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xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:03:00 - [181] BoB will not ever take Konora :P Thats the only thing im sure of. Death is only the beginning...
suza Prison Break Inc. FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:11:00 - [182] BoB will never win eve, no-one can. The nature of the game is that there is no end, no win, CCP specifically designed it as a forever ongoing universe. BoB might have their name over the space, but the fun of outlaw space is that no-one really has total control of it. I have wandered happily thought other peoples bit of 0.0 with little issues. In the early days of BoB they relied upon this to do their roving hunting. What it means to BoB to have their name over all of 0.0. The answer is simple, nothing left to achieve with the people they are in allience with. Eventually, BoB will have its time, its a game and people move on, change direction or seek something new. Then hopefully there will be a new baddie on the block for all of us to hate. As actors often say "the baddie always gets the best parts" - Fly Hard, Fly fast for tomorrow is another day for Killing!
Absalom Marathon Swedish Academy	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:23:00 - [183] Hello there. I'm fairly new to Eve and the forums and prolly shouldn't take this up, but, well.. Thought I'd ask the question anyway. Why aren't (when all the people are whining about BoB all the time) people going together in one big alliance to put up some firepower against BoB? Is it to hard to get together? Not one single corp (or existing alliance as it seems) can manage it by themselves (obviously). Why not get that fact and start acting united even tho it's hard? Well, I will be having fun in EvE anyway, and does not care, but thought it was a question worth asking.
Herculite Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:45:00 - [184] Originally by: Dark Shikari Imagine if, for example, the Coalition used their massive capital ship fleets to hit 5 BoB systems at once while BoB was all bottled up in F-TE? Delve could have been brought down in a week if they brought everything they had and split up rather than trying to put 2000 people in one system. While obviously there were things the coalition could have done better in those first two months, I think you over/underestimate if you think that plan would have worked in the long term. We would have been in easy jump range around delve, and with coalition forces spread out like that they would have been vulnerable. They did do a smart thing and the same day as F-T they attacked station systems like 0oy. Since we had a baby mothership to protect we lost those systems for a time due to that.
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:49:00 - [185] Originally by: Absalom Marathon Hello there. I'm fairly new to Eve and the forums and prolly shouldn't take this up, but, well.. Thought I'd ask the question anyway. Why aren't (when all the people are whining about BoB all the time) people going together in one big alliance to put up some firepower against BoB? Is it to hard to get together? Not one single corp (or existing alliance as it seems) can manage it by themselves (obviously). Why not get that fact and start acting united even tho it's hard? Well, I will be having fun in EvE anyway, and does not care, but thought it was a question worth asking. Everybody pounders at this mystery and apprently yea its that hard to get organised. IMHO all alliances were very arrogant lazy and couldnt think 2 steps ahead...So BOB took them one by one.. - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
heavyg Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:51:00 - [186] Originally by: Absalom Marathon Hello there. I'm fairly new to Eve and the forums and prolly shouldn't take this up, but, well.. Thought I'd ask the question anyway. Why aren't (when all the people are whining about BoB all the time) people going together in one big alliance to put up some firepower against BoB? Is it to hard to get together? Not one single corp (or existing alliance as it seems) can manage it by themselves (obviously). Why not get that fact and start acting united even tho it's hard? Well, I will be having fun in EvE anyway, and does not care, but thought it was a question worth asking. Simple really, no one can agree to follow one leader who has a plan. Also a lot of the whiners are , great of the forums, not so good at pew pew.
