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CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.05.24 14:22:00 - [1] Revelations patch 1.4.3 has been deployed and Tranquility has returned to service. If you have an issue after the deployment, please check the Known Issues page to see if the Dev Team is already aware of it and submit a bug report. If you are unsure of what has been changed in this patch, please take a look at the Patch Notes page. Please keep feedback constructive and on-topic. Negative, spam or posts not directly related to the patch deployment, bugs or issues will be deleted. The Dev Team will be monitoring this thread throughout the next few days to keep abreast of the patch deployment and status. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Damon Ra Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.24 14:46:00 - [2] I have a very simple question. Why were none of the existing "issues" on the known issues page resolved in this patch?

Mephysto	Posted - 2007.05.24 14:50:00 - [3] Originally by: Damon Ra I have a very simple question. Why were none of the existing "issues" on the known issues page resolved in this patch? Because the fixes have been made in the code branch used for Revelations 2 and its not safe to try and deploy them in the current TQ code branch.

Fho Epitoth Fleetyards	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:03:00 - [4] Linking thread pertaining to login issue due. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=525268&page=1
Damon Ra Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:03:00 - [5] Edited by: Damon Ra on 24/05/2007 15:02:47 Thank you very much.. So this then begs the question: When can we expect Revelations 2? I am not looking for a firm target date, but a ballpark. Some of the bugs that keep getting ignored personally have me at wits end, and I would like to make an informed decision in regard to my subscriptions.

Mephysto	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:05:00 - [6] Originally by: Damon Ra Edited by: Damon Ra on 24/05/2007 15:02:47 Thank you very much.. So this then begs the question: When can we expect Revelations 2? I am not looking for a firm target date, but a ballpark. Some of the bugs that keep getting ignored personally have me at wits end, and I would like to make an informed decision in regard to my subscriptions. SoonÖ

Damon Ra Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Mephysto SoonÖ Sorry, but if that was an attempt at humor it was lost on me. Can I please have a more specific answer from someone who actually knows, as in 2 months from now, 3 months, 5, 6 or whatever?
Grismar Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:24:00 - [8] Soon(tm), when used by CCP officials, is widely known to mean: "Don't worry, we're working on it, really. We want to play with it as much as you do. But if something more important comes up first, QA doesn't cut us some slack or Oveur treats everyone to bree again, it might get delayed some. And oh, if you find some more bugs, we'll have to fix those. And exploits. Need to fix exploits first." Sound familiar? If you're working in the software business, you're lucky if it does, because usually it's even worse, far worse. Face it, building a game is just work, a business like any other, just more fun than most. Now, there's something to be said for not announcing stuff at all, if you really don't know when it's done. But then again, -we- do keep asking for little hints and promises. Considering the length of my post sofar, be glad that CCP adopted the use of Soon(tm), instead of pasting in some meaningless lengthy response every single time you ask "When?". Greetings, Grismar.
Di Jiensai Gallente Domination.	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Damon Ra Originally by: Mephysto Soon™ Sorry, but if that was an attempt at humor it was lost on me. Can I please have a more specific answer from someone who actually knows, as in 2 months from now, 3 months, 5, 6 or whatever? This answer simply means "as soon as we can, maybe next week, probably in 2 months, but it could also be 6 months." Happy now?
PHPR Freighter Minmatar PTS Industries United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:27:00 - [10] I read somewhere that it was during the summer... I dunno when summer is (depending on where you are) as in AZ, its either Hell Temps, or Hell freezing over temps... but I do suspect this year. Which would be nice... Scream if you support Macro Pirating.
Damon Ra Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:36:00 - [11] Anyone with gold bars want to tackle this very, very simple question?
Zartmann Caldari XUKRUT United Corporations of Eve	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:50:00 - [12] Patching Error in file. An unknown error has occured. Please try to install this patch again. error ept0034; WTF !!! Any help ? Vista Notebook was running 100% before patch! _-=I\| \|I=-_

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:51:00 - [13] We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:55:00 - [14] What were the exploits that you fixed?
Damon Ra Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.24 15:58:00 - [15] Originally by: CCP Wrangler We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment. Thanks Wrangler. Sorry to be a pest, but it is in fact already summer where I am, so could you elaborate some more please?

