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Ezra
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Posted - 2004.01.09 16:09:00 -
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IIRC Bookmark jumping was going to removed in castor, so please bear with them.....
Not an alt and TomB said that in a CSM chat a while back that I was part of. Also all thoose insta-jump gates were to be removed as well....
We just have to wait for the warp field disruptions to be put back on gates and then all those with bookmarks will start to whine :)
It was decided for the purposes of reducing travel time in most cases not to put in the static warp disruptors at gates.
But it is planned to "backport" the player-deployable warp disruptors from Shiva back to Castor. Originally the timetable for this was a few days after Castor, I've heard now it's planned for late January I think.
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Ezra Cornell
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BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2004.01.09 16:43:00 -
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This is all bullsh*t. |
pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.09 17:40:00 -
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Why don't you just camp the other side of the gate then?
Unloaking to warping leaves enough of a gap for a handily placed frigate to lock and warp jam.
Gate to gate jumping is too inconsistent.
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.01.09 17:42:00 -
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lol @ carebear pirates.
It's not our fault that you're too thick to work out how to counter bookmark jumping - now perhaps you'll have to be slightly more inventive than "sit by a gate and harass passing indys", which is the ultimate in laziness from pirates - and something that the Eve universe could do without. Start using your brains, as the better the pirates, the more interesting Eve is.
:)
Pirates benefit from instajump bookmarks just as much as everyone else. They're still retarded.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.01.09 17:53:00 -
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"can think of at least 2 ways to beat insta-jump bookmarks to stargates."
(Joshuah Calvert)-Everlasting Vendetta
Yes, Exploits and Lag.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.01.09 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: McWatt on 09/01/2004 19:20:39
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bookmarks kill blockades.
even an indy will break through all the time.
this is bad for the game.
bookmarks should give an advantage, but not like this.
Want some cheese with that whine?
Blockades are a deadly pain in the rear. AFAIC the only way round them is either have a large escort (too expensive) or bookmarks.
All I'm hearing hear is whaa whaa whaa it's tough being a bad guy. Grow a set. 
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hah <hands him the 'GPB Spot the whiners' award>
can t spot a whine in my post, just stating the facts.
insta jumps are bad for the game.
and who ever believes that we ll see warpdisrupters this month has more faith than i do in this company. (remember the 2-3 days promise before chrismas???)
and of course it isn t an exploit, just another stupid feature.
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Sinikad
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Posted - 2004.01.09 19:24:00 -
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Ridiculous post, and im pretty sure you were the one in an indy a couple days ago gathering pirate loot in pf-345 and fd-mlj when i was bookmarking them in a shuttle.
First : For the guy that said people should have to fight their way through a blockade and get through only if they are strong enough - If you can't camp that choke 24/7, and thus *prevent bookmarking in the first place*, you and your corp or alliance aren't powerful enough to 'own' it. When this game becomes totally about brute strength and not about using your brain, there will be no reason for new players to join and little reason for old players to stay. Pure strength in this game is about skill points and ship type, and obviously any new player will never catch up in skill points.
Second : For the rats that block the chokes around pf-345, try using your map and hunting elsewhere. If you camp the same spot all the time, you can count on people finding a way around you.
If ccp makes it so there is *no* way around you at all, then there will be no more reason to play. There is no way in hell im going to sit in empire space and mine scordite while whacking 2 and 4k npc rats constantly, what is the point of that.
The occasional intelligent blockader or pc rat makes running the blockades much more interesting.
My only reservation about bm is that people should not be able to copy them. That means you have to take some risk to gain the reward.
-Sinik
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.01.09 19:57:00 -
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Ridiculous post, (...)
First : For the guy that said people should have to fight their way through a blockade and get through only if they are strong enough - If you can't camp that choke 24/7, and thus *prevent bookmarking in the first place*, you and your corp or alliance aren't powerful enough to 'own' it. When this game becomes totally about brute strength and not about using your brain, there will be no reason for new players to join and little reason for old players to stay. Pure strength in this game is about skill points and ship type, and obviously any new player will never catch up in skill points.
truely, a ridiculous post. assuming someone could hold a system 24/7 against someone who just needs to click "add bookmark" is among the weirdest thoughts i ever heard.
and as you point out, as long as copying is around ... (and this will not go, as it is about the only tool we have for those fabulous "player driven events")
btw, even i think that a dedicated frigate should be able to break a blockade. at the moment every hauler can!
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If ccp makes it so there is *no* way around you at all, then there will be no more reason to play. There is no way in hell im going to sit in empire space and mine scordite while whacking 2 and 4k npc rats constantly, what is the point of that.
-Sinik
the way around is fight .
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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2004.01.09 20:08:00 -
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lol its called tactics and good for them
talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.01.10 23:22:00 -
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lol its called tactics and good for them
did you call JIC tactics as well?
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Lucas Bowman
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:39:00 -
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Oh shut up! Ships are crawling along now, takes hours to get anywhere, and all you can do is belly ache cause people aren't lining up to be killed by you! You want action, go take on a pirate or pirate hunter and leave the unarmed or light combat pilots alone if you want killing action.
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Crypt
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:48:00 -
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Miners have to hunt good belts to mine, npc farmers have to hunt good spawns to kill, traders have to make find and keep good routes, why should pirates be able to sit on their lazy behinds and not have to do any kind of work in thier profession of choice?
Camping gates and not doing anything to make your isk other than killing indies is too easy.
I'd recommend ya'll stop whining and get off your lazy behinds and actually go and hunt your prey like someone else had mentioned.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.11 01:51:00 -
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The pirate's gripe is legitimate, but they're shooting the wrong target. Bookmarks should not be nerfed: warp disruptor units should be brought in ASAP, so that the pirates can nerf bookmarks where they're at and the rest of us can still use them.
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:06:00 -
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Why don't you just camp the other side of the gate then?
Unloaking to warping leaves enough of a gap for a handily placed frigate to lock and warp jam.
cause even if u in an frigate, u never going to lock my battleship leaving in about 2 secs after I(me&myship) load the system...
activate a MWD during loading, and the cycle is jsut about timed to deactivate after warp is started... so when i loose the speed from the MWD and then my speed is far over 80%.... bum, insta warp, away from gate...
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.01.11 09:45:00 -
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Miners have to hunt good belts to mine, npc farmers have to hunt good spawns to kill, traders have to make find and keep good routes, why should pirates be able to sit on their lazy behinds and not have to do any kind of work in thier profession of choice?
Camping gates and not doing anything to make your isk other than killing indies is too easy.
I'd recommend ya'll stop whining and get off your lazy behinds and actually go and hunt your prey like someone else had mentioned.
lol. finding a good mining belt is so difficult, a lot of ppl simply stay in their starting system. or did they find the perfect belt there???
you re pirate experiences is clearly from second or third hand (or only "passive"?). why not get a grip, earn those easy isks the lazy way yourself?
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