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Dashhammer II Amarr O RLY corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:22:00 - [1] Okay, I have to comment on the recent Q&A with Janus Drake. In case you haven't read it, it is front page news today from Mucra Vita. Let me repost it here for anyone that hasn't read it. Or at least... the sections I have a problem with... -------- Janus Drake is a high ranking official within the X-Trading Company, one of the founding corporations of Dusk and Dawn. Dusk and Dawn (D2) is a large alliance based out of Branch and situated within the northern regions. D2 is known for their extensive diplomatic and industrial tactics, as well as being fierce fighters for their claimed space. Recently, great events have occurred surrounding D2 as their alliance numbers have varied and wars have sprung up. IC: What was the outcome of your assault into BoB space? D2: If you're talking of our trip to the Serpentis Fountain Regions, it was the exploration of this territory, further education for our pilots, and the most important part, the entertainment of our alliance population. IC: How does the loss of 3 corporations and a titan affect your ability to fight in this war? D2: There is a war? Last I saw outer space is always in a state of war. IC: I was referring to the War between the Coalition and the Alliance D2: I donÆt think there is a coalition or an alliance if you prefer to call it so; I would see it more as movement of different interest of different groups. Some fight for glory, some for their entertainment, others fight for their masters. -------- What the heck? Since new years we've all been at each others throats both in the forums and in space and now that the tide has turned, D2's answer is 'It never happened'? Was the five month war just a figment of the imagination of a little autistic boy staring into a snow globe? Was D2's titan lost on a lark? Just some big fourth of july celebration that southerners took for war? Instead of pretending that the coalition never existed and that D2 was never at war with BOB. Perhaps it would be a better option to instead, try thier hands at diplomacy. Are the days of diplomacy long dead? Now we just rewrite history and try to convince everyone that "We all wanted to live in empire. I don't know what this war thing is that you speak of." Has it occured to anyone in the coalition that a truce can be struck? Now people may read this and assume that I am some how ragging on D2 for their choice of exit strategies. I'm not. Please believe that I am not. I have in the past issued challenges to D2 to explain their intentions and reasoning for the war. D2 declined to explain themselves and commented through several hundred forum posters that 'War is fun'. Whether or not this was the consensus- I would like to follow up these challenges by asking D2 to finally ressurect the diplomatic process with bob. There was a time (though few remember it) when G alliance and BOB were on semi-good terms with each other and although many pleaded with G to talk things out instead of continuing the violence, they declined. Well let me just say that I do not represent BOB and I do not represent the southern alliance. I don't even represent ISS. But I'm asking D2 to abandon their present course and contact BOB on an official level to talk about the possibility of a cease fire. They'll probably be suspicious. But at least it's a start. I strive to have the largest rating on our billboards, but do not for a moment believe that I take pride in that. Lets end the violence. End the madness.
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:25:00 - [2] Denial has now been upgraded to an entire region, we have no time for rivers in this day and age.
snaike The Scope	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:26:00 - [3] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Cryin' Won't Help You, Prayin' Will Do You No Good
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:31:00 - [4] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 21/05/2007 13:31:26 Originally by: snaike snip /Edited. No point responding to n00balt -- Billion Isk Mission
LeviUK hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:32:00 - [5] I don't speak for D2 nor do I even speak for MM but if there are as many people in D2 who have the same feelings towards BoB and allies as there are in MM, then peace talks with BoB would be a far quicker death than any war.
Chrony Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:34:00 - [6] Originally by: Dashhammer II There was a time (though few remember it) when G alliance and BOB were on semi-good terms with each other and although many pleaded with G to talk things out instead of continuing the violence, they declined. Well let me just say that I do not represent BOB and I do not represent the southern alliance. I don't even represent ISS. But I'm asking D2 to abandon their present course and contact BOB on an official level to talk about the possibility of a cease fire. Its true that there was a time that we were on semi-good terms, but that consisted of telling each other how much fun a battle was or things like that. Although I'm not someone who can make a dicision like, I've almost been there since the start of the conflict between CE/G, and I can tell you that a cease fire between us is not going to happen. NEVER.
Faithless F Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:35:00 - [7] O RLY
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:38:00 - [8] Looks like some northern alliances have enough and try to get out of this now, before they lose everything. Sounds similar to sparta's announcement.
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:45:00 - [9] Dear OP Why do YOU want to stop the war? Its FUN for crying out loud! BOB take the right, pets and meathields take the left and everyone meet in the middle in ...hmm half a year from now or so(or longer if the enemy keeps fighting hard). There, now everyone profits! The PVP'ers get their pew-pew the industrialists get their fat wallet and everyone is happy! Peace in EVE is overrated. p.s with everybody complaining about the supercapitals you should be happy that less are being built due to the death of cap-yards everywhere.
