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Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.29 13:55:00 - [1] You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. Unless some jedi arise suddenly:) imho you should have crashed in around2-3 months all oposition and populated 0.0 with your pet- alliances.Kudos to you, impressive. Now what i wonder what is next for BOB? I mean there will be no challenge left,im not sure if i would have fun anymore being in yuor place.. Sure prolly there will be groups of die hard freedom fighters in npc stations (me me :) ) in 0.0, but i think that will be all left to fight and wont be to fun... So do you think you will still have fun flying in space once all 0.0 is more or less yours ( less the npc stations 0.0 )? - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.29 13:57:00 - [2] Time to take Empire. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
The Beatnuts UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 13:58:00 - [3] Originally by: Pilk Time to take Empire. --P question adressed to BOB i think :p /omee
Shai Faetal Burn The Witch	Posted - 2007.05.29 13:59:00 - [4] Originally by: The Beatnuts Originally by: Pilk Time to take Empire. --P question adressed to BOB i think :p post with your bob alt! ________________
Damares Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:01:00 - [5] BoB will more than likely within a few months control most of conquerable space, the parts left are the rubbish bits anyway, its not something i like but its quite likely to happen, unless something drastic happens thats the way its going. after BoB has 0.0 i think they will become suicide gankers :D
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:03:00 - [6] When they take all of 0.0 its simple..... reset all standings ------------------------------------------------------------------
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:08:00 - [7] BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:13:00 - [8] Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. Thats what they have pet alliances for Dark shikari imho.And it was brillant they noticed the problem early ( i think when they had fountain,OR , delve, and noticed they cant be everywhere at same time...) And whne there is a massive attack on poses they can alwys arrive in time to wipe enemies ass. So everyday small fights: pet alliances. big attacks: bob can be at right time in right place. I think this system will work.Unless we would attack in many places at same time but since anti-bob alliances couldnt really cooperate when they were alive ( for very various reasons imho most importan twre: arrogance and pure stupididty combined with turtle syndrom) , what chances have we to orgnise something once there is no real 0.0 alliances left? We would really need some jedi to orgnise this:) - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:15:00 - [9] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/05/2007 14:13:58 Originally by: Earthan Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. Thats what they have pet alliances for Dark shikari imho.And it was brillant they noticed the problem early ( i think when they had fountain,OR , delve, and noticed they cant be everywhere at same time...) And whne there is a massive attack on poses they can alwys arrive in time to wipe enemies ass. So everyday small fights: pet alliances. big attacks: bob can be at right time in right place. I think this system will work.Unless we would attack in many places at same time but since anti-bob alliances couldnt really cooperate when they were alive ( for very various reasons imho most importan twre: arrogance and pure stupididty combined with turtle syndrom) , what chances have we to orgnise something once there is no real 0.0 alliances left? We would really need some jedi to orgnise this:) I don't think they'd be able to hold up a galaxy-wide "pet" system. More likely what will happen is that in most areas of EVE, you won't have "anti-BoB" or "pro-BoB" forces, you'll have forces who just don't care either way. Contrast that to the current situation, of course. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Gloomrake Ono Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:16:00 - [10] Originally by: Earthan You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. Whatever...
Aypse Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Earthan You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. Unless some jedi arise suddenly:) imho you should have crashed in around2-3 months all oposition and populated 0.0 with your pet- alliances.Kudos to you, impressive. Now what i wonder what is next for BOB? I mean there will be no challenge left,im not sure if i would have fun anymore being in yuor place.. Sure prolly there will be groups of die hard freedom fighters in npc stations (me me :) ) in 0.0, but i think that will be all left to fight and wont be to fun... So do you think you will still have fun flying in space once all 0.0 is more or less yours ( less the npc stations 0.0 )? So, you are saying that you did not see the other 10+ threads on this same exact topic? I suggest you look in the General and CAOD sections of the forum. You know that there are pages behind the first page and also a search function right? Besides that, there are plenty of enemies of BOB and the alliance still out there. Some of them have given up, but many of them still have the will and ability to fight. If I was you, I would not just dismiss these people as insignificant and unable to fight. Originally by: Oveur Eve is primarily a PVP game and hence our focus is on making that experience balanced.
Neveren Caldari Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:26:00 - [12] STC recruiting!
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:28:00 - [13] With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself.
Nai Ling Amarr Middle Finger Technology Ghosts Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:28:00 - [14] Once BoB has eliminated all enemies, it's time for a standings reset. Just rewind 6 months at a time for the last 4 years, and you'll see it's a trend. Everyone knows BoB needs targets. What's a PVP game about if all you have is friends? No matter what happens in the future, what successes BoB has, or who gets trampled along the way, BoB will always have someone to shoot at. That's what they're here for. That's what they'll do. _______________________________________________
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. hehe. Well, one of options is that bob corps will split from eachother and reset stangings to each never the less. There shouldnt be big enteties around, so in a way it might be like server reseting and starting all over again....but with completely different features as back in old days. So, in this scenario it shouldnt be deja vue from 4 years ago, but something completely new. One of options as i said me, myself and I ------>
Indiano Arko Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:35:00 - [16] Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. I heard there may be a bonus level.
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:37:00 - [17] Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. You're mixing up Eve & POTBS again. Noob. Max --------------------
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. According to that new outpost alert statistics thingy they are about to fix that atm. But what really is a problem is: what is control? You could for example state Venal is controlled by Tri. Yet, they are far from having total control over this region. If you spin that it will apply to bob too - maybe in some areas it already does. Still i think that is not a nice future prediction. I'll keep on shooting their pets, forever. Someday when i can fly a titan and CCP introduced the ability to use motherships as drones ima invade NOL. Oh wait, now it's getting a bit off.
Tundaar Minmatar Eve Defence Force Pure.	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:47:00 - [19] Edited by: Tundaar on 29/05/2007 14:46:42 Originally by: Dark Shikari I don't think they'd be able to hold up a galaxy-wide "pet" system. More likely what will happen is that in most areas of EVE, you won't have "anti-BoB" or "pro-BoB" forces, you'll have forces who just don't care either way. Contrast that to the current situation, of course. Heh - seems to me that they are doing alright with 1/3 of the galaxy already - so why not the rest? As long as people are prepared to pay rent (which seems to the case) Bob will "control" the space. If someone rebels they get squashed by a monster Cap Fleet, and no pet wants to be the first one squashed so no-one will step out of line. There are plenty lining up to pay rent, the money from which will just make BoB stronger and more able to produce more Cap Ships. In the Era of Cap fleets BoB already have an advantage which get stronger, a balance point (in my opinion, worthless though it might be) has been exceeded. Time to pack up and play sommething more balanced.
Mitch Taylor Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:52:00 - [20] There is an element of defeat in these posts, more and more so in recent days. I look at the current political map and think what if? I wish more people would have that outlook and made something happen. EVE is about pushing the limits of possibility, BoB did it and now they arguably at the peak of their game. So what? everyone else gives up do they because someone has achieved so much? I love this game and spend a huge amount of my time playing it. The only thing that is dear to me in this game is my corp, its development and its goals. I look at BoB and it inspires me to succeed, not give up. Now snap out of it folks, this game is meant to be hard, lets make new history shall we. Dark-Rising
Nyack GREY COUNCIL Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:56:00 - [21] Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. this arguement has been said over and over again.. there is no way that oen alliance can hold all 0,0... if i am not misstaken that has infact already happened.. the chinese server was conq by one faction. "the north" actually (irony).. eve has now crashed there no one wants to play the game the ones that "won"eve was left with no more challenges and the ones lost left cause there was no fun left.. and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0..
Onchas Erivvia Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:06:00 - [22] Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. ------------------------------------------ 'Teh Onchinator' Personal Assistant to MrsPitman
Mitch Taylor Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:07:00 - [23] snip Inappropriate. -Elmo Pug Dark-Rising
steveid Metatron Industries	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:08:00 - [24] Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. Tbh dark this isn't neccesarily true all they need to do is install pets and / or friendlyies and have a member in the alliance with pos access. I believe in the near future you will be able to see whats cooking in ship maintainance arrays that way. Then its simply a matter of preventing titan production while producing them yourself. Nobody will be able to stand up to your titan fleet and inside 12 months you will have enough titans to doomsday a conventional capital fleet. There needs to be a way of building capital ships that is stealthy. Perhaps doing it without soverignity, perhaps making a new type of pos that can be anchored at safe spots.
Aterna Talon's Grasp	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:15:00 - [25] My thoughts: BoB will pull MC out of the north soon, and send them after AAA/IAC. The areas now controlled by MC will be turned over to alliances such as YouWhat, M. Pire. and others. BoB will not have sovereignty over the outposts, they will allow the north to stay under the control of others. Perhaps ISS can revive itself by buying outposts across the north? They will fight RA and co. for months. While they do, the North will rebuild, just like it did after the GNW. Corps who have been in the north for their entire existence will come back and the cycle will continue. Back in the BoB/RA war, BoB will have reclaimed most of the regions lost by LV, and went on to push several RA allies north into Goon space, and MC will have worked over AAA and IAC with the help of FIX and the southern allies. Perhaps the OP should simply have asked (I am curious about this): What will BoB/MC do with the stations in the north that they have captured? Sell them, let Sov run out? Turn them over to friendlies? Turn them over to BoB and claim the regions? - - - WTB new sig, evemail me please.
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:15:00 - [26] snip BoB wins 0.0, big deal. I live in Empire. To Empire-dwallers, BoB is an impotent dragon that roars loudly on the forums but has no claws and teeth in day to day operations. Meanwhile, I educate every newbie I can that going to 0.0 is a win/lose proposition -- join BoB & slaves for the I-Win button, join anyone else and your dreams will be stolen from you at some point. Reference to removed post. -Elmo Pug
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:18:00 - [27] Edited by: DubanFP on 29/05/2007 15:17:14 If all of 0.0 came under the control of BoB & Co they would simply break up. Maybe from internal problems, but more likely then not because they all agreed to break into 2 or more factions/teams so they could all get some pewpew with each other. I mean i could see it happening, the day this happens things will get boring. I could totally see the 2-3 most powerful alliances meeting "likely BoB and possibly MC" and then have a big draft in which they pick teams for some pewpew. MC: I'll take Fix BoB: Hmm i'll grab Xeles ect, ect. ____________ DubanFP > where ever there is a player that's getting too rich, wherever there's an industrial with too much loot, wherever there is a noob with too much smack we'll be there...
