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Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.21 17:24:00 - [61] Originally by: Steven McWayne You can't win against cheaters in any game. /BD sits back with popcorn and waits for thread to explode ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Dashhammer II Amarr O RLY corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.21 17:26:00 - [62] lets keep it civil. The whole 'you're just a bunch of cheaters' thing is real old.
ispyozs	Posted - 2007.05.21 17:27:00 - [63] t20
larietta production management team	Posted - 2007.05.21 17:30:00 - [64] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Steven McWayne You can't win against cheaters in any game. /BD sits back with popcorn and waits for thread to explode /me grabs a hand full ov butter dogs popcorn
Angeles Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.05.21 17:43:00 - [65] what?
The Kola Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 18:10:00 - [66] "You can't win against cheaters in any game." wow thats just as embarrassing as the Janus interview itself. D2: There is a war? Last I saw outer space is always in a state of war.
Ferocious FeAr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.21 18:18:00 - [67] Originally by: Steven McWayne You can't win against cheaters in any game. Sore loser. Don't hate me, learn to love me
ispyozs	Posted - 2007.05.21 18:20:00 - [68] bob never cheat? t20 played fair? those t2 bpos where won fair? they never hack websites?
Evenfall Phoenix The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.21 18:23:00 - [69] Edited by: Evenfall Phoenix on 21/05/2007 18:23:23 Originally by: Kcel Chim uhm m8 you really see that this argument is stupid in the face of the universal war you declared on bob right ? Most of BoBs allies were on the coalitions "todo"-list anyways. Fix, Xelas, MC, Rise You might want to omit MC there. They are a merc coalition remember, that means neutral to any and every war, their only job is to fight for their client.... well that was it until about 30 days into the "war." To be honest MC is the main reason the north is having issues. They have tons of experience, are amazing pilots, great logistics. The problem is, and you can even see it from Seleen's post, is that they zerg capitals. And right now the only alliance that might be able to match the capital might of MC is RA.... and I have no clue what RA is doing right now (no jokes about plexing, I mean in terms of the war). When Goons and everyone else try to make up for lack of capitals by numbers (valid tactic) we find out we can't, because it causes too sever lag (no tin-foil hattery here either) the one tactic that could work is taken away (for valid reasons). I know plenty of people right now that are working on the skills to get capitals, but it's a ways off, and until a good number of them are set it'll be hard to match MC's power. If MC had been in the war with LV it wouldn'tve ended so fast. Their capitals would have matched RA and the Goons, well the Goons would still do what they do best, swarm up. RISE puts up a great fight, they definitly know what they are doing. Fix did what they could, but the fact that Fix didn't lose their space isn't so much attributed to "BoB would always come and support us and therefore we would win," after all BoB came and supported Gun (with Fix) and they lost quite a bit. It should be more attributed to the Coalition (from my perspective) not really wanting to take Fix space (I mean who wants to take Dark Shikari's space, everyone loves DS ) kidding aside that's mostly why the Gun system went back into BoB's hands. I'm not even going to talk about Xelas, I have very little respect for them, they are probable the only BoB alliance that I don't respect. But hey, everyone has a right to their own views. D2 is fighting, as is MM and other northern alliances. I haven't really heard much from the south, aside from BoB fighting Goons in 9-9 (it was 9-9 right?). Edit: Gah the quote thing screwed up on me. Oh and Chrony fix you signerature. Your grammar mistakes are absolutly horrible... unless that was your intent... of course then you wouldn't be like the other BoB sigs where at least their spelling is professional.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 18:23:00 - [70] /me yawns I see nothing wrong with that interview tbh. It's not an exit strategy, D2 has had a different exit strategy from the beginning. [center] Old blog

Maltroc Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.05.21 18:58:00 - [71] Your all funny ! You play a game .Right ? Dont think so if i read this ---
Invidious Malinigvious Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 18:59:00 - [72] I hope after the rest of the 'north' is ruined the good corps will form a powerful alliance, learn from their mistakes and provide us a real challege this time. I doubt it will happen but I can hope can't I.
