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Kodiak31415
An Eye For An Eye
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.20 11:33:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
We had devs who were caught up in a scandal and its fallout for far to long. They still have not to the satisfaction of many addressed the issue appropriately. They spent almost an entire month of blogs attacking the whistleblower rather than punishing the guilty dev or providing game relevant blogs about game direction.
The lag has consistently gotten worse over the last 6 months. This lag is affecting the mission runners, plexers, and pvpers the most. Anything in which there seems to be considerable objects on the same grid seems to induce lag for many.
Bingo. I think that if I discovered eve today I would not play past the trial.
I came VERY close to cancelling my sub because of that. It's wasnt so much the fact that one of the devs was giving his friends free stuff, it was the way CCP handeled it. The 'were handling it internally so dont't talk about it on the forums' deal was a slap in the face of the community. My respect level for CCP droped waaayyyy down after that incident and the ensuing pr disaster (no other word for it). We have recived no offical appology and have heard nothing about it from CCP since. There are some things the community won't just forget about with time, and this is one.
Also, the lag both server wise and client wise is just stupid. The game engine is something like 4 years old and still taxes even the most powerful PC's, not to mention the black screens, modules failing to activate, jump qeues, market breakdowns, and the inability to lock anything if there are more than 200 people on grid. The "need for speed" seems more like "the Need for more dev blogs".
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Bozse
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.20 11:41:00 -
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Mehh nothing different from other years around this time.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE is designed to be a dark and harsh world
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V0rador
Amarr
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.20 11:55:00 -
[33]
Wait for E3 i guess ccp will release a new uber video
Revelation 2
And TQ will again beat a record of population i think.
Also whats coming after that seems to be even better , not worry about the population at all  .
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Radioactive Babe
Red Frost
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Posted - 2007.05.20 12:04:00 -
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I've played this game on and off for 3 and a bit years. It is nowhere close to the game that drew me in, I just dont feel the same buzz playing that I had in the past. Its not just me, there are several people who I know that started when EVE was new that have just set a long skill and said that they will be back SoonTM
Idiot whorums will say 'pvp more', the fact is that I did plenty of that and while it was fun in the past, with the current situation of blob's and lag you are more likely than not to click jump and wake in a station .... "wow, how much fun was that, what an antiblast." Couple that with mechanic bending tactics that CCP condones instead of actually fixing them just sickens people.
The fact is that there are a lot of decent MMO's out there and EVE is visibly getting worse while they are visibly getting better. I can play one of the newest of them on highest settings and it looks fantastic and there is little to no lag. Eve just lags, all the time and apparently everywhere.
So I'll set Command ships 5 on one account and BC 5 on the other and leave for several months.... yeh yeh, I will not let the door hit me on the ass, and my stuff will be in a can outside a newbie station  |
nickky01
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.20 14:06:00 -
[35]
was 75 degrees and sunny all day yesterday...supposed to be the same today...
the kind of weather where you have to be outside
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.05.20 14:07:00 -
[36]
it may be cold in some parts of the world atm leading to ppl being in doors ( chile, southern austrailia, new zealad, south africa etc)
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Garrack
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.05.20 14:55:00 -
[37]
Happens every year around this time.
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SirDregann IV
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.05.20 15:16:00 -
[38]
I know alot of people are away because of exams (So am i )
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.20 17:00:00 -
[39]
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.20 17:24:00 -
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People might be getting sick of the problems.
I cancelled an account myself, just didnt see the point in throwing more money at them.
Oh and those arent 30k players btw, probly more like 20k with alts, not counting the sweatshop farmers and Macros.
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Adaris
Dark and Light inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.20 17:31:00 -
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Right now there are 30+k people online, something that simply wan't there this time last year. It is clear more people are playing eve, BUT you do have a valid point. Because summer is coming up and people are going to have LOADS of time to play eve we are going to see more than that 30k online in my opinion, but its not summer yet. I think you are noticing the decline in number brought on by people sitting exams this time of the year, a tempory thing that will not bring the end of the world, let alone this game.
So enjoy the reduced lag while you can, once summer hits, its going to be wild with people, hot, and full of server shutdowns...