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:47:00 - [10] Originally by: LeviUK I don't speak for D2 nor do I even speak for MM but if there are as many people in D2 who have the same feelings towards BoB and allies as there are in MM, then peace talks with BoB would be a far quicker death than any war. I remember when I was with SGHQ and allied with VC and I remembered KOTHFluf saying that if anyone could beat BoB, it was D2. Turns out that prediction was way off the mark But tbh, I didn't expect the north to fold up so quickly. From what I have heard only FLA have put up a fight and they didn't seem to get much support from their "allies" D2. D2 have proved to be the biggest paper tiger that has ever been seen in New Eden. "No matter where you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai

HordeZla Domination.	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:49:00 - [11] D2would never admit that they are getting spanked by smaller forces. They have allways been the people to blame someone else for there inabilitys, Just got kill a few capitals and watch there KB go all private for a week or so. hurry up MC and co so we can place them in the back of our minds along with ASCN.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:49:00 - [12] Edited by: Fred0 on 21/05/2007 13:48:27 Have a look at the questions. They are a joke and very stacked. So Janus just said **** it I'm not gonna take this seriously. We got as much as we could from that one imho. I would have just told the reporter to log his main tbfh Oh and peace. Just forget it. Won't happen.
hinch Gallente Furious Angels Requiem-Aeternam	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:56:00 - [13] as i've said before and will do doubt say again THIS IS D2 Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores
Crovan Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.21 13:57:00 - [14] You can ask 0ozo0 what we're saying on our forums about it. Oh wait...D2 don't spy... Also, there is no war, no "Fountain Terror Campaign" and no MC in Branch. Originally by: Major Stormer Quote: What should the MC do? Make things explode.
Dashhammer II Amarr O RLY corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:32:00 - [15] Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: LeviUK I don't speak for D2 nor do I even speak for MM but if there are as many people in D2 who have the same feelings towards BoB and allies as there are in MM, then peace talks with BoB would be a far quicker death than any war. I remember when I was with SGHQ and allied with VC and I remembered KOTHFluf saying that if anyone could beat BoB, it was D2. Turns out that prediction was way off the mark But tbh, I didn't expect the north to fold up so quickly. From what I have heard only FLA have put up a fight and they didn't seem to get much support from their "allies" D2. D2 have proved to be the biggest paper tiger that has ever been seen in New Eden. I know that we've all been at this so long that we can not envision a world with out the north and the south attacking each other. But peace... I believe is possible. It won't happen however with out a lot of hard work from the D2 higher ups. I am confident that they have channels of communication they can employ to make contact with BOB high command and ask for a 'peace roadmap' It would take sacrifice on D2's part and it would take leaps of faith on BOB's part. But this is not something that has to happen over night. I'm not saying that we should just scream truce and wander back home. I'm saying that in a year I don't want to have to drop what I am doing, run down to delve and fight D2- YET AGAIN. Now there are a lot of angry people out there that will say 'This will be the last time because we're going to wipe d2 out.' Thats fair. I can understand why they feel that way. But D2 doesn't have to go down that road. They can AND SHOULD begin talks with BOB. They should do it NOW before there is no longer anything to talk about.
IntegralHellsing Gallente The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:33:00 - [16] hmmm I do hear some hard spanking going on up North. Those scawy uncle bob and co doing something naughty to D2. the sound... makes me... HARD! --------------------------------------
Draconiss Gallente AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:37:00 - [17] well that interview confused a lot of peeps up here in dek but hey its par for the corse...there has been lots of weirdness of late ..
3xcit3 The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Buxaroo But tbh, I didn't expect the north to fold up so quickly. From what I have heard only FLA have put up a fight and they didn't seem to get much support from their "allies" D2. D2 have proved to be the biggest paper tiger that has ever been seen in New Eden. dont talk about things you dont have any idea of.. no fights? i think we gave mc some of the greatest battles they ever fought! watch our killboard..
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:39:00 - [19] Originally by: HordeZla along with ASCN. leave ascn out off this pls. Don't be a great man just be a man
Murphy Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:41:00 - [20] Originally by: 3xcit3 dont talk about things you dont have any idea of.. no fights? i think we gave mc some of the greatest battles they ever fought! watch our killboard.. Kind of hard to when every battle you lock it down so nobody can view how bad you got spanked.

Karmic Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:43:00 - [21] Originally by: Crovan You can ask 0ozo0 what we're saying on our forums about it. Oh wait...D2 don't spy... Also, there is no war, no "Fountain Terror Campaign" and no MC in Branch. they prob got that info from Frod0 and his copy of ie7 nano/istab edition - - - - - - - - -
IntegralHellsing Gallente The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:45:00 - [22] Originally by: killerco Originally by: HordeZla along with ASCN. leave ascn out off this pls. touche! Originally by: Karmic Originally by: Crovan You can ask 0ozo0 what we're saying on our forums about it. Oh wait...D2 don't spy... Also, there is no war, no "Fountain Terror Campaign" and no MC in Branch. they prob got that info from Frod0 and his copy of ie7 nano/istab edition mmmm IE7 Nano/IStab edition. --------------------------------------
Arenis Xemdal Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:46:00 - [23] Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 21/05/2007 13:48:27 Have a look at the questions. They are a joke and very stacked. So Janus just said **** it I'm not gonna take this seriously. We got as much as we could from that one imho. I would have just told the reporter to log his main tbfh Oh and peace. Just forget it. Won't happen. What fails even more than Janus Drake's horrible attempt at spin and evasion, is that you both think you were somehow dealt a bad hand by ISD. You have to wonder what goes through someones head when they agree to an interview, not expecting to answer the hard questions that are on everyone's mind. This has major exposure, and an opportunity to polish D2's image was right there and waiting.
