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Doguito Amarr ORUS Corporate United Corporations of Eve	Posted - 2007.05.23 18:44:00 - [61] Freedom?? What's this UK's Freedom? An alliance that don¦t care about his neighbors and best friends.Make his system a home for pirates, while UCE and Sylph are attacked persistently. The question is: Should we accept these attacks quietly, while UK help all this bastards? why UK can have friend that are UCE's enemies and we can't? Don¦t follow the UK's rules doesn't mean that we are slavers, this conclusion is pointless.
Kabajashi San Minmatar Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.23 18:54:00 - [62] We don't care for drug dealers. We don't care for pirates (any more). We don't care for Providence. We don't care for highways or territorial politics. We care for our brothers. Not even our enemies can deny that if they stay true. If you want to get involved in this, NStar, you better know your enemy. If you don't understand the reason why we are fighting you will never understand why you will be beaten on the battlefield. You will never understand why we don't care for the loss of our ships, our stations or our lifes. You will never understand why we keep coming at anyone supporting the slavers as long as we breathe. And if we enter the world of the ancestors our souls will still come for you. You don't have a stand in Providence. You don't understand what is happening and why it is happening. You cannot tell lies from truth, good from evil, winning from losing. This is not your war. Go home.
Ktor Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.23 18:58:00 - [63] Mr. KhanJohn Your holo slide, while certainly depicting the enormous amount of time you invested into accuracy, is a bit off the mark. You have Sylph Alliance listed as 'slavers'. This is certainly not true at all. Sylph Alliance is fighting Ushra'Khan because of the pirates that are being allowed to base out of your outpost. If you could spend a few minutes to correct the oversight in your document it would be much appreciated. Ok with that cleared up I need to move onward with this 'gardening' concept others are speaking of. Most of us do like gardens. I myself have dedicated an entire section of my personal quarters for a small garden. It's nice to wander over there every now and then to relax from the days labors. My apologies I seem to have gone off on a tangent. This 'garden' of CVA's you speak of may hold true for some corporations but it does not hold true for Sylph Alliance. We have our own rules in our space. We do not share KOS lists, although we have alot of common enemies. CVA has asked us to change our rules in our space but they have made no demands or threats. Originally by: KhanJohn Also selling tourist locations at your local Unity station, travel to many famous systems including the fun locations of freedom county, the horrible hellhole known as Slaverland and all sorts of other wobnderful exotic providence locations.. I'd like to share with you an intercepted transmission sent to Ushra'Khan tourism division. I am deeply saddened by events such as these and I can only hope that reparations are made to this unfortunate family. I have withheld names to protect them as much as possible. Quote: Dear Sir/Madam My Family and I recently had an excursion to your solitary outpost in the highly acclaimed Providence region. We'd been looking forward to this vacation for a considerably long time. We stretched our budget to purchase the extended '2 month all-inclusive' package from your head office in Rens and sorted out our papers with CONCORD as required a little over 14 months ago. I'd visited the station briefly as part of a business trip. Specifically for Team-Orientation, I'm a financial advisor for a relatively small outfit of corporations that deal exclusively with your alliance. The facilities were far greater than I could have ever imagined, and despite the regular bar-fights, the number of boasted nursery facilities was a selling point. I was pre-warned about the hostilties in the area, but was given assurance that myself, and my family would be in safe hands within your space. Not two systems away from the border patrol though, we were promptly engaged by none other than Ushra'khan friendly forces, or 'Freedom Fighters'. The Badger we'd rented for the vacation was destroyed of course, and I still wonder how we all managed to escape and survive. I therefore give notification that Ushra'Khan and Co Travel Reps will be requiring legal counsel as I fully intend to seek repayment, and additional damages for the situation. Our once in a lifetime holiday was ruined instantly. I find it shameful that you still advertise this opportunity to the public at all. Ktor Sylph Alliance
Malena Panic Acme Technologies Incorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.23 19:06:00 - [64] Originally by: Doguito [b]Freedom?? What's this UK's Freedom? An alliance that don¦t care about his neighbors and best friends.Make his system a home for pirates, while UCE and Sylph are attacked persistently. Ungrateful cur. UK bled ourselves dry trying to protect the region for us all while your pasty, bloated merchants did nothing but trade with and give succor to the slavers. Nothing but pained hand-wringing and crocodile tears as the Imperial juggernaut moved to remove us (your former ally) from the last vestiges of Free Providence. Then when we turn to the hard men who will help our cause, you go running to the skirts of your new masters. Your freedom for the illusion of safety. That's always the way for those with the hearts of slaves. I hope you enjoy that illusion while it lasts. Better than the pretense of friendship eh?