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:19:00 - [28] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. In actuality you are the one without the knowledge here. At peak times the chinese server is at the max 6000 players, and it is a FACT that one alliance controls all of 0.0, and that is it farming heaven over there. Do some research. -- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected])
Nyack GREY COUNCIL Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. Serentiy status from coldfront of course i do not have the chance to actually see the influx of asian subscribers only ccp holds that information.. i can only post what i have seen from living in 0,0 these days in fact in bob controlled space (fountain) the second language i see in local these days are actually chinese.. might be cause that is damn fun fighting "the corrs" in fountain core.. bring backs memories =) there are chinese alliance and pure corps popping up every where in 0,0 and npc:ing ravens etc.. almost all of 0,0 systems have 1 pilot farming belts.. i think it is only the language barrier holding that player base back from being big part in the politics and impact of TQ these days.. and i still believe the chinese servers haev aided in spreading the interest for "the real" TQ server these where not there 1 year ago.. i really think what happened to the chinese server is happening to TQ aswell it is just taking longer time due to a bigger playerbase on TQ.. i just hope ccp will open their eyes and "balance" before it is to late...
Tomas Ysidro Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:26:00 - [30] Originally by: DubanFP MC: I'll take Fix BoB: Hmm i'll grab Xeles ect, ect. That's quite a funny mental picture
Ling Xiao Prism Project Technologies	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:32:00 - [31] Originally by: Earthan You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. You shouldn't believe everything you hear. __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing?
Axia Firehead Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:39:00 - [32] the RAGOON federation will not be beaten so easily. we will hold and figth bob up to our last breath. you have no idea that will happend. nothing is done yet.. really nothing. bob win some battle, we won some as well. the war is not over yet, far from this, and next year, the war still be here. we won t let BOB win, no matter the cost for us. we will win, because we have no more choice to free new eden from this evil empire. Primary Target
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:48:00 - [33] Originally by: Axia Firehead the RAGOON federation will not be beaten so easily. we will hold and figth bob up to our last breath. you have no idea that will happend. nothing is done yet.. really nothing. bob win some battle, we won some as well. the war is not over yet, far from this, and next year, the war still be here. we won t let BOB win, no matter the cost for us. we will win, because we have no more choice to free new eden from this evil empire. good luck and i sincerly hope you will succed, but i have heard these same words from ASCN and d2 ( tough ofc d2 isnt dead yet , but doesnt seem to be wining), so i got my doubts. - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
Riwer Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:49:00 - [34] We could hire MC to wardec ourselves.
Elisca Black Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:49:00 - [35] To the mining mobile!!!! Those constellation capitals sound nice...guns around outposts? build build build.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:51:00 - [36] Originally by: Mitch Taylor There is an element of defeat in these posts, more and more so in recent days. I look at the current political map and think what if? I wish more people would have that outlook and made something happen. EVE is about pushing the limits of possibility, BoB did it and now they arguably at the peak of their game. So what? everyone else gives up do they because someone has achieved so much? I love this game and spend a huge amount of my time playing it. The only thing that is dear to me in this game is my corp, its development and its goals. I look at BoB and it inspires me to succeed, not give up. Now snap out of it folks, this game is meant to be hard, lets make new history shall we. We've seen tons of corps switch sides already and alliances crumble, I wouldn't hold your breath if I were you waiting for any more meaningful 'big fights' if RAGOON falls. signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:04:00 - [37] Originally by: Mitch Taylor EVE is about pushing the limits of possibility, BoB did it and now they arguably at the peak of their game. So what? everyone else gives up do they because someone has achieved so much? I love this game and spend a huge amount of my time playing it. The only thing that is dear to me in this game is my corp, its development and its goals. I look at BoB and it inspires me to succeed, not give up. Funny comming from someone who gave up about a year ago. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:05:00 - [38] I don't think anyone is underestimating the stamina of ra in fighting for there space are they . I'm certainly not and still expect a long hard slog ahead of us and wouldn't want it any other way BoB vs the coalition of family values
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Riwer We could hire MC to wardec ourselves. I think they would find that a little paradoxical. Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus."
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:17:00 - [40] Edited by: Plutoinum on 29/05/2007 16:35:28 Edited by: Plutoinum on 29/05/2007 16:16:43 Afaik RA and friends aren't dead yet, just losing space, which is not the first time for RA. If BoB wins this, it doesn't mean that their opposition ceases to exist and that all plus standings stay the same. Would be boring for everyone, so doesn't happen. Ok, maybe BoB tries to color the whole map BoB-blue, before the big standing reset comes. But then life goes on. I'd say it's the 'us vs. them' thinking that binds people together on both sides, not everlasting love. They want to win against their common enemy. Once there is no 'vs. them' anymore, because the enemy is defeated, it's also the end of the 'us' and people go different ways. About the china cluster. Don't believe that it will be similar here. Tranquility is older, lots of vets with big egos, lots of anti-BoBs, a few years history without total domination of one alliance already on this server. edit If BoB controls everything I personally could even imagine to fly with old enemies like RA against them to make things interesting again. I don't have an eternal grudge. I want to have fun.
Ace Frehley Minmatar Fist of the Empire	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:33:00 - [41] The bob-alts dosent work on fix-salary, judging by the recent increase of useless threads _______________________________________________ Beer, Eve and no shaved babes!!! is that oki then? My slogans always gets nerfed \o/ Oh a new one: Beer, eve and play neekid!!
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:42:00 - [42] CCP opens a dimension gate to eve china and the fight starts!!! As a side note, what's been happening in eve china lately?
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:42:00 - [43] Edited by: Victor Vision on 29/05/2007 17:01:51 Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. Chinese server stats. Any further questions? EVE War I - Quick Overview (Feb/March)
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:43:00 - [44] Originally by: Plim Originally by: Riwer We could hire MC to wardec ourselves. I think they would find that a little paradoxical. We did try that once but Seleene turned Blacklight's offer down. I believe the offer was made during the 2005 Fanfest, if my memory serves me correctly.
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:44:00 - [45] Originally by: Earthan You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. Unless some jedi arise suddenly:) imho you should have crashed in around2-3 months all oposition and populated 0.0 with your pet- alliances.Kudos to you, impressive. Now what i wonder what is next for BOB? I mean there will be no challenge left,im not sure if i would have fun anymore being in yuor place.. Sure prolly there will be groups of die hard freedom fighters in npc stations (me me :) ) in 0.0, but i think that will be all left to fight and wont be to fun... So do you think you will still have fun flying in space once all 0.0 is more or less yours ( less the npc stations 0.0 )? We have several plans for several different eventualities. And you of all people should know just how far in advance we plan things!
Hermia HIVE X-PACT	Posted - 2007.05.29 16:59:00 - [46] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Earthan You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. Unless some jedi arise suddenly:) imho you should have crashed in around2-3 months all oposition and populated 0.0 with your pet- alliances.Kudos to you, impressive. Now what i wonder what is next for BOB? I mean there will be no challenge left,im not sure if i would have fun anymore being in yuor place.. Sure prolly there will be groups of die hard freedom fighters in npc stations (me me :) ) in 0.0, but i think that will be all left to fight and wont be to fun... So do you think you will still have fun flying in space once all 0.0 is more or less yours ( less the npc stations 0.0 )? We have several plans for several different eventualities. And you of all people should know just how far in advance we plan things! Ive also been asking myself the same questions earthan is making. Whats next for BOB? I dont want BOB members to leave the game, you guys add alot to to the culture. At Same time, i dont want you guys to force disbandment after you win eve (its looking all to likely now). It must be forced by a rebelion, this is the only acceptable outcome for me! I will not be too happy if the bob chapter is closed by yourselves, its such a weak ending to the story Im telling the truth when i say im disappointed, really am, its now been proved that even when the remaining powers band together they are still "Sunday League" compared to "Premiere Devision BOB". We are so crap!!!!
Project Chick Cash Money Millionaires	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:02:00 - [47] Originally by: Hans Roaming As a side note, what's been happening in eve china lately? empire completely sold out of BPO's for Ravens, prototype cloaks, and stabs
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:14:00 - [48] Edited by: Avon on 29/05/2007 17:13:07 Originally by: Project Chick Originally by: Hans Roaming As a side note, what's been happening in eve china lately? empire completely sold out of BPO's for Ravens, prototype cloaks, and stabs I thought Burn Eden were still on TQ? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
HordeZla Domination.	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:24:00 - [49] snip Personal attack. -Elmo Pug
Arenis Xemdal Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:26:00 - [50] Fun doesn't stop when you accomplish goals, it stops when you don't have the imagination to think of new ones. Like DG said, you will not get serious answers from the people who plan, only speculation from rank and file.. which may be as good as anyone elses. And I speculate that trying to hold all of 0.0 is far more challenging than simply taking it. Probably not as fun though.
Veras Mendacity Templars of Space CORE.	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:32:00 - [51] Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke snip BoB wins 0.0, big deal. I live in Empire. To Empire-dwallers, BoB is an impotent dragon that roars loudly on the forums but has no claws and teeth in day to day operations. Meanwhile, I educate every newbie I can that going to 0.0 is a win/lose proposition -- join BoB & slaves for the I-Win button, join anyone else and your dreams will be stolen from you at some point. Reference to removed post. -Elmo Pug If BoB does take all of 0.0 (I'm not saying that is likely), it will be because of this kind of obtuse attitude by a portion of Empire dwellers. It reminds me of the isolationist attitude of some Americans who didn't want to get involved in WWII because they thought it was a European problem. Don't you understand that if BoB controls all of 0.0 they also control the essential minerals used to manufacture the things you like to play with? If that happens, everyone, including you and the people you advise, will be working for BoB. Not voluntarily with dignity but blindly, as oblivious slaves. You OK with that, snip Be nice -Elmo Pug
Rancid Beef Shadow Gypsies R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:36:00 - [52] After Ragoons and every single alliance who called BoB's allies pets are dead... Some Northern Alliance member from Seleene's "posse" will anger/be angered by some Southern Alliance member from Molle's "gang." Then we'll grab up bats/knives/beer bottles/old ****o DVD's, meet at the bike racks after school in the old park and woop the snot out of each other. "A friend of death, a brother of luck, and a s.o.b."
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:38:00 - [53] Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. hehe. Well, one of options is that bob corps will split from eachother and reset stangings to each never the less. There shouldnt be big enteties around, so in a way it might be like server reseting and starting all over again....but with completely different features as back in old days. So, in this scenario it shouldnt be deja vue from 4 years ago, but something completely new. One of options as i said That would indeed be interesting , the galaxy would again be one big uncertain turmoil:) - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
Pantalones Piscado Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:39:00 - [54] there are no goons amirite Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
SirMolle Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:40:00 - [55] Question has been asked and answered before.