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Damon Ra Originally by: CCP Wrangler We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment. Thanks Wrangler. Sorry to be a pest, but it is in fact already summer where I am, so could you elaborate some more please? Deployment during summer doesn't mean start of summer, just at some point before the summer ends, I'd say at some point during Q2 and Q3. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Damon Ra Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:04:00 - [17] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Deployment during summer doesn't mean start of summer, just at some point before the summer ends, I'd say at some point during Q2 and Q3. Thank you Wrangler, that is specific enough for me.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:06:00 - [18] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Damon Ra Originally by: CCP Wrangler We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment. Thanks Wrangler. Sorry to be a pest, but it is in fact already summer where I am, so could you elaborate some more please? Deployment during summer doesn't mean start of summer, just at some point before the summer ends, I'd say at some point during Q2 and Q3. Any fixes to the drone regions, will we also have to wait for Rev 2? Waiting 6 months now on fixing of broken regions (exploration, roids)... signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
KingKenny	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:12:00 - [19] Originally by: CCP Wrangler We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment. Could you narrow the Summer time frame a little, summer 2007 or summer 2008? Are we talking New Zealand summer or European Summer? Forgive me for being a tad cynical but you have missed every major expansion by a whole season or two in the past so not expecting Rev 2 to fair any better.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:20:00 - [20] Originally by: KingKenny Originally by: CCP Wrangler We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment. Could you narrow the Summer time frame a little, summer 2007 or summer 2008? Are we talking New Zealand summer or European Summer? Forgive me for being a tad cynical but you have missed every major expansion by a whole season or two in the past so not expecting Rev 2 to fair any better. I can almost promise you it's this century.. maybe.. smart alec. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Zell Caldari The Black Raptors	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:24:00 - [21] Originally by: Bein Glorious What were the exploits that you fixed? You'll surely find out when your alliance starts screeeming about them being taken away.............. A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once..
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Zell Originally by: Bein Glorious What were the exploits that you fixed? You'll surely find out when your alliance starts screeeming about them being taken away.............. That was a little uncalled for. If anything, if they finally fixed it so POS-bowling isn't possible anymore, then I think everyone would be pretty happy about it, for now, at least.
Dal Thrax Caldari Multiverse Corporation The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.05.24 16:53:00 - [23] Can CCP update the patch notes with what exploits where fixed? Dal Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again. soon as i have time i will fill you in on the details
Tipz Serva	Posted - 2007.05.24 17:32:00 - [24] Originally by: Dal Thrax Can CCP update the patch notes with what exploits where fixed? I'd like to know as well, it's fine to keep it a secret before the patch fixes them but now it's time to spill the beans!
Morscerta	Posted - 2007.05.24 17:50:00 - [25] Edited by: Morscerta on 24/05/2007 17:51:19 Edited by: Morscerta on 24/05/2007 17:50:42 I was wondering which exploits where fixed, you say they were already mentioned however I can not find any references *edit: maybe I should read the whole thread not just the first couple posts ;)

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.05.24 18:01:00 - [26] Exploits will be added to the patch notes in a few minutes. As for the Revelations 2 deployment, Grismar's post is not that far off the mark. Wrangler stated Rev2 would be deployed before the end of summer. We would like to be more specific than that, but we need room to wiggle if we encounter difficulties, testing takes longer than expected, a critical defect is found and resolution takes longer than expected, Marketing wants to launch a campaign that pushes the date back by a couple weeks, etc. When we have the green light to make the deployment announcement, believe me, we will make it ASAP. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Drako Krakin Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.24 18:25:00 - [27] I project the Rev 2 deployment on 4 Sep 2007, based upon a simple combination of logic and pessimism. You just take everything that the Devs have stated and take into account standard Icelandic holiday schedules. So, it was stated Q2 or Q3 (Apr-Jun, Jul-Sep). it was also stated the deployment would be before the end of summer (Jun-Aug). Icelandic holiday schedule generally involves take a month of vacation in the summer (lose a month of team effort because someone is on vacation). Keep in mind it will be released and have been patched at least twice before Fanfest. They will want it working nicely when their customers are on their front doorstep. Therefore, they will miss summer because of vacation time; but will beat the Devs with whatever is handy to get it out first week in September. The first tuesday is the 4th. If one the off chance that I am actually right about the date I would like a nice cardboard cookie, which will reflect the amount of effort I put into coming up with this date.
