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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.01.08 18:55:00 -
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Morkt your a stuck record....
Tal
P.S My agent sends his regards
What goes around comes around...
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:03:00 -
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Quote: Morkt your a stuck record.... Tal P.S My agent sends his regards
Maybe - but thats only because the CFS persist in flogging lies about news services and simply cannot be truthful.
You ahve two Senators openly and flagrantly making up lies and it doesnt bother any of you at all - it is yet anothr indication of how low the CFS has fallen and how little honour, truth and ideals mean to them.
A bit like you "oh so valient" self fighting m0o hard from deep within safe empire space it simply leaves the rest of u more and more convinced of your shallow nature and continuing destruction of the CFS alliance from within.
With every post you and yours fall lower and lower into the mire.
You have two senators making public false accusations and none of you has the courage or honesty to call themt o task. Furthermore you all know and deliberately act to harm EVE Guardian with such lies and it is a service to the community as a whole - and none of you care because you have a fixation on it being the enmy of the CFS.
I'll tell you one thing for free, the only true enemy of the CFS is the sort of hypocrisy and base standards exhibited by Cardassius and Ends and yourself.
Brave on the forums, incapable of actually commiting to the fight, quick with the accusations and lies, incapable of providing evidence.
You fail by your own standards and cannot see it, so blinkered are you.
Your measure ahs been taken, well and truly, and you, Cardassius, Ends and more have all been found wanting.
Enjoy your notoriety as liars, cowards and promoters of hate.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:19:00 -
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and round we go again. And Morkt if i've been found wanting by you... Well thats a compliment.
Cya
Tal
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Fargas
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:21:00 -
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Can you from CFS please respond to the accusations and facts being given out freely instead of starting to throw false accusations left and right?
I can only second what Morkt just wrote. The items you accuse us and others for, are only accounted for by yourself. It's called projection, when you transfer your own actions onto others to verify your own act. This time around, none of us others are guilty of anything you state.
Oh. There is always deniability..
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Walsingham
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:22:00 -
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Quote: Morkt your a stuck record....
And you betrayed your alliance and left them to die.
Why are you even still posting as a CFS member when you cant even be bothered to defend it?
Cardassius lied. EVE Guardian didn't get anything illegally, it was given to them, freely and openly.
And if "he" hadn't given it to them I would have done.
Just stop the lies Talon, and you cardassius and you Raindrop. Your attitudes and posts here just add to further destroy the CFS. its a LIE, ok. a big fat lie.
Cardassius has NO proof at all nor does anybody in the CFS.
Ok - done, Its over now Morkt OK?
A CFS Seantor with full access to everything that is going onis hereby saying - "Its a lie by CFS, there is nothing to say EVE Guardian did ANYTHING wrong at all, and Cardassius made it all up."
(Some of us still have honour and decency)
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heavyg
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: heavyg on 08/01/2004 19:33:06
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(Some of us still have honour and decency)
But not enough to post as your main
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 08/01/2004 19:37:05
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Quote: Morkt your a stuck record....
And you betrayed your alliance and left them to die.
Why are you even still posting as a CFS member when you cant even be bothered to defend it?
Cardassius lied. EVE Guardian didn't get anything illegally, it was given to them, freely and openly.
And if "he" hadn't given it to them I would have done.
Just stop the lies Talon, and you cardassius and you Raindrop. Your attitudes and posts here just add to further destroy the CFS. its a LIE, ok. a big fat lie.
Cardassius has NO proof at all nor does anybody in the CFS.
Ok - done, Its over now Morkt OK?
A CFS Seantor with full access to everything that is going onis hereby saying - "Its a lie by CFS, there is nothing to say EVE Guardian did ANYTHING wrong at all, and Cardassius made it all up."
(Some of us still have honour and decency)
You have no honour or you would be posting with your main. CFS is not dead yet if you think so just leave.
Fargas you just sound like a Morkt wannabe get back in your sell Mr president.
Morkt well your just Morkt
Cya
Tal
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:40:00 -
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The only thing i could reply would be a repeat and since you don't seem to listen. I won't bother anymore. This thread has done for me. Raindrop
Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
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Walsingham
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:44:00 -
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(Some of us still have honour and decency)
But not enough to post as your main
That's just courage i lack... who can blame me when you see how badly CFS boardwarriors hound others they take a dislike to?
I am not going to fight one man corporations who claim senatorial positions of influence and yet cannot manage to help defend what they claim to support so dearly.
I have spoken the truth and, by god, all of the CFS know it.
Those were LIES told by CFS Seantors and supported herein by CFS Senators.
SENATORS for crying out loud, and they are all lieing and coniving over and over and over in this thread and elsewhere.