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:40:00 - [56] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Plim Originally by: Riwer We could hire MC to wardec ourselves. I think they would find that a little paradoxical. We did try that once but Seleene turned Blacklight's offer down. I believe the offer was made during the 2005 Fanfest, if my memory serves me correctly. lol:) - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:52:00 - [57] Originally by: Mitch Taylor There is an element of defeat in these posts, more and more so in recent days. I look at the current political map and think what if? I wish more people would have that outlook and made something happen. EVE is about pushing the limits of possibility, BoB did it and now they arguably at the peak of their game. So what? everyone else gives up do they because someone has achieved so much? I love this game and spend a huge amount of my time playing it. The only thing that is dear to me in this game is my corp, its development and its goals. I look at BoB and it inspires me to succeed, not give up. Now snap out of it folks, this game is meant to be hard, lets make new history shall we. The irony of this post is mind-numbing. -------------------------------------
Tempest Kane Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:54:00 - [58] /me hovers finger over the reset standings to all button.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:56:00 - [59] Originally by: Tempest Kane /me hovers finger over the reset standings to all button. I only wish I had done it sooner. -------------------------------------
Annu Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:11:00 - [60] snip Trolling. -Elmo Pug
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:17:00 - [61] Edited by: Sir Lolle on 29/05/2007 18:15:54 After BoB takes over eve everyone will be able to mine in peace and lag shall no longer exist and anyone will be able to MSN anyone else without some dumb goons ruining it Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:17:00 - [62] Edited by: Sir Lolle on 29/05/2007 18:15:54 After BoB takes over eve everyone will be able to mine in peace and lag shall no longer exist and anyone will be able to MSN anyone else without some dumb goons ruining it Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
violator2k5 Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:18:00 - [63] you guys seem to forget that when and if we do control all of 0.0 there will always be targets maybe nothing on a grand scale at first unless people start networking properly to organise something to take back regions. new alliances are born from the death / slow death of others, hence more possible targets ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
violator2k5 Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:18:00 - [64] you guys seem to forget that when and if we do control all of 0.0 there will always be targets maybe nothing on a grand scale at first unless people start networking properly to organise something to take back regions. new alliances are born from the death / slow death of others, hence more possible targets ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:39:00 - [65] Hey earthan m8, there's not really an issue. We could maybe theoretically take sovereignty over alot of space, or have our name on the map for it as part of our lil empire, but there'll always be parts we don't own, corps we don't control, and fleets nad pos's that need to be destroyed. People didn't give up when we killed off PA, alot of them went and formed G, who we've later had enjoyable battles with. The same will simply happen again, and again, and again. Eve always changes, and every major change equals opportunity. [center] Old blog
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:39:00 - [66] Hey earthan m8, there's not really an issue. We could maybe theoretically take sovereignty over alot of space, or have our name on the map for it as part of our lil empire, but there'll always be parts we don't own, corps we don't control, and fleets nad pos's that need to be destroyed. People didn't give up when we killed off PA, alot of them went and formed G, who we've later had enjoyable battles with. The same will simply happen again, and again, and again. Eve always changes, and every major change equals opportunity. [center] Old blog
Spacejew GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:50:00 - [67] Originally by: Sir Lolle Edited by: Sir Lolle on 29/05/2007 18:15:54 After BoB takes over eve everyone will be able to mine in peace and lag shall no longer exist and anyone will be able to MSN anyone else without some dumb goons ruining it I for one look forward to this day. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Spacejew GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:50:00 - [68] Originally by: Sir Lolle Edited by: Sir Lolle on 29/05/2007 18:15:54 After BoB takes over eve everyone will be able to mine in peace and lag shall no longer exist and anyone will be able to MSN anyone else without some dumb goons ruining it I for one look forward to this day. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:54:00 - [69] Originally by: Rod Blaine Hey earthan m8, there's not really an issue. We could maybe theoretically take sovereignty over alot of space, or have our name on the map for it as part of our lil empire, but there'll always be parts we don't own, corps we don't control, and fleets nad pos's that need to be destroyed. People didn't give up when we killed off PA, alot of them went and formed G, who we've later had enjoyable battles with. The same will simply happen again, and again, and again. Eve always changes, and every major change equals opportunity. Heh, half of the alliances already allied themselves with you out of convenience, most of the other half seem tired with the whole alliance warfare. I think you overestimate the fighting spirit of most of Eve. signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.29 18:54:00 - [70] Originally by: Rod Blaine Hey earthan m8, there's not really an issue. We could maybe theoretically take sovereignty over alot of space, or have our name on the map for it as part of our lil empire, but there'll always be parts we don't own, corps we don't control, and fleets nad pos's that need to be destroyed. People didn't give up when we killed off PA, alot of them went and formed G, who we've later had enjoyable battles with. The same will simply happen again, and again, and again. Eve always changes, and every major change equals opportunity. Heh, half of the alliances already allied themselves with you out of convenience, most of the other half seem tired with the whole alliance warfare. I think you overestimate the fighting spirit of most of Eve. signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
LadyScarlet Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 19:38:00 - [71] Edited by: LadyScarlet on 29/05/2007 19:37:30 The day we win eve i would like to see us take on concord claim Jita as our final prize just to watch molle and Orange titan bowl the undock point of the 4/4 station to dang bad its not low sec ;/
LadyScarlet Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 19:38:00 - [72] Edited by: LadyScarlet on 29/05/2007 19:37:30 The day we win eve i would like to see us take on concord claim Jita as our final prize just to watch molle and Orange titan bowl the undock point of the 4/4 station to dang bad its not low sec ;/
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.05.29 19:39:00 - [73] Originally by: Tempest Kane /me hovers finger over the reset standings to all button. [sarcastic] So thats why CCP are adding that in. [/sarcastic] SJ. CLS CEO, Valainloce Executor and Standings Director =-
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.05.29 19:39:00 - [74] Originally by: Tempest Kane /me hovers finger over the reset standings to all button. [sarcastic] So thats why CCP are adding that in. [/sarcastic] SJ. CLS CEO, Valainloce Executor and Standings Director =-
Atropos Kahn Caldari Solarflare Heavy Industries Pure.	Posted - 2007.05.29 19:46:00 - [75] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. You're mixing up Eve & POTBS again. Noob. Yeah... someone else knows about this game!... I developed the Periauger for that game... WEEEEE!!!!
Atropos Kahn Caldari Solarflare Heavy Industries Pure.	Posted - 2007.05.29 19:46:00 - [76] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. You're mixing up Eve & POTBS again. Noob. Yeah... someone else knows about this game!... I developed the Periauger for that game... WEEEEE!!!!
Dr Shameless Skull Soft Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.05.29 19:57:00 - [77] when they are done they will turn it all into a pet cemetery :)
Dr Shameless Skull Soft Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.05.29 19:57:00 - [78] when they are done they will turn it all into a pet cemetery :)
Dal Thrax Caldari Multiverse Corporation The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.05.29 20:02:00 - [79] Originally by: Hans Roaming CCP opens a dimension gate to eve china and the fight starts!!! As a side note, what's been happening in eve china lately? Peak server load 3000 normal load around 600 last I heard. Dal Things I learned playing PnP RPGs: 1)Always assume that the players will bring the maximum available firepower against a objective.
Dal Thrax Caldari Multiverse Corporation The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.05.29 20:02:00 - [80] Originally by: Hans Roaming CCP opens a dimension gate to eve china and the fight starts!!! As a side note, what's been happening in eve china lately? Peak server load 3000 normal load around 600 last I heard. Dal Things I learned playing PnP RPGs: 1)Always assume that the players will bring the maximum available firepower against a objective.
DeckardIRL Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 20:10:00 - [81] Be time to open a wormhole to the chinese server... Deck _____________________________________________ Xelas Fleet Admiral
DeckardIRL Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 20:10:00 - [82] Be time to open a wormhole to the chinese server... Deck _____________________________________________ Xelas Fleet Admiral
Mitch Taylor Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.05.29 20:50:00 - [83] Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Mitch Taylor There is an element of defeat in these posts, more and more so in recent days. I look at the current political map and think what if? I wish more people would have that outlook and made something happen. EVE is about pushing the limits of possibility, BoB did it and now they arguably at the peak of their game. So what? everyone else gives up do they because someone has achieved so much? I love this game and spend a huge amount of my time playing it. The only thing that is dear to me in this game is my corp, its development and its goals. I look at BoB and it inspires me to succeed, not give up. Now snap out of it folks, this game is meant to be hard, lets make new history shall we. The irony of this post is mind-numbing. Irony? hows so. Oh I see, as im on the BoB side im some how playing in easy mode. Dian beats us, if that makes you feel any better. Dark-Rising
The Dokter 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.29 22:31:00 - [84] Originally by: DeckardIRL Be time to open a wormhole to the chinese server... Deck Would love that All the people BOB and friends relieve of there 0.0 stations will be in empire/low/other regions in 0.0. So if BOB takes enough space, there will be a couple of spots really stubborn. After that some people reset there standings, others leave their rented region and go else where. And then in 9 months we are back where we started, with new alliance names, new enemies and the same posts on eve-o "It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you."
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.29 23:26:00 - [85] Originally by: DubanFP I mean i could see it happening, the day this happens things will get boring. I could totally see the 2-3 most powerful alliances meeting "likely BoB and possibly MC" and then have a big draft in which they pick teams for some pewpew. MC: I'll take Fix BoB: Hmm i'll grab Xeles ect, ect. I take it those picks you chose to illustrate the draft concept were the ones from the end of the 7th round right?
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 23:42:00 - [86] Something i have always thought would be cool would be the oppurtunity to even for a short time, take hold of some empire space and turn it into 0.0. Words could not describe my joy of turning jita into 0.0 for a few days. The bob empire will be so big that in a rp sense it would certainly be feasible but, it's pretty obvious why that would never happen BoB vs the coalition of family values
Popsikle Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 23:53:00 - [87] Originally by: Earthan ( for very various reasons imho most importan twre: arrogance and pure stupididty combined with turtle syndrom) WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Someone else who uses "Turtle syndrome" like its a real disease ;p __________________________________________
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 00:00:00 - [88] After we win , BOB Re education and Re hab program will start for the following enteties to teah them accordingly: - D2 to actualy start fighting instead of dreaming about fighting us. - RZR to understand that alliance warfare is bigger than nanoed roaming gangs. - Iron to step out of the D2 closet. - RA to rehab from complex withdrawel syndrome and some minor side effects like stabs, logofski and some other nasty stuff. - Goons prob send them to the zerg home plant. - Invictus to stop being bitter and wake up to realise that ASCN war is over. Tough task ahead and will take more effort than what we already did in this war Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.30 00:12:00 - [89] Originally by: The Dokter And then in 9 months we are back where we started, with new alliance names, new enemies and the same posts on eve-o In a bygone era, before massive Cap fleets and clones made multi-theatre war possible, and especially before Supercapitals you might have been right. In order to challenge BoB in a post-Ragoon world, you'll need to be able to be churning out supercapitals. Unless CCP allows supercapitals to be built in Empire, BoB will finish you off before you have finished your first Titan. No, this is the endgame, enjoy it while it lasts.
