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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 14:19:00 -
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All of this is soo sad... for the people that love CCP and EVE that is... and for CCP, they really really do not deserve this kind of crap. They really don't. And the fact that people are still thinking that this is some huge cover up tells a helluvalot more about them then it does about CCP. Or BoB for that matter.
Start enjoying this game, instead of being angry about losing it.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 14:30:00 -
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No you're brainwashed by goons and disgruntled ex-volunteers... a much better source then professionals that earn their living with this game... MUCH MUCH better......
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 14:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Gegi Wau
Originally by: Mister Spanky
I think this is a good opportunity to remind everyone that when T20 was petitioned for being a Dev in BoB (by a BoB member, no less) he responded by looking up the petition on the server files and passing the information on to the BoB leadership. Fortunately the guy made his complaint on an Alt, otherwise I shudder to think what would have happened to him.
That doesn't even make sense. You'd think a dev would have ways and means to find out who was said alt's main char? No?
If you look at the blog... the petition shows all 3 characters on a account... so that would only make sense if the alt was on different account. And afaik ( think Kieron posted it somewhere ) not even devs can link accounts to one another. Only billing department can, something like that.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ernesto Hoost
Originally by: Gariuys
No you're brainwashed by goons and disgruntled ex-volunteers... a much better source then professionals that earn their living with this game... MUCH MUCH better......
I think CCP's attitude in all this has been anything but professional.
And because an ISD guy wanted to be straight and not bend over to BOB...he is now "disgruntled" 
Keep sweeping it under the rug, I will leave you to you the mess you made now
ktnxbye
Lol... have you read anything about that ISD guy... not bend over to BOB... he didn't follow orders, had multiple complaints made against him. But apparently anything anyone but CCP puts on the internet is true, but CCP are lying. Makes total sense.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 15:23:00 -
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And a succesfull bussiness also doesn't kiss the feet of people that try to ruin their company.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 16:56:00 -
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People don't like goonswarm... Oh my gosh... that's like so unfair, they're such honourable and lovely people, not complete asses that think the world revolves around them at all... no sir. They're honest and well spoken and show a lot of respect for the developers of this game.
That's the gist of it, they slandered CCP, they plastered that slander across the internet, they ruined a perfectly fine holiday weekend, brought down the forums even if it was indirectly. And the've caused quite a lot of economic and emotional damage to CCP.
You know what, if there are people at CCP that hate the goons ( not all I suppose just those that where involved and/or supported this situation ) they're for sure not alone in that hatred.
Cause for some, attacking a company that you've supported for the past years, a company that's filled with people that have nothing but love for their own creation, and are the absolute best in the bussiness in listenig to their costumers is a good reason to show some hate alright.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tempus Fugitive
Originally by: CCP kieron
Originally by: Fofalus
Also the response to the deleted petition a separate issue or is just being buried with this one?
It is not possible for a GM or Developer to delete petitions. Those tools quite simply, do not exist. Claims of petitions being deleted are therefore utter fabrication and completely groundless.
Sorry if this has already been brought up, but I didn't see a retraction so I assumed this claim still stood. As a player with petitions that have been deleted, I beg to differ. Also, if this is true that petitions can not be deleted, then why does the in-game petition window say this in every catagory? -
"Please be advised that petitions filed here regarding other issues than ... will be deleted and repeated attempts may lead to an official warning."
Cause there is a huge difference between flagging a petition as "removed" and actually completely removing it from the database. I seriously doubt petitions are ever completely removed from the database, just flagged as "solved" or "wrong category". But to you as a player flagging a petition as removed or actually deleting it from the database would look like the exact same thing.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tempus Fugitive
Originally by: Gariuys
Cause there is a huge difference between flagging a petition as "removed" and actually completely removing it from the database. I seriously doubt petitions are ever completely removed from the database, just flagged as "solved" or "wrong category". But to you as a player flagging a petition as removed or actually deleting it from the database would look like the exact same thing.
My point stands that saying "Petitions can not be deleted" is dodging the question. Call them deleted, call them unanswered, or call them "we don't give a rat's a** about your problems", CCP routinely leaves these petitions unanswered.
In my case (and this was so long ago I don't honetly even remember the issue), a simple reply that my petition was filed under the wrong catagory would have enabled me to file under the correct catagory instead of getting frustrated and filing under EVERY catagory just so I didn't miss one. In the case of DS1's CEO, a simple answer that there was not enough information on-hand so the petition would be escalated would probably have done a lot to ease his mind. Instead, CCP chooses to "delete" petitions (their own words) and leave their customers frustrated.
Now, I recognize that's its possible the CEO of DS1 is making this petition up. I tend to doubt it. I think it's more likely that he tried to file the petition and it never took (don't ask me how, stranger things have happened). This would account for his believing it was deleted. Yet with CCPs tendancy to "delete" petitions I find it even more likely that his story is exactly as he has told it - that it was filed, and summarily ignored or "deleted".
I have two suggestions:
1) Get rid of petition catagories and use a router like your competition does. If that's completely out of the question, then use a forwarding system so if a petition is filed under the wrong catagory the customer isn't left standing there wondering what is wrong with you people (personal experience).
2) Do away with "deleting" petitions. Everyone deserves an answer.
Hmm, never had a petition go unanswered. had it time out, which required a reply saying that it was still a problem, but never ever has a one of my petitions gone unanswered. And filling a petition under every single category... should get you a serious ***** slap for clogging up the customer support system.
that he didn't receive a answer ( quickly enough ) well that's possible, and a great show on how good the GM's are at juding that sort of thing, on the other hand it isn't exactly like it was a really weird thing to happen, GM's and devs do this sort of thing all the time, there was a petition, and devs don't exactly have 3 weeks to spend on one tiny little factory job. They have a lot on their plates already. And one of the DS1 members did file a petition. Which explains why noone really thought that the CEOs petition was something worth immediate attention. ( if it exists )
Second point is quite simple. Since CCP is obviously lying and being cheating whatevers. Why is it so easy to believe someone you never met, and don't know compaired to CCP. Why is his story more believable? Cause there's absolutlely no logical reason for you to think that it is more believable.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kata Amentis
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The only real question in your post was answered in the last dev blog, so I suggest you try reading that first.
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