Cythrawl Caldari Central Defiance Terror In The System	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:49:00 - [24] Originally by: Dashhammer II D2: There is a war? Last I saw outer space is always in a state of war Epic. Absolutely Epic. I would like to thank Janus on behalf of [DEFY] for costing us our first ship loss to a titan. Congratulations. I still don't know what the H-E-double hockey sticks made it important to use a titan to pop a small group of people who just had blown up a D2 freighter, but if that's the new 'trap' the northern coalition is using, my mind is completely unable to fathom your tactics. Good show sir, good show. Absolutely Epic. Cythrawl, [DEFY] Director, Kicker of Puppies, and Despoiler of all that is Holy =+=+=+=+=+=+= Originally by: Black Torment OH GOD, DROWNING IN TINFOIL
DeadProphet Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 14:54:00 - [25] Originally by: LeviUK I don't speak for D2 nor do I even speak for MM but if there are as many people in D2 who have the same feelings towards BoB and allies as there are in MM, then peace talks with BoB would be a far quicker death than any war. why would there be peace talks? there's no war, remember
3xcit3 The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.21 15:01:00 - [26] Originally by: Murphy Originally by: 3xcit3 dont talk about things you dont have any idea of.. no fights? i think we gave mc some of the greatest battles they ever fought! watch our killboard.. Kind of hard to when every battle you lock it down so nobody can view how bad you got spanked. and you are?
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.21 15:01:00 - [27] Edited by: Buxaroo on 21/05/2007 15:02:42 Originally by: 3xcit3 Originally by: Buxaroo But tbh, I didn't expect the north to fold up so quickly. From what I have heard only FLA have put up a fight and they didn't seem to get much support from their "allies" D2. D2 have proved to be the biggest paper tiger that has ever been seen in New Eden. dont talk about things you dont have any idea of.. no fights? i think we gave mc some of the greatest battles they ever fought! watch our killboard.. Kind of hard when it gets locked after every major battle But what I meant to say is that you should have supported your allies much more than you have. If you had shown the same support to your allies FLA as BoB did for FIX then you might not be in this situation. Look at how many of the northern alliances are going neutral in this war. They are starting to see, as did RISE and YouWhat, that you guys are not true allies nor do you give the support that is needed to them. You think BoB would sit by and watch D2 or anyone else come in and take over our allies space and not give a helping hand when it's needed? BoB gives support when needed to her allies. It's what allies do. "No matter where you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai
Dashhammer II Amarr O RLY corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.21 15:02:00 - [28] Originally by: LeviUK I don't speak for D2 nor do I even speak for MM but if there are as many people in D2 who have the same feelings towards BoB and allies as there are in MM, then peace talks with BoB would be a far quicker death than any war. Alright, I can understand that there are a fair amount of thrill seekers on both sides. Every corp has a fair amount of them. But behind those people there are players that have only one goal. That goal is to progress themselves, their friends and their corps, in peace. When I was a wee noob, bob took my friends in and looked after them. They gave my noob corp a place to live, things to do and they protected them. This is a favor that many of us can never quite repay. So yes, we fight for bob while you all fight for the coalition (this thing which supposedly doesn't exist) You fight for D2 and MM and Goonswarm and RA. You fight for Iron any anyone else that I've left out. But for those of you that aren't thrill seekers, I'm betting you fight for them for the same reasons I've fuaght for BoB. You fight to protect your people. I look across the battle lines and I see my twin. Don't throw it all away out of pride. Don't let your leaders throw your corp away because a few thrill seekers picked a fight that didn't turn out well for them. We are better than this. Most of us hate you. This is true. There are wounds on both sides. With as much as you hate BOB, understand that there are people in the southern alliance that hate D2 twice as much. But we can get past this. Your leaders can get us past this. Instead of squaring off with us next year when D2 climbs out of empire and claims a region- wouldn't it be great if all this chaos was just a distant memory? Wouldn't it be great if we were blue to each other? It seems impossible, I know. I considered all of this yesterday when I was sitting in a dread, 60km from a coalition pos. But if it's possible for D2 to ask for a truce, then anything is possible. Anything can happen.
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.21 15:06:00 - [29] the truely horrifying thing in there is the spelling of triumvirate
3xcit3 The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.21 15:09:00 - [30] Edited by: 3xcit3 on 21/05/2007 15:08:51 ok, now for the ppl who do not understand or do not want to understand.. we dont lock the killboard down, the software sets it to private mode when server traffic is too high.. when its locked down come back the next day to watch it and btw.. its hard to help your allies when yourself being attacked and you have to defend your space. when we have the time or not the numbers to engange the enemies in our space we move and help our allies.. read seelens last battle report.. or is that too much text for you to read? /edit: to Dashhammer II: there will be no "peace" ps. i do not speak for my corp/ally. thats only my view of things..



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