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.05.30 00:20:00 - [90] Originally by: Darkstar BP Originally by: The Dokter And then in 9 months we are back where we started, with new alliance names, new enemies and the same posts on eve-o In a bygone era, before massive Cap fleets and clones made multi-theatre war possible, and especially before Supercapitals you might have been right. In order to challenge BoB in a post-Ragoon world, you'll need to be able to be churning out supercapitals. Unless CCP allows supercapitals to be built in Empire, BoB will finish you off before you have finished your first Titan. No, this is the endgame, enjoy it while it lasts. Personally I cannot wait until the war is done and BoB turns on RISE, EO, FIX and so on out of boredom. CAOD will be exactly the same as it is now, of course, except with different corp tags next to threads about how broken titans are. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.30 00:27:00 - [91] Originally by: Sir Lolle Personally I cannot wait until the war is done and BoB turns on RISE, EO, FIX and so on out of boredom. CAOD will be exactly the same as it is now, of course, except with different corp tags next to threads about how broken titans are. No, there is a difference with a year ago. A year ago or so BoB was the 5th largest entity. If BoB defeats RAGoon, and Goons go elsewhere they will be the largest entity, bigger than Rise and Fix combined. Now, maybe Rise or Fix would be allowed to build supercapitals, but I'm sure that it would be closely monitored. If they become to big, they run the risk of being the 'next biggest challenge'...so pointless.
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 00:32:00 - [92] Edited by: Rebellion on 30/05/2007 00:32:40 If and when BoB conquers everything, in all likelihood, I think CCP would double the size of the EVE universe, and probably make it difficult for us to cross over to the new areas, so that new player groups can form and grow before having to fight BoB. Think about the word: Jove.
Herculite Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 00:41:00 - [93] One thing to learn from the coalition, is don't start talking about someone being conquered when they still have people willing to fight and cap ships. In February, it was all 'BoB has no chance' 'What will happen with BoB space' 'Will the BoB corps stay together'. Now its 'When BoB takes over 0.0'. It ain't over yet by a long shot.
THE RIZA GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 00:58:00 - [94] Edited by: THE RIZA on 30/05/2007 00:59:44 Edited by: THE RIZA on 30/05/2007 00:57:19 OP NOT A BOB ALT Seriously though, holding all of 0.0? Oh I get it, a goon posted this. Quote: If and when BoB conquers everything, in all likelihood, I think CCP would double the size of the EVE universe, and probably make it difficult for us to cross over to the new areas, so that new player groups can form and grow before having to fight BoB. So you're suggesting that BoB has been absorbed into the ranks of CCP? No wai "There will be no cover up" - CCP Arkanon
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.30 01:19:00 - [95] Edited by: Seleene on 30/05/2007 01:39:20 Originally by: Aterna My thoughts: BoB will pull MC out of the north soon, and send them after AAA/IAC. The areas now controlled by MC will be turned over to alliances such as YouWhat, M. Pire. and others. BoB will not have sovereignty over the outposts, they will allow the north to stay under the control of others. Perhaps ISS can revive itself by buying outposts across the north? They will fight RA and co. for months. While they do, the North will rebuild, just like it did after the GNW. Corps who have been in the north for their entire existence will come back and the cycle will continue. Back in the BoB/RA war, BoB will have reclaimed most of the regions lost by LV, and went on to push several RA allies north into Goon space, and MC will have worked over AAA and IAC with the help of FIX and the southern allies. Wow... that's really giving us too much credit TBH. We rarely plan stuff more than a week in advance because war has a way of slapping you in the face when you lest expect it. For example, most weeks in MC lately have gone something like this: Mynas comes up with a plan to take a region in a week. We tell him he is nuts. Waagaa and I tease Loxy about being Caldari while mom-bombing 40+ BS fleets. Jin logs in late and misses the fight, but that's okay because Wyverns suck. Max, Dri and Dol's eyes bleed from shooting starbases until 4 am. Mynas screams at people about logistics and how we are all slackers. Blues shoot us. We shoot back. Standings get fixed. Nubiam and Nighthawk *** about having to always FC then gloat about, "Did you see the kill board, Sel??" Shadowjet solo ganks 3 BS in his inteceptor while War Bear gets webbed and dies. A lot. Neurotic Cat & Squagel build more motherships; much enemy whinage ensues. Crovan sings on TS; everyone gets +10 to hit. Region is conquered. Mynas asks why we aren't attacking the next region yet then ***es about logistics some more. Exekias creates a cool banner, forcing me to make an EVE-O post. Our kill board gets spammed to hell and crashes. We all mine. The End. EDIT - Vily (The Man) feels left out. - Vid - 'P-2 Defense'
Vily Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.30 01:32:00 - [96] and then Vily feels LEFT OUT!!!! -
papaPadla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 02:28:00 - [97] Originally by: Axia Firehead the RAGOON federation will not be beaten so easily. we will hold and figth bob up to our last breath. you have no idea that will happend. nothing is done yet.. really nothing. bob win some battle, we won some as well. the war is not over yet, far from this, and next year, the war still be here. we won t let BOB win, no matter the cost for us. we will win, because we have no more choice to free new eden from this evil empire. You quoting ascn or what? -------------------------------------
Constantinee Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.05.30 02:33:00 - [98] Originally by: Earthan You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. Unless some jedi arise suddenly:) imho you should have crashed in around2-3 months all oposition and populated 0.0 with your pet- alliances.Kudos to you, impressive. Now what i wonder what is next for BOB? I mean there will be no challenge left,im not sure if i would have fun anymore being in yuor place.. Sure prolly there will be groups of die hard freedom fighters in npc stations (me me :) ) in 0.0, but i think that will be all left to fight and wont be to fun... So do you think you will still have fun flying in space once all 0.0 is more or less yours ( less the npc stations 0.0 )? ever hear of defense? tbh once bob has all of 0.0 theyll have the most fun cause theyll be attacked all the time. there will be huge battles all over 0.0 bring on the fun. Omerta Syndicate
MIGHTYDWC Gallente Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.30 03:01:00 - [99] Originally by: Seleene War Bear gets webbed and dies. In defence of War Bear, he's made the Benny Hill theme song a new favorite on TS. /me goes back to scraping corpses of the MOMs so the kittens don't have to.
War Bear Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.30 03:06:00 - [100] Originally by: MIGHTYDWC Originally by: Seleene War Bear gets webbed and dies. In defence of War Bear, he's made the Benny Hill theme song a new favorite on TS. /me goes back to scraping corpses of the MOMs so the kittens don't have to. For a good time click linky under sig. \ 0_o / Everything is funny with the Benny Hill theme song
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.05.30 04:27:00 - [101] Originally by: violator2k5 you guys seem to forget that when and if we do control all of 0.0 there will always be targets maybe nothing on a grand scale at first unless people start networking properly to organise something to take back regions. Unless of course the same thing happens again, that happened due to this scenario before. 80% of the entire playerbase leaving (which would prolly be like 95% of the 0.0 playerbase) would mean bankrupty for CCP. If that happens feel free to chestbeat again.
Anton Marx Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad The OSS	Posted - 2007.05.30 06:32:00 - [102] Of all the posts, I mostly embrace the idea of dimensional gate between the Chinese server and Tranquility. In fact, why wait until BoB wins EVE? If CCP are waiting for that to happen, it indeed looks like as if that's the end-goal of the game.. ..Scary :P
Reilly Jax	Posted - 2007.05.30 07:07:00 - [103] frankly the idea of bob controling all of 0.0 space doesnt seem too difficult given todays methods of controlling space. Acual bob soverign space probably wont expand at all after the war is over. their allies might not even grow. but there is one thing that is certian. they, at the end of this war, will be the only ones with a significant capital ship fleet still intact. all others will be trying to rebuild their ravaged fleets. many say that they cannot controll the space, i disagree. Eden is alot smaller then it used to be, cyno jump networks, warp to 0. I immagine it would only take a few hours to move their 200+ capital ship fleet to anywhere in the galaxy. given the state of pos warfare, they realy dont need to move any faster then when a pos comes out of reinforced, so theyd have 24 hours to respond to any insurection into their space. nobody in this game can muster enough pilots to counter their super fleet, you all know... the one with over a hundred dreds 50+ carriers 20-30 motherships, 3 titans. nobody! it would take thousands of pilots to take that down... but wait? never more then 700 in the system. it would be difficult but i could be done. And that is with all parties fighting fair... and giving bob's history of questionable tactics -but completely within this games amazingly flexible rules (if they want to call them that)- i doubt it will be that hard indeed. im sure somebody will oppose them, then again, i doubt it... much easier to just pay rent.
