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Aaron	Posted - 2007.05.19 11:48:00 - [1] Hi Guys, For quite some time i've noticed that the eve startup screen always says downtime starts @ 11:00am GMT and ends @ 12:00pm GMT, Downtime acctually starts @ 12pm GMT and finishes 13pm GMT, I think the guys at CCP may have their hours mixed up, or I live in a dimension that is 1 hour behind GMT . Aaron
Velsharoon Gallente Endgame.	Posted - 2007.05.19 11:49:00 - [2] If you live in the uk your on BST which is one hour behind
UndergrounD Caldari Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks	Posted - 2007.05.19 11:49:00 - [3] You're on British summertime mate, not GMT -----------------------------------------------
William Hartas Caldari OcUK	Posted - 2007.05.19 11:50:00 - [4] Edited by: William Hartas on 19/05/2007 11:48:31 Originally by: Velsharoon If you live in the uk your on BST which is one hour behind One hour ahead :p Eve time = GMT. Current UK time = GMT+1 Therefore DT = 12:00-13:00 UK time or 11:00-12:00 GMT
Tiberius Ilex Caldari FireTech	Posted - 2007.05.19 11:59:00 - [5] It seems to me that you're in the UK which is on British Summer Time at the moment, that being GMT + 1. So 1300-1400 BST would be the same as 1200-1300 GMT.
Ralara Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.19 12:11:00 - [6] Originally by: Aaron Hi Guys, For quite some time i've noticed that the eve startup screen always says downtime starts @ 11:00am GMT and ends @ 12:00pm GMT, Downtime acctually starts @ 12pm GMT and finishes 13pm GMT, I think the guys at CCP may have their hours mixed up, or I live in a dimension that is 1 hour behind GMT . Aaron BST not GMT :D Real men CORPSE-TANK.
Estel Arador Minmatar AFK	Posted - 2007.05.19 12:32:00 - [7] I guess it's one of the inconveniences of having so many more dimensions than the ones we're used to =AFK=
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.19 18:29:00 - [8] Originally by: Estel Arador I guess it's one of the inconveniences of having so many more dimensions than the ones we're used to I think it's a sad commentary on the UK education system at the moment. We actually have people living here that know how to operate a computer but don't know what GMT is, have no idea what time zone they are in and quite possibly even don't know the current season. It'd be funny if I wasn't a tax payer -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] *This is not* a signature**
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.19 19:47:00 - [9] Originally by: Andrue Originally by: Estel Arador I guess it's one of the inconveniences of having so many more dimensions than the ones we're used to I think it's a sad commentary on the UK education system at the moment. We actually have people living here that know how to operate a computer but don't know what GMT is, have no idea what time zone they are in and quite possibly even don't know the current season. It'd be funny if I wasn't a tax payer QFT
Scetrov Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.19 21:17:00 - [10] Originally by: Andrue I think it's a sad commentary on the UK education system at the moment. We actually have people living here that know how to operate a computer but don't know what GMT is, have no idea what time zone they are in and quite possibly even don't know the current season. It'd be funny if I wasn't a tax payer Your not wrong :-( --
Aaron	Posted - 2007.05.20 02:58:00 - [11] Originally by: Andrue Originally by: Estel Arador I guess it's one of the inconveniences of having so many more dimensions than the ones we're used to I think it's a sad commentary on the UK education system at the moment. We actually have people living here that know how to operate a computer but don't know what GMT is, have no idea what time zone they are in and quite possibly even don't know the current season. It'd be funny if I wasn't a tax payer Ok then, explain to me why we have BST, does any other country have to set their clocks forward and backward an hour? If no why not?