Maltroc Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.05.21 19:02:00 - [73] Dream on BoB is to powerfull. Nobody want to play with you You won EvE. ---
ishkabibble Gallente AJAX Puppy Grinding Company	Posted - 2007.05.21 19:26:00 - [74] Edited by: ishkabibble on 21/05/2007 19:27:13 Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix Rabble Rabble RISE puts up a great fight, they definitly know what they are doing. Fix did what they could, but the fact that Fix didn't lose their space isn't so much attributed to "BoB would always come and support us and therefore we would win," after all BoB came and supported Gun (with Fix) and they lost quite a bit. It should be more attributed to the Coalition (from my perspective) not really wanting to take Fix space (I mean who wants to take Dark Shikari's space, everyone loves DS ) kidding aside that's mostly why the Gun system went back into BoB's hands. I'm not even going to talk about Xelas, I have very little respect for them, they are probable the only BoB alliance that I don't respect. But hey, everyone has a right to their own views. O RLY??? Northern Coalition Mission Objective from December: 1) Wear down FIX and Xelas, deplete them of resources 2) Kick FIX out of Querious and Xelas out of Fountain by outblobbing them 3) Control Fountain and Querious as beachhead's for a forward assault on Delve Mission Objective: Failure Sorry dude your arguement holds no water, and please stop backpeddling on what your objectives were from the beginning Edit: Cause im iletirate You can't fix "Stupid" - Comedian Ron White
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 19:30:00 - [75] Edited by: Blacklight on 21/05/2007 19:28:45 Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: Buxaroo But tbh, I didn't expect the north to fold up so quickly. From what I have heard only FLA have put up a fight and they didn't seem to get much support from their "allies" D2. D2 have proved to be the biggest paper tiger that has ever been seen in New Eden. Yeah we are weak remember ... thats why we have 100 hostile capitals and super capitals up here, and guess what, none of those is from BOB ... "Bring it" you said so many times times months ago... well we went down there. But the supposed standings reset, the "BOB vs everyone" transformed in NAP everyone to kill the "northern carebears"... well for carebears we are giving your friends a hell of a fight trust me. If you dont believe me ask MC or your friends, because they know what I'm talking about. You dont. It's ok to admit that you got outmanouvered politically as well as strategically and tactically you know, in fact you might find it quite cathartic. I spent an hour or so going through a lot of the old threads from the start of the war lastnight doing some research for a new blog entry and the change in the tone and content of the messages coming out of the coalition then compared to now is amusing to say the least. The fact that you lot wouldn't bring it until we hung our arses out by announcing we'd take on RA/Goons/TCF/KOS/UNL/assorted other south eastern alliances but are now whining about being ganged up on speaks volumes. The fact that you were all so excited about your grand crusade, 'Fountain Terror Campaign', 'see you in NOL soon' propaganda and surprise sex train - yet now talk about survival and fighting hard against the odds speaks volumes. The fact that you all belittled so much the very 'pets', 'slaves' and 'unworthies' who are now taking your stations speaks volumes. We were running the numbers from the start of this war again today just out of curiosity and it came to about 27,000 vs 13,000 accounts at it's peak (mid-March) in your favour. The fact that the numbers are beginning to swing to our favour now (although they still have a long way to go) is entirely because of the coalition leadership's collective incompetence at fighting a war on this scale. You're the ones who have hung your allies out to dry and allowed us to pick them off one at a time, you're the ones who have been so uncoordinated that people such as TRI got off the train at the next station frustrated with it's lack of progress and you're the ones who failed to develop and implement a strategy to get us onto the back foot and keep us there. Considering some of the chestbeating coming out of the north about how strong they were before the war your collapse as a coordinated coalition and your own alliance being proved to be the single largest paper tiger in Eve's political history is both extremely ironic and superbly entertaining. You'll go down bitter and whining though rather than standing up and saying "we got outplayed, well done", as most alliances do when they perish - except FLA, who I have to say exited rather gracefully and earnt themselves a lot of respect. When you are sat in Torrinos making up more excuses, blaming everyone but yourselves and making bitter plans for revenge... just remember, you had a two to one numbers advantage and blew it because of your own incompetence. So you can play the "omg you NAP'd as many people as we did" card until you are blue in the face DeadDuck, the arguement was nonsense, is nonsense now and will still be nonsense when you're back in empire wondering where your alliance went. Edit: On topic, there will be no peace, some people have a large slice of their own hubris to be rammed down their throats before we are done. Blog
Pesadel0 Ordem dos Templarios	Posted - 2007.05.21 19:33:00 - [76] Comedy gold ,i laugh hard reading the answers ,janus is now my personal hero. I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.21 19:37:00 - [77] God I love it when Blacklight posts sober. <3 Buddy Blog at: The Jammy Blog
Evelgrivion Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.21 19:51:00 - [78] Originally by: Blacklight Stuff Blacklight won this thread. This isn't the signature you're looking for.
Galavet Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 19:53:00 - [79] Originally by: Grimster God I love it when Blacklight posts sober. <3 Buddy His recent mining duties have left him with nothing but time to prepare such wonderful post. o/ Grim! Nice sig btw. Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
larietta production management team	Posted - 2007.05.21 19:56:00 - [80] Originally by: Grimster God I love it when Blacklight posts sober. <3 Buddy blacklight wins the i posted to this topic sober

Herculite Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 20:22:00 - [81] Originally by: Grimster God I love it when Blacklight posts sober. <3 Buddy But hes a lot more fun when hes drunk
Aro Tolan	Posted - 2007.05.21 20:29:00 - [82] Originally by: Invidious Malinigvious I hope after the rest of the 'north' is ruined the good corps will form a powerful alliance, learn from their mistakes and provide us a real challege this time. I doubt it will happen but I can hope can't I. So if people don't provide you with a challenge what will you do? =P ------
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.21 20:29:00 - [83] Heh, Blacklights post is quite special. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Crux Australis Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 20:34:00 - [84] Originally by: Aro Tolan Originally by: Invidious Malinigvious I hope after the rest of the 'north' is ruined the good corps will form a powerful alliance, learn from their mistakes and provide us a real challege this time. I doubt it will happen but I can hope can't I. So if people don't provide you with a challenge what will you do? =P POTBS has been reported to be a sucky game so I really dunno... Originally by: Tuxford Sure play gallente and caldari if you like, just don't be upset when I waste your ass in a hurricane.
