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![Hallvardr Hallvardr](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1723040374/portrait?size=64)
Hallvardr
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Posted - 2017.05.31 17:25:16 -
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Tessellation |
![Jenn aSide Jenn aSide](https://images.evetech.net/characters/241523665/portrait?size=64)
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
15962
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Posted - 2017.05.31 17:28:59 -
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Since we are on the topic, atmospheric flight anyone? |
![Nana Skalski Nana Skalski](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95441052/portrait?size=64)
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
34426
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Posted - 2017.05.31 17:47:04 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:
When you see when EVE was growing you can see it was all leading to Incarna.
This is not true at all. Incarna launched (and failed) in 2011. EVE's record number of people on at the same time at that point occurred on May 5, 2013 and in January 2014 the average was something like 40k characters on line. You were waiting for Incarna and I'm sure a few others want WiS too but the idea that the failure of WiS has anything to do with the general game is untrue. The numbers of characters on line AFTER CCP ditched the WiS idea and refocused on spaceships proves this. This was time when CCP promised to take care of EVE. But it only worked for a while.
Welcome in 2017.
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![Skorpynekomimi Skorpynekomimi](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90224942/portrait?size=64)
Skorpynekomimi
692
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Posted - 2017.05.31 17:47:33 -
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So, if Dust is dead, what am I meant to do with the orbital bombardment ammo blueprints?
Economic PVP
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![Nana Skalski Nana Skalski](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95441052/portrait?size=64)
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
34426
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Posted - 2017.05.31 17:50:14 -
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This is the game I play, this is the game I want to play, and this is the game I want CCP to develop further: EVE.
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![KaarBaak KaarBaak](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1624960886/portrait?size=64)
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
435
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Posted - 2017.05.31 17:53:18 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:
When you see when EVE was growing you can see it was all leading to Incarna.
This is not true at all. Incarna launched (and failed) in 2011. EVE's record number of people on at the same time at that point occurred on May 5, 2013 and in January 2014 the average was something like 40k characters on line. You were waiting for Incarna and I'm sure a few others want WiS too but the idea that the failure of WiS has anything to do with the general game is untrue. The numbers of characters on line AFTER CCP ditched the WiS idea and refocused on spaceships proves this. I'd argue this actually exactly on mark. With [the promise of] Incarna, Dust (and it's marketing promise of cross-platform play) and even atmospheric flight, came the highest sub numbers EvE Online has seen to date (as you say.)
Those were the peak days of podcasts and 3rd party app development. A lot of that meta-gaming has likewise declined.
Since those failures, and with no obvious backup plan the sub numbers began this long gradual decline. Since those failures you outlined, CCP has been rather rudderless. There doesn't seem to be any 'next big thing' for anyone to look forward to. There is no goal for EvE Online other than keeping the lights on.
But you're welcome to continue playing "Wallace Hartley" and be applauded for it.
KB
Dum Spiro Spero
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![Jenn aSide Jenn aSide](https://images.evetech.net/characters/241523665/portrait?size=64)
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners ChaosTheory.
15965
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Posted - 2017.05.31 18:04:09 -
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If you think then thing you are participating in voluntarily is doomed, why hang around? I wouldn't be the guy playing music on the Titanic, I'd be the guy jacking some fool for his lifeboat. |
![KaarBaak KaarBaak](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1624960886/portrait?size=64)
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
436
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Posted - 2017.05.31 18:07:57 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:If you think then thing you are participating in voluntarily is doomed, why hang around? I wouldn't be the guy playing music on the Titanic, I'd be the guy jacking some fool for his lifeboat. I'm raiding the bar.
Dum Spiro Spero
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![Baaldor Baaldor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/527593857/portrait?size=64)
Baaldor
dixon cox butte preservation society Solyaris Chtonium
463
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Posted - 2017.05.31 18:25:16 -
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How about the long list of "features" that removed the "dark, harsh" environment and dumbed down EvE.
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![Lulu Lunette Lulu Lunette](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95510136/portrait?size=64)
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
1667
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Posted - 2017.05.31 22:00:33 -
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Overall, what a depressing thread.
@lunettelulu7
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![Cypherous Cypherous](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1207773637/portrait?size=64)
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
243
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Posted - 2017.05.31 22:42:31 -
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Skorpynekomimi wrote:So, if Dust is dead, what am I meant to do with the orbital bombardment ammo blueprints?