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.20 03:03:00 - [12] Originally by: Aaron Originally by: Andrue Originally by: Estel Arador I guess it's one of the inconveniences of having so many more dimensions than the ones we're used to I think it's a sad commentary on the UK education system at the moment. We actually have people living here that know how to operate a computer but don't know what GMT is, have no idea what time zone they are in and quite possibly even don't know the current season. It'd be funny if I wasn't a tax payer Ok then, explain to me why we have BST, does any other country have to set their clocks forward and backward an hour? If no why not? Most do yes, most also measure time from Greenwich as we do and are +/- GMT as the measurement. Why? Because the planet orbits the sun, and it causes seasons. Ask why again and I will cry.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.05.20 03:47:00 - [13] Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 20/05/2007 03:04:23 Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 20/05/2007 03:03:53 Originally by: Aaron Originally by: Andrue Originally by: Estel Arador I guess it's one of the inconveniences of having so many more dimensions than the ones we're used to I think it's a sad commentary on the UK education system at the moment. We actually have people living here that know how to operate a computer but don't know what GMT is, have no idea what time zone they are in and quite possibly even don't know the current season. It'd be funny if I wasn't a tax payer Ok then, explain to me why we have BST, does any other country have to set their clocks forward and backward an hour? If no why not? Most do yes, most also measure time from Greenwich as we do and are +/- GMT as the measurement. Why? Because the planet orbits the sun, and it causes seasons, due to being different distances at different times of year. Ajusting our clocks helps us get the most dailylight waking hours. What do they teach these days. Agree to the last sentence. To elaborate. Most of Europe, the US, maybe Canada (who really knows ), Australia, NZ, and probably others. So a good percentage of the players in the game have Daylight Savings Time. To the OP: please tell me you're a teenager. Originally by: Troy Knight [After training Warp Drive Ops I] Still time I could have used training something else.
Summer River	Posted - 2007.05.20 04:15:00 - [14] Originally by: Aaron Originally by: Andrue Originally by: Estel Arador I guess it's one of the inconveniences of having so many more dimensions than the ones we're used to I think it's a sad commentary on the UK education system at the moment. We actually have people living here that know how to operate a computer but don't know what GMT is, have no idea what time zone they are in and quite possibly even don't know the current season. It'd be funny if I wasn't a tax payer Ok then, explain to me why we have BST, does any other country have to set their clocks forward and backward an hour? If no why not? You are joking right? Have you never heard of daylight saving? A large number of countries around the world move clocks one hour back at the beginning of spring so that daylight effectively extends to one hour later in the day and then put the clocks forward one hour at the end of summer. Where do you live? Under a rock?
Tellenta White-Noise	Posted - 2007.05.20 04:17:00 - [15] awww from the first few posts i thought we were about to have another "fighter drone" incident. sadly was not to be. yeah the daylight savings time is one of those odd things that was invented for some really good reasons... but actually doesnt work as advertised. The U.S. for some reason decided to do daylight savings time earlier this year. all that did for us was cause us to have cell phones that couldnt tell the proper time for a bit as far as i could tell.
Blind Man Kemono.	Posted - 2007.05.20 04:21:00 - [16] Originally by: F'nog Agree to the last sentence. To elaborate. Most of Europe, the US, maybe Canada (who really knows ), Australia, NZ, and probably others. So a good percentage of the players in the game have Daylight Savings Time. To the OP: please tell me you're a teenager. yes we have it in Canada and don't be hating on the teens
Ridley Tree The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2007.05.20 04:51:00 - [17] Edited by: Ridley Tree on 20/05/2007 04:48:40 Originally by: Aaron Ok then, explain to me why we have BST, does any other country have to set their clocks forward and backward an hour? If no why not? Please tell me you're thirteen or something. I mean I knew these concepts back when I was 10. Please, Go here and educate yourself ---- The Ridley Tree Productions Vault of Videos
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.05.20 04:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Blind Man Originally by: F'nog Agree to the last sentence. To elaborate. Most of Europe, the US, maybe Canada (who really knows ), Australia, NZ, and probably others. So a good percentage of the players in the game have Daylight Savings Time. To the OP: please tell me you're a teenager. yes we have it in Canada and don't be hating on the teens I'm not hating on teens, just perplexed. At least a young age would explain the lack of understanding of the issue. See the post between yours and mine. Originally by: Troy Knight [After training Warp Drive Ops I] Still time I could have used training something else.