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari
High4Life
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.20 17:40:00 -
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As people complete the Excalibur training, they are taken by the aliens to be captains of their own ships.
A fairly reasonable looking android replica is left behind, but it doesn't have the urge to play eve at all, it just becomes a forum troll.
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Odda
Gallente
Eternity INC.
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Posted - 2007.05.20 17:43:00 -
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This happends evry year,
Its summer now, pepole stay outside and do stuff.
Also School is about to end so lots of End tests.
The winter is eve-prime time. Cold outside, worm inside :D
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.20 18:24:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Kramer Verone
What's going on, weekends used to have 28k players online at american prime time and now it has been lingering around 20k for several weeks.
Congratulations I can now say EVERY MMORG I have ever played has had this same
"The sky is falling Comment"
And I haven't noticed cause I don't count players on log in. All I care about is if my corp mates are online or not
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Baelor Stormborn
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Posted - 2007.05.20 19:06:00 -
[45]
Summer, Developer Corruption, Capital Ship Blobs, and Lag are probably the top four reasons for the decline in population currently.
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JADE DRAG0NESS
Bright New Dawn
Free Trade Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.20 20:21:00 -
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It probably has nothing whatsoever to do with EvE's perceieved developer conduct at all.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
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Treher
Minmatar
Infinity Enterprises
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.20 20:30:00 -
[47]
American college has ended.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.20 21:49:00 -
[48]
Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Matalino
This the may long weekend. Most of North America has a holiday on Monday so alot of people are out of town on vactions.
The US doesn't. I don't know about Canada or Mexico.
Mexico has internet service? Cripes, will wonders never cease? Guess they're stealing that with hardlines from Los Angeles through a tunnel into Tijuana...
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QwaarJet
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.20 22:08:00 -
[49]
It has nothing to do with summertime. People are leaving hand over fist. Most of the vets I know are leaving because they are sick of the game, and if I ahdn't invested so much time into EVE I would consider leaving also.
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Logan Feynman
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 10:52:00 -
[50]
We have absolutely no sane way of discerning the reasons for this drop in the PCU. WoW has "end subscription poll" if I'm not mistaken, so at least the company knows the apparent reason.
I would kindly ask the regular forum whiners not to use this as "proof" their problem of choice is making people leave. You whine the loudest, yet you are still here.
The period is too short to make a trend out of it. If and when it becomes a trend, CCP might make some moves to identify the reasons for the trend.
We should suspend our judgement until then.
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"Life is no way to treat an animal"
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Bosie
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:09:00 -
[51]
Quick we need to organize another big log-on Sunday, maybe we can break 5k players!
Oh...
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which means more to me than any other.
That word is ENGLAND." |
Skrewface
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:21:00 -
[52]
I think I read somewhere that the average life of an Eve player is 6-8 months(I could be wrong)
All the people who started playing the game because of Revelations are now at the end of their adventures.
and it is geting warmer.Warm Sun,cold beer and girls have a detrimental effect on Eve
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RaTTuS
BIG
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:21:00 -
[53]
Looks pretty fine to me
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:26:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Kramer Verone
What's going on, weekends used to have 28k players online at american prime time and now it has been lingering around 20k for several weeks.
mm it went well over 30s around march (breaks) and now schools ending so its lower for a while
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: SiJira on 21/05/2007 11:27:05
your thread has catalyzed the decision ive been mulling over all day today
i am going to do some newbie things today that with my better ship - knowledge might actually even pay off while i can act all newbish and carefree :)
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Gojyu
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:34:00 -
[56]
As a new player, take my opinions for nought, but here's my reactions to the game as a whole.
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There are probably a number of factors. EVE is aging as a game. That is one factor.
That's probably a major factor. Even if a new player is looking for a mmog to play, it's not so much that eve's old, it's that no-one talks about it. If it wasn't for a friend casually mentioning that he used to play, I'd never have even known eve existed
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EVE is not particularly new player friendly. It has hard for new players to break out in the game, and thus they decide quickly that since they can't make a difference they leave.
