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Rikeka Amarr Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.05.30 18:41:00 - [31] whistles away "I am matter... I am anti-matter... I can see your past... I can see your future... I consume time... And I will consume you!" -Culex (SMRPG)
Brunswick2 eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:16:00 - [32] Originally by: Agent Stone Originally by: Jarne On another note: I still wonder where the "GUARD" campaign in the IVC killboard went after the first engagements. Ah, Invictus renamed it to Operation Icecream on there Killboard. Operation Icecream: A Convo too far... To GUARD: I truly feel for you guys, most of us, at least in IXC know what its like to lose a home. But its the way things go. Nothing remains the same forever in EVE. At some point, we'll be the losers, and some new alliance will move in. Just remember, its never the end. There's plenty of space out there, take the oppurtunity to have some fun away from POSs, enjoy EVE. As to why we did this, our kb accuracies, etc. I'm not going to get into it. But if I ever figure out who in IVC isn't posting his losses, he'll get to have a little chat with me and prlly a lot more people. GF, even though I missed pretty much all of the action to health issues. GL in the future, guys.
Marcus Taron Minmatar Marquie-X Corp The Pentagram	Posted - 2007.05.31 06:05:00 - [33] Edited by: Marcus Taron on 31/05/2007 06:07:14 Edited by: Marcus Taron on 31/05/2007 06:04:52 its a suprise, ivc had once a Campaign named G.U.A.R.D and as the Efficiency drop below something of 50% they delete it. Now they have the icecream Campaign with 68,61% after all fights occour. I wonder if you dont want to show anyone that you was pretty beat up by us as it was only against you over the Daytime here in Europe, before the other allys came to your aid. But it was a great time and i thank all of you for the Experience i have collect.
Tugaru	Posted - 2007.05.31 08:47:00 - [34] As far as I am aware, the campaign was deleted as it had been created prior to some political based timer passing away, and thus was a pre-emptive move that SHOULDN'T have been made when it was. In other words, the board admin screwed up and jumped the gun.
TJ17 Gallente Fallen Angels Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.31 21:59:00 - [35] Originally by: Marcus Taron Edited by: Marcus Taron on 31/05/2007 06:07:14 Edited by: Marcus Taron on 31/05/2007 06:04:52 its a suprise, ivc had once a Campaign named G.U.A.R.D and as the Efficiency drop below something of 50% they delete it. Now they have the icecream Campaign with 68,61% after all fights occour. I wonder if you dont want to show anyone that you was pretty beat up by us as it was only against you over the Daytime here in Europe, before the other allys came to your aid. But it was a great time and i thank all of you for the Experience i have collect. ok some guy posted about the same thing acouple posts up u want to stop flamming this post
Wesley Baird Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.01 13:23:00 - [36] Originally by: Marcus Taron I wonder if you dont want to show anyone that you was pretty beat up by us as it was only against you over the Daytime here in Europe, before the other allys came to your aid. But it was a great time and i thank all of you for the Experience i have collect. Just wanted to correct you, we had Frege pilots on 23/7...I was very active in the sniper fleet Snip OOC - Timmeh(as were many Frege pilots), which is when the funnest fights were going on. The last big fleet engagement was awesome! Snip OOC - Timmeh, but the there was 20 minutes of pure pew-pew. The leadership of each alliance knows the true story why the war happened. I know I spoke with multiple Pentragram pilots and diplo's, we offered them a way out, they chose to stand by their friends (something I fully respect). Pew Pew on a very large scale occurred. Much respect to those who stayed and fought and kept things smack free, and to those crazy Snip OOC - Timmehwho stayed up all night and shared a few laughs with the Snip OOC - Timmeh pilots in local (at some points it would be 100+ on our side, 3 on theirs!!). It was also an honor to fly with IVC pilots, we had alot of laughs and strengthend the bonds of friendship between our alliances. Nothing is better for friends than sharing a battle-ground.

Timmeh 2000 Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.06.01 14:58:00 - [37] Please stay in character at all times in this forum. Forum Rules \| E-mail Us \| Our Web \| Petition \| IGS Rules \| CAS Rules So, is it easy being green? -Elmo "This house is your own, still living alone, it donÆt make you sad, but I think itÆs good to be green."

Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:33:00 - [38] Lol so many posts saying 'if only xxx had shown more respect to xxx this wouldnt have happened' Everyone wants to get respect but nobody wants to show it. Quote: ItÆs not every day an MMO declares war on a huge segment of their own community. Then again, Eve is pretty damn hardcore
Thoric Frosthammer Fallen Angels Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.01 16:44:00 - [39] Edited by: Thoric Frosthammer on 01/06/2007 16:43:24 On a more important note, why does Timmah's sig say he's a lieutentant, but show captain's bars? Back to remedial military insignia class for you boyo. Not really sure why fighting in a hostile universe requires any particular justification or explanation to the peanut gallery. As long as actions are taken for what we and our allies considered good reasons, then victory speaks for itself. Arguing with the peanut gallery over said justifications is usually a waste of time, as they'll already have formed their own opinions, and we're unlikely to change those. Sad I missed it, went on vacation a day or two before the icecream incident :(.

Eldo Davip Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.06.01 17:38:00 - [40] Originally by: Thoric Frosthammer Edited by: Thoric Frosthammer on 01/06/2007 16:43:24 On a more important note, why does Timmah's sig say he's a lieutentant, but show captain's bars? Back to remedial military insignia class for you boyo. CRC Follows the ancient Navy Insignia not the ancient "airforce" ___ Questions/Complaints/Opinions/Bree \| Forum Rules \| Our Website EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER

Demondrew Minmatar Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.06.01 17:40:00 - [41] Edited by: Demondrew on 01/06/2007 17:43:42 Edited by: Demondrew on 01/06/2007 17:43:03 Thoric, The bars you see on his sig are LT in the navy. The same rank in the army is called Captain. I guess it all depends on what service of military your using.
Thoric Frosthammer Fallen Angels Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.01 17:58:00 - [42] Gotcha, forgot about the navy. Silly boat playing with people.
Lizhia Gallente Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.01 19:00:00 - [43] Was a good fight. And I learned much from it.
Sheila Chandra Marquie-X Corp The Pentagram	Posted - 2007.06.01 22:01:00 - [44] Originally by: Thoric Frosthammer Not really sure why fighting in a hostile universe requires any particular justification or explanation to the peanut gallery. As long as actions are taken for what we and our allies considered good reasons, then victory speaks for itself. Arguing with the peanut gallery over said justifications is usually a waste of time, as they'll already have formed their own opinions, and we're unlikely to change those. Politics are a strong present and interesting part of the EvE Universe, if everyone would only make actions and no discussions about it, we all would only have half of the fun ;)
Cmd Criton Caldari Zooner Corp G.U.A.R.D.	Posted - 2007.06.02 03:01:00 - [45] I finally found the flame thread Nah serious. It was a really cool week of fighting and i respect both fronts for keeping local clear of smacktalk. snip OOC -Rauth Unfortunatly we eventually had to realise that we couldnt win this fight, especaially after FREGE and IVC rocked up with appr. 20 capitalships and about 70 support. snip OOC -Rauth Id like to make a toast to our only true friends The-P for standing side by side with us all the way. **************************** Great minds think alike**
Lord DeFault Minmatar Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.06.02 06:42:00 - [46] All that fun? :< Your making me miss the drone regions lol Drone regions have been ticking over for some time... Be ashame to see the Pentagram disaspear to a major gank. Built them selfs a nice little home out there. Anyways, I hope you hold your own. Seting up camp there allways was riskY. Your not still Blue to Oxide are you The PrePatch Day song
Elenia Kheynes Caldari Avatars of Doom Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.06.02 10:03:00 - [47] I feel sorry for you Nicodemos. From the conversations I had with you it is obvious that you and your alliance were abusing of the "first tower to claim" system. I never thought things would go this far though. From my experience in the drone regions you have been arrogant and agressive. I'll pass on the blackmailing, there is no need to detail this. It's obvious that Invictus wasn't looking for more space, simply to remove a very annoying neighbour. Doesn't mean I like Invictus. I'm just merely stating facts here. To be honest, and I'm sorry to say this, you really got what you deserved. Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.02 13:57:00 - [48] GF g.u.a.r.d and The-P. - Gob Now with 20% extra emo!