KhanJohn Amarr Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.23 20:55:00 - [65] Ok i think most of the coporations and alliances arrayed against us dont quite understand who we are... we are freedom fighters, we will DO anything to free the enslaved....we are not "good people" we are not "anti pirate" we are "anti slavery" im sick and tired of being expected to bend over backwards for people who have no idea of the sacrifice a UK pilot takes when stepping into his pod...we expect to die....we dont expect to come back to our home of Unity... and i am quite prepared to ram my ship so far up the CVA's backside that they wotn know what hit them... anyway let me address some points Mr redpants ive seen you repeatedly chastise the UK for its decisions we have never ever ever said we are good we are not the CVA we are however very honourable but always we put our enslaved brethren first even over honour...i will not change this to a pirate versus anti pirate war....get it through your thick ego encentric skull that they fight with us because they respect us as many have stated we will take anyones help to achieve our goals of freedom...even shake hands with the devil himself...we are anti slavery... our allies may not share the same agenda as us but we all have a vested interest in seeing the CVA fail to claim providence for the empire...i cant speak of their motives but the UK's are quite clear....deal with it to the sylph who asked about why i have labbeled it slavers versus freedom fighters...to quote a famous line one nations freedom fighter is another nations terrorist we are freedom fighters but labelled as terrorists, we have always actively maintained that whether you enslave or not by helping the CVA you are helping enslavers to continue the persecution...unless CVA are renouncing slavery anytime soon by helping them in war you prevent us in freeing slaves...that makes you an accomplice to the murder of billions i dont think you can refute that especially now i have explained it....there is no justification that is how we see it and i am not asking for any alliance to justify why its in this war.... yes we have piratical entitys on our side but they respect us and we only set red once set red or provoked ourselves ..very similar to the star fraction in that sense...BUT we are not anti pirate...we are not angels...we are the devil...we do not care for our own lives in the risk for freedom...that is why we use the bloodied hand as our symbol.... i will shortly be writing some journals for the summit may it help for all alliances to better understand us enemy and friend alike... Once again my opinions do not represent that of my corporation or alliance... if you'd like further clarification of our policies feel free to evemail or chat to a member of the ushrakhan council... People ask me what i am if i am not Amarran - i am a free "Amarri" all exiled amarrans who do not believe the tainted prophets are!
Sinia Shadow Council	Posted - 2007.05.23 22:23:00 - [66] It seems Ushra'Khan have now called in bob as well and are using Orange Species titan purely for the purpose of trying to bump ships out of control tower shields. Classy as usual. Orange Species > Uk are safe.
Chereadenine Zakalwe VENOM72 Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.23 22:33:00 - [67] Quote: My Family and I recently had an excursion to your solitary outpost in the highly acclaimed Providence region. We'd been looking forward to this vacation for a considerably long time. We stretched our budget to purchase the extended '2 month all-inclusive' package from your head office in Rens and sorted out our papers with CONCORD as required a little over 14 months ago. Such a sad story. My own family had a similar excursion planned,of course we would be traveling incognito due to my ...ahem loyalties,but now it seems no-one is safe!Rest assured i will be canceling my trip in light of this information,and demanding a full refund! Long live the providence tourist information board! Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Derran Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.23 22:47:00 - [68] Originally by: Sinia It seems Ushra'Khan have now called in bob as well and are using Orange Species titan purely for the purpose of trying to bump ships out of control tower shields. Classy as usual. Orange Species > Uk are safe. Did the voices in your head tell you that?
Derran Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.23 22:57:00 - [69] You all make me sick with trying to claim a moral high ground that none of you deserve. While the alliance may have officially been working with certain groups that makes my skin crawl, I have started to see that one person's pirate is another man's soldier. Everyone has their hands dirty and not one of the key groups involved here can claim otherwise because I, for one, have proof and know better.