It's honestly not all that bad. It was fairly easy for me to get an overall feel of the game, and I know from the forums that end-game you're pretty much a cog in your alliance's war machine, but in all honesty, you're never going to make a difference in a mmog. What happens when BoB controls the known universe? people start slowly taking it back. Nothing is permanent
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We had devs who were caught up in a scandal and its fallout for far to long. They still have not to the satisfaction of many addressed the issue appropriately. They spent almost an entire month of blogs attacking the whistleblower rather than punishing the guilty dev or providing game relevant blogs about game direction.
You've hit the nail on the head there. The first thing I learnt about ccp is that they're a fairly shady company. A company who allows the purchase of in-game items for cash as long as they get a cut, frankly, can not be particularly moral. Also, if a new player researches eve, they'll certainly find out about that particular gm misadventure
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The lag has consistently gotten worse over the last 6 months. This lag is affecting the mission runners, plexers, and pvpers the most. Anything in which there seems to be considerable objects on the same grid seems to induce lag for many.
Actually, off topic, but how do you actually check your lag? I haven't been able to find a latency measure anywhere other than clicking in space and counting how long it takes to start turning
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It is difficult to say what the long term effects will be, because it is difficult to predict what the devs might do in the future. It is likely that at the time of the next major patch we will see a small increase again. However it is also possible that EVE has had its golden age and is now entering a period of decline as games of this type do. I suppose the devs can be happy that the decline is not swift as it was for SWG after SOE introduced the NGE.
Yep. An unfortunate fact is that mmog's more than any other game have a shelf-life. The fact that the developers have moved to full digital distribution is a major telling point. Eve is a declining game. It won't burn as fast as most others, given that it occupies a niche most other games of the genre aren't after (everyone's too busy designing the next WoW to design the next eve), but eventually, every mmog's servers shut down eventually
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Zantazar
Caldari
The Syndicate Inc
DeStInY.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:36:00 -
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It would really be a shame if for the reasons that some of you have posted, a downward trend develops. I also have played this game for 2/3 years, and I am an addict. The luxury of training whilst offline is a very important factor to me, especially lately as I have some health issues. I still retain my subscriptions, two accounts for me and two for my son, but I am not plating at the moment, just skill changes etc.
I am optimistic that CCP will address the important points that need "fixing". If a trend does become apparent, I am sure that they will.
At the time of the so called scandal, I was furious at the way that CCP handled it. But, water under bridges etc. I am prepared to put that into history, unless it recurs, then I will be gone.
I would sell my soul, my body, and my entire family for a Navy Raven. (Just kidding .... my soul is not for sale)
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:11:00 -
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lag is a big issue getting worse of late for no apparent reason
titans ( getting blown up from a i-win button) has probably shoveled a lot plus the fact wow the new game is out know a lot of peeps that vanish to go play wow
delay in factional warfare ( rev 3.0) rev 2.0 will be weak and later this year around winter u might see the game hit 40k real quick)
um other factors the older players getting bored with a lack of missions and a lack of exploration content ( 1 per 3 systems that is run within 40 minutes of downtime each day in empire) where 55% of the plaeyr base resides really was a bad idea ( CCP More varied but low reward ones throughout empire)
youre push into pushing players into 0.0 isnt working because of the large war going on ( tho that is probably taking a lot of PVPers out of empire as well)
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heheheh
Singularity.
The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolly
- very very boring alliance warfare (titans,ms AND POS)
- blobs everywhere
- lag
- cheating devs
- boring, repetitive pve content
- bugs not being fixed, that exist for more than 2 years (drones etc.)
- unbalanced ships, regions
- badly programmed client
- universe looks everywhere the same
Make Peopl leave the game.
cya
/wave
its just exam time atm also, there hasnt been a constant decline like some idiots are posting.
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Kramer Verone
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:32:00 -
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I don't believe in not saying something just because it might actually materialize. To much harm has been done with people remaining quite.
Talking about it might at least give "us" a chance to change the trend rather than "hope" it all gets better on its own.
Everyone has made valid points, but I can't accept the one where people play less because it's summer. I play MORE during my time off, even with going outside to enjoy the summer breeze, though I don't spend 18 hours out in the sun! That argument is ridiculous.
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