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![BlueOrca BlueOrca](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1235929007/portrait?size=64)
BlueOrca
Gallente FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas Edited by: Psyllus Ktenas on 27/05/2007 01:45:02
Originally by: BlueOrca
. . . Just leave and let me play the game that I like.
How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
Just hit that red X on the top right of your screen, maximise the EVE client and go play.
Next time pls quote my entire post. And just underline the part that you want.
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![Popsikle Popsikle](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1649211465/portrait?size=64)
Popsikle
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:54:00 -
[2342]
Originally by: Toffles
Originally by: fire 59 CCP, you have made a wonderful game which is thoroughly enjoyable to play. It has been infested with an entity who doesn't care about the community because they are there own community and will stop at nothing to kill the game it seems. Keep up the good work and don't let all teh assclowns get to you.![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
Couldn't agree more. Now if only this entity would break it's ties with CCP and stop seeking out unfair advantages from the developers maybe we could stop the torrent of people canceling their subscriptions. BoB, through cheating, has done more to hurt this game than any other alliance. One more big scandal like this and Eve is over with no one but CCP and your alliance to blame.
Im prett sure if all of Goonswarm canceled their subs, CCP could layoff all the ISD staff and GMS's they have to keep employed to handle the volumes of **** that get thrown at them because as an alliance GS cant take the fight ingame. I think laying off the probably numerous people they have to pay to keep SA members in check (both in game and out of game) is probably more then the amount of money they get from selling the GTC's to resellers who SA members buy from...
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![Paula Roscarai Paula Roscarai](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1713067575/portrait?size=64)
Paula Roscarai
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:54:00 -
[2343]
Wow, when i first came to this game i heard alot of stuff about BoB being cheaters and whatnot but i dismissed it as nerd jelousy, but the more of this stuff i read the more convinced i become that they truly ARE cheaters.
Oh well.. i guess some peoples 15 a month is worth more then others.
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![Prall Grosserbauch Prall Grosserbauch](https://images.evetech.net/characters/658042134/portrait?size=64)
Prall Grosserbauch
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:54:00 -
[2344]
Originally by: Mitch Manus
Theres no proof to suggest orange species was lying or telling the truth with that comment, and theres also no proof to suggest the second chatlog was caused by the first. He could of heard complaints in channels in-game, on irc channel that many devs and ccp members of staff visit frequently.
So it's pure coincidence that BoB are in contact with devs via MSN, BoB say they will contact a dev via MSN and immediately after they do a dev does exactly what BoB said they were going to ask them to do?
But you're right, it could have been done via ingame means, either petitions or an in game channel. It's just that apparently nobody in BoB has any logs of these ingame conversations.
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![Azerrad InExile Azerrad InExile](https://images.evetech.net/characters/179508157/portrait?size=64)
Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:54:00 -
[2345]
Originally by: Mitch Manus Ok then, an allegation. But it still doesn't stop the fact that your evidence is based on assumptions.
No, the evidence is based on chat logs and bans as well as admissions by certain members. The conclusions may be based on assumptions about that evidence. -- t20: "So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level." |
![Atreus Minmatarius Atreus Minmatarius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/612987753/portrait?size=64)
Atreus Minmatarius
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:54:00 -
[2346]
Originally by: Mitch Manus
Ok then, an allegation. But it still doesn't stop the fact that your evidence is based on assumptions.
this is prob the right time to inform you that this is not the court of law, more of a "court of puplic opinion"
what i say is my own opinion and does not represent any entity other than myself |
![raven415 raven415](https://images.evetech.net/characters/245667676/portrait?size=64)
raven415
Caldari Special Projects Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:57:00 -
[2347]
Originally by: Paula Roscarai Wow, when i first came to this game i heard alot of stuff about BoB being cheaters and whatnot but i dismissed it as nerd jelousy, but the more of this stuff i read the more convinced i become that they truly ARE cheaters.
Oh well.. i guess some peoples 15 a month is worth more then others.
just becous you read it doesnt mean its true.