Apocalytica Insomnia DarkSide Defenders	Posted - 2007.06.03 20:45:00 - [49] Edited by: Apocalytica Insomnia on 03/06/2007 20:49:48 Edited by: Apocalytica Insomnia on 03/06/2007 20:47:16 As the person starting this thread i have some follow-up questions, related to what i read about the whole conflict in this thread and what's public knowledge via EVE-map and multiple killboards. IF this was all about an extortion, how come that as initiator, not the Invictus Alliance is holding the station, nor the ones that where supposeded to be extorted (Volition Cult). How come that it smells a little bit fishy, seeing that the space is claimed by Invictus, including 8-2. But the 8-2 station is claimed by Iron, without beeing really involved in the fight (KB's), who gave up quite fast on their own home, and that their former, and now splintered friends from D2 are attacking those that have not been present on voting the Guard Alliance out of the Mad-pact. ooc: Reminds me of the Series "Jericho", where the now homeless onces are running towards the south as the winter tries to catch up with em, after a series of nuclear attacks, braught down the infastructure of the US. (check http://imdb.com/title/tt0805663/ for reference) Apocalytica Insomnia DSD - Accounting and More
Pherusa Plumosa Minmatar Freedom for All The Volition Cult	Posted - 2007.06.03 22:53:00 - [50] Originally by: Apocalytica Insomnia IF this was all about an extortion, how come that as initiator, not the Invictus Alliance is holding the station, nor the ones that where supposeded to be extorted (Volition Cult). A millstone round my neck is more useful than an outpost near to a mainpipe in a system with 70 moons in it.
kill0rbunny Alpha-Hirogen The Pentagram	Posted - 2007.06.04 10:07:00 - [51] At least we know now, which alliances are trustable and which are not. Iron, D2 and the MAD Pact are clearly not on that list. I pew therefore I am.
Pherusa Plumosa Minmatar Freedom for All The Volition Cult	Posted - 2007.06.04 14:05:00 - [52] At least we know now which alliances abuse agreements between allies until they get kicked. If you are that naive that you still believe your leaderships fairy tales about mean backstabbs, then it's your problem. The guard diplomat had months to solve it in a diplomatic way.
kill0rbunny Alpha-Hirogen The Pentagram	Posted - 2007.06.05 07:15:00 - [53] Edited by: kill0rbunny on 05/06/2007 07:14:21 Originally by: Pherusa Plumosa At least we know now which alliances abuse agreements between allies until they get kicked. If you are that naive that you still believe your leaderships fairy tales about mean backstabbs, then it's your problem. The guard diplomat had months to solve it in a diplomatic way. I lol'd So you think making a decision about a pact involving 4 out of the 10 member alliances is democratic. We'll do as you please, iron has it's hideout now, the goal should be reached, no more need for forum war. We took our conclusions, what your leaders made you believe is not relevant to us. I pew therefore I am.
Nicodemos	Posted - 2007.06.05 07:20:00 - [54] Originally by: Elenia Kheynes I feel sorry for you Nicodemos. From the conversations I had with you it is obvious that you and your alliance were abusing of the "first tower to claim" system. I never thought things would go this far though. From my experience in the drone regions you have been arrogant and agressive. I'll pass on the blackmailing, there is no need to detail this. It's obvious that Invictus wasn't looking for more space, simply to remove a very annoying neighbour. Doesn't mean I like Invictus. I'm just merely stating facts here. To be honest, and I'm sorry to say this, you really got what you deserved. Nice to hear this btw from someone who tried to deal around with others space. Remember 9F-ERQ which you have given to Invictus some ago, and which you can't remember as Virt and I talked to you why you did not tell anything about to us. But well, you can tell in Forums what ever you like. Try to deal with your own things next time. There was a reason why Apocalyptica left the constellation they where settled in. The simple reasons was that Apocalyptica caused a lot of issues and at some point you guys brought things really to a boiling point. How I already told you, say something, stay on it, and keep on your promises. Don't tell **** like you had in this posting. To Violation Cult. There where agreements. I am not really suprised to see you guys ignore them. But it was nice work to go that close to our neighbours and begging around for them to declare war on us. (This accordingly to the 3rd last reason we got told about the "why we are declaring war"). If you not, just another given reason which was to hide the simple truth. Invictus wanted to get us out, startet a campain and formed up a grid of intrigues. How I already said, well done Virt, was good work. As this was my first 0.0 experience as Alliance leader, I will be prepared on things like this next time hopefully. But be aware, you might have started something which you won't be able to handel in future. That it was not personally, I can see in the point that you have started to agress now them, which have not helped, because of "we are trying to stay neutral and hope not to be the next"-Politics. What if you guys have sorted the single not-IVC-Friendly alliances, too? Will you start to kick DMC, Oxide and the others out? I will watch the map for the next time, and in our alliance, I will start a bet on "who will be next...." :) Stay tuned :) GUARD Alliance
