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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:22:00 -
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Revelations patch 1.4.3 has been deployed and Tranquility has returned to service. If you have an issue after the deployment, please check the Known Issues page to see if the Dev Team is already aware of it and submit a bug report. If you are unsure of what has been changed in this patch, please take a look at the Patch Notes page.
Please keep feedback constructive and on-topic. Negative, spam or posts not directly related to the patch deployment, bugs or issues will be deleted.
The Dev Team will be monitoring this thread throughout the next few days to keep abreast of the patch deployment and status.
Wrangler
Assistant Community Manager
EVE Online
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Damon Ra
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:46:00 -
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I have a very simple question.
Why were none of the existing "issues" on the known issues page resolved in this patch?
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2007.05.24 14:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Damon Ra
I have a very simple question.
Why were none of the existing "issues" on the known issues page resolved in this patch?
Because the fixes have been made in the code branch used for Revelations 2 and its not safe to try and deploy them in the current TQ code branch.
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Fho
Epitoth Fleetyards
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:03:00 -
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Linking thread pertaining to login issue due.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=525268&page=1
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Damon Ra
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Damon Ra on 24/05/2007 15:02:47
Thank you very much..
So this then begs the question:
When can we expect Revelations 2?
I am not looking for a firm target date, but a ballpark. Some of the bugs that keep getting ignored personally have me at wits end, and I would like to make an informed decision in regard to my subscriptions. |
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Damon Ra
Edited by: Damon Ra on 24/05/2007 15:02:47
Thank you very much..
So this then begs the question:
When can we expect Revelations 2?
I am not looking for a firm target date, but a ballpark. Some of the bugs that keep getting ignored personally have me at wits end, and I would like to make an informed decision in regard to my subscriptions.
SoonÖ 
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Damon Ra
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mephysto
SoonÖ
Sorry, but if that was an attempt at humor it was lost on me.
Can I please have a more specific answer from someone who actually knows, as in 2 months from now, 3 months, 5, 6 or whatever?
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Grismar
Gallente
The Establishment
Establishment
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:24:00 -
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Soon(tm), when used by CCP officials, is widely known to mean:
"Don't worry, we're working on it, really. We want to play with it as much as you do. But if something more important comes up first, QA doesn't cut us some slack or Oveur treats everyone to bree again, it might get delayed some. And oh, if you find some more bugs, we'll have to fix those. And exploits. Need to fix exploits first."
Sound familiar? If you're working in the software business, you're lucky if it does, because usually it's even worse, far worse. Face it, building a game is just work, a business like any other, just more fun than most. Now, there's something to be said for not announcing stuff at all, if you really don't know when it's done. But then again, -we- do keep asking for little hints and promises.
Considering the length of my post sofar, be glad that CCP adopted the use of Soon(tm), instead of pasting in some meaningless lengthy response every single time you ask "When?".
Greetings,
Grismar.
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Di Jiensai
Gallente
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Damon Ra
Originally by: Mephysto
Soon™
Sorry, but if that was an attempt at humor it was lost on me.
Can I please have a more specific answer from someone who actually knows, as in 2 months from now, 3 months, 5, 6 or whatever?
This answer simply means "as soon as we can, maybe next week, probably in 2 months, but it could also be 6 months."
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PHPR Freighter
Minmatar
PTS Industries
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:27:00 -
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I read somewhere that it was during the summer... I dunno when summer is (depending on where you are) as in AZ, its either Hell Temps, or Hell freezing over temps...
but I do suspect this year. Which would be nice...
Scream if you support Macro Pirating. |
Damon Ra
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:36:00 -
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Anyone with gold bars want to tackle this very, very simple question? |
Zartmann
Caldari
XUKRUT
United Corporations of Eve
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:50:00 -
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Patching Error in file. An unknown error has occured. Please try to install this patch again.
error ept0034;
WTF !!!  Any help ?
Vista Notebook was running 100% before patch!
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:51:00 -
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We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment.
Wrangler
Assistant Community Manager
EVE Online
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:55:00 -
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What were the exploits that you fixed?
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Damon Ra
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.24 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment.
Thanks Wrangler.
Sorry to be a pest, but it is in fact already summer where I am, so could you elaborate some more please? |
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Damon Ra
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment.
Thanks Wrangler.
Sorry to be a pest, but it is in fact already summer where I am, so could you elaborate some more please?
Deployment during summer doesn't mean start of summer, just at some point before the summer ends, I'd say at some point during Q2 and Q3.
Wrangler
Assistant Community Manager
EVE Online
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Damon Ra
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Deployment during summer doesn't mean start of summer, just at some point before the summer ends, I'd say at some point during Q2 and Q3.
Thank you Wrangler, that is specific enough for me.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Damon Ra
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment.
Thanks Wrangler.
Sorry to be a pest, but it is in fact already summer where I am, so could you elaborate some more please?
Deployment during summer doesn't mean start of summer, just at some point before the summer ends, I'd say at some point during Q2 and Q3.
Any fixes to the drone regions, will we also have to wait for Rev 2? Waiting 6 months now on fixing of broken regions (exploration, roids)...
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KingKenny
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment.
Could you narrow the Summer time frame a little, summer 2007 or summer 2008?
Are we talking New Zealand summer or European Summer?
Forgive me for being a tad cynical but you have missed every major expansion by a whole season or two in the past so not expecting Rev 2 to fair any better.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: KingKenny
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment.