Ria Sotori Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 20:36:00 - [85] Bah, I had this super all encompassiong response post ready to go and Blacklight had to wake up sober for once Instead all I can do is quote Starship Troopers..... "This one is for the species boys and girls." Just remember when your down in empire mission running for a living the braggarts and idiots you let loose on the forums proclaiming the death of all things Bob and any who would dare stand with them against your Morality Coalition. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
The Beatnuts Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.05.21 20:37:00 - [86] Originally by: Butter Dog Heh, Blacklights post is quite special. Tbh I don't even know where he finds the courage/stupidity to still answer that bullcrap. /omee
Evenfall Phoenix The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.21 20:45:00 - [87] Edited by: Evenfall Phoenix on 21/05/2007 20:45:18 Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 21/05/2007 19:28:45 The fact that you were all so excited about your grand crusade, 'Fountain Terror Campaign', 'see you in NOL soon' propaganda and surprise sex train - yet now talk about survival and fighting hard against the odds speaks volumes. The fact that you all belittled so much the very 'pets', 'slaves' and 'unworthies' who are now taking your stations speaks volumes. #1 and how many times does this come up. The train was always in reference to Goonswarm. They came up with it. The North might have taken part in train excersizes (wow that sounds dirty) but it was all Goons. Some people in the north may have played along with it, but everyone can agree each side has had it's bandwagoners. #2 The majority of work being done by your side in the north is done by MC. Don't fool yourselves to think otherwise. MC provides the cap ships, the logistics, and the experience, the other alliances provide some support ships, I'm not belittling them, support is always needed. But I think MC would be doing the same job just as fast without all those alliances. MC uproots wherever they go, and you guys sit on your high thrones and deposit friendly alliances. I have much respect for MC, they are an amazing group of people and they do their job well, it's a shame they aren't really a merc corp anymore persay, plus they'd probably get more fights if they were aimed at BoB, but that's all arbitrary. #3 Yes I know, the coalition does it too, lets lump everyone together and because one person says one thing that person must then be the voice for all, but for you to go on and say all the coalition has done is whine shows utter ignorance. These forums are full of bs, and people that love to spew it. Hell you BoB guys nearly take the cake in terms of arrogance and self-righteousness when it comes to forum presence, yet I know there are many in your alliance that aren't the same way as you self-glorified offenders. There are those of use that when we fight we put our hearts into it, and that goes universally regardless of what side you are on, so for you or anyone else to lump those people in with the whiners is a disservice to everyone else. #4 Lets not forget all the cheastbeating LV did on the forums, and how fast they fell. For you to say the cheastbeating + loosing has all come from one side also shows an ignorance on your part. #5 Personal Opinion, you're right (look, I'm agreeing with a BoB something must be wrong right? ) I would have liked to see much more cohesivness from the north. Yes there was some, but not to the level their needed to be. Not saying it's over, things can change very fast. #6 Yeah we might have an advantage in terms of raw numbers... however you fail to calculate how many of those numbers are actually PvPers, how many of them are online just running logistics, how many of them log on just to chat with corp mates, the list goes on. It might seem very arbitrary to argue, because it goes both ways, but playing the numbers game with so little information is a fools way to think. This is not a whine post, so don't even attempt to try that crap. I'd hate to think of the day when a simple arguement can't be had without the cries of "whiner" .... oh wait.... this is CAOD. In short, generalization is bad mmk?
The Beatnuts Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.05.21 21:07:00 - [88] Does BOB/AAA exploits (im saying bob/aaa because all my alts are only in those two sucky alliances) answer is : OF COURSE NOT /omee
Manfred Sideous 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.21 21:21:00 - [89] WOW Blacklight WOW ...History Making Post there!! To all involved despite all the propaganda despite all the he said she said rabble rable in each and every one of you lies the truth of this situation. Ignore it twist it or whatever you need to do to make yourself feel better the truth still remains. So far everyone that has been against BOB so far has got served. Bonus Advice = The turth will set you free! ___________________________
Indiano Arko Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.05.21 21:33:00 - [90] Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix #2 The majority of work being done by your side in the north is done by MC. Don't fool yourselves to think otherwise. MC provides the cap ships, the logistics, and the experience, the other alliances provide some support ships, I'm not belittling them, support is always needed. This is exactly explains main Coalition problem in this war: you guys only think about yourself as separate entities. You do not work as a unit. It's the main reason why you are getting steamrolled by the Alliance in the North. In your body what is more important - your brain or your heart? Let's say your legs aint important at all because without your brain they wouldn't be able to do a damn thing. Do you see my point?



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