Pvt Sammich Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.31 14:38:00 - [187] I wouldn't worry about them taking over all of 0.0 space I don't really think they would like the constant logistical aspects of it very much. Titans can only be in so many places at one am I rite? Quote: Either CCP employees need to remove all BoB contacts and place them on ignore or CCP should publish the MSN contacts for all members to be able to have a direct line to the developers. -
LordAmarus Minmatar Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.05.31 16:40:00 - [188] Lol , earthan , you really are ... I'd say a noob , but hell even a noob has more sens of eve and brains then you. Bob won't control all 0.0 space cuz their is no benefit in it. (ffs who would want the drone regions -_- ) Have No Fear , I Is Here
Capt Sparky	Posted - 2007.05.31 17:24:00 - [189] Edited by: Capt Sparky on 31/05/2007 17:23:08
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.31 17:26:00 - [190] Originally by: LordAmarus Lol , earthan , you really are ... I'd say a noob , but hell even a noob has more sens of eve and brains then you. Bob won't control all 0.0 space cuz their is no benefit in it. (ffs who would want the drone regions -_- ) yeah im a damn noob nad for sure i could learn an eternity from yuor wisdom. God how i hate smartass arrogant remarks like yours. BOB isnt about profit,its about conquering control and power. Im sorry to say you dont understand jack.Honestly i dont know why im even replying to your post. - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.05.31 17:34:00 - [191] Edited by: Sir Lolle on 31/05/2007 17:33:06 Originally by: LordAmarus Lol , earthan , you really are ... I'd say a noob , but hell even a noob has more sens of eve and brains then you. Bob won't control all 0.0 space cuz their is no benefit in it. (ffs who would want the drone regions -_- ) You must be unfamiliar with Theta Squad ~ Sir Lololololle ~ Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Hermia HIVE X-PACT	Posted - 2007.05.31 18:17:00 - [192] Originally by: Herculite Originally by: Dark Shikari Imagine if, for example, the Coalition used their massive capital ship fleets to hit 5 BoB systems at once while BoB was all bottled up in F-TE? Delve could have been brought down in a week if they brought everything they had and split up rather than trying to put 2000 people in one system. While obviously there were things the coalition could have done better in those first two months, I think you over/underestimate if you think that plan would have worked in the long term. We would have been in easy jump range around delve, and with coalition forces spread out like that they would have been vulnerable. They did do a smart thing and the same day as F-T they attacked station systems like 0oy. Since we had a baby mothership to protect we lost those systems for a time due to that. Attacking multiple fronts is the correct formula tho. The coalition had more numbers, alot more, so spitting up shouldn't have been an issue.. but low and behold Thats probably what they thought actually, "hmmm splitting up will weaken our fleet". Probably true coalition, but i dont get it because bob should've had to thin their forces even more, maybe ruling out the feasibility of fighting a 3rd, 4th, 5th front. Consequently that Could've forced BOB to play YOUR game. Doesnt matter, cant be done anymore, the chance has been missed (for the time being). BOB's installed 'friendly' states i think even gives them the numbers advantage now! Any new bid to take down bob must include converting these satellite entities. shoulda woulda coulda, oh dear
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.31 18:29:00 - [193] Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? I have 0 respect for them. Other alliances I might not like but I respect them MC would be one of them. I would explain my reason but this thread would be deleted. Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
ChalSto The Galactic Empire Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.31 18:41:00 - [194] Edited by: ChalSto on 31/05/2007 18:41:48 Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? You mean....they cheat? Hey...I work for Microsoft and my Windows works fine for me. Just becouse yours does not, does that mean I cheat? /me waits for incoming flame-wall... Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb*
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.05.31 21:09:00 - [195] Windows runs good... If it is 2000 one :P And, let's admit. Windows has no PvP in it, only user vs system :D Death is only the beginning...
Zagum Darkfin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.31 21:19:00 - [196] Edited by: Zagum Darkfin on 31/05/2007 21:18:34 Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? I have 0 respect for them. Other alliances I might not like but I respect them MC would be one of them. I would explain my reason but this thread would be deleted. And the Tinfoil Hat WINNER IS....................!!!!!!!!! CUpDEEz, come on down, you are a winner on CAOD Prices Right!
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.05.31 23:17:00 - [197] Originally by: Zagum Darkfin And the Tinfoil Hat WINNER IS....................!!!!!!!!! CUpDEEz, come on down, you are a winner on CAOD Prices Right! Nice joke, but his last sentense still makes sense, as we seen deletionage earlier. Death is only the beginning...
nickycakes Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.31 23:32:00 - [198] Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? I have 0 respect for them. Other alliances I might not like but I respect them MC would be one of them. I would explain my reason but this thread would be deleted. My interest in the game was hinging on Cupdeez's respect, so I guess this is goodbye eve..
L0ck Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.31 23:32:00 - [199] Contact your local GBCÖ representative today!
Chelone	Posted - 2007.06.01 01:11:00 - [200] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Ivan K ([email protected])
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.06.01 01:20:00 - [201] Originally by: nickycakes Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? I have 0 respect for them. Other alliances I might not like but I respect them MC would be one of them. I would explain my reason but this thread would be deleted. My interest in the game was hinging on Cupdeez's respect, so I guess this is goodbye eve.. BOB NO YOU ARE OUR ONLY HOPE PLEASE DONT LEAVE Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected][orange] with a link to your signature. - Elm
NAFnist Domination.	Posted - 2007.06.01 03:13:00 - [202] bob has a huge +ve list atm, and its very unstable at this size -
Buddy King Caldari Jork Corp	Posted - 2007.06.01 07:26:00 - [203] Edited by: Buddy King on 01/06/2007 07:26:42 Edited by: Buddy King on 01/06/2007 07:26:09 Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. There is a Chinese server? Can we go on it and strip mine their Empire space? Seriously though. Pushing a disorganized goonswarm out of hastily acquired regions is one thing. C.racking their fortress in Scalding Pass while dealing with RA is probably more of a challenge.
bloomich Trotter's Independent Traders Co	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:49:00 - [204] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. From a friend who used to play the Chinease server, he left over the max 2 hour gametime rule. Thats the reason why eve china is not doing as well as it should, since people would rather play 2 hours of <insert grind em up> and acheive something rather than getting kicked out because a session was likely to take more than 2 hours.