Charles Case Caldari Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 07:32:00 - [104] Originally by: Anton Marx If CCP are waiting for that to happen, it indeed looks like as if that's the end-goal of the game.. CCP is makingit happen. Your signature has been deemed inappropriate. If you have any questions about this please Mail the Mods be sure to include a link to your signature. -Darth Patches
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.30 07:38:00 - [105] Originally by: Popsikle Originally by: Earthan ( for very various reasons imho most importan twre: arrogance and pure stupididty combined with turtle syndrom) WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Someone else who uses "Turtle syndrome" like its a real disease ;p OFC it isnt disease as such.But i think we have seen enough both here and in rl to state that isolationist politics when a major conquer driven force roam around and hits your noeighbors isnt very smart... - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
Indomitus Rex Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 07:44:00 - [106] Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. Guys. . . Guys. . . Dark Shikari's HUGE INTELLECT AND EGO RULES 0.0! Guys....the blue robots.... snip - signature removed, email us with a link if you want to know why. -Ivan K
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.30 07:45:00 - [107] Originally by: Rod Blaine Hey earthan m8, there's not really an issue. We could maybe theoretically take sovereignty over alot of space, or have our name on the map for it as part of our lil empire, but there'll always be parts we don't own, corps we don't control, and fleets nad pos's that need to be destroyed. People didn't give up when we killed off PA, alot of them went and formed G, who we've later had enjoyable battles with. The same will simply happen again, and again, and again. Eve always changes, and every major change equals opportunity. Would be nice but i am nto so sure. Eve has changed , with poses and capital fleets and souveregnity.To control some part of 0.0 you need to kil poses to build yours.And with the time to take it bob can awlys arrive and save the day for their pets. Also as someone mentioned when bob wins 0.0 all former powers will have scraps of their capital fleets. Unless a ofc a true charismatic leader arises to unite anti-bob forces and has enough rl time to do it.. - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
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Charles Case Caldari Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 07:52:00 - [109] Originally by: Indomitus Rex Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. Guys. . . Guys. . . Dark Shikari's HUGE INTELLECT AND EGO RULES 0.0! Guys....the blue robots.... i love how the gimmick doesn't even make sense. Your signature has been deemed inappropriate. If you have any questions about this please Mail the Mods be sure to include a link to your signature. -Darth Patches
Ruffryder1167 Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 07:58:00 - [110] Originally by: Hans Roaming CCP opens a dimension gate to eve china and the fight starts!!! As a side note, what's been happening in eve china lately? im sure lots of mining, and snip - please don't go there. -Ivan K
Indomitus Rex Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 08:02:00 - [111] Originally by: Charles Case Edited by: Charles Case on 30/05/2007 07:55:32 Originally by: Indomitus Rex Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. Guys. . . Guys. . . Dark Shikari's HUGE INTELLECT AND EGO RULES 0.0! Guys....the blue robots.... i love how the gimmick doesn't even make sense. edit: by love i mean hate Is it my fault if you Goons can only think in HURF and DURF? I love your witty replies tho. edit: by love i mean hate snip - signature removed, email us with a link if you want to know why. -Ivan K
Waut 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.30 08:10:00 - [112] Eventually, some unknown rookie pilot from a backwater planet will join the Rebellion. Then, in a suicide attack he'll manage to do a wrecking hit at Sirmolle's titan, blowing it up instantly. Sirmolle gets podded and his evil Galactic Empire will fall into civil war. So sayeth the prophecy In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU
Slayton Ford Vindicate and Deliverance ASGARDIAN EMPIRE	Posted - 2007.05.30 08:20:00 - [113] Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 30/05/2007 00:32:40 If and when BoB conquers everything, in all likelihood, I think CCP would double the size of the EVE universe, and probably make it difficult for us to cross over to the new areas, so that new player groups can form and grow before having to fight BoB. Think about the word: Jove. It still doesnt matter though. BoB already has the foundation laid to take any new area and install puppet alliances there if need be. With the advent of supercaps, the indestructible titans (killing pilotless titans doesnt count), the lead number of high SP pilots BoB has; there is no way to catch you. I've said it before. Between direct soverignty, servents such as Rise/Fix/Xelas/MC, pets/slaves/renters such as EO/SC/RMF/ISS, or alliances who while being independent understand that there place in the hierarchy is still under BoB such as YouWhat or M.Pire; between all these BoB will control all of 0.0 worth controlling. Anyone who doesnt want to be under the direct or indirect thump of BoB will be forced into the ever crowded drone regions or into s**thole regions like Syndicate. Grats CCP, you created a great sandbox of a game. Unfortunatly you have also helped (by your actions and inactions) one alliance become supreme overlord of that sandbox and as more people see this, the will just take there $14.95 a month and go somewhere else.
Slinktress Gallente legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 08:58:00 - [114] My humble question: Can Fire have some shore leave now, please? <3
Ztrain Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 09:05:00 - [115] Originally by: Earthan Also as someone mentioned when bob wins 0.0 all former powers will have scraps of their capital fleets. Not true at all!! Look at DS1 and STK. They lost a 4 month war with BoB and their capital fleets survived without a scratch. Z
Charcoal Gallente The Garden	Posted - 2007.05.30 09:40:00 - [116] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Plim Originally by: Riwer We could hire MC to wardec ourselves. I think they would find that a little paradoxical. We did try that once but Seleene turned Blacklight's offer down. I believe the offer was made during the 2005 Fanfest, if my memory serves me correctly. Obviously MC were just sticking to their stated policies about accepting contracts, and Seleene just didn't think much of the plan
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 09:53:00 - [117] Originally by: Slinktress My humble question: Can Fire have some shore leave now, please? <3 <3 . You're the one lass who is too hot to handle , puurrrrr Factual devblog strikes goonswarm propoganda , wrecking for toys thrown out of the pram damage
Danti Shidomu Gallente New Career Move	Posted - 2007.05.30 09:53:00 - [118] Originally by: Mitch Taylor There is an element of defeat in these posts, more and more so in recent days. I look at the current political map and think what if? I wish more people would have that outlook and made something happen. EVE is about pushing the limits of possibility, BoB did it and now they arguably at the peak of their game. So what? everyone else gives up do they because someone has achieved so much? I love this game and spend a huge amount of my time playing it. The only thing that is dear to me in this game is my corp, its development and its goals. I look at BoB and it inspires me to succeed, not give up. Now snap out of it folks, this game is meant to be hard, lets make new history shall we. Mate, you're my CEO brother that I never had. Amen and GL :P. Fly Safe all, best to BoB, may the enemies of BoB grow to proper organisation, and may a new generation of Alliances rise to replace the loosely ties coalition, and form a strong organisational power vs BoB. :D No love to see BoB die, but simply seeing BoB&Co as the biggest challenge in 0.0 atm. Cheers mates!
Montero Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.05.30 09:58:00 - [119] hai bob you like my tongue up their? oh it's good --------- Scrapheap Challenge
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.30 10:01:00 - [120] BOB cannot win unless all that intend to remove them from the game leave themselves. I for one am still here. What about you?
Ling Xiao Prism Project Technologies	Posted - 2007.05.30 10:06:00 - [121] Who me? Yeah I'm still here I guess __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing?
Chuck Dawg Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 10:23:00 - [122] Everyone keeps trying to use the whole BoB Pet alliance excuse as to a way for them to control 0.0 but I doubt that'd happen. If they did eventually control most of 0.0 it would get extremely boring for all pro Bob forces and the majority of their pets would decent and fight against bob just to have some fun again. Thats my quick 2cents..
Yuki Valentine Pelennor Swarm R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.30 10:44:00 - [123] It's a vicious circle. This war was over from the start. It's the admitting of failure that's taking too much time. The past is a prophecy for the future. Heed its words. Absolution leads only to damnation. Till then, let's shaddup and pew. Accidentally yours, Yuki Valentine Director Assistant of Pelennor Swarm
Indomitus Rex Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 10:52:00 - [124] Edited by: Indomitus Rex on 30/05/2007 10:51:15 Originally by: Yuki Valentine It's a vicious circle. This war was over from the start. Don't you know you're just a pet and that only Molle gets to say epic quotes like "You're all dead yet, you just don't know it."? Quit cutting in on his territory before he ups your rent even more or contacts a dev friend through MSN to give you the boot. snip - signature removed, email us with a link if you want to know why. -Ivan K
Yuki Valentine Pelennor Swarm R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.30 11:04:00 - [125] Originally by: Indomitus Rex Edited by: Indomitus Rex on 30/05/2007 10:51:15 Originally by: Yuki Valentine It's a vicious circle. This war was over from the start. Don't you know you're just a pet and that only Molle gets to say epic quotes like "You're all dead yet, you just don't know it."? Quit cutting in on his territory before he ups your rent even more or contacts a dev friend through MSN to give you the boot. Every action creates a reaction. I was merely stating the fact as I perceive it. Intrepret them as you perceive it. It's your freedom, if such is allowed. I can type up a three-pages long discussion about why I, personally, think the war was over from the start, but it's rather a moot point as this stage of the war. Let's go down in history as fierce warriors, who fought and died for what they believe in, whichever that might be, and not as bitter losers, who can't simply accept the inevitable failure that they've helped created. In short, pew. Accidentally yours, Yuki Valentine Director Assistant of Pelennor Swarm
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.05.30 11:20:00 - [126] Originally by: Seleene Wow... that's really giving us too much credit TBH. We rarely plan stuff more than a week in advance because war has a way of slapping you in the face when you lest expect it. For example, most weeks in MC lately have gone something like this: Mynas comes up with a plan to take a region in a week. We tell him he is nuts. Waagaa and I tease Loxy about being Caldari while mom-bombing 40+ BS fleets. Jin logs in late and misses the fight, but that's okay because Wyverns suck. Max, Dri and Dol's eyes bleed from shooting starbases until 4 am. Mynas screams at people about logistics and how we are all slackers. Blues shoot us. We shoot back. Standings get fixed. Nubiam and Nighthawk *** about having to always FC then gloat about, "Did you see the kill board, Sel??" Shadowjet solo ganks 3 BS in his inteceptor while War Bear gets webbed and dies. A lot. Neurotic Cat & Squagel build more motherships; much enemy whinage ensues. Crovan sings on TS; everyone gets +10 to hit. Region is conquered. Mynas asks why we aren't attacking the next region yet then ***es about logistics some more. Exekias creates a cool banner, forcing me to make an EVE-O post. Our kill board gets spammed to hell and crashes. We all mine. The End. EDIT - Vily (The Man) feels left out. Classic Sounds like my corp but we got less pvp. That's the reason I play this game, I don't care who controls what and how: just here to have fun.
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.30 11:57:00 - [127] Originally by: Yuki Valentine Let's go down in history as fierce warriors, who fought and died for what they believe in Now I quite like RISE, they are a nice bunch for the most part, with almost no smack and no sploity behaviour but lets be honest, what will RISE go down as in eve history? Now I know they wont spin it this way as they still need you guys but everyone knows this is bob's war and bob's victory. They are the ones that (to the extent anyone will) will get "remembered". Like in everyone fave battle in Thermopylae, no-one remembers the thousands of allies that were also there as the arrow fodder, they just remember the 300 Spartans directing the whole thing (though someonehow I dont see anyone making a major motion picture about this ).
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.05.30 12:09:00 - [128] Originally by: Earthan Edited by: Earthan on 30/05/2007 11:55:57 I think its wrong cause BOB in PA times ( lol come to think of it actually i was fighting yet in BOB then) didnt install their pets after dismantling the enemy.They learned the smart trick later. Good point, but until changes to sovereignty, corps can wait it out in NPC stations, attack from empire, etc etc. Unless BoB is going to come out and wield the mallet to save its 'pets' everytime they they face serious opposition, there's a few I would be very suspicious of in their ability to hold their space.
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.30 12:17:00 - [129] Originally by: Locus Bey Originally by: Earthan Edited by: Earthan on 30/05/2007 11:55:57 I think its wrong cause BOB in PA times ( lol come to think of it actually i was fighting yet in BOB then) didnt install their pets after dismantling the enemy.They learned the smart trick later. Good point, but until changes to sovereignty, corps can wait it out in NPC stations, attack from empire, etc etc. Unless BoB is going to come out and wield the mallet to save its 'pets' everytime they they face serious opposition, there's a few I would be very suspicious of in their ability to hold their space. It doesnt matter. No-one is going to put up loads of large POS, move all their stuff to a deep 0.0 station and in particular no-one is going to put up cap shipyards when they know that any time they want to bob/mc can drop the hammer on them and wipe out the POS etc. You will get lots of attacks on the pets but they will be the harrassment style attacks of an outbreak type and all the pets need to do there is refuse to undock for a week while the attackers get bored and go elsewhere, not a threat to sov type attack.
lance goodtrusts	Posted - 2007.05.30 12:20:00 - [130] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Cheyenne Shadowborn Caldari Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.05.30 12:25:00 - [131] Originally by: Indiano Arko Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. I heard there may be a bonus level. With Cows. -- CCP: PLEASE fix the forum software - thanks.
