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KhanJohn Amarr Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.22 08:18:00 - [1] Edited by: KhanJohn on 22/05/2007 08:20:19 just so i get the providence warzone correct , please update this with relative information. This post does not represent my alliance or corporation. Relevant Information only please. If ive missed anyone out i apologise am very tired. AMARRAN LOYALIST FORCES/ALLIES....................FREEDOM FIGHTER FORCES/ALLIES CVA.........................................................................UK PIE.........................................................................BUM SYLPH.......................................................................Evoke NOS.........................................................................Outbreak UCE.........................................................................ENJ NSC-Possibly not involved............................................IO IAC AM
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Luna Rossa Corporation SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.22 12:56:00 - [2] Remember that PIE doesn't count because they only provide moral support from inside stations.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.22 13:19:00 - [3] Edited by: Pezzle on 22/05/2007 13:20:10 Edited by: Pezzle on 22/05/2007 13:17:43 You rebels will do anything to try to glamorize your agenda. UCE is involved in this? Or did you pirates just decide to shoot them? Oh I nearly forgot. UK declared that anyone who would not help them was against them and is now kos. Something for the general populace to remember. Amarr forces, by contrast, are willing to leave innocent pilots be. Oh, and monkey Ixiris, you are nothing but words. The War continues. Amarr Victor
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.22 13:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Pezzle UCE is involved in this? Or did you pirates just decide to shoot them? They came to the aid of some sylph pos with a fleet of ospreys. Hardly the act of someone who wants to stay out of trouble. Now Recruiting
Kade Jeekin Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.22 13:56:00 - [5] Einherjar Rising's ticker is [ENH] not [ENJ] --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity ---------------------------------------
Karn Mithralia Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.22 14:14:00 - [6] Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 22/05/2007 14:13:38 Add Establishment for freedom and NSTAR for tyranny ... unless somethings changed I don't know about ----------------------------------------- Now recruiting.
KhanJohn Amarr Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.22 15:16:00 - [7] Updates made...
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.22 15:47:00 - [8] What we have here is yet another plea by UK for help. They are unable to defend the space they claimed in the name of the Minmatar. To remedy this and satisfy their greed and lust for violence they abandoned that cause and their friends among the Minmatar podders. Now the UK rely on others of a rather nefarious and unsavory reputation to do the bulk of the fighting for them. I have noticed that as fewer UK pilots are willing to launch against Amarr forces, the cries for help and political rabble rabble gets louder. This individual creates a chart. I doubt he was authorized to speak for those others. This is just another rather poor propaganda stunt, nothing more.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.22 15:55:00 - [9] Originally by: Pezzle What we have here is yet another plea by UK for help. They are unable to defend the space they claimed in the name of the Minmatar. A bit rich coming from a member of an Amarrian extremist alliance that needs IAC to defend its POS structures for it. Star Fraction is recruiting
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.22 16:28:00 - [10] Constantine I realize that friendship and loyalty are part of a problematic mementic vector contagion threatening rapid assimilation of humanity and interfering with the abandoning of morality and established proccesses of human progression. Or whatever you read in your little anarch diary. Try to address the topic at hand if you must speak at all. It is interesting how you deluge these channels with your nonsense. Perhaps you should stop stalking Amarrians. You love us so much you exceed our collective comms singlehanded. We are not going to adopt you. You talk to much.

Kabajashi San Minmatar Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.22 16:47:00 - [11] I honestly fail to see the selling of tourist tickets as a plea for help. I'd think they care more for sun lotion and lunch packages than guns and blood.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.22 16:57:00 - [12] Originally by: Pezzle I realize that friendship and loyalty ... So its "friendship and loyalty" when NBSI entities come and help the Amarrian loyalists defend a POS. But its "aggession and opportunistic ganking" when NBSI entities come and help the Matari then? This is the problem Pezzle - you are speaking with a vipers tongue and you cannot square the circle of your hypocrisy on this issue. Star Fraction is recruiting
Redpants Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.05.22 17:14:00 - [13] This is a very clever bit of propaganda you've put together. This is a pathetic attempt to gain support for Ushra'Khan. What a pull with sympathy I'm sure your cause will reap with the sides so clearly defined as Slavers vs. Freedom Fighters. Tell me, why did they have an Amarrian work on this? Did you volunteer or did they ask you becuase you are able to read and write? "My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red."
