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Tecknoblaze Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.05.27 23:03:00 - [31] I say we nerf all channels but local. That way there will be no more privacy and everyone will know what everyone else says to each other.
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.05.27 23:03:00 - [32] Originally by: Gutsani You dont need good arguments, just alot of people replying to your thread to get it changed yay, one more reply (becasue the bigger the thread...) Highsec POS labs with no risk of scamming
chiefyuk Amarr Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.05.27 23:04:00 - [33] Originally by: Tecknoblaze I say we nerf all channels but local. That way there will be no more privacy and everyone will know what everyone else says to each other. /Signed ------------------------------------------------ You can kill the protester but you cant kill the protest ------------------------------------------------
Ghost Baron The Camarilla Exchange	Posted - 2007.05.27 23:05:00 - [34] Originally by: Tecknoblaze I say we nerf all channels but local. That way there will be no more privacy and everyone will know what everyone else says to each other. /signed
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.05.27 23:16:00 - [35] /signed Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit on the forums. -Darth Patches
Gutsani Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.05.28 20:27:00 - [36] whine whine bumpwhine whine whine ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Nanobotter Mk2	Posted - 2007.05.28 21:26:00 - [37] The game was designed too poorly to allow the nerfing or removal of local. There is no defense in eve for people doing anything that isnt pvp, systems are far to smallthe average systme has what maybe 8 places people might be and thanks to warping people drop right on top of you instantly. Local is the only warning systme in the game atm, and it is badly needed.
Gutsani Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:41:00 - [38] Originally by: Gutsani whine whine bumpwhine whine whine ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
VinceNoir Amarr Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:57:00 - [39] Originally by: War Bear Originally by: Gutsani Originally by: Shiguni Jhi It's a ridiculous argument - removing local only screws the newbies and benefits the pirates/gankers. Would love to make it easier for you to cause chaos but honestly, we don't need the aggrevation. nerfing speed ships only benefits blobs and nerfs pirates/gankers nerfing cloaking ships only benefits blobs and nerfs pirates/gankers nerfing probing (of mission runners) only benefits noobs and nerfs pirates/gankers and then i'm not even talking about the ecm and other ewar nerfs. we also have the upcomming nos nerf, but that will only ** over the amarr recon ships .. we have seen worse. oh and afaik, they also plan to nerf logoffski, then small gangs are completely screwed when they get blobbed. its time that they all learn to adapt for a change, its time WE get a buff rather then a nerf. i said in the nerf cloaking thread that if they considered nerfing cloaking i would make a whine thread about local. here i am. Christ, where to start with all this drivel. - Speed ships (Nanophoons, Domis etc) got a nerf because battleships were going as fast or faster than interceptors. If you honestly think an untackleable BS is fine then I would love to have some of what you are smoking. - Nerfing cloaking doesn't nerf any one side or another. Frankly pirates should love this as cloaked NPC'ers will be able to get tracked down now. If you're in a cloaking gate camp gang you'll have to adjust just like the rest of us. NO ship in game, cloaked or uncloaked should have immunity. It's called balance, look it up. - haven't read up on the mission running thing so I can't comment on it yet. - ECM was the "I WIN" button in Eve. It got to the point that every ship was being fitted with it and instead of having fights you had ewar contests. Who could lock who faster and get them jammed. I don't know about you but I prefer to shoot my targets with rounds. ECM still works, its just not godly the way it used to be. - NOS nerf? Got link? Oh and if you are seriously complaining about the logoffski getting a nerf then your mentality towards metagaming is the problem. I bet your the first guy to * when a target of yours logs off on you too right? Do the rest of the universe a favor and emorage-quit now while you're ahead. Oh and to your original point. Local has a purpose. While it would be nice to have the element of surprise there's also a serious down side to removing it. Fun. Having to send scouts to every system in and around your path and scan down any possible hostiles over and over as you repeat the jump, scan, drop probe cycle slows down gameplay to a stupidly boring level. Instead of being able to travel a region looking for a fight you have to double or triple the amount of time to do the same thing. If you want a slower paced game then by all means keep ranting. I for one think Eve is slow paced enough without having to go through the paces of scanning each and every system along my route for possible targets. But what do I know. I mean pirates and gankers should have the rule of the roost. This. Local is fine. Originally by:** "Shanda Captison" Vince, you can't even spell ECM m8
sesanti Minmatar Universal Exports Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:03:00 - [40] /signed. I for once would welcome this change in open arms. It would be one of the best changes in EVE ever! _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... don't mind the portrait>
Meepie	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:09:00 - [41] Nerfing local would be a bad move for all in EVE. It will backfire on the yarring pirates that can't think 5 minutes ahead of themselves and realise even less people will go into low sec if it happened.