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![Saori Rei Saori Rei](https://images.evetech.net/characters/274196929/portrait?size=64)
Saori Rei
Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:58:00 -
[2348]
Good lord... so many pages of finger pointing! Honestly the only thing we can do right now is wait for CCPs oficial response from this matter. Once we know that we can decide where to go from here, whether it is a proverbeal lynch mob or everything is just fine and we can get back to playing EvE.
Yes the fact that CCPs integrity is in question -again- is very very worrying.
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![Stahlregen Stahlregen](https://images.evetech.net/characters/703416248/portrait?size=64)
Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:59:00 -
[2349]
Originally by: Mitch Manus
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: Mitch Manus
Originally by: Toffles
Originally by: fire 59 CCP, you have made a wonderful game which is thoroughly enjoyable to play. It has been infested with an entity who doesn't care about the community because they are there own community and will stop at nothing to kill the game it seems. Keep up the good work and don't let all teh assclowns get to you.![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
Couldn't agree more. Now if only this entity would break it's ties with CCP and stop seeking out unfair advantages from the developers maybe we could stop the torrent of people canceling their subscriptions. BoB, through cheating, has done more to hurt this game than any other alliance. One more big scandal like this and Eve is over with no one but CCP and your alliance to blame.
No, bob arent the ones spamming the forums causing it to have to be taken down. Bob arent the ones spamming mindless assumptions around on game websites, getting bad publicity for the game.
Yeah dude, We've been over this before.
Once again, The only reason the forums were threadnoughted was to draw attention to allegations that CCP cannot police themselves.
Also it's not a mindless assumption, It's an allegation.
Allegation. Allegation. Allegation. Allegation. Allegation. Allegation. Allegation.
Allegation.
Ok then, an allegation. But it still doesn't stop the fact that your evidence is based on assumptions.
Yeah, Logical and rational assumptions.
As in: 1. Bob has had contact with ccp in the past and t20 admitted to it. 2. Screenshots which seem to imply that bob do infact have contact with CCP 3. Dianabolic and other bob members admitting to their contact with CCP and in some cases even trying to rationalise said contact.
Resulting in the Allegation being made that bob have unfair contact with CCP
So now tell me again, What the **** are you talking about? You've got nothing besides "goons spam forums" "assumptions" and some crap about what dianabolic was really trying to say when they said that they had contact with CCP emplyoees.
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![FatHed FatHed](https://images.evetech.net/characters/159665450/portrait?size=64)
FatHed
Eye of the Abyss
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:59:00 -
[2350]
Originally by: raven415
Originally by: Paula Roscarai Wow, when i first came to this game i heard alot of stuff about BoB being cheaters and whatnot but i dismissed it as nerd jelousy, but the more of this stuff i read the more convinced i become that they truly ARE cheaters.
Oh well.. i guess some peoples 15 a month is worth more then others.
just becous you read it doesnt mean its true.
But it is, it's been admitted by CCP in the past, so it is true.
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![Flaming Lemming Flaming Lemming](https://images.evetech.net/characters/669250571/portrait?size=64)
Flaming Lemming
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:59:00 -
[2351]
Originally by: raven415
Originally by: Paula Roscarai Wow, when i first came to this game i heard alot of stuff about BoB being cheaters and whatnot but i dismissed it as nerd jelousy, but the more of this stuff i read the more convinced i become that they truly ARE cheaters.
Oh well.. i guess some peoples 15 a month is worth more then others.
just becous you read it doesnt mean its true.
Just because you say it isn't doesn't mean it's not. I'm just an Alt....but my main doesn't have a sig either.
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![Psyllus Ktenas Psyllus Ktenas](https://images.evetech.net/characters/264606750/portrait?size=64)
Psyllus Ktenas
Amarr BlackHole Entertainment
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Posted - 2007.05.27 01:59:00 -
[2352]
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas Edited by: Psyllus Ktenas on 27/05/2007 01:45:02
Originally by: BlueOrca
. . . Just leave and let me play the game that I like.
How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
Just hit that red X on the top right of your screen, maximise the EVE client and go play.
Next time pls quote my entire post. And just underline the part that you want.
There is no need for that.