CometQueen Amarr Amarr Certified News Agency	Posted - 2007.05.22 17:27:00 - [14] Edited by: CometQueen on 22/05/2007 17:25:25 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Pezzle What we have here is yet another plea by UK for help. They are unable to defend the space they claimed in the name of the Minmatar. A bit rich coming from a member of an Amarrian extremist alliance that needs IAC to defend its POS structures for it. I am curious did Ushra'Khan call in help to defend their POS structures? I heard reports of a Titan and several motherships, but not of Ushra'Khan make. Cometqueen Devotee of God and the Truth
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.05.22 17:42:00 - [15] Edited by: Nomakai Delateriel on 22/05/2007 17:41:10 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Pezzle I realize that friendship and loyalty ... So its "friendship and loyalty" when NBSI entities come and help the Amarrian loyalists defend a POS. But its "aggession and opportunistic ganking" when NBSI entities come and help the Matari then? This is the problem Pezzle - you are speaking with a vipers tongue and you cannot square the circle of your hypocrisy on this issue. Sorry Constantine. Your little ploy falls utterly flat on its face. If it was just BUM (and a few others) flying at UKs side, then maybe it would have worked. But a few of the entities on that list were sieging UNITY station as a part of The (Pirate) Coalition less than a year ago. IAC and CVA on the other hand have provided each other with some measure of mutual assistance for a very long time. Not to mention that has their own scores to settle when it comes to UK (if KF wasn't enough). It looks like your slipping further and further into delusion. First the claim that PIE wasn't flying anything large than a battleship (or was it even a claim that they weren't flying anything larger than a frigate or sitting in stations?) right after visual evidence of a PIE carrier in combat against a hostile fleet and now this. Maybe you should let Cosmopolite do the talking from now on. At least he can keep his distorted view of the universe somewhat in line with reality. Somewhat. ...I wonder if this is from interacting with Revan. I knew she was insane, but I never knew it was contagious. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.22 17:44:00 - [16] Originally by: CometQueen Edited by: CometQueen on 22/05/2007 17:25:25 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Pezzle What we have here is yet another plea by UK for help. They are unable to defend the space they claimed in the name of the Minmatar. A bit rich coming from a member of an Amarrian extremist alliance that needs IAC to defend its POS structures for it. I am curious did Ushra'Khan call in help to defend their POS structures? I heard reports of a Titan and several motherships, but not of Ushra'Khan make. Cometqueen Devotee of God and the Truth The fact that they both called in help is the point. CVA are chiding U'K for doing the very thing they did themselves which is a little hypocritical don't you think.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.22 18:01:00 - [17] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Sorry Constantine. Your little ploy falls utterly flat on its face. Says who? A faceless galnet poster with no combat record against my alliance in space? I'm hardly going to be impressed by your opinion now am I? Star Fraction is recruiting
CometQueen Amarr Amarr Certified News Agency	Posted - 2007.05.22 18:03:00 - [18] Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: CometQueen Edited by: CometQueen on 22/05/2007 17:25:25 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Pezzle What we have here is yet another plea by UK for help. They are unable to defend the space they claimed in the name of the Minmatar. A bit rich coming from a member of an Amarrian extremist alliance that needs IAC to defend its POS structures for it. I am curious did Ushra'Khan call in help to defend their POS structures? I heard reports of a Titan and several motherships, but not of Ushra'Khan make. Cometqueen Devotee of God and the Truth The fact that they both called in help is the point. CVA are chiding U'K for doing the very thing they did themselves which is a little hypocritical don't you think. Possibly, I couldn't say. But I was curious, thank you.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.22 18:09:00 - [19] I wouldn't say CVA called us in, more like dropped their opposition to our Providence operations, we would've been there ages ago otherwise. If the matari hadn't filled the region with nasty people I'm sure IAC would still be staying out of it. Btw, get over your obsession with NBSI star fraction, that particular horse was kicked to death a long time ago. http://eve.klaki.net/
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.22 18:16:00 - [20] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I wouldn't say CVA called us in, more like dropped their opposition to our Providence operations, we would've been there ages ago otherwise. So CVA dropped their opposition to your NBSI policies in Providence and you came help them. Nice and clear. Quote: Btw, get over your obsession with NBSI star fraction, that particular horse was kicked to death a long time ago. Maybe for you ... Star Fraction is recruiting

Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.05.22 18:25:00 - [21] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Says who? A faceless galnet poster with no combat record against my alliance in space? I'm hardly going to be impressed by your opinion now am I? Jasmine "the ego" Constantine strikes again. A. I wasn't trying to impress anyone. Contrary to (your) opinion everything stated on GalNet isn't meant to impress anyone (and if I wanted to impress someone it wouldn't be you). I've stated an opinion. That opinion is/should be valued on its own merits. Not the merits of my killboard or wallet. It's basic rules of rethorics really, the argument should be valued separate from the man. B. There are non-SF pilots out there. A few have felt the sting of my guns. Not all that many, but enough. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.22 18:35:00 - [22] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel I've stated an opinion. That opinion is/should be valued on its own merits. Not the merits of my killboard or wallet. It's basic rules of rethorics really, the argument should be valued separate from the man. I've generally noticed that people that claim that the argument is seperate from the person arguing are those without reputation or history to back up their point of view. In your case you sit in an uninvolved corporation sniping from the sidelines - its what you do. You don't have a stake in this conflict and yet you expect to be taken seriously? It just doesn't wash. Do something to win a reputation of your own and then maybe I'll take you seriously. Until then you are just another non-entity dragging along on the CVA coat-tails without any courage of your own. Star Fraction is recruiting