Is it any wonder the CFS is a gutted ruin in terms of morals and ideals?
Just loook at them heavyg, look upon our wise Seantors posting and supporting outright lies and false accusation.
Doesn't this all prove the point? Can they not see how shallow they look? heavyg I want some truth and honourput back into the CFS, I'm sick of these liars surrounding us and publically supporting or dodging the truth.
Im sick of them all and I will not give them the opportunity to attack me personally as a way to escape their own shame.
I will not do it.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:47:00 -
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(Some of us still have honour and decency)
But not enough to post as your main
That's just courage i lack... who can blame me when you see how badly CFS boardwarriors hound others they take a dislike to?
I am not going to fight one man corporations who claim senatorial positions of influence and yet cannot manage to help defend what they claim to support so dearly.
I have spoken the truth and, by god, all of the CFS know it.
Those were LIES told by CFS Seantors and supported herein by CFS Senators.
SENATORS for crying out loud, and they are all lieing and coniving over and over and over in this thread and elsewhere.
Is it any wonder the CFS is a gutted ruin in terms of morals and ideals?
Just loook at them heavyg, look upon our wise Seantors posting and supporting outright lies and false accusation.
Doesn't this all prove the point? Can they not see how shallow they look? heavyg I want some truth and honourput back into the CFS, I'm sick of these liars surrounding us and publically supporting or dodging the truth.
Im sick of them all and I will not give them the opportunity to attack me personally as a way to escape their own shame.
I will not do it.
What lies I challenge you mr CFS member to show me proof of any lie I have knowingly written and supported.
Tal
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.01.08 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Cardassius on 08/01/2004 21:06:09 And unlike others who hide behind their alts and computers i'm someone with honor and dignity.
I don't lie, even IF someone handed it to EG. It's STILL illegal ;) And on request EG should remove such information like ANY other news agency would do ;) If they want to be respected by all parties.
You wanted it to be like real life now you have it ;) YES something CAN ben illegal in EVE!
I'm off to vote ;) cya
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.08 21:18:00 -
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I don't lie, even IF someone handed it to EG. It's STILL illegal ;) And on request EG should remove such information like ANY other news agency would do ;) If they want to be respected by all parties.
You wanted it to be like real life now you have it ;) YES something CAN ben illegal in EVE!
I'm off to vote ;) cya
erm so how did things like watergate get out, funny how the press keep publishing lots and lots and lots of sstuff others would like to keep quiet... thena gain perhaps you don't live in a western democracy.... or did i just miss the ideas of free press and such like - or are you talking total rubbish?
Ah yes - you're talking total rubbish.
Feel free to explain to everybody how A CFS Senator giving a news service details of a propsed bill is illegal though. Should be good for a laugh.
And, btw, if its illegal in EVE< then do something about it via the legal system... 
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.01.08 21:21:00 -
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A small hint:
If your boss tells you to wait with telling everyone about a document. Would you give this document to CNN?
I think not :) You'll be out of a job and sued to death ;)
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.08 21:22:00 -
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Quote: A small hint:
If your boss tells you to wait with telling everyone about a document. Would you give this document to CNN?
I think not :) You'll be out of a job and sued to death ;)
Erm Cardassius - tht doesnt make it illegal for the Press to PUBLISH it... just makes it risky for the guy who leaks it.

Try again.
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.01.08 21:31:00 -
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They can sue the news agency too. Or make them remove the news from their website.
This kind of information gathering is illegal.
Which in this case hasn't happened. And i think it's just to get more hits on their website.
They also don't post things like exploits that are being used by pirates because they are "unproven" (lol sorry but there is proof enough) but they do post things about alleged killings by Lord Zap for example.
Now i'm getting those damn homeless...fekking agents..oops i'm not even in CFS space :P
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.08 21:43:00 -
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Quote: They can sue the news agency too. Or make them remove the news from their website.
This kind of information gathering is illegal.
Which in this case hasn't happened. And i think it's just to get more hits on their website.
They also don't post things like exploits that are being used by pirates because they are "unproven" (lol sorry but there is proof enough) but they do post things about alleged killings by Lord Zap for example.
What are you going on about Cardassius? Are you saying EG now print exploits? 
Erm.. how..? Where...?
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.01.08 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Cardassius on 08/01/2004 21:57:54
Quote: Eh? What the heck are you dribbling about? EVE Guardain are an in-character news service, they arentrun by CCP you nimby. CCP decide whats an exploit.. and why would EG publish a list of exploits even if they were proven?
in-character? hmmm.. how can you be that when you aren't in-game? ;)
So there's no out-game content is there? hmmm..weird i saw some outside content in their newspost..hmmm
:P
I can remember someone mailing me the exact words, to bad my pc crashed and that mail got away :(
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Mistress D'Malice
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Posted - 2004.01.08 22:19:00 -
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The point of it being illegal is NOT the way in which it was gotten. It is incorrect of the Guardian to not only use the information given but to then refuce to remove it at the owners request.