Again: How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
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![Sir Render Sir Render](https://images.evetech.net/characters/690563242/portrait?size=64)
Sir Render
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:00:00 -
[2353]
True. We only have the word of a BoB member. And we know what that's worth.
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![Svaha Norbu Svaha Norbu](https://images.evetech.net/characters/800036966/portrait?size=64)
Svaha Norbu
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:00:00 -
[2354]
Originally by: Mitch Manus
Ok then, an allegation. But it still doesn't stop the fact that your evidence is based on assumptions.
It's not just based on assumptions. It's based on Chatlogs, Past behavior, and openly admitting to it by BoB leaders. This constitutes evidence, but only CCP (and possibly BoB) has access to the whole truth. So the ball is in their court now.
But please continue with your self administered cranially implemented colonoscopy. Your repeated denials remind me of a certain amusing Iraqi information minister.
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![Mr Friendly Mr Friendly](https://images.evetech.net/characters/650999769/portrait?size=64)
Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:01:00 -
[2355]
This is sickening.
My large post was eaten by the forums... grr.
Anyways, regardless of the outcome of this alleged scandal, CCP needs to change their corporate model.
Many other MMO's have structures in place so that players know that if Dev X does A, Dev X gets fired. If player Y does B, player Y gets banned.
Further, given the t20 fiasco, CCP should already have fired him, made that public, and enacted a robust and transparent IA system that guarantees (to players) that Dev haxxors carry significant RL penalties.
They haven't even done that. That's stupid. He cheated... he also undermined a significant part of the Eve high-end system, and did so with a major power block. Yet, all that happened was he was moved to another department. Good God. From a player's perspective, that means CCP has zero accountability. That's not a good rep, guys. In fact, that's a very poor rep. Very poor.
FFS, if a McDonald's employee gave free food to his friends, he'd be fired very quickly. If it became public knowledge that McD was giving out free food contrary to their corporate model, they'd publish a big notice that protected the pricing and availability model they are careful to protect. In short, they would protect their corporate image by reassuring customers that their hard earned dollars were being spent to the same effect as everyone else's.
CCP needs to do this. They have not.
If they don't, they WILL bleed out more established customers, lose many new customers that only hear 'CCP are cheaters', and limit further subscriptions.
That's a stupid business model. I used to love this game, but the last 6 months of CCP screwups have made me disinterested. Frankly, I have 6 days to go on my renewal and I am avidly waiting on CCP's response to this issue before I pay for something else.
Become more accountable, transparent and trustworthy, CCP, or you won't just lose my subscription (and those of my friends), but will be left in the dust of other MMO's.
Jeez, even WoW is *perceived* to be more trustworthy than this.
Level out your sandbox, noObs. NOW.
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 09/02/2007 23:20:58 But come on, at least give the devs a chance to fire t20. ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
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![Popsikle Popsikle](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1649211465/portrait?size=64)
Popsikle
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:01:00 -
[2356]
Originally by: Prall Grosserbauch
Originally by: Mitch Manus
Theres no proof to suggest orange species was lying or telling the truth with that comment, and theres also no proof to suggest the second chatlog was caused by the first. He could of heard complaints in channels in-game, on irc channel that many devs and ccp members of staff visit frequently.
So it's pure coincidence that BoB are in contact with devs via MSN, BoB say they will contact a dev via MSN and immediately after they do a dev does exactly what BoB said they were going to ask them to do?
But you're right, it could have been done via ingame means, either petitions or an in game channel. It's just that apparently nobody in BoB has any logs of these ingame conversations.
So if OS came up with some petition logs, you would take that as evidence because thats the evidence your using? If that happened, and OS did open a petition to get rid of the reporter, can we expect an apology from the SA members that took the forums down, and started yet another witch hunt? Can we expect that apology to be circulated thru the MMO websites, can we expect the truth to be circulated thru the MMO websites, or are you SA guys only here to cause harm to the community, and when it turns out you were wrong, and there was no fire, can we expect you to be responsible and mature?
excuse me while I laugh my ass off at the last question.
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![FatHed FatHed](https://images.evetech.net/characters/159665450/portrait?size=64)
FatHed
Eye of the Abyss
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:02:00 -
[2357]
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas Edited by: Psyllus Ktenas on 27/05/2007 01:45:02
Originally by: BlueOrca
. . . Just leave and let me play the game that I like.