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Luna Rossa Corporation SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.22 18:37:00 - [23] Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 22/05/2007 18:35:40 Originally by: Redpants This is a very clever bit of propaganda you've put together. This is a pathetic attempt to gain support for Ushra'Khan. What a pull with sympathy I'm sure your cause will reap with the sides so clearly defined as Slavers vs. Freedom Fighters. Tell me, why did they have an Amarrian work on this? Did you volunteer or did they ask you becuase you are able to read and write? Get out, Redpants, you traitor, turncoat murderer. The word of a Gallente who murders innocent Caldari, claims to be a staunch supporter of the Federation and then starts working for North Star is worth less than nothing.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.05.22 19:08:00 - [24] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine I've generally noticed that people that claim that the argument is seperate from the person arguing are those without reputation or history to back up their point of view. And I've noticed that there are people (most definitly counting you as one of those people) that thinks that having a history makes them above critique. Sorry, the "I was defending insert value here when you were in diapers" approach doesn't exactly work. Quote: In your case you sit in an uninvolved corporation sniping from the sidelines - its what you do. You don't have a stake in this conflict and yet you expect to be taken seriously? Where is the SF marker in that image? Wierd I just don't see one. What? You don't have a stake in this conflict and yet you expect to be taken seriously? Or something like that... ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.22 19:19:00 - [25] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 22/05/2007 19:17:35 Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel And I've noticed that there are people (most definitly counting you as one of those people) that thinks that having a history makes them above critique. Sorry, the "I was defending insert value here when you were in diapers" approach doesn't exactly work. The irony of course is you didn't make a critique. You made a poorly formatted personal attack from the sidelines. As is common with most amarrian nationalists hypocrisy drips from your lips with every sentence. Star Fraction is recruiting
Redpants Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.05.22 19:29:00 - [26] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 22/05/2007 18:35:40 Originally by: Redpants This is a very clever bit of propaganda you've put together. This is a pathetic attempt to gain support for Ushra'Khan. What a pull with sympathy I'm sure your cause will reap with the sides so clearly defined as Slavers vs. Freedom Fighters. Tell me, why did they have an Amarrian work on this? Did you volunteer or did they ask you becuase you are able to read and write? Get out, Redpants, you traitor, turncoat murderer. The word of a Gallente who murders innocent Caldari, claims to be a staunch supporter of the Federation and then starts working for North Star is worth less than nothing. Go back to your hole in the wild, Intaki. There are no "innocent" Caldari, only wretched greedy thieves who care nothing for anything except the ISK nor anybody unless they have pockets filled with ISK. I fail to see what murdering "innocent" (and I'd use that term loosely) Caldari has anything to do with my unwaivering support for the Federation. I'm assuming you're referring to the group of armed Caldari militants I jet canned by the sun. They were certainly not innocent. And finally, you have nothing to say about the honorable North Star Confederation, save for the dramatic slanderous fiction being spread about us on Galnet lately. You're free to eat that tabloid journalism up, and choke on it. "My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red."
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.05.22 19:31:00 - [27] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 22/05/2007 19:17:35 The irony of course is you didn't make a critique. You made a poorly formatted personal attack from the sidelines. As is common with most amarrian nationalists hypocrisy drips from your lips with every sentence. Oh? Lets re-iterate my critique then. "If it was just BUM (and a few others) flying at UKs side, then maybe it would have worked. But a few of the entities on that list were sieging UNITY station as a part of The (Pirate) Coalition less than a year ago. IAC and CVA on the other hand have provided each other with some measure of mutual assistance for a very long time. Not to mention that IAC has their own scores to settle when it comes to UK (if KF wasn't enough)". The other part, that was a personal attack. And I'll ask again? Where is your name on that image? Because if you're not on it, that means you're pretty much a sideline sniper as well. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.22 20:20:00 - [28] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel The other part, that was a personal attack. That is the part I'm refering too and given its the only thing you bring to the table it's sufficient to categorise you as a sideline-sniping galnet fiend not to be taken seriously by anyone. Star Fraction is recruiting
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.22 20:34:00 - [29] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 22/05/2007 20:34:20 I hardly think that you can accuse anyone else of makeing personal attacks, Mrs. Constantine. Or are you claiming them as your private domain? And I believe Mr. Delateriel did bring something else to the table. He made, I do believe, the valid point that the CVA/IAC relationship is an old one, that it in fact dates from before their expansion into Catch, which brings into some quesstion the classification of them as outside aid. I find the whole discussion utterly irrelevant, however, as the Terrorist said, "the battle lines have been drawn." The terrorist infestation on the southern edge of the Ammatar Mandate will be exterminated, that is all that is important. God will not favor the Heathen. That is all that need be said. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr A Better Future	Posted - 2007.05.22 20:37:00 - [30] Edited by: Nomakai Delateriel on 22/05/2007 20:40:54 [Deleted to cease derailing] ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.



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