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 12:53:00 - [132] Again, IF (big IF), we end up asserting full control over 0.0, there's still empire. There's also the huge possibility that the game will change as well. For example, if BOB controlled 0.0 to such an undeniable degree that even EVE itself as an entity acknowledged it, then it might not be a far stretch to think that the factions would feel threatened. The Caldari, Minmatar, Amarr (especially after we attacked Kor-Azor during the coronation ceremonies) or even Jove might recognize BOB as an entity and treat its members differently. Just throwing wild ideas here, but Jove stations or systems could pop up all over the place (oh, maybe use the reasoning that they were previously inaccessible and undetectable because of Jove technology) that BOB would be denied access to because the Jove considered it as a rival faction. I have no idea what or where CCP will take this without even thinking about how walking in stations or the other goofy things CCP thinks up would impact EVE. What I do know is this: anyone who begins something with a defeated mentality will have a much lower chance of success. I've tried to head off a repeat of what we've seen from past opponents by posting something like this. Maybe I'm wrong, some think I'm right. I think EVE is such a big place that even those of us who only look at 0.0 as a big game of Risk fail to see the complex events that occur daily in other aspects of EVE.
Montero Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 12:56:00 - [133] Actualy my bets are that you'd have a huge lack of targets, get bored and fall apart due to internal squabling. Tends to be what happens to large military powers in Eve when they stagnate (which you;d have no choice over if you controlled everything). snip Not appropriate - hutch
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.30 13:00:00 - [134] Originally by: Rebellion Again, IF (big IF), we end up asserting full control over 0.0, there's still empire. There's also the huge possibility that the game will change as well. For example, if BOB controlled 0.0 to such an undeniable degree that even EVE itself as an entity acknowledged it, then it might not be a far stretch to think that the factions would feel threatened. The Caldari, Minmatar, Amarr (especially after we attacked Kor-Azor during the coronation ceremonies) or even Jove might recognize BOB as an entity and treat its members differently. Just throwing wild ideas here, but Jove stations or systems could pop up all over the place (oh, maybe use the reasoning that they were previously inaccessible and undetectable because of Jove technology) that BOB would be denied access to because the Jove considered it as a rival faction. I have no idea what or where CCP will take this without even thinking about how walking in stations or the other goofy things CCP thinks up would impact EVE. What I do know is this: anyone who begins something with a defeated mentality will have a much lower chance of success. I've tried to head off a repeat of what we've seen from past opponents by posting something like this. Maybe I'm wrong, some think I'm right. I think EVE is such a big place that even those of us who only look at 0.0 as a big game of Risk fail to see the complex events that occur daily in other aspects of EVE. What we will see happen is that noone will fight you anymore. You can install all your little pets all over, and anyone you get angry with will see local fill up with half a dozen titans, motherships, and a dreadblob. They will just logout, sit in station or move to Empire or NPC 0.0 space and you can sit there all day long shooting POSes. Come on, you see how entity after entity is dropping out from fighting you. You seriously expect a new alliance to stand up to fight you and your 5000 fawning fanboys? signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
darth solo Insurgency	Posted - 2007.05.30 13:32:00 - [135] i just cant believe that all the good fighters that have been involved against BOB have had such a hard time. In fleet fights BOB arnt that hard to destroy, i sometimes look at the BOB KB and see 20-30bs lost while killing NO BOB. whats that all about?.. any equal fight i was in against BOB we killed as many as we lost, many times more. u just pick the fights, excel in a cerain area, IE close/long/medium and practice at it, then try ur best to fight using these tactics. call properly and make sure everyone shhots primaries. BOB will flame me, as if they need an excuse , but one thing they cant say was that celes apoc didnt give them good fights. look at outbreak/celes taking on 2 BOB corps and doing very well, i know celes apoc werent at our strongest but we were still there. can u imagine 5-6 good pvp corps?... BOb would be in serious trouble. obviously the capital thing would be an issue,. but in hit and run fights it would be a diff story. as for the xelas situation, OMG... D2 couldnt even take them on, celes apoc as one corp farmed them and controlled the core of fountain easilly. even XS have to admit that our boys gave them a good kickin. maybe we trained them for when D2 arrived, who knows. BObs dedication to the game has to be respected though, im glad its not me though. d solo. celes apoc new kilboard
darth solo Insurgency	Posted - 2007.05.30 13:38:00 - [136] Originally by: Rebellion Again, IF (big IF), we end up asserting full control over 0.0, there's still empire. There's also the huge possibility that the game will change as well. For example, if BOB controlled 0.0 to such an undeniable degree that even EVE itself as an entity acknowledged it, then it might not be a far stretch to think that the factions would feel threatened. The Caldari, Minmatar, Amarr (especially after we attacked Kor-Azor during the coronation ceremonies) or even Jove might recognize BOB as an entity and treat its members differently.. thats a possibility, but it has to be alot better organised, and the trsut thing we have now in eve that everyone thinks BOb control the events wont be hard to shake off... we have been involved in a few events against BOB with the serpentis. we suicided our boys into the fights because we were looking for the rewards, rewards?, try a dom and 4-5 thorax.. well that will go along way to paying for our 10 lost bs, not .... everyone just needs to stop sucking at eve, then maybe BOB will be under threat. untill then we have a situation where all the power gamers and all the high skill point boys are in the same team. that can only lead to an imbalance thats not good for all of eve. d solo celes apoc new kilboard
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.05.30 13:42:00 - [137] Edited by: Greme on 30/05/2007 13:42:25 Edited by: Greme on 30/05/2007 13:41:46 Monsieur Solo is right, it's all about picking targets and planning ahead. I enjoyed the skirmishes we had with Insurgency very much, and respect their ability to tactically evaluate fights and maximise their effect. But for the alliance, the lack of tactical planning was at a level higher than simply a per fight manner. The sheer numbers and relative skill of the coalitions of the north and south should have been enough to take down even the most battle-hardened bob, but they did not use this to their full advantage. One thing I see as a major tactical flaw was the lack of simultaneous attacks on opposing sides of bob territory. With systematic pos takedowns at two front, the BoB army would have been severely stretched, but instead attacks seemed to occur in an almost alternating fashion, one in the north, one in the south. This simply meant that BoB could jump their cap fleet back over to the now starting battle after finishing off the previous one. Simulataneous attacks on two fronts may have resulted in things happening alot more differently.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 13:45:00 - [138] Originally by: darth solo i just cant believe that all the good fighters that have been involved against BOB have had such a hard time. Darth , putting everything aside i am gonna ask u a fair question , no flaming or trolling and just give an honest answer. Do you realy think that the coalition was a pack of good fighters ? I mean seriously. Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
HUGO DRAX DRAX INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2007.05.30 13:55:00 - [139] Wow been out of the game for about a year (overseas deployment situation) and I come back and still see the same BoB threads. Funny. Dont just complain, do something. Channel macrointel meet with likeminded folks, spottings,intel
Stormers Girlfriend	Posted - 2007.05.30 13:57:00 - [140] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: darth solo i just cant believe that all the good fighters that have been involved against BOB have had such a hard time. Darth , putting everything aside i am gonna ask u a fair question , no flaming or trolling and just give an honest answer. Do you realy think that the coalition was a pack of good fighters ? I mean seriously. You remove smack with your first words and add it with the second.