How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
Just hit that red X on the top right of your screen, maximise the EVE client and go play.
Next time pls quote my entire post. And just underline the part that you want.
There is no need for that.
Again: How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
By being ********? Yeah, that must be it. it couldn't be cheating, no, cheating doesn't hold us back, it propels you forward.
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![Stahlregen Stahlregen](https://images.evetech.net/characters/703416248/portrait?size=64)
Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:02:00 -
[2358]
Originally by: Popsikle
Originally by: Toffles
Originally by: fire 59 CCP, you have made a wonderful game which is thoroughly enjoyable to play. It has been infested with an entity who doesn't care about the community because they are there own community and will stop at nothing to kill the game it seems. Keep up the good work and don't let all teh assclowns get to you.![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
Couldn't agree more. Now if only this entity would break it's ties with CCP and stop seeking out unfair advantages from the developers maybe we could stop the torrent of people canceling their subscriptions. BoB, through cheating, has done more to hurt this game than any other alliance. One more big scandal like this and Eve is over with no one but CCP and your alliance to blame.
Im prett sure if all of Goonswarm canceled their subs, CCP could layoff all the ISD staff and GMS's they have to keep employed to handle the volumes of **** that get thrown at them because as an alliance GS cant take the fight ingame. I think laying off the probably numerous people they have to pay to keep SA members in check (both in game and out of game) is probably more then the amount of money they get from selling the GTC's to resellers who SA members buy from...
So then why are you trying to keep stirring **** in a thread that is in your best interested to have stagnate and disappear off the forums?
Oh and again with the baseless attacks about us using GTCs? Come on dude, We're not the ones in bed with the guys who make the godamn game here.
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![BlueOrca BlueOrca](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1235929007/portrait?size=64)
BlueOrca
Gallente FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:03:00 -
[2359]
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas Edited by: Psyllus Ktenas on 27/05/2007 01:45:02
Originally by: BlueOrca
. . . Just leave and let me play the game that I like.
How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
Just hit that red X on the top right of your screen, maximise the EVE client and go play.
Next time pls quote my entire post. And just underline the part that you want.
There is no need for that.
Again: How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
I like to read the forums and play, but now I can't play because there is so much to read.
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![Stahlregen Stahlregen](https://images.evetech.net/characters/703416248/portrait?size=64)
Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:07:00 -
[2360]
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas Edited by: Psyllus Ktenas on 27/05/2007 01:45:02
Originally by: BlueOrca
. . . Just leave and let me play the game that I like.
How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
Just hit that red X on the top right of your screen, maximise the EVE client and go play.
Next time pls quote my entire post. And just underline the part that you want.
There is no need for that.
Again: How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
I like to read the forums and play, but now I can't play because there is so much to read.
Then don't read it, Especially if it pains you as much as you say it does. Why am i telling you what you want to do?
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![Reifahal Reifahal](https://images.evetech.net/characters/985990732/portrait?size=64)
Reifahal
Gallente Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:08:00 -
[2361]
Edited by: Reifahal on 27/05/2007 02:08:13
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas Edited by: Psyllus Ktenas on 27/05/2007 01:45:02
Originally by: BlueOrca
. . . Just leave and let me play the game that I like.
How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
Just hit that red X on the top right of your screen, maximise the EVE client and go play.
Next time pls quote my entire post. And just underline the part that you want.
There is no need for that.
Again: How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
I like to read the forums and play, but now I can't play because there is so much to read.
lol nice one - ffs players of eve - play the game - i dont get any fecking ships nor any other advantage when playing. So wipe off those tears - fight - do what eve was meant to be - pvp. U want small gangs - join the fun - u say we're ebil - join the fight - but stop fecking whining about things bob members never seen and u've never seen. Deal with the time beeing - do sumthing or start the hulk production. Your choice - not the devs, bob's or anyone else's. JUST YOURS!!!!