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.05.24 18:45:00 - [28] Edited by: Callthetruth on 24/05/2007 18:48:18 motsu is still laggy to the max, thanks CCP more palyer ship wrecks more t2 and generally more ISKies for me to play arond with thanks
Southern Kros LOW SEC MINING	Posted - 2007.05.24 18:48:00 - [29] Originally by: Drako Krakin I project the Rev 2 deployment on 4 Sep 2007, based upon a simple combination of logic and pessimism. You just take everything that the Devs have stated and take into account standard Icelandic holiday schedules. So, it was stated Q2 or Q3 (Apr-Jun, Jul-Sep). it was also stated the deployment would be before the end of summer (Jun-Aug). Icelandic holiday schedule generally involves take a month of vacation in the summer (lose a month of team effort because someone is on vacation). Keep in mind it will be released and have been patched at least twice before Fanfest. They will want it working nicely when their customers are on their front doorstep. Therefore, they will miss summer because of vacation time; but will beat the Devs with whatever is handy to get it out first week in September. The first tuesday is the 4th. If one the off chance that I am actually right about the date I would like a nice cardboard cookie, which will reflect the amount of effort I put into coming up with this date. I am sorry but you are way too optimistic. We now hear the time frame is late summer, late summer is end of September. So pencil in 27th September. However a critcal defect will be found and it will delayed a week. I figure 2nd October and it will be down 24hrs so we get to play around 4pm on the 3rd October. The first bug fix patch around 18.45 on the 3rd October and the 2nd bug fix patch the following day in an extended down time. Eve will be playable around 15.27 on the 4th October. Remember to set a long skill training until the 7th or 8th October. ----------------------------------------- Just a forum alt for a 58mil SP carebear character. Hey, its safer this way.
Par'Gellen Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.24 19:11:00 - [30] Edited by: Par''Gellen on 24/05/2007 19:11:52 Originally by: Mephysto Originally by: Damon Ra I have a very simple question. Why were none of the existing "issues" on the known issues page resolved in this patch? Because the fixes have been made in the code branch used for Revelations 2 and its not safe to try and deploy them in the current TQ code branch. If the important fixes are in a different code branch, that raises another question. Does that mean the issues that were fixed in this branch will be reintroduced when Rev 2 is deployed? I remember a dev posting a blog about how the code branches worked with a graphic that basically explained why old bugs come back. People working on a new branch while other people are fixing a different one. It's like in the movies when someone goes back in time and screws up the timeline by shooting their own father before they are born. This seems like a horrible way to do things... --- To err is human. But it shouldn't be the company motto...
charlie ZA The Twin Pillar Corp	Posted - 2007.05.24 20:31:00 - [31] Cergorach RE: CPU usage The ExeFile.exe Framework is using much more CPU since the patch. Charlie ZA
Flaming Lemming	Posted - 2007.05.24 20:41:00 - [32] Re: exploits No fix for POS bowling. Yay \o/ I'm just an Alt....but my main doesn't have a sig either. there's no such thing as bad press
Sleepkevert Amarr	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:04:00 - [33] Also, where did the overview fixes go? Is it just my mind playing tricks on me, or did they magically dissapear from the patch notes...
Zanpt	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:33:00 - [34] Originally by: Cergorach Is it me or has anyone else noticed that eve consumes more processing power than before the patch? Yes. I am running a server-grade Dual Core Xeon. Before the patch, even with six Eve windows running, CPU usage was in the 70-80% range, bumpy and constantly varying. I checked just now and CPU usage is almost a flat 100% in both cores.
Quiomi	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:17:00 - [35] What the hell does it take to do an upgrade right the 1st time???....calling it a patch upgrade with a 0.7m dl is one thing but then (not during called dt having a reboot???) that happens way to much just call a date and do your thing and for god/allah or you being icelandic pref still calling Wodan try and learn to do it during Dt or the 1st called extra DT....
Monkey Daddy	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:28:00 - [36] Two issues I was having, was purchasing a drake, insted of taking my money and giving me a drake, it was adding a buy order for the station...but still not taking my money. Second issue, 5 second spurts of lag, ever 10 seconds. Man that was bad. Though running vista home premium, athlon 64 single core, 2gb ram, I was not having the 100% CPU usage issue.