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.30 13:58:00 - [141] Originally by: Stormers Girlfriend Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: darth solo i just cant believe that all the good fighters that have been involved against BOB have had such a hard time. Darth , putting everything aside i am gonna ask u a fair question , no flaming or trolling and just give an honest answer. Do you realy think that the coalition was a pack of good fighters ? I mean seriously. You remove smack with your first words and add it with the second. STUPID FORUMS!!! Was me. Its just a game. Get over yourselfs.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.30 14:02:00 - [142] Originally by: HUGO DRAX Wow been out of the game for about a year (overseas deployment situation) and I come back and still see the same BoB threads. Funny. You missed the ~6 months without BoB posts, it was funny --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.30 14:04:00 - [143] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: darth solo i just cant believe that all the good fighters that have been involved against BOB have had such a hard time. Darth , putting everything aside i am gonna ask u a fair question , no flaming or trolling and just give an honest answer. Do you realy think that the coalition was a pack of good fighters ? I mean seriously. Well IMO the Coalition certainly had enough good fighters to wipe you from the face of Eve. The real issue here would be leadership, and not individual fighters. The greatest weakness of the Coalition quite obviously was coherence and strategy much more than individual fighting prowess. From the fallout between Roadkill/Smash and RA to the issues between D2 and Triumvirate, its the Coalition leadership that bears the guilt of the failure, and noone else. signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.05.30 14:07:00 - [144] Originally by: Malachon Draco Well IMO the Coalition certainly had enough good fighters to wipe you from the face of Eve. The real issue here would be leadership, and not individual fighters. The greatest weakness of the Coalition quite obviously was coherence and strategy much more than individual fighting prowess. From the fallout between Roadkill/Smash and RA to the issues between D2 and Triumvirate, its the Coalition leadership that bears the guilt of the failure, and noone else. This is what I mean, I do not doubt the ability of the fleet commanders on the Bob eradication force's side, or the fact that they had the ability to possibly beat BoB in fleet battles etc (or atleast reach a 'draw'). It's the higher up tactical decisions and leadership that seemed to be the main point of weakness.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 14:10:00 - [145] Originally by: Major Stormer Originally by: Stormers Girlfriend Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: darth solo i just cant believe that all the good fighters that have been involved against BOB have had such a hard time. Darth , putting everything aside i am gonna ask u a fair question , no flaming or trolling and just give an honest answer. Do you realy think that the coalition was a pack of good fighters ? I mean seriously. You remove smack with your first words and add it with the second. STUPID FORUMS!!! Was me. I was asking darth and ur name aint darth so keep your trolling to urself and ur alt unless you got nothing better to do than trolling in every bob related post. Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.30 14:15:00 - [146] Originally by: Greme Originally by: Malachon Draco Well IMO the Coalition certainly had enough good fighters to wipe you from the face of Eve. The real issue here would be leadership, and not individual fighters. The greatest weakness of the Coalition quite obviously was coherence and strategy much more than individual fighting prowess. From the fallout between Roadkill/Smash and RA to the issues between D2 and Triumvirate, its the Coalition leadership that bears the guilt of the failure, and noone else. This is what I mean, I do not doubt the ability of the fleet commanders on the Bob eradication force's side, or the fact that they had the ability to possibly beat BoB in fleet battles etc (or atleast reach a 'draw'). It's the higher up tactical decisions and leadership that seemed to be the main point of weakness. The main problem, I think, was an inability to work together with all the other alliances in terms of strategy. The best the Coalition could do is lag out F-TE. Imagine if, for example, the Coalition used their massive capital ship fleets to hit 5 BoB systems at once while BoB was all bottled up in F-TE? Delve could have been brought down in a week if they brought everything they had and split up rather than trying to put 2000 people in one system. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
TrulyKosh Solo for UNCLE Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 14:32:00 - [147] They form the "Band of Blothels" and invade the Chinese servers? I only invest in businesses that even a fool can run. Because some day a fool will. (Warren Buffett)
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:00:00 - [148] Edited by: Victor Vision on 30/05/2007 15:02:55 Originally by: Dark Shikari The main problem, I think, was an inability to work together with all the other alliances in terms of strategy. ... Imagine if, for example, the Coalition used their massive capital ship fleets to hit 5 BoB systems at once while BoB was all bottled up in F-TE? Delve could have been brought down in a week if they brought everything they had and split up rather than trying to put 2000 people in one system. QFT on all accounts. (Edited out an unneccessary comment you made ) BUT - the beauty of the coalition is (or was?) that it consists of a group of independant entities. Naturally the kind of coordination usefull in wars like this was much harder to achieve as on the BoB side. Most vets on the Coalition side knew this from the very beginning of the war. Actually I was pleased to see how well the Coalition held together. The real challenge for any vet is fighting on the Coalition side. This was true at the beginning of the war, and will stay this way till the war has ended. I can only invite daring alliances, corps and players looking for a real challenge to join the Coalition effort. (Not as spies, please ) EVE War I - Quick Overview (Feb/March)
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:36:00 - [149] Originally by: Victor Vision Edited by: Victor Vision on 30/05/2007 15:02:55 Originally by: Dark Shikari The main problem, I think, was an inability to work together with all the other alliances in terms of strategy. ... Imagine if, for example, the Coalition used their massive capital ship fleets to hit 5 BoB systems at once while BoB was all bottled up in F-TE? Delve could have been brought down in a week if they brought everything they had and split up rather than trying to put 2000 people in one system. QFT on all accounts. (Edited out an unneccessary comment you made ) BUT - the beauty of the coalition is (or was?) that it consists of a group of independant entities. Naturally the kind of coordination usefull in wars like this was much harder to achieve as on the BoB side. Most vets on the Coalition side knew this from the very beginning of the war. Actually I was pleased to see how well the Coalition held together. The real challenge for any vet is fighting on the Coalition side. This was true at the beginning of the war, and will stay this way till the war has ended. I can only invite daring alliances, corps and players looking for a real challenge to join the Coalition effort. (Not as spies, please ) Yuo know guys while imho its all true, it has been said like 1000 times over. Bob cant be in same place at same time lets attack at same time from 2 fronts etc... The problem is none of bigger alliances leaders really wants to do anythign until its him thats under siege.Until thne he says his allince is strong , you will see etc. And secretly thinks the other that falls under bob are weak noobies but he is uber. I remmber i have tried to orgnise something in norad to strike bob from 3 fronts like 1-1,5 years ago. Nobody was really interested , ofc maybe also i wasnt the best person to do it as i was no ceo of big corp and Norad was held in overall contempt ( imho its the most false image of all but thats another topic nvm.) Then when ASCN was under siege i was kinda expecting and advising D2 to attack bob while they are busy... I kinda remmber D2 saying we are strong and kinda dont need ASCN wich we dont like anyway. .... Thing is to lead a big coalition/alliance you must have tons of rl free time apart from other things, tons of experience, be reasonable , have charisma, be in a strong corp.The combinatio is not so easyily found. And BOB have these leaders and its structure is all very centralized/dictatorship wich makes it more easy. - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
Slayton Ford Vindicate and Deliverance ASGARDIAN EMPIRE	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:46:00 - [150] Originally by: Dark Shikari The main problem, I think, was an inability to work together with all the other alliances in terms of strategy. The best the Coalition could do is lag out F-TE. Imagine if, for example, the Coalition used their massive capital ship fleets to hit 5 BoB systems at once while BoB was all bottled up in F-TE? Delve could have been brought down in a week if they brought everything they had and split up rather than trying to put 2000 people in one system. You forget though that even if BoB was bottled in F-T that they still had there servants such as MC/FIX/Xelas and even Axe to help defend against any multi pronged attack.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 15:50:00 - [151] With the introduction of titans and multiple jump bridges, you'd be pretty surprised at how fast a fleet can rapidly deploy to another hot zone. I remember one time, iron and mm ( i think ) were sieging in querious and we managed to ambush them with the jump bridge. D2 had started sieging in fountain at the same time and immediately after the titans positioned themselves strategically and in no time at all we ambushed them also. The plan of attacking lots of different areas is a sound idea but with the logistical usefullness of titans and jump clones etc etc, a smaller dedicated force is entirely capacle of nullifying several hotzones. The problem with it also is which group would have to get melted so that the others could succeed, if they had to repeatedly die while others were untouched, they would start to get miffed and wouldn't be so keen to commit because they were taking the brunt of it. Alot of the ideas sound good on paper but there is so many variables. As darth said, we had many close fights that went both ways and was always edge of the seat stuff. Factual devblog strikes goonswarm propoganda , wrecking for toys thrown out of the pram damage
Xachar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:03:00 - [152] Once BoB controls all of 0.0 then the initiative will be on PvPers to band a force big enough to fight them back from now entrenched positions. Depending on the will of the attackers, two things will happen. The first is if the attackers have strong wills and take the field inch by inch and with a stamina greater than BoB and their allies. This will result in lots of PvP for those who enjoy it and a higher demand for ships and modules for the producers to have fun making more money. But this will center on the ability of the PvPers being able to quickly seize a pocket of 0.0 space in order to make money quickly. Otherwise they of course wouldnt be able to finance their habits, stagnate and eve will lose PvPers at an increasing rate. This ties to if the attackers have weak wills and decide BoB is too much effort to fight, PvPers leave eve at an increasing rate, this creates an economical depression since, well theres less PvPers to buy ships and modules. This results in an explosion in supply and a severe drop in demand, causing prices to collapse and producers making a lot less money. This results in producers not making as much money as they'd like and giving up on the game since it is no longer fun - so producers leave the game at an increasing rate. The same thing has happened on the chinese servers when one entity had total control. The result is that the number of subscribers takes an extreme hit and the ability for CCP to keep up with bandwidth costs of the server decreases. The game is left with an overentity covering 0.0 and the game full of people who run missions and make money in 0.0 for no reason. Since everyone is making money and no one is losing it, inflation gets out of hand and everyone that is left in the game becomes rediculously wealthy, distancing the elite with the new players and causing the new players to give up on the game. Eventually the wealthy get bored and leave. Well the game has to die sometime, BoB will just be accelerating an inevitable decline through their own mastery of the game. That's just the way things go in MMORPG's, they end one way or another.
papaPadla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:09:00 - [153] The JOVE are out there -------------------------------------
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:23:00 - [154] Originally by: Dawn Princess Now I quite like RISE, they are a nice bunch for the most part, with almost no smack and no sploity behaviour but lets be honest, what will RISE go down as in eve history? Now I know they wont spin it this way as they still need you guys but everyone knows this is bob's war and bob's victory. They are the ones that (to the extent anyone will) will get "remembered". Like in everyone fave battle in Thermopylae, no-one remembers the thousands of allies that were also there as the arrow fodder, they just remember the 300 Spartans directing the whole thing (though someonehow I dont see anyone making a major motion picture about this ). Your quite right. Thing is we, the members of RISE, know what have done throughout this war within our own alliance, and it doesn't matter nearly as much to us what others think as what we think and feel about ourselves. We alone know exactly what we have stood against and how we performed during this campaign. Our own feelings towards our fellow combat pilots, industrialists, miners, and our alliance as a whole is better than it has ever been due to our military & industrial victories, and how much we have matured and grown as alliance throughout the constant assaults on our area of Feythabolis by some very formidable alliances.
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:23:00 - [155] I, for one, welcome a Jove attack :p
Indomitus Rex Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:29:00 - [156] Edited by: Indomitus Rex on 30/05/2007 16:29:17 Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Dawn Princess Now I quite like RISE, they are a nice bunch for the most part, with almost no smack and no sploity behaviour but lets be honest, what will RISE go down as in eve history? Now I know they wont spin it this way as they still need you guys but everyone knows this is bob's war and bob's victory. They are the ones that (to the extent anyone will) will get "remembered". Like in everyone fave battle in Thermopylae, no-one remembers the thousands of allies that were also there as the arrow fodder, they just remember the 300 Spartans directing the whole thing (though someonehow I dont see anyone making a major motion picture about this ). Your quite right. Thing is we, the members of RISE, know what have done throughout this war within our own alliance, and it doesn't matter nearly as much to us what others think as what we think and feel about ourselves. We alone know exactly what we have stood against and how we performed during this campaign. Our own feelings towards our fellow combat pilots, industrialists, miners, and our alliance as a whole is better than it has ever been due to our military & industrial victories, and how much we have matured and grown as alliance throughout the constant assaults on our area of Feythabolis by some very formidable alliances. So you've finally accepted slavery and convinced yourself it ain't so bad after all? As long as you can get past the shame, humiliation, etc and so forth, amirite? Just kidding, man. Who am I to hate on someone for wanting to be the fem? SOMEONE'S got to do it, right? Besides, I have to pay homage to our Russian overlords, sing the old Soviet nation anthem, and fetch them vodka while they plex ***** and EBay at the same time. Heck, they even curse us and laugh at our T1 noob ships in Russian. It's SUPER degrading. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug Don't replace the sig that's been removed or your sig will be locked. -Elmo
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:39:00 - [157] Originally by: Indomitus Rex Edited by: Indomitus Rex on 30/05/2007 16:29:17 Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Dawn Princess Now I quite like RISE, they are a nice bunch for the most part, with almost no smack and no sploity behaviour but lets be honest, what will RISE go down as in eve history? Now I know they wont spin it this way as they still need you guys but everyone knows this is bob's war and bob's victory. They are the ones that (to the extent anyone will) will get "remembered". Like in everyone fave battle in Thermopylae, no-one remembers the thousands of allies that were also there as the arrow fodder, they just remember the 300 Spartans directing the whole thing (though someonehow I dont see anyone making a major motion picture about this ). Your quite right. Thing is we, the members of RISE, know what have done throughout this war within our own alliance, and it doesn't matter nearly as much to us what others think as what we think and feel about ourselves. We alone know exactly what we have stood against and how we performed during this campaign. Our own feelings towards our fellow combat pilots, industrialists, miners, and our alliance as a whole is better than it has ever been due to our military & industrial victories, and how much we have matured and grown as alliance throughout the constant assaults on our area of Feythabolis by some very formidable alliances. So you've finally accepted slavery and convinced yourself it ain't so bad after all? As long as you can get past the shame, humiliation, etc and so forth, amirite? Just kidding, man. Who am I to hate on someone for wanting to be the fem? SOMEONE'S got to do it, right? Besides, I have to pay homage to our Russian overlords, sing the old Soviet nation anthem, and fetch them vodka while they plex ***** and EBay at the same time. Heck, they even curse us and laugh at our T1 noob ships in Russian. It's SUPER degrading. If we are slaves, then Goonswarm get their asses handed to them by fellow slaves everytime you pay us a visit. I am quite sure which position I would rather be in. Thanks for the free large towers and modules by the way.