Could you narrow the Summer time frame a little, summer 2007 or summer 2008?
Are we talking New Zealand summer or European Summer?
Forgive me for being a tad cynical but you have missed every major expansion by a whole season or two in the past so not expecting Rev 2 to fair any better.
I can almost promise you it's this century.. maybe.. smart alec. 
Wrangler
Assistant Community Manager
EVE Online
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Zell
Caldari
The Black Raptors
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Bein Glorious
What were the exploits that you fixed?
You'll surely find out when your alliance starts screeeming about them being taken away.............. 
A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.. |
Bein Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zell
Originally by: Bein Glorious
What were the exploits that you fixed?
You'll surely find out when your alliance starts screeeming about them being taken away..............
That was a little uncalled for.
If anything, if they finally fixed it so POS-bowling isn't possible anymore, then I think everyone would be pretty happy about it, for now, at least. |
Dal Thrax
Caldari
Multiverse Corporation
The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.05.24 16:53:00 -
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Can CCP update the patch notes with what exploits where fixed?
Dal
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
we are screwed. delaying startup again. soon as i have time i will fill you in on the details
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Tipz Serva
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Posted - 2007.05.24 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
Can CCP update the patch notes with what exploits where fixed?
I'd like to know as well, it's fine to keep it a secret before the patch fixes them but now it's time to spill the beans!
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Morscerta
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Posted - 2007.05.24 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Morscerta on 24/05/2007 17:51:19
Edited by: Morscerta on 24/05/2007 17:50:42
I was wondering which exploits where fixed, you say they were already mentioned however I can not find any references
*edit: maybe I should read the whole thread not just the first couple posts ;)
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CCP kieron
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Posted - 2007.05.24 18:01:00 -
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Exploits will be added to the patch notes in a few minutes.
As for the Revelations 2 deployment, Grismar's post is not that far off the mark. Wrangler stated Rev2 would be deployed before the end of summer. We would like to be more specific than that, but we need room to wiggle if we encounter difficulties, testing takes longer than expected, a critical defect is found and resolution takes longer than expected, Marketing wants to launch a campaign that pushes the date back by a couple weeks, etc.
When we have the green light to make the deployment announcement, believe me, we will make it ASAP.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online, CCP Games
Email/Netfang
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Drako Krakin
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.24 18:25:00 -
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I project the Rev 2 deployment on 4 Sep 2007, based upon a simple combination of logic and pessimism.
You just take everything that the Devs have stated and take into account standard Icelandic holiday schedules. So, it was stated Q2 or Q3 (Apr-Jun, Jul-Sep). it was also stated the deployment would be before the end of summer (Jun-Aug). Icelandic holiday schedule generally involves take a month of vacation in the summer (lose a month of team effort because someone is on vacation).
Keep in mind it will be released and have been patched at least twice before Fanfest. They will want it working nicely when their customers are on their front doorstep.
Therefore, they will miss summer because of vacation time; but will beat the Devs with whatever is handy to get it out first week in September. The first tuesday is the 4th.
If one the off chance that I am actually right about the date I would like a nice cardboard cookie, which will reflect the amount of effort I put into coming up with this date.
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.05.24 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Callthetruth on 24/05/2007 18:48:18
motsu is still laggy to the max, thanks CCP more palyer ship wrecks more t2 and generally more ISKies for me to play arond with thanks
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Southern Kros
LOW SEC MINING
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Posted - 2007.05.24 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Drako Krakin
I project the Rev 2 deployment on 4 Sep 2007, based upon a simple combination of logic and pessimism.
You just take everything that the Devs have stated and take into account standard Icelandic holiday schedules. So, it was stated Q2 or Q3 (Apr-Jun, Jul-Sep). it was also stated the deployment would be before the end of summer (Jun-Aug). Icelandic holiday schedule generally involves take a month of vacation in the summer (lose a month of team effort because someone is on vacation).
Keep in mind it will be released and have been patched at least twice before Fanfest. They will want it working nicely when their customers are on their front doorstep.
Therefore, they will miss summer because of vacation time; but will beat the Devs with whatever is handy to get it out first week in September. The first tuesday is the 4th.
If one the off chance that I am actually right about the date I would like a nice cardboard cookie, which will reflect the amount of effort I put into coming up with this date.
I am sorry but you are way too optimistic. We now hear the time frame is late summer, late summer is end of September. So pencil in 27th September. However a critcal defect will be found and it will delayed a week.
I figure 2nd October and it will be down 24hrs so we get to play around 4pm on the 3rd October. The first bug fix patch around 18.45 on the 3rd October and the 2nd bug fix patch the following day in an extended down time. Eve will be playable around 15.27 on the 4th October.
Remember to set a long skill training until the 7th or 8th October.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.24 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Par''Gellen on 24/05/2007 19:11:52
Originally by: Mephysto
Originally by: Damon Ra
I have a very simple question.
Why were none of the existing "issues" on the known issues page resolved in this patch?
Because the fixes have been made in the code branch used for Revelations 2 and its not safe to try and deploy them in the current TQ code branch.
If the important fixes are in a different code branch, that raises another question. Does that mean the issues that were fixed in this branch will be reintroduced when Rev 2 is deployed? I remember a dev posting a blog about how the code branches worked with a graphic that basically explained why old bugs come back. People working on a new branch while other people are fixing a different one. It's like in the movies when someone goes back in time and screws up the timeline by shooting their own father before they are born. This seems like a horrible way to do things...
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