Quiomi	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:33:00 - [37] Still dont see the reason (after reading the patch notes) why an complete extra cluster reboot was in place during your called out periods which turned out to be just plain playing hours on your schedule (what the **** did you ppl do during the called out and extra called and hmm even extra called out hours?......if it aint broke!!! don;t try to fix/nerf it! if it;s broke call the hours needed to fix it....and fix it during that hours!! So plz pay back all paying users for the month may 2007 and fix what you need and for (any god you think off) periode fix it so it's fixed for atleast the periode you ppl ask for extra DT if you can't fix it during that periode atleast inform your paying customers (hmm isn;t that all non noobs......yes) what the hell is going on to give they feeling atleast you care about the ones paying your fun time (aka work for the serious ppl)
Quiomi	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:49:00 - [38] Plz keep in mind plenty of other morpg are avail plenty for free aswell..if you guys want to keep current paying customers fix it and fix it during the hours you call for it...patching takes +4 days extra?? well atleast have the balls to pay back that 4days extra
fightingblind	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:52:00 - [39] Quick question... Is the server for Jita going to be updated or changed any when Rev 2 comes out? it would be nice to go there without lag.
Monkey Daddy	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:53:00 - [40] Originally by: Quiomi Plz keep in mind plenty of other morpg are avail plenty for free aswell..if you guys want to keep current paying customers fix it and fix it during the hours you call for it...patching takes +4 days extra?? well atleast have the balls to pay back that 4days extra come on, havent you complained enough?
Quiomi	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:56:00 - [41] atm online systems is major concern (i hope...been called wrong on same earlier tho) so just hope all will be able to dp their busness soon again
Gladia Horusthu Gallente Anything Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Quiomi Plz keep in mind plenty of other morpg are avail plenty for free aswell..if you guys want to keep current paying customers fix it and fix it during the hours you call for it...patching takes +4 days extra?? well atleast have the balls to pay back that 4days extra This your first patch day, Quiomi? 'Cause this wasn't anything at all compared to many patches. No, they don't reimburse for extended downtimes or reboots. We're all assumed to have read the EULA which specifies that there may be unanticipated or unscheduled outages or other interruptions of normal gameplay. I know how addictive Eve is, left several times and keep coming back for another hit myself, but please remember that Eve is built on an old platform and TQ is under pressures that CCP hadn't anticipated back in the day, so patches and upgrades give a bit of indigestion to the game. Try my game plan for patch day: Kick back, download the mp3s of the soundtrack and play the Eve-Offline flash game (search for the appropriate threads in the box on the right-hand sidebar) and shoot some asteroids with a Minmatar shuttle with "Tomorrow's Neverending Yesterday" playing on iTunes. After putting up with computer upgrades at my state's Bureau of Motor Vehicles that resulted in statements like "We won't know how many records we lost until we have a full year's cycle of registrations processed next summer," I am more than happy to put up with delays on patch day like this. By the way, what delay was involved? Normal DT for me is 7am -8am, this was supposed to take 3 hours so it would be about 10 am. I patched at about 10:30 (got up late) and when I got home after work (about 10pm) Eve was up and running just fine. I just asked my corp, nobody has reported any problems. From what I can see, smooth as silk for patch day. And where do you get the +4 days extra? Or are you demanding reimbursement for previous patch days?
Reverof 2	Posted - 2007.05.25 03:59:00 - [43] Edited by: Reverof 2 on 25/05/2007 04:00:20 lol apart from the crash 40 mins ago - problems logging in then a message saying server off in 5 mins for 20 mind DT - other than that things are fine Oh well I have come from RF Online and you guys think you have it bad! At least you get told when servers are due to go down and at least patches do actually happen. Just fix what you need to and lets get back to space ! Reverof
Kahan Zuk	Posted - 2007.05.25 03:59:00 - [44] So deploy the patch and accept that the server is down? Would you accept that the VISA authorization server is down? I wouldn't! While I know that people complain about unexpected outages during any upgrade cycle, when you have a large customer base, you do EVERYTHING possible to mitigate the possibility of a system-wide outage. A well run operation would not experience this type of disruption on such a regular basis. In my 6 months here I have endured this type of outage on a semi-regular basis. The way it gets fixed is for the customers to complain and demand a higher level of service. So if people are satisfied with the status-quo then let them stay quiet, otherwise voice your opinion and hopefully these issues will be addressed. While the short-term economics may not validate an increased amount of spending on code/hardware, the long term benefits are a more satisfied customer which will equal greater profits in the long-term.