Hugh Ruka Caldari Free Traders Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:24:00 - [205] Originally by: Rod Blaine Hey earthan m8, there's not really an issue. We could maybe theoretically take sovereignty over alot of space, or have our name on the map for it as part of our lil empire, but there'll always be parts we don't own, corps we don't control, and fleets nad pos's that need to be destroyed. People didn't give up when we killed off PA, alot of them went and formed G, who we've later had enjoyable battles with. The same will simply happen again, and again, and again. Eve always changes, and every major change equals opportunity. No it won't. Back then BoB did not have that many resources and capitals did not exist. Now it will be an economic war, not a combat war. And BoB maintaining huge resources will simply have the upper hand ALWAYS. We're all going to die.... :-))) Originally by: JP Beauregard The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls....
Opium Minmatar Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.01 17:47:00 - [206] ill make sure they have fun need a huge very persitant evil empire to fight in a space game. not that there evil per se... probbaly all go to church. i dont care.but for me, there my darth vader. so beware my lightsabre muhuaaaaa
Veronique deEstelle Gallente Diplomatic Disruption	Posted - 2007.06.02 03:31:00 - [207] Originally by: ChalSto Edited by: ChalSto on 31/05/2007 18:41:48 Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? You mean....they cheat? Hey...I work for Microsoft and my Windows works fine for me. Just becouse yours does not, does that mean I cheat? */me waits for incoming flame-wall... Nah... I say it 'just' means you know more about windows then me^^
Emrod Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.02 04:12:00 - [208] Edited by: Emrod on 02/06/2007 04:12:10 Originally by: Earthan So do you think you will still have fun flying in space once all 0.0 is more or less yours ( less the npc stations 0.0 )? Oh my God the question! I think its gonna be the most boring day of their life and they gonna disband. Hey..why continued play the game when you win it ? In fact when you finish a game at all mode...in fact you drop your CD game in a dirty place in your computer room and you open the case of a new game and try to win this one. Hmm rigth? So the real question here is..what is the next game Bob gonna win? I sell some logoff t2 module,improved forum flamming tachyon beam and Bob Lag generator faction item, contact me ingame for more info :P
Onchas Erivvia Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.02 04:54:00 - [209] Edited by: Onchas Erivvia on 02/06/2007 04:57:37 Originally by: Marcus Druallis In actuality you are the one without the knowledge here. At peak times the chinese server is at the max 6000 players, and it is a FACT that one alliance controls all of 0.0, and that is it farming heaven over there. Do some research. Well aren't you just a little sweetie pie, and I've always held POS guys in such high regard. Much thanks to the nice fella who directed to the coldfront stats page. ------------------------------------------ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"' Teh Onchinator' Personal Assistant to MrsPitman
VoYvod Amarr Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.02 06:14:00 - [210] History tends to repeat itself... in a video game or in real life it still happens, for example... does nobody remember the roman empire? they were 'unstoppable' aswell as persia , mongolia ,and germany (in a certain part of time) - if you think about it , all these countires basicly had pets , and look at how most of those nations ended , rome - guerilla warfare by the huns , persia - tried to take greece , didnt succeed because their navy had to pull back because of too many losses - and if too many losses happened the land forces wouldn't of been able to return home (in eve thats the titan's wormhole :P) then greek united from different tribes into a single nation , they went from 'spartans' / 'athenians' to 'greeks' and stood as a whole and persia got defeated [ 'northern coalition' / 'southern coalition' , maybe they'll try to attempt to stand as a whole instead of basicly 2 seperate groups wanting the same thing but not really helping eachother on achieving - from what i see] , i'm sure everybody knows what happened to germany - 'best army on earth' then had too many wars their enemies updated technology and their industry got hit and got blobbed from too many fronts and that was the end of that, basicly bob is germany in a way with the capital fleet , give it time and their enemies will get a big enough capital fleet once again , vietnam ,guerilla warfare which effected the mentality of the citizens of the usa of thinking it was unwinable so it ended - i'm sure almost every single once of yous reading this was in a corp/alliance that has taken too many ganksquads took too many losses , and couldnt gain financially and said it wasnt worth it and left. i know this is a video game, but its still pretty much the same thing, Guerilla warfare will be the only way, and really - the only realistic way atm to put a dent , internal issues would have to make bob and pets splinter (which is usually caused by guerilla warfare) look at vietnam/and present day iraq , all i'm saying is that if anybody with a lot of friends or not spreads themselves too thin / makes too many enemies / i can almost guarantee history will repeat itself P.S. While you're attacking RedSwarm - think of napoleon when he was rushing to Moscow , there might be some General Winter waiting :P eve's version of General winter = lag thanks for reading , it WAS a history lesson :P but gotta put in the details to prove my point. BTW the movie 300 was inaccurate , that's just hollywood

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