Have fun guys ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
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![raven415 raven415](https://images.evetech.net/characters/245667676/portrait?size=64)
raven415
Caldari Special Projects Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:09:00 -
[2362]
Originally by: Svaha Norbu
Originally by: Mitch Manus
Ok then, an allegation. But it still doesn't stop the fact that your evidence is based on assumptions.
It's not just based on assumptions. It's based on Chatlogs, Past behavior, and openly admitting to it by BoB leaders. This constitutes evidence, but only CCP (and possibly BoB) has access to the whole truth. So the ball is in their court now.
But please continue with your self administered cranially implemented colonoscopy. Your repeated denials remind me of a certain amusing Iraqi information minister.
a bob member might say something to play with opponets minds.
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![BlueOrca BlueOrca](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1235929007/portrait?size=64)
BlueOrca
Gallente FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:09:00 -
[2363]
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas Edited by: Psyllus Ktenas on 27/05/2007 01:45:02
Originally by: BlueOrca
. . . Just leave and let me play the game that I like.
How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
Just hit that red X on the top right of your screen, maximise the EVE client and go play.
Next time pls quote my entire post. And just underline the part that you want.
There is no need for that.
Again: How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
I like to read the forums and play, but now I can't play because there is so much to read.
Then don't read it, Especially if it pains you as much as you say it does. Why am i telling you what you want to do?
Yes, why do you tell me what to do?![Question](/images/icon_question.gif)
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![ghosttr ghosttr](https://images.evetech.net/characters/168453585/portrait?size=64)
ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:10:00 -
[2364]
I think a reason that this issue is bigger this time is that CCP confirmed that cheating had occurred, and a dev had given bob some very valuable t2 bpos. And not action was taken whatsoever, bob even kept their ill gotten bpos!
The cheating issue is one thing, but I think the players of eve dont want bob to get off freely a second time, it was wrong to the bob off the first time. And there is no way inhell bob should get off this time if these accusations are true. (im talking about the ones using their 'friendship' with the devs to get preferential treatment.)
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![Prall Grosserbauch Prall Grosserbauch](https://images.evetech.net/characters/658042134/portrait?size=64)
Prall Grosserbauch
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:10:00 -
[2365]
Edited by: Prall Grosserbauch on 27/05/2007 02:11:12
Originally by: Popsikle
So if OS came up with some petition logs, you would take that as evidence because thats the evidence your using? If that happened, and OS did open a petition to get rid of the reporter, can we expect an apology from the SA members that took the forums down, and started yet another witch hunt? Can we expect that apology to be circulated thru the MMO websites, can we expect the truth to be circulated thru the MMO websites, or are you SA guys only here to cause harm to the community, and when it turns out you were wrong, and there was no fire, can we expect you to be responsible and mature?
Somehow I don't think this is an issue we'll ever have to worry about but if it were to ever come about I hearby pledge to the entire Eve community that I would pay my own way to Fanfest, dress up in a fursuit and let Siddy have his wicked way with me.
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![Leodeus Leodeus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/829416837/portrait?size=64)
Leodeus
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:11:00 -
[2366]
Originally by: raven415
Originally by: Paula Roscarai Wow, when i first came to this game i heard alot of stuff about BoB being cheaters and whatnot but i dismissed it as nerd jealousy, but the more of this stuff i read the more convinced i become that they truly ARE cheaters.
Oh well.. i guess some peoples 15 a month is worth more then others.
just because you read it doesn't mean its true.
Yeah, I guess someone Photoshop'd all those screen shots too. And CCP created a special thread for this topic to be discussed, so I'm sure they did that because they know there is no merit to it whatsoever.
No one needs to tell me to 'just stop playing' - my account has already been canceled. To give money to a company you cannot trust is just stupid - it's just a game. Find a new one if this one makes you unhappy, and hit them where it counts - in the wallet.