annoing Amarr MisFunk Inc. Frontline.	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:59:00 - [42] Originally by: Gutsani Since whining is the way to get things changed in this game Want cheese with that whine? ----------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:39:00 - [43] Originally by: Shiguni Jhi It's a ridiculous argument - removing local only screws the newbies and benefits the pirates/gankers. Would love to make it easier for you to cause chaos but honestly, we don't need the aggrevation. sorry 6month old+ carebears do not count as newbies ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:01:00 - [44] Do not nerf local in any way. When the recent change came to show blue plus signs and red minus signs on local members, I thought it was the greatest invention since sliced bread. Prior to that, I had to look up each new member and add them to my address book to show who was freindly and who was hostile. This also meant, of course, that I actually had no 'Buddy' list...it was all enemies. A lot of people did the same thing so that we could identify people. Those who want local nerfed seem to be Pirates only. I know of no Industralist or Miner that wants this. All PVP'rs count hostiles on local. Regardless of whether I'm attacking or defending, I want to know numbers in system. Since there would be some way to scan local if they did indeed nerf it, I literally don't see the point. For example, if it is made so that you can use a scanner, probe, etc to check local then what is the point in nerfing it to begin with? You just want me to push more buttons? And then you want me to die if I don't push those buttons every few min? That would just be stupid. Nerfing local is a whine started by Piewrat Griefers cuz they want easy kills. Do not nerf local!
BlackHorizon Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:10:00 - [45] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 29/05/2007 17:11:29 /signed NERF LOCAL! Remove local totally, or make it delayed updating. And people need to stop repeating this drivel and UTTER NONSENSE that it will make low-sec/0.0 devoid of targets. Yes it will make low-sec/0.0 more dangerous for prey, but so what? Eve's economy is player driven -- eventually the reward to risk ratio will balance itself after the local nerf so that GREED WILL drive carebears/prey back into 0.0/low-sec. NERF LOCAL!
Piotr Anatolev Gallente The Geriatrics	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:10:00 - [46] Ever since that day way back, in augost '04, I ve never quite come to understnad why the need for a local have not been worked around by ccp. As I understand, and have heard it from some old timers, local were never meant to stay originaly. I say pick up that notion again CCP!
Drunk Driver Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:12:00 - [47] /signed Remove local. It'll make space bigger.
Raketefrau Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:15:00 - [48] No, you shouldn't don't please not remove it.
Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:20:00 - [49] its more of a question of when rather than how. and perhaps what will come to replace it a means of intelligence-gathering and situational awareness.
elchief Dark Knights of Deneb	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:29:00 - [50] yup do away with local...
OneSock Silentia Mortalis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:36:00 - [51] /me undocks to find himself in clone bay as the hostile gang camped outside station has just blown me away because I had no clue they were there. (no local). If local was nerfed to show only people who chat, then you really need some in station scanner to tell you who's outside. Or maybe with "walking in stations" they could put in some windows so you can have a quick look before you undock
Gutsani Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:57:00 - [52] Originally by: OneSock /me undocks to find himself in clone bay as the hostile gang camped outside station has just blown me away because I had no clue they were there. (no local). If local was nerfed to show only people who chat, then you really need some in station scanner to tell you who's outside. Or maybe with "walking in stations" they could put in some windows so you can have a quick look before you undock - you undock seeing alot and redock - you ask your 3500 alliance mates to check whats outside the station - you undock all together and wtfpwn em - you use an instaundock really, keep bringing excuses; but the only valid one is that the current scanning system sucks... ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
StuckAtTheLock	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:05:00 - [53] Remove Local! Stick consti in it's place. Oveur said local should be a method to chat, not a tactical tool. Intel is all local is about nowadays, I actually can't recall the last time somebody really "chatted" in 0.0 local.
BlackHorizon Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb	Posted - 2007.05.29 20:09:00 - [54] The constellation "local" is idea is far worse than the current local as it would give people several-jump warnings to incoming predators. Remove local entirely or make it delayed by 5-10 minutes+, but please, no, constellation chat/local.
Sebastien LeReparteur Minmatar SpaceTravelers Freelance Corp TALIONIS ALLIANCE	Posted - 2007.05.29 20:12:00 - [55] nerf local we have system scanners and probe already ----------- It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone...
Judas Lonestar Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 20:14:00 - [56] My ship has a built in scanner??
TrulyKosh Solo for UNCLE Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 23:47:00 - [57] agreed, nerf local! only those who have sov in a system should be able to see who is coming and going. let the neutrals and pirates go blind ... it is their wish, after all I only invest in businesses that even a fool can run. Because some day a fool will. (Warren Buffett)
Chelone	Posted - 2007.05.30 00:10:00 - [58] Nerf everything equally! Equal nerfs for equal smurfs!
ghosttr Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 00:20:00 - [59] Edited by: ghosttr on 30/05/2007 00:19:00 Originally by: TrulyKosh agreed, nerf local! only those who have sov in a system should be able to see who is coming and going. let the neutrals and pirates go blind ... it is their wish, after all Good idea, my alliance owns the system and therefore the access to local chat. They don't want local so take it way from them I bet that after a week they would be whining to bring local back. Make Mining Better
Snake Jankins Minmatar Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.30 00:53:00 - [60] Edited by: Snake Jankins on 30/05/2007 00:52:09 /signed I'd like the idea of a passive and active scanner and the other ideas in this post: If we nerf local ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.'

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