Well you can give them to me, i like collecting things like that :P |
![Ebony Texas Ebony Texas](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93170841/portrait?size=64)
Ebony Texas
The Alabaster Albatross Sev3rance
11
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Posted - 2017.05.31 23:28:35 -
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Repulsior Module
** can be fitted on freighters and citadels***
some type of module that pushes targets away
keepstar/citadel tractor beam.that pulls ships into its umm..... tether??
where is the memo about the Observatory ARRAY... oh yeah fozzie you think I haven't forgotten how much you DODGE AFK CLOAKING issue which is now the longest standing broken mechanics in this game.. yeah.. sure ignore it like you want to..
system security status removal?
removal of local in null sec???
adding more employee's to ccp games in order to actually complete what they hype up to do faster..
ROAMING NPC TITANS in Null sec.... what about dat?? |
![Cien Banchiere Cien Banchiere](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91619990/portrait?size=64)
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
165
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Posted - 2017.06.01 03:55:25 -
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If they're AFK they can't kill you. |
![Keras Authion Keras Authion](https://images.evetech.net/characters/449673772/portrait?size=64)
Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
204
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Posted - 2017.06.01 07:32:23 -
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Did the new damage effects ever get done? They were mentioned in the fanfest 2012 or thereabouts.
Linky. Pictures from the FF stream.
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![Mark O'Helm Mark O'Helm](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94360749/portrait?size=64)
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
336
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Posted - 2017.06.01 08:24:25 -
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Keras Authion wrote:Did the new damage effects ever get done? They were mentioned in the fanfest 2012 or thereabouts. Linky. Pictures from the FF stream. Aren't they already implemented? I thought so.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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![Mark O'Helm Mark O'Helm](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94360749/portrait?size=64)
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
336
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Posted - 2017.06.01 08:31:41 -
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Cypherous wrote: And i assume you're referring to the 3 minute bump timer then i have no idea, it won't fix anything as you can just have an alpha alt come in a warp scramble the ship being bumped to force them to reset the timer anyway so i've no idea what the plan is with that feature, its unlikely to save ships from dying in this day and age
It would help, when you are stuck in structures or between asteroids too. But yes, it would prevent ransom bumping in highsec without a loss of a scramfrigate every 3 minutes. Bumpers would have to put more effort in to holding the target in place. And since i am more on the target side of this conflict, i would love to see it.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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![Arkoth 24 Arkoth 24](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94913569/portrait?size=64)
Arkoth 24
Phayder
380
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Posted - 2017.06.01 11:12:50 -
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Is it a new WiS thread i'm looking for?
Anyway, #OPENTHEDOOR
A new Dust would be fine too.
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![Mark O'Helm Mark O'Helm](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94360749/portrait?size=64)
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
337
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Posted - 2017.06.01 13:36:31 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:Is it a new WiS thread i'm looking for?
Anyway, #OPENTHEDOOR
A new Dust would be fine too. No. I don't care for WIS. I fly ships.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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![Nana Skalski Nana Skalski](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95441052/portrait?size=64)
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
34476
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Posted - 2017.06.01 15:04:32 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:Is it a new WiS thread i'm looking for?
Anyway, #OPENTHEDOOR
A new Dust would be fine too. No. I don't care for WIS. I fly ships. Yes, because nobody will take them away.
Just one less stupid VR game and we gucci.
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![DeMichael Crimson DeMichael Crimson](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2075069066/portrait?size=64)
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
62621
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Posted - 2017.06.01 15:13:27 -
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Yeah, there was a lot of stuff CCP promised and then failed to deliver.
Even though I'm not a miner I remember 'Ring Mining' which I think has now turned into 'Comet Mining'.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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![Arkoth 24 Arkoth 24](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94913569/portrait?size=64)
Arkoth 24
Phayder
385
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Posted - 2017.06.01 16:46:00 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:Is it a new WiS thread i'm looking for?
Anyway, #OPENTHEDOOR
A new Dust would be fine too. No. I don't care for WIS. I fly ships. Well, walking-in-ships is not so bad idea. I enjoyed it in Star Trek Online.
CCPlease?
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![Persephone Alleile Persephone Alleile](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92897344/portrait?size=64)
Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
410
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Posted - 2017.06.01 16:54:47 -
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like 90% of EVE is chatrooms in space, why not let us park our avatar at a bar stool and chat that way? |
![Seabhran Sihdrail Seabhran Sihdrail](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92780275/portrait?size=64)
Seabhran Sihdrail
Falcoes Peregrinos Pandemic Horde
3
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Posted - 2017.06.01 18:34:06 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:Mark O'Helm wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:Is it a new WiS thread i'm looking for?
Anyway, #OPENTHEDOOR
A new Dust would be fine too. No. I don't care for WIS. I fly ships. Well, walking-in-ships is not so bad idea. I enjoyed it in Star Trek Online. CCPlease?
Maybe some of the hardcore "im here for the ships" guys won't like it, but I would love to be able to walk inside ships.
Forget walking in stations. I want walk inside my ships and see how they look inside.
