's a huge liability and has gotten his entire gang wiped out more than once while gatecamping, including capital ships.
After we killed his thanatos, he threw a wobbler and camped Thelan station in his moros, and has been doing so for the past few days. He did the exact same thing when we blew up his vindicator, he's just throwing a temper tantrum. The sad thing is that I know they make a lot of isk from camping the gates in Rancer and right now he's got his corp focused on this personal crusade against people in a backwater system so his whole corp are missing out on the income they normally get. He's even got them hauling in spare drones for his moros. At least the trade routes are safer now.
If I had one thing to say to all the SNOWY members, it would be this: Piracy is fine. Camping gates all day is fine. Smacktalking the hell out of people in local, even that is fine. But don't let yourself be subjugated by someone like Ginger. You're better than him and you'd be so much better off without him. There are other pirate corps, you can even start your own and split off as some previous members already have.
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.05.20 18:41:00 -
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A decent pirate corp is a corp that doesn't only hunt in blobs of 20+ ships.
I thought I had load's more things that make a pirate corp decent. But infact, everything comes back to the above ^
If you a pirate blobber corp. You arent necessarily the best corp. But do have the numbers, does this make you the best? No id say. Its quality not quantity. For the most part.
hats off to a few corps I know though. That are honourable. Decent and fun to fly with.
Not gonna "list'em" if I do they heads might swell like others around here.
My two pence
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:11:00 -
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There's only 1 Snowy and there's only 1 GM End of discussion
Snowy are recruiting.Join channel '0CTOBERSNOW' ingame (zero not letter) Buying a NYX-mail me inga |
valerydarcy
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2007.05.20 23:31:00 -
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this thread should be renamed "vote your corp as the best pirate corp", that would essentially cover the last 4 pages. |
ChessKiller
Minmatar System-Lords E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.05.21 00:54:00 -
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true very true
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Captain Hudson
Caldari Sabre Inc
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Posted - 2007.05.21 02:19:00 -
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Infod, movement and Turby
Originally by: SPQRMocton
We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
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Enjackah
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.05.21 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician There's only 1 Snowy and there's only 1 GM End of discussion
Oh god. *gag*
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Zhaymus Hockhold
DEATH'S LEGION Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician There's only 1 Snowy and there's only 1 GM End of discussion
There's also only one North Korea and only one Kim Jong Il, I fail to see your point.
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Centinel 6
Amarr The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2007.05.21 17:13:00 -
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I like to believe a good Pirate Corp, (with everything said) also, doesnt like to make too much noise. To draw too much attention can slow down your Net Gain. I could elaborate, but I wont.
Quote: A Dagger In The Night Is Worth A 1000 Swords At Dawn
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PostWithYourMain
Main Corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.21 17:25:00 -
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It's a really nice touch that you can't even type in the full name of the S******dly pirate corp. Very nice touch indeed.
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Horatio Nately
Caldari 808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.21 18:03:00 -
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I got respect for Veto because they play the RP side sometimes too :) ---------------------------------------
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Enjackah
Originally by: Ginger Magician There's only 1 Snowy and there's only 1 GM End of discussion
Oh god. *gag*
Ginger gags on his own ego. ----------------- OMG! SiGnAtUrE gO mEnTaLz |
Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician There's only 1 Snowy and there's only 1 GM End of discussion
I think that makes my point for me quite nicely.
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Danks
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.21 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Frankinator
I quit like 10 months ago :/
Come back Frank, you can pirate me all night long
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.21 20:17:00 -
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Nice to see our corp name mentioned here so many times, but Veto Corp has never really been about "being the best".
It's a corp where, for instance a father and son can play Eve together with huge success and no problems. A place where we all work together as more than a corp, more like an ingame family.
It's never about winning constantly. Everyone has bad days, and we take the rough with the smooth and pull eachother through tough times when they happen, learning from mistakes as we go. Veto Corp, for all it's members is about having fun, and getting together to play Eve as a collective.
Sure, in every corp there are those who don't fit in, and over time they're weeded out, but the core remains and that's what gives a corp, specifically a pirate corp it's strength.
There are some people who have been around longer, some people who have killed more, some people who have literally been here from Eve's birth, and have shaped the game mechanics by pushing the envelope with their actions.
Some might like to think they're the best, but the truth is there is no defenition of "The Best" in Eve. Each Corporation that exists excels in a field where someone else falls short. With piracy having such a broad scope of defenition, there really is no way to judge.
Names I'd say who are renouned pirate corps that come to mind from present to way back are Tundragon, Teddybears, Snigg, Jokers, Corp1, Infod, Finite Horizon, Frick (before they became a part of the Merc Scene) and of course m0o corp.
There's a long ass list of players I can think of, Shamis Orzoz, Drosssk, Schroni, Madcap Magician, Odet, Rasta Rocketman, Static Gal'Raith, Lyticus, Siddy, Fairlane, Lord Zap, Daakkon, Tank CEO, Tbone, Jexter, Fist, Liu Kakakakaka to name but a few.
There are those corporations, pirates, and alliances who are renouned for their work I guess, but with the constant Evolution of Eve and it's environment, there's never someone who's "The Best".
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