ToranagaSama	Posted - 2007.05.20 11:22:00 - [19] Give the guy a break, teenager or adult. Of course everyone learns about this, but, at least here in America, the average person, whether in their working or non-working lives RARELY has to deal with people or things from another time zone. In America, for the greater part, its only on vacation that one moves from one time zone to another. Perhaps, in Europe one has more regularly dealings. GMT time? The average American wouldn't even be capable of telling you what the acronym stands for, let alone what it is. It's just not something one deals with in everyday life. Personally, I only deal with time zones for work, and only occaisionally: "What time is it there?" You figure it and forget it, just as immediately, until the next time. Then majorily domestically, as America has three time zones. GMT time, WTF is that?? ;) I've had a heck of a time keeping up with "Eve Time" (Iceland WhereTF is that?? ;) ). Now, oh, I've got to factor DST----Good Grief Charlie Brown!!!! WTF time is it???!!! ;)))))
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.20 11:26:00 - [20] Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 20/05/2007 03:04:23 Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 20/05/2007 03:03:53 Originally by: Aaron Originally by: Andrue Originally by: Estel Arador I guess it's one of the inconveniences of having so many more dimensions than the ones we're used to I think it's a sad commentary on the UK education system at the moment. We actually have people living here that know how to operate a computer but don't know what GMT is, have no idea what time zone they are in and quite possibly even don't know the current season. It'd be funny if I wasn't a tax payer Ok then, explain to me why we have BST, does any other country have to set their clocks forward and backward an hour? If no why not? Most do yes, most also measure time from Greenwich as we do and are +/- GMT as the measurement. Why? Because the planet orbits the sun, and it causes seasons, due to being different distances at different times of year. Not true, actually. The seasons change because of the Earth's axial tilt (around 23 degrees IIRC). As the Earth moves around the sun it means that the northern and sourthern lattitudes receive more sunlight. Right now, the northern hemisphere is tilted toward the sun and so it recieves more sunlight which warms it up. It also gives it more sunshine hours. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] *This is not* a signature**
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.20 11:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Blind Man Originally by: F'nog Agree to the last sentence. To elaborate. Most of Europe, the US, maybe Canada (who really knows ), Australia, NZ, and probably others. So a good percentage of the players in the game have Daylight Savings Time. To the OP: please tell me you're a teenager. yes we have it in Canada and don't be hating on the teens why not? I was one once I remember what it was like not to have back ache every day -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] *This is not* a signature**
Philip Stark	Posted - 2007.05.20 11:55:00 - [22] Sorry about your luck but America has 4 time zones in the main land, EST, CST, MST and PST. Then Alaska and Hawaii each have their own. Arizona stays in MST as they do not use DST. Indiana used to stay in EST and never changed but as of 2006 they now use DST.
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.05.20 12:47:00 - [23] 1100-1200 UTC time ( thats universal time hehe) forget the daylight savings rubbish.
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.20 12:51:00 - [24] Originally by: Callthetruth 1100-1200 UTC time ( thats universal time hehe) forget the daylight savings rubbish. QFT, DST would be pointless (no pun) in the constant night of space, anyways... ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
WhitePhantom Gallente Edenists	Posted - 2007.05.20 13:13:00 - [25] This thread is pointless.
Forsch Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.20 13:57:00 - [26] Originally by: Andrue Not true, actually. The seasons change because of the Earth's axial tilt (around 23 degrees IIRC). As the Earth moves around the sun it means that the northern and sourthern lattitudes receive more sunlight. Right now, the northern hemisphere is tilted toward the sun and so it recieves more sunlight which warms it up. It also gives it more sunshine hours. Correct. And in fact during the nothern summer (US, European, even English), the earth is further away from the sun. But it's warmer because the sun shines upon us from a bigger angle (90¦ being from straight above). That way it has to pass a shorter distance through the athmosphere. Forsch Defender of the empire
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.05.20 14:04:00 - [27] the lag it hurts its getting quite bad CCP is there any reason for it ?
Heksus	Posted - 2007.05.20 14:11:00 - [28] They tried DST here in the Philippines; it flopped. Whenever making appointments, people would be asking, "Is that Daylight Savings Time or real time?" Then people were always showing up an hour early or an hour late, depending on their confusion. Eventually people started announcing times as "3:00 DST, 2:00 regular time" or something similar.
NightF0x Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.20 14:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Philip Stark ...Indiana used to stay in EST and never changed but as of 2006 they now use DST. Can I knock our governor for passing this? i enjoyed laughing at those that had to change their clocks and now I'm one of them....boooo
Lakedaimon Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.20 14:58:00 - [30] Edited by: Lakedaimon on 20/05/2007 15:00:06 Quote: Of course everyone learns about this, but, at least here in America, the average person, whether in their working or non-working lives RARELY has to deal with people or things from another time zone. Uhh... your country actually has four different time zones (well, the main part does). Every time a movie time is announced it's something like "tonight at 9, 8 central". How can you possibly say that you rarely have to deal with this? Quote: Correct. And in fact during the nothern summer (US, European, even English), the earth is further away from the sun. But it's warmer because the sun shines upon us from a bigger angle (90¦ being from straight above). That way it has to pass a shorter distance through the athmosphere. Given that diffraction goes with the fourth power of the wavelength and that the infrared wavelengths are rather long compared to the ones of visible light I'm not sure that it's the amount of atmosphere the light is passing through that's causing this. Besides, heating up the atmosphere translates to warm weather...

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