Jalador	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:04:00 - [45] just a quick post, whats with all the "Urgent Restarts" is it due to Eve-voice.... i wonder....=)
Aprudena Gist	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:07:00 - [46] Why is it appling this patch takes being in an "Administraor" account? I appled this in my limited user account with full access to the EVE Folder but the update failed and then corrupted game files and i had to reinstall? Do you even test non-Admin account install with access to the files?
Sam Reynolds Caldari Blue Sun Holdings Blue Sun Trust	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:28:00 - [47] Originally by: Quiomi and for god/allah or you being icelandic pref still calling Wodan try and learn to do it during Dt or the 1st called extra DT.... Amazing. I'm sure religious slurs are a great aid to the developers trying to continually improve the game for you. ON TOPIC: I've also noticed additional overhead since the patch. Is this an "issue" or a side effect of Eve Voice that we should expect going forward?
Nihnjha Myner	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:30:00 - [48] Yeah, I'm also on a trial account. From what I've seen its a great game (WHEN THE DAMN GAME WORKS). But I refuse to pay a monthly subscription to a game whos servers, in the 3 days since I D/Led the trial been down for me more than its been up. I realize theres a new patch, but for me, all it did was instead of booting me to desktop every 5 minutes, is now I cant even connect and it says "starting up 0 secs" for well over 10 minutes now. Also, some of the "devs" here seem just A LITTLE LESS THAN PROFESSIONAL. Both in getting their product to work and their replies I've seen in these forums. Then theres this little scandal I'm hearing about with one of the Devs "hacking" the game to give him and his buddies cool stuff. Doesnt sound like a company I'd trust with a credit card number even if their product DID work. -Thanks, it could have been really fun.
Aminata	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:33:00 - [49] I dont get that EVE -voice thing anyway... why bothering paying extra bucks when u can use skype for free? I use skype ever since i started EVE and it works just great, without lag.
Jalador	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:37:00 - [50] Quote: ON TOPIC: I've also noticed additional overhead since the patch. Is this an "issue" or a side effect of Eve Voice that we should expect going forward? I have always been against Eve-voice knowing that with 600ppl in Jita talking, wow man now thats lag itself, its not so bad with a team of 20 playing BF2141 or simillar but at hand and on topic why intergrade it into eve itself it should be a total seperate program so then it doesnt effect people who dont want it or use other means like TS or Vent. i cant stress enough about this it should of had a Poll or a vote or something like that and with customers (players) joining all the time there will be alot more $$$$ (hundreds of thousands) or more spent to keep up the demand with out taking a huge lag issue into account. and please dont delete this post as im sure people want and need to know exactly what how when and why situations arise. Your friendly Miner Jalador aka Jal
Jarek Davian	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:38:00 - [51] The patch was applied just fine, so I set a short duration skill (8 hours), and now it looks like the server is having issues. Any word Devs?
Janseer	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:39:00 - [52] Mmmm... Knew I should've set a longer skill. Oh well.....
Se' Tarin	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:41:00 - [53] Originally by: Nihnjha Myner Yeah, I'm also on a trial account. From what I've seen its a great game (WHEN THE DAMN GAME WORKS). But I refuse to pay a monthly subscription to a game whos servers, in the 3 days since I D/Led the trial been down for me more than its been up. I realize theres a new patch, but for me, all it did was instead of booting me to desktop every 5 minutes, is now I cant even connect and it says "starting up 0 secs" for well over 10 minutes now. Also, some of the "devs" here seem just A LITTLE LESS THAN PROFESSIONAL. Both in getting their product to work and their replies I've seen in these forums. Then theres this little scandal I'm hearing about with one of the Devs "hacking" the game to give him and his buddies cool stuff. Doesnt sound like a company I'd trust with a credit card number even if their product DID work. -Thanks, it could have been really fun. Well for alot of the things youve mentioned about scandals and a professional attitude I can offer no information other than it probably in the cases of the scandal a crude attempt at dirtying CCP's credability. As for the drops, e that it was due to the fact its a sceduled downtime. Compared to alot of other games Ive played I'd be glad to give up a day or two. Nihnjha try n stick with it, just wait for the storm cloud to blow over :)
Trader Darin Gallente Sky Transport and Production	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:45:00 - [54] Originally by: Nihnjha Myner Yeah, I'm also on a trial account. From what I've seen its a great game (WHEN THE DAMN GAME WORKS). But I refuse to pay a monthly subscription to a game whos servers, in the 3 days since I D/Led the trial been down for me more than its been up. I realize theres a new patch, but for me, all it did was instead of booting me to desktop every 5 minutes, is now I cant even connect and it says "starting up 0 secs" for well over 10 minutes now... Bla-bla-bla It funny how some ppls for 14 euro per month demand superior tech support and operative , just momentaly. Even WoW and EQ2 don't have such support and time to time they have same problems too. I hope that ppls fix out all things soon and we play again and without problem. I preffer to wait and play something else. It save brain from stress... ;) =========================== Between Light and Darkness, Road Difficult and Hard. Are able you pass it to the end?!? --- àOnly who walk on Path can reach it endà
Michael Woodard	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:46:00 - [55] That is why I pay with check it may take longer but I know that they don't have a hand in my savings account. Anyways after working five hours at Fed Ex training someone I want to come home play EVE for a little bit but what do I get Tranquility status unknown and also I needed to change a skill so it can be trained. Well I can't do that now because the server is down here is an update suggestion lets make were we can change the skill that we want to train from our Character section on this site.