Maggot Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.23 23:09:00 - [70] What use is it to throw away lives, or even just time, helping your neighbours when not a single one will come to assist when you are in need. These are people who we helped to settle in the hostile environment of Providence. We helped them on a daily basis, and when we needed help...their backs were turned. Either CVA bully boy tactics had frightened them or 'its not our war' was the cry. I feel sorry for those that have now dirtied themselves through working with slavers. They are the excrement of Eve. Ushra'khan helps no-one now but those who will help further its goals. Death to Slavery!

Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.24 00:09:00 - [71] Originally by: Sinia It seems Ushra'Khan have now called in bob as well and are using Orange Species titan purely for the purpose of trying to bump ships out of control tower shields. Classy as usual. Orange Species > Uk are safe. Random player with F-All to do with the conflict: Check Random Comment in a thread with little to nothing to do with what they're saying: Check Completely unproven claim made: Check Result: You are a troll, do not pass go, do not collect 200isk. You were most likely bored in your pod and decided that you needed a bit more epeen. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Pusha Gallente FEDERACAO ESPACIAL BRASILEIRA	Posted - 2007.05.24 00:15:00 - [72] I have only afew things to say... We at UCE played almost a "trade" aliance. We have some ratters, some miners, and our bussines in the region in no way involves attack anyone. So one day Establishment comes and attacked one of our POS. Much to our surprise, UK (our former Allied), beyond the fact of doing nothing to help, bring Establishment to his side. An Alliance that trade sides and allies, like UK did, do not deserves a single minute of my time to care about it. Still, We have to thanks Estab, to mobilize us toward warfare and UK, for the first shoot at our ships (we are neutral at that point). You will regret having another front in this war. And just to finish... YOU FREAKING ROLEPLAYING NUTZ, stop babbling about Slavers, freedom, and this roleplaying stuff. Go live your life.
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.24 00:15:00 - [73] My thanks to Garreck for seeing this as the simple thing it was. To the rest of you lovely flamers / derailers lets try a final time: This is a warning to all none involved parties that Providence is currently in flames and it gives a rough idea of who's shooting who. From that and in conjunction with your own alliance standings it should be possible for most pilots entering the area to work out who is likely to fire on them and who isn't. Feel free to complain about being called slavers. Feel free to claim whatever the hell you want in fact. If you're supporting CVA for whatever reason you are supporting Slavers. Special mention again to Tomahawk Bliss. Get in space and actually fire on someone or go away. All i see is a pilot that whines about other pilots spending lots of time updating these threads and spews vitriol yet never actually manages to get in space and kill something themselves. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Parsor Evarkis Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.24 00:18:00 - [74] My enemy's friend is my enemy My enemy's enemy is my friend It is quite simple to understand
Tomahawk Bliss Minmatar	Posted - 2007.05.24 00:43:00 - [75] Originally by: Sapphrine Special mention again to Tomahawk Bliss. Get in space and actually fire on someone or go away. All i see is a pilot that whines about other pilots spending lots of time updating these threads and spews vitriol yet never actually manages to get in space and kill something themselves. excellent, I now have two fans, you and Devilish hey just because what I said turned out to be the case doesn't mean you should have sour grapes. I assume you are the new Ushra'Khan cry baby? so many new nub faces, can't keep up. kisses Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Chishan Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.24 00:54:00 - [76] He is the Bashar, and an architect of destruction. You'll learn.
Caravan	Posted - 2007.05.24 02:41:00 - [77] Edited by: Caravan on 24/05/2007 02:41:01 Bla Bla Bla
Chereadenine Zakalwe VENOM72 Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.24 09:41:00 - [78] Quote: Completely unproven claim made: Check Screenshots of BoB titan POS bowling:check Fraps of BoB titan PoS bowling:check Sapphrine`s loose grip on reality:check Looks like UK have so many "allies" jumping in they cant even keep track of them, i`d have thought it would be hard not to notice a Ragnorak in your home system tbh Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Amira Silvermist The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.05.24 10:47:00 - [79] Originally by: Maggot What use is it to throw away lives, or even just time, helping your neighbours when not a single one will come to assist when you are in need. Did it ever occur to you that the problem might be found somewhere else? If all the world hates you the problem usually lies rather close...