This is just another example of where the game tries to follow real life exmaples but doesnt leave us with the tools to follow it as such.
And I am sorry, but NO ONE can honestly say that Guardian is a neutral website for the betterment of the game. Its a propaganda website that takes game issues and places it own spin on things.
And I have to wonder if Morkt has so much connection with it, then that might have more to do with it then he would like to admit. Black Lotus Official Forums - www.blacklotusclan.com Contact Me - [email protected] |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.08 22:25:00 -
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I don't read Eve Guardian for one simple reason:
It's exactly as factually accurate as the Daily Sport but without the big **** on every other page.
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.01.08 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Cardassius on 08/01/2004 22:37:56 Thank you Mistress D'Malice for putting it right on the spot ;)
And why does Big Bang Burger have a grudge vs the CFS. We buy stuff from you! Customer is allways king! :P
Oh and Ayane,
I think you mix up things ;) And no my native language isn't english it's my 2nd.
And ooC/ooG, there's no real definition on what they include and what not. And I'm not tempted to go and discuss about this..
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.08 22:33:00 -
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Quote: The point of it being illegal is NOT the way in which it was gotten. It is incorrect of the Guardian to not only use the information given but to then refuce to remove it at the owners request.
This is just another example of where the game tries to follow real life exmaples but doesnt leave us with the tools to follow it as such.
And I am sorry, but NO ONE can honestly say that Guardian is a neutral website for the betterment of the game. Its a propaganda website that takes game issues and places it own spin on things.
And I have to wonder if Morkt has so much connection with it, then that might have more to do with it then he would like to admit.
oh shush it.
You bother to take notice that the only people who ever complaign about the neutralityof EG are those who it publishes any news on.
Yes, exactly.
And we've all been there with the EVEs inhabitants. There is absolutely nothing wrong in either the way it got the information or in publishing it.
Its what news is.. news.. a proposed bill that stops CFS space being Free Space IS news.
All these alt-postings by pseudo-enraged CFS people are nothing more than angrykids who got caight with their hand in the cookie jar.
So far EG has been biased against every single alliance in the game... pretty good sign thats it unbiased ...
People who think that nothing can be published without it being agreed by the lawyers of whomever it mentions need to get a grip on reality, firstly on how this is a game and secondly on how press works... do we yet again have to go through the same old "of course its opinion its written by a person" spiel evey time the CFS get caught with their pants down?
Be ike Joshua for gods sake, dont read it if you don't like, or go do your own News service, but quit preaching about things you have no clue about.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.08 22:39:00 -
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Quote: Thank you Mistress D'Malice for putting it right on the spot ;)
And why does Big Bang Burger have a grudge vs the CFS. We buy stuff from you! Customer is allways king! :P
BBBB doesn't, nor do I.
I have a massive grudge against the false CFS though and a monumental grudge agaisnt their deliberate longterm attempts to prove EG is deliberatly anti-CFS.
The CFS ideals of free space are great, unfortunately many of the current senators abandoned those ideals a long time ago.
Every single news service in EVE history has been vilified and attacked for doing nothing other than their job of presenting news with opinion.
Funny how all these prophets of "how it should be done" are incapable of doing it themselves.
Until they do jsut that they are clearly talking about things they have no clue about.
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.01.08 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Cardassius on 08/01/2004 22:49:59 A Bill is a Bill, and it has to be voted on. Like at elections, these kind of bills need be voted on by the senate before they are aproved.
So it's not NEWS yet because maybe this bill won't even come through the senate.
- bet they won't post anything about it when the bill doesn't get through :)
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Fargas
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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:22:00 -
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Quote: Fargas I know Morkt is anti CFS but what got you started on the hate campaign. Not a flame just wondering.
Tal
I'm not on a hate campaign. I'm out here to speak my mind. I think CFS has acted totally wrong the last couple of weeks. This weeks actions are just too much, and I'm speaking up.
If you call that hate, that's your opinion and I welcome it. I on the other hand share the wrath Walsingham, DigitalCommunist and others feel about the whole situation with CFS.
And this thread, you are the ones sitting on the proof. Your only comment (so far) has been silence and that it's not worthy your presence. Sorry for jumping on such opportunities when i want the truth, and honestly my faith in CFS have been shattered.
And I might have a couple ideas that would save you from the current situation, but it's too late now ain't it?
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