Teadrinker	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:51:00 - [56] Well, I'm tired of trying to log in, so I guess I'll go to bed. As a result of this server failure/patch fiasco, I'm going to be down over 24 hours of training time. I request that I be reimbursed for this by being assigned an equivalent value of training points to be allocated by me.
Jarek Davian	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:53:00 - [57] Originally by: Teadrinker Well, I'm tired of trying to log in, so I guess I'll go to bed. As a result of this server failure/patch fiasco, I'm going to be down over 24 hours of training time. I request that I be reimbursed for this by being assigned an equivalent value of training points to be allocated by me. Unfortunately, that's not gonna happen. They said set a long skill, and they meant it. Unfortunate, but them are the breaks (I'm feeling the pain too, you aren't alone)
Trader Darin Gallente Sky Transport and Production	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:58:00 - [58] I have separate visa card to pay online games, and i go to bank every time i need pay, it not far from home, and put monney on card. Or just hold on card some money to pay 2-3 month of game. It safe and even some thing happend it not so bad to loose $15-$30 than $100 or even more. Debit Visa cost me $10 per year... Sorry for offtopic... =========================== Between Light and Darkness, Road Difficult and Hard. Are able you pass it to the end?!? --- àOnly who walk on Path can reach it endà
maximogladiator	Posted - 2007.05.25 05:11:00 - [59] Finally the server is UP!!! and running quite smoothly, let's hope it stays that way, Keep R3@L CCP!!!
Sidious Spartan	Posted - 2007.05.25 05:14:00 - [60] Thanks CCP, After 2 hours waiting for the darn thing to log in it happen, I was mining at the time and i manage to warped backwards and dock, my ore didnt go away.
Jo Nafarxx	Posted - 2007.05.25 05:26:00 - [61] .. >=) sure .. its a drag when you get some free real life time and want to fly around in space, and the game is not playing well or at all. there was a time i recall when "set a long skill" meant what it implied. overall i would imagine most of the problems in game are dealt with as well as possible.. could any imagine a reason to sandbag?? of course where i am from some stuff goes well and some stuff goes poorly. i can only imagine what it must be like in the perfect world the folks who have complained in this thread must exist. i reckon if i were that cool i would be just as intolerant .
Lord Chousse	Posted - 2007.05.25 05:45:00 - [62] Well, this is MY first post ever. I started the freebee thing almost a week ago, Friday? Something like that. And so far I'm loving the game. Yea, today has been a rollercoaster - but that's ok, I went ahead and converted the account to paying (because I wanted to initiate a courier mission and I knew that I was going to sign up anyways).. and even with the crazy day - I'm not concerned, the game is a lot of fun and I'm sure I'll get my money's worth.
Major Vincent	Posted - 2007.05.25 08:01:00 - [63] Edited by: Major Vincent on 25/05/2007 08:01:53 EDIT my question answered
Tsavong Lah Caldari Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.25 08:03:00 - [64] erm, server is down. looks like something killed the db I got a jar of dirt!
MrLaz	Posted - 2007.05.25 08:07:00 - [65] Well just for the record. I own a 200 slot ventrilo and is never seems to lag at all. I'm sure thats really not the problem with the lag. I enjoy in-game communication because it can add a little bit of tolerence to the cold space. You can turn it off and on and use it to advantage if you wanted. So stop knocking the invention.