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.24 11:29:00 - [80] Originally by: Chereadenine Zakalwe Edited by: Chereadenine Zakalwe on 24/05/2007 09:48:17 Quote: Completely unproven claim made: Check Screenshots of BoB titan POS bowling:check Fraps of BoB titan PoS bowling:check Sapphrine`s loose grip on reality:check Perhaps UK have so many "allies" jumping in they cant even keep track of them, i`d have thought it would be hard not to notice a Ragnorak in your home system tbh By that logic Evil Thug coming in and doing.... the same thing just the other week was an ally as well! Excellent, someone should let IAC know that AAA are on our side :P Could it be.... BOB do what the hell they like?! hmmmm... (and i'm sure AAA do also) Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])

Rakiro Gallente Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering	Posted - 2007.05.24 11:29:00 - [81] This really does make for some very amusing reading. It's like watching two playground gangs trying to trashtalk eachother to death... Or at least until somone goes crying to the teacher. -Rakiro
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.24 11:32:00 - [82] Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 24/05/2007 11:30:44 Originally by: Chereadenine Zakalwe Edited by: Chereadenine Zakalwe on 24/05/2007 09:48:17 Quote: Completely unproven claim made: Check Screenshots of BoB titan POS bowling:check Fraps of BoB titan PoS bowling:check Sapphrine`s loose grip on reality:check Perhaps UK have so many "allies" jumping in they cant even keep track of them, i`d have thought it would be hard not to notice a Ragnorak in your home system tbh It was a total suprise, we had no idea it was coming. Though we are on semi friendly terms with bob (they are orange to us, not neutral, not red, not blue) We avoid contact with them as standings from bobs side are not set. Now Recruiting
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:01:00 - [83] BoB do fire at us from time to time.
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:06:00 - [84] Originally by: Mangold BoB do fire at us from time to time. Correct, I guess semi-cautious would be a better description rather than semi friendly. Now Recruiting
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.05.24 13:55:00 - [85] Until he said U'K is safe I was wondering if you were wondering if you'd be 'bowled', too. It was a pretty hillarious thought that all 150 people in system could be taking cover in the trenches waiting for the bomb to strike them or the enemy. Unfortunately he spoiled it. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.05.24 17:56:00 - [86] Doesn't look like he killed anyone on either side though. I think mostly everyone just went "Ack! Titan!" and headed for cover.
Ikoma Sunblazer Caldari Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:23:00 - [87] Edited by: Ikoma Sunblazer on 25/05/2007 02:23:24 Warning belove here you gonna find a very deep thought on this war and the meaning of life in general: ...........pew pew
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.05.25 18:24:00 - [88] Originally by: Ikoma Sunblazer Edited by: Ikoma Sunblazer on 25/05/2007 02:23:24 Warning belove here you gonna find a very deep thought on this war and the meaning of life in general: ..........pew pew This being the problem with outsiders in this war. For those involved it's about more than combat, it's about fighting for what you believe in no matter what that maybe. Those that come to the fight not understanding this basic premise have tainted this conflict. See what you can do with Paintbrush?
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.25 19:48:00 - [89] Edited by: Janu Hull on 25/05/2007 19:47:44 Originally by: Aindrias Originally by: Ikoma Sunblazer Edited by: Ikoma Sunblazer on 25/05/2007 02:23:24 Warning belove here you gonna find a very deep thought on this war and the meaning of life in general: ..........pew pew This being the problem with outsiders in this war. For those involved it's about more than combat, it's about fighting for what you believe in no matter what that maybe. Those that come to the fight not understanding this basic premise have tainted this conflict. Purity of motive is in the eye of the beholder. Some of those entering this conflict from the outside have their own motives, that from their perspective, are equally pure. Some consider ideals and politics to be rather hazy motivations subject to the vagaries of emotion and rationalization. Not saying they're right, but I'm not saying they're wrong, either. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Equinox Daedalus Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:15:00 - [90] Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 25/05/2007 20:18:28 Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 25/05/2007 20:16:20 Originally by: KhanJohn Edited by: KhanJohn on 22/05/2007 15:13:39 Updated: Disclaimer: Some knowledge displayed may be incorrect, and this was made after severla doses of coffee this is a single view of the conflict and does not represent my corporation or alliance..please post if there are any discrepancies. cheers Please add BoB to UK's side, as well as Star Fraction. Thou I dont classify terrorists and pirates as "freedom fighters"...And well I do like to see what you have become. Truely setting yourself upon such high ground. Thou I would of never thought that I'd see the day when I'd have alot more ppl to clense upon my path to enlightenment. The war rages on... The Legion of Spoon : Upon wings of wax I fly, never to close to the sun



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