Sheila Chandra Marquie-X Corp	Posted - 2007.06.05 08:10:00 - [55] So much to the given Word from MAD Pact that TheP could have stayed if they had not helped guard if you now agress the rest there. I guess this says all about trusting IVC's and FREGE's words
Wesley Baird Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.05 13:56:00 - [56] Originally by: Sheila Chandra So much to the given Word from MAD Pact that TheP could have stayed if they had not helped guard if you now agress the rest there. I guess this says all about trusting IVC's and FREGE's words Alot of people with lots to say who don't know what happened. Frege was 100% upfront and honest about all of its actions and dealings. War could easily have been avoided...say what you will about Frege, we wont be asking our neighbours for 8 billion isk for space we don't own...
Arilanus Doshenko Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2007.06.05 23:51:00 - [57] Originally by: Nicodemos To Violation Cult. There where agreements. I am not really suprised to see you guys ignore them. Which we agreed to. GUARD broke their own rules whilst expecting VOLT to honour them. At the time hostilities broke out, I had been waiting more than two weeks for an official response to my evemail to you on that matter. Instead of further discussion, you simply attempted to extort isk from us for space that, by GUARD's own rules, we already considered 'ours' - yet were willing to share with you. Originally by: Nicodemos But it was nice work to go that close to our neighbours and begging around for them to declare war on us. (This accordingly to the 3rd last reason we got told about the "why we are declaring war"). If you not, just another given reason which was to hide the simple truth. You can't state that VOLT aren't 'official' MAD members (as if that vindicates your actions toward a blue neighbour), then suggest we have enough political power over MAD to turn your former allies against you. They had already made up their own minds - by the time we contacted them about our concerns, events were already in motion. Originally by: Nicodemos What if you guys have sorted the single not-IVC-Friendly alliances, too? Will you start to kick DMC, Oxide and the others out? I will watch the map for the next time, and in our alliance, I will start a bet on "who will be next...." :) Don't accuse people of intrigues, then attempt some tinfoil-hat shenanigans of your own. I can't speak for FREGE, Invictus or others, but if GUARD had simply maintained proper, open diplomatic contact with their allies then maybe this chain of events would not have happened. [insert awesome Photoshop character banner here]
Constantin Catweazle Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.06 22:28:00 - [58] Seems IVC is against Stella Polar now... But hey, there is no fighting for more Space they must be ***holes too... Hope you doesn't have to delete the Campain in your Killboard again cause of bad K/D-ratio. My advice: tell everyone the reason is that SP would use their space as hideout for ex-D2 allies and and give it to iron after you won.
Thoric Frosthammer Fallen Angels Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.06 22:46:00 - [59] Originally by: Constantin Catweazle Seems IVC is against Stella Polar now... But hey, there is no fighting for more Space they must be ***holes too... Hope you doesn't have to delete the Campain in your Killboard again cause of bad K/D-ratio. My advice: tell everyone the reason is that SP would use their space as hideout for ex-D2 allies and and give it to iron after you won. Said the whining member of... Caldari noob corp is it? I wasn't aware we needed a reason to shoot someone red to us, who sends raiders into our space? Do they also have to insult our mom or something before we're allowed to shoot them? Or do we need a plebiscite of the peanut gallery before initiating hostilities? As I've said before arguing with entitlement mentality jagoffs here is semi pointless. They either get it or they don't.
Nora Catweazle	Posted - 2007.06.07 22:32:00 - [60] Giving contra without giving a real answer... Grats to IVC for having such great forum warriors. Being in in IVC and flying BS on lvl 1 seems good either...

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