Jalador	Posted - 2007.05.25 08:12:00 - [66] (24.5.2007 Revelations 1.4.3 successfully deployed The most recent update for EVE Online, the Revelations 1.4.3 patch, is now available. To see what changes and improvements were made, read the patch notes.) sorry guys but this is faulse advertising, look honestly tell us whats up whats wrong, when and why this isnt going to plan... why does it keep being shut down its kinda frustrating .. please any one from CCP show me the light im sure if you have any questions which, im saying you may not know the answer yourself im sure someone here does, just wanna know when it'll be sorted and you should be letting us know "That there is an ISSUE with the new patch"
Jalador	Posted - 2007.05.25 08:19:00 - [67] if that was to me about Eve-Talk sorry yes but programs have already been invented IE Vent and so on im just saying .... ##* if somethings not broken done fix it, i think someones gerbell ran out and fried the circuitboard, or some one dropped there DRpepper on the power sup, 200ppl isnt 20k cough you have no idea how much eve has and yes neopets runs well with vent =)
Ceremony Garp	Posted - 2007.05.25 09:24:00 - [68] It's possibly me being completely thick [more like, 'probable' - Ed.], or the patch isn't available for download? I'm still getting the same incompatible release message
Noxic	Posted - 2007.05.25 12:03:00 - [69] Overview bug still apparent, In-station names not updating on login, showing as neutral , local not updating. if anything its worse now. 2nd bug i noticed since patch , Caldari ships once again align off centre when appearing after jumping through a gate, this was fixed but seems this patch borked that one up too.
Oupla	Posted - 2007.05.25 13:05:00 - [70] Hello CCP, Please go back to the previous version. Don't let us with this crappy version when you go on weekend. Thanks Oupla
LeberMac Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.05.25 14:08:00 - [71] I'm a new subscriber, so this is my first patch for EVE. Are all patches like this? i.e. The patch is scheduled, delayed twice, finally available and upon 50,000 subscribers downloading and playing with the new code, the server crashes multiple times, with wacky hijinks like being warped 3 systems away, being unable to dock, being shot at by invisible 'rats, etc... This isn't really a complaint, I'm just trying to get a feel for what I should do when the next patch comes out: set a week-long skill training and go on vacation, or wait a couple hours and try again. I realize that in order for EVE to improve, patches are necessary and good things to have. -- Tequila is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
Philemon Asher Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.25 14:50:00 - [72] Originally by: Jalador (24.5.2007 Revelations 1.4.3 successfully deployed The most recent update for EVE Online, the Revelations 1.4.3 patch, is now available. To see what changes and improvements were made, read the patch notes.) sorry guys but this is faulse advertising lol, wut?
Mad Amos Minmatar	Posted - 2007.05.25 15:15:00 - [73] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: KingKenny Originally by: CCP Wrangler We haven't announced Revelations 2 deployment date yet, summer is as close as it gets for the moment. Could you narrow the Summer time frame a little, summer 2007 or summer 2008? Are we talking New Zealand summer or European Summer? Forgive me for being a tad cynical but you have missed every major expansion by a whole season or two in the past so not expecting Rev 2 to fair any better. I can almost promise you it's this century.. maybe.. smart alec. Quote: "...time has no meaning whatsoever to someone who will reliably get home from work, and spend the next six hours telling his or her spouse ôfive more minutes, honey.ö The passage of time is meaningless to someone who can spend six hours on a raid without moving. IÆm exaggerating. Time has meaning. ItÆs just that all times are ôthree weeks.ö When you tell an MMO customer ôsoon,ö it better happen within three weeks. If you say, ôin the future,ö and it hasnÆt happened in three weeks, heÆs going to raise hell on a message board about your broken promises. If you say, ôsomeday,ö hoping to put an argument to bed without killing it completely, the next argument will start in three weeks. Ditto ôeventually,ö ôwe hope,ö ônot now,ö and ôASAP.ö Go ahead. Wait a few weeks for the observer effect from this post to die down, and time it yourselves. Now, compound all of the challenges mentioned above endemic to the internet gaming industry by the fact that most of us are, ourselves, MMO customers with a three week attention span. No wonder we have trouble with time." From here: Eating Bees
Caligulus Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.05.25 20:46:00 - [74] CCP scores a 1-10 for this patch. Poor delivery, poor reliability, poor customer service informing the player base about what happened. Seriously guys, do you even test your code before it goes live? Fire your QA dept. they suck.

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