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![Seabhran Sihdrail Seabhran Sihdrail](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92780275/portrait?size=64)
Seabhran Sihdrail
Falcoes Peregrinos Pandemic Horde
3
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Posted - 2017.06.01 18:35:55 -
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Persephone Alleile wrote:Like 90% of EVE is chatrooms in space, why not let us park our avatar at a bar stool and chat that way?
Or maybe chat while you sit at the control room of your ship looking into space.
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![Mark O'Helm Mark O'Helm](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94360749/portrait?size=64)
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
339
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Posted - 2017.06.01 23:23:08 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:Mark O'Helm wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:Is it a new WiS thread i'm looking for?
Anyway, #OPENTHEDOOR
A new Dust would be fine too. No. I don't care for WIS. I fly ships. Well, walking-in-ships is not so bad idea. I enjoyed it in Star Trek Online. CCPlease? So, you want to leave your capsule, while it is linked to the ship to wander around in the ship? Who is flying it then? Or do you mean walking through a ship of a fellow pilot?
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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![Ebony Texas Ebony Texas](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93170841/portrait?size=64)
Ebony Texas
The Alabaster Albatross Sev3rance
11
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Posted - 2017.06.01 23:31:19 -
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war dec system rebalance... bounty system rebalance......
faction implants perhaps all implants will be 100% craftable --- <<< I think this is a WIP
WiC's.... that's walking in citadels not damn stations.. im sick of seeing my ship spin, I want to walk around and have others view my body!...
look at these heels!! fffs.... eve online of all things they've managed to do.. they couldn't come up with a way to have some silly little space cantina where all pilots can lounge around and socialize... this is without a doubt the biggest slap in the face.
I mean hey CCP proved they could do it via the DUST/Playstation HOME setup... but here?? its a hell no cause it takes "work".
and where in the living hell is that gate from that trailer "the prophecy"... you forgot all about that story...to ask ccp to deliver us a clean story from start to end is like asking ccp rise to begin shaving... its just not happening.![Oops](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_oops.png) |
![Arkoth 24 Arkoth 24](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94913569/portrait?size=64)
Arkoth 24
Phayder
387
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Posted - 2017.06.02 07:24:17 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:So, you want to leave your capsule, while it is linked to the ship to wander around in the ship? Who is flying it then? Or do you mean walking through a ship of a fellow pilot? It looks like some backup systems take control on the ship when capsule is ejected in space: life-support is still on-line and ship don't fall to pieces at least. I guess the same may happen if operator leave his capsule - ship may become motionless, but crew will be fine.
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![Xianax Xianax](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1574392693/portrait?size=64)
Xianax
Nordic Hawks
2
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Posted - 2017.06.02 08:29:06 -
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I really think they could have put the resources poured into Valkyrie into something more spectacular in Eve. VR is destined to fail anyways. It looks like complete dirt anyways. You get a better picture from 95% of TV's than what the VR screens look like. On top of that the expense for the hardware is prohibitive. I am not paying $400 for 10 year old screen quality. |
![Ebony Texas Ebony Texas](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93170841/portrait?size=64)
Ebony Texas
The Alabaster Albatross Sev3rance
13
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Posted - 2017.06.02 14:26:03 -
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Xianax wrote:I really think they could have put the resources poured into Valkyrie into something more spectacular in Eve. VR is destined to fail anyways. It looks like complete dirt anyways. You get a better picture from 95% of TV's than what the VR screens look like. On top of that the expense for the hardware is prohibitive. I am not paying $400 for 10 year old screen quality.
ever since the motion picture "the lawnmower man" everyone has dreamed up ways of making VR a total reality, its all just a huge work in progress type of technology as it advances more and more each day. the end result is consumers having to constantly upgrade to the next best hype.. you see this trend a lot these days in TV's.. 720p 1080p, and now we're at 4k.. with another high-end tv already on the way in the couple years.. VR is what it is.. a simple gimmick for quick cash grabs, it can only be counted a major success this time around pending on how long its supported.. and there lies the question, just how long will ccp support Valkerie?? will it end up like dust?? whats the shelf-life of the Ps4 since there's already a PS5 already in the works.. how long will these VR visor/headsets last until they expire due to being $400 toys.. this is the risk you pay vs reward.. the end blame goes to the idiot that decided to over invest in the gimmick in the 1st place.
remember 3D?? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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![Trixi Laminer Trixi Laminer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1651436730/portrait?size=64)
Trixi Laminer
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2017.06.02 15:01:15 -
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The integration between dust and eve and WiS, and and well the player built stargates, I thought they where going to arrive anytime but they haven't yet. Alot more citadel structures still to come. comet mining I speculate later turned into new moon mining mechanic. |
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