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![Bi Tor Bi Tor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/742880601/portrait?size=64)
Bi Tor
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:12:00 -
[2367]
Originally by: Mitch Manus
Originally by: Prall Grosserbauch
Quote:
[ 2007.03.20 06:30:15 ] Orange Species > isd reporters are not to interfere with gameplay [ 2007.03.20 06:30:22 ] Orange Species > that includes getting too close [ 2007.03.20 06:30:25 ] Orange Species > to our ships [ 2007.03.20 06:30:32 ] D4kkon > petition her [ 2007.03.20 06:30:57 ] Orange Species > nah no petition [ 2007.03.20 06:31:00 ] Orange Species > msn chat is enough
Quote:
Admiral_Chamrajnagar: ok anyone know an ISD named rekan? Macayle: why? [IC]Raekhan: I'm right here. Admiral_Chamrajnagar: you need to leave that system Admiral_Chamrajnagar: you are making an ass of yourself Admiral_Chamrajnagar: and of ccp
Theres no proof to suggest orange species was lying or telling the truth with that comment, and theres also no proof to suggest the second chatlog was caused by the first. He could of heard complaints in channels in-game, on irc channel that many devs and ccp members of staff visit frequently.
Lots of Ifs and Buts but no definitve evidence to suggest Bob used a private line of communication direct to CCP to rectify this problem.![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
I would like to find proof for you but since I have not been able to find proof of your existence Mitch, I have chosen to give up. There will be no more proof then the proof that this forum is unaltered.
Bite Me!
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![Mr Friendly Mr Friendly](https://images.evetech.net/characters/650999769/portrait?size=64)
Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:12:00 -
[2368]
Originally by: BlueOrca You don't like what is happening now? You do not like CPP and EVE? Do you hate BOB? Do you think this game is not faire?
Stop posting and just cancel your subscription! Sell everything you have, give your ISK to a noob and leave!
I will not miss you! Just leave and let me play the game that I like.
Actually, since I have paid.. that's right... PAID hundreds of dollars to play I think I'm entitled as much as anyone else to comment.
So, allegations of Dev misconduct, admissions from members of major alliances, proven fixing of certain high-end bpo's etc. All of these topics are ripe for comment and need further explanation. Or would you rather all the people with LEGITIMATE complaints to unsubscribe, so that the cheaters can play by themselves?
It may yet come to that, but in the meantime I want to remain in game and have my concerns dealt with.
After all, I DO pay for access, and I think my grievances are legitimate.
Why don't you leave?
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 09/02/2007 23:20:58 But come on, at least give the devs a chance to fire t20. ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
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![BlueOrca BlueOrca](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1235929007/portrait?size=64)
BlueOrca
Gallente FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Leodeus
Originally by: raven415
Originally by: Paula Roscarai Wow, when i first came to this game i heard alot of stuff about BoB being cheaters and whatnot but i dismissed it as nerd jealousy, but the more of this stuff i read the more convinced i become that they truly ARE cheaters.
Oh well.. i guess some peoples 15 a month is worth more then others.
just because you read it doesn't mean its true.
Yeah, I guess someone Photoshop'd all those screen shots too. And CCP created a special thread for this topic to be discussed, so I'm sure they did that because they know there is no merit to it whatsoever.
No one needs to tell me to 'just stop playing' - my account has already been canceled. To give money to a company you cannot trust is just stupid - it's just a game. Find a new one if this one makes you unhappy, and hit them where it counts - in the wallet.
Good for you. Can we have more like him?
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![Stahlregen Stahlregen](https://images.evetech.net/characters/703416248/portrait?size=64)
Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas
Originally by: BlueOrca
Originally by: Psyllus Ktenas Edited by: Psyllus Ktenas on 27/05/2007 01:45:02
Originally by: BlueOrca
. . . Just leave and let me play the game that I like.
How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
Just hit that red X on the top right of your screen, maximise the EVE client and go play.
Next time pls quote my entire post. And just underline the part that you want.
There is no need for that.
Again: How exactly are we holding you back from playing the game you like so much?
I like to read the forums and play, but now I can't play because there is so much to read.
Then don't read it, Especially if it pains you as much as you say it does. Why am i telling you what you want to do?
Yes, why do you tell me what to do?![Question](/images/icon_question.gif)
Going out on a limb with this one, but is it because your corporation actually tried to sue one of our members over infiltrating your forums. Like for real? As in you are hear by ordered to stand trial in the case of finfleet versus internet goon spy? Like with lawyers and everything? Did i actually get that right or was it all a misunderstanding?
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