Indomitus Rex Amarr H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:44:00 - [158] Edited by: Indomitus Rex on 30/05/2007 16:45:07 Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Indomitus Rex Edited by: Indomitus Rex on 30/05/2007 16:29:17 Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Dawn Princess Now I quite like RISE, they are a nice bunch for the most part, with almost no smack and no sploity behaviour but lets be honest, what will RISE go down as in eve history? Now I know they wont spin it this way as they still need you guys but everyone knows this is bob's war and bob's victory. They are the ones that (to the extent anyone will) will get "remembered". Like in everyone fave battle in Thermopylae, no-one remembers the thousands of allies that were also there as the arrow fodder, they just remember the 300 Spartans directing the whole thing (though someonehow I dont see anyone making a major motion picture about this ). Your quite right. Thing is we, the members of RISE, know what have done throughout this war within our own alliance, and it doesn't matter nearly as much to us what others think as what we think and feel about ourselves. We alone know exactly what we have stood against and how we performed during this campaign. Our own feelings towards our fellow combat pilots, industrialists, miners, and our alliance as a whole is better than it has ever been due to our military & industrial victories, and how much we have matured and grown as alliance throughout the constant assaults on our area of Feythabolis by some very formidable alliances. So you've finally accepted slavery and convinced yourself it ain't so bad after all? As long as you can get past the shame, humiliation, etc and so forth, amirite? Just kidding, man. Who am I to hate on someone for wanting to be the fem? SOMEONE'S got to do it, right? Besides, I have to pay homage to our Russian overlords, sing the old Soviet nation anthem, and fetch them vodka while they plex ***** and EBay at the same time. Heck, they even curse us and laugh at our T1 noob ships in Russian. It's SUPER degrading. If we are slaves, then Goonswarm get their asses handed to them by fellow slaves everytime you pay us a visit. I am quite sure which position I would rather be in. Thanks for the free large towers and modules by the way. Yarr. That's the spirit! And not to be a KB quoter like BOD. . .I mean, BOB, but how was you guys losing all those ships last night "handing our asses to us?" We all know Goons suck, so calling KB on them is just plain silly. Especially when you have BOB as backup, amirite? Just trying to get into the mind of a man who's been broken and who's life has been overrun by cognitive dissonance and other cool psych terms. Seriously tho, can we be "special friends" and chat about this on MSN? RISE puttin' the BEATDOWN on Goons Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:48:00 - [159] Originally by: Earthan Originally by: SirMolle Question has been asked and answered before. Well with all due respect to your current achievement, for me this link is just hollow words. I mean with current game mechanics you cant conquer empire.I doubt you can even control low sec. Just as its atm in 0.0 with npc stations, its non-stop guerilla out there and low sec is much more space with much much more stations... Future game mechanics regarding factional warfare have been discussed enough for us to be already planning for it and creative minds have already considered the applications of current game mechanics on achieving that goal regardless of if/when/how factional warfare is implemented. Anyway, there is lots of time and opportunity yet for people to stop us, just because the right formula has not been found yet does not mean that it will not be found tomorrow, or the day after..... We live in hope Blog
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.30 16:56:00 - [160] Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 30/05/2007 16:54:39 You must be feeling pretty tough from a single smallish victory last night with 45 ships versus 14. Props on the ambush none-the-less. Must have been boring waiting for hours for us to leave KW while we slaughtered your "allies" for five hours. And just a small sample and friendly reminder for those engagements you may have missed: http://eve-rise.coldpoetry.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14709 http://eve-rise.coldpoetry.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16429 http://eve-rise.coldpoetry.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16976
Redbad Minmatar Tempered Steel Legion	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:05:00 - [161] As goes for everything in life: If getting something is hard, keeping someting is even harder. RB join us today!
Jason Shroud GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:08:00 - [162] The Architect will spawn, and Dianabolic will be forced to select twenty-three people with which to build a new universe.
Scavok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:13:00 - [163] Edited by: Scavok on 30/05/2007 17:13:04 Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 30/05/2007 17:06:04 Originally by: Indomitus Rex but how was you guys losing all those ships last night "handing our asses to us?" You must be feeling pretty tough from a single smallish victory last night with 45 ships versus 14, and killing ten whole ships, impressive. Props on the ambush none-the-less. Must have been boring waiting for hours for us to leave while we slaughtered your "allies". And just a small sample and friendly reminder for those engagements you may have missed: Ouch! Uh Huh Yep ZzzzZzzz The list goes on and on. Feel free to review the board. MY INTERNET SPACESHIP EPEEN HAS SHRUNK HELP ME NATE HAMMERTOWN
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:22:00 - [164] Maybe the next group will select a leader and follow what they say.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:25:00 - [165] Why is it that bob threads, as always, remain untouched on COAD, but anything about goons or CCP (its a bob thread anyway, just trust me.) is locked instantly? Oh right.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:26:00 - [166] Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 29/05/2007 15:17:14 If all of 0.0 came under the control of BoB & Co they would simply break up. Maybe from internal problems, but more likely then not because they all agreed to break into 2 or more factions/teams so they could all get some pewpew with each other. I mean i could see it happening, the day this happens things will get boring. I could totally see the 2-3 most powerful alliances meeting "likely BoB and possibly MC" and then have a big draft in which they pick teams for some pewpew. MC: I'll take Fix BoB: Hmm i'll grab Xeles ect, ect. The mental image of 0.0 alliance warfare as middle-school dodgeball made me . Thanks. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
pandymen Caldari Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade	Posted - 2007.05.30 17:35:00 - [167] Now all bob has to do is make 20 more threads in the forums about nerfing cloaks so they don't have to worry about ppl stickin around their huge chunk of 0.0.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.30 18:08:00 - [168] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Earthan Originally by: SirMolle Question has been asked and answered before. Well with all due respect to your current achievement, for me this link is just hollow words. I mean with current game mechanics you cant conquer empire.I doubt you can even control low sec. Just as its atm in 0.0 with npc stations, its non-stop guerilla out there and low sec is much more space with much much more stations... Future game mechanics regarding factional warfare have been discussed enough for us to be already planning for it and creative minds have already considered the applications of current game mechanics on achieving that goal regardless of if/when/how factional warfare is implemented. Anyway, there is lots of time and opportunity yet for people to stop us, just because the right formula has not been found yet does not mean that it will not be found tomorrow, or the day after..... We live in hope Personally I think you live in fear of it not happening. signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:06:00 - [169] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Earthan Originally by: SirMolle Question has been asked and answered before. Well with all due respect to your current achievement, for me this link is just hollow words. I mean with current game mechanics you cant conquer empire.I doubt you can even control low sec. Just as its atm in 0.0 with npc stations, its non-stop guerilla out there and low sec is much more space with much much more stations... Future game mechanics regarding factional warfare have been discussed enough for us to be already planning for it and creative minds have already considered the applications of current game mechanics on achieving that goal regardless of if/when/how factional warfare is implemented. Anyway, there is lots of time and opportunity yet for people to stop us, just because the right formula has not been found yet does not mean that it will not be found tomorrow, or the day after..... We live in hope Im not sure if i share your enthusiasm:) - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
IntegralHellsing Gallente The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen	Posted - 2007.05.30 19:11:00 - [170] Originally by: Gloomrake Ono Originally by: Earthan You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. Whatever... oh noes, bob brainwashing us into making us believe that bob can't control all 0.0 space! tbh, no one can control all 0.0 space, as there are 'npc-held' systems :P --------------------------------------
Morela Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:19:00 - [171] Originally by: Jason Shroud The Architect will spawn, and Dianabolic will be forced to select twenty-three people with which to build a new universe. I actually lol'd at that..
JoCool Caldari MASS	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:33:00 - [172] BoB is about to give freedom to us all. It is ridding 0.0 space of silly alliances and setting up a new order, where big alliances spanning vast regions, using 5 systems but killing in 50, will not exist anymore. When BoB has done its deed, god will remove local. Space will become wider, and carebears and fighters alike will be blissfully, blissfully happy. _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.05.30 22:41:00 - [173] Originally by: Pilk Time to take Empire. --P Tried it - got nerfed SKUNK
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:08:00 - [174] Originally by: Jason Shroud The Architect will spawn, and Dianabolic will be forced to select twenty-three people with which to build a new universe. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Einheriar Ulrich Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:13:00 - [175] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Jason Shroud The Architect will spawn, and Dianabolic will be forced to select twenty-three people with which to build a new universe. Ohh why ohh why didnt i take the blue pill. Originally by: Jiekon/CCP If you are sitting with a guy and he says "ok, i'm logging off now" and you shoot him, that is fine.
Sekar casal	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:45:00 - [176] Originally by: Blacklight Future game mechanics regarding factional warfare have been discussed enough for us to be already planning for it and creative minds have already considered the applications of current game mechanics on achieving that goal regardless of if/when/how factional warfare is implemented. Ahh, so you got a Dev on the "new game mechanics team", grats.
Phoebus Athenian Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.30 23:55:00 - [177] Originally by: Hans Roaming CCP opens a dimension gate to eve china and the fight starts!!! As a side note, what's been happening in eve china lately? That sounds scary... getting taken over by the Chinese:P Even though its a reality IRL! :P ---
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.31 00:38:00 - [178] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Pilk Time to take Empire. --P Tried it - got nerfed SKUNK Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.31 01:19:00 - [179] I'm waiting for the 'hindsight' to kick your doors down and trash your furniture. A significant percentage of Eve reflecting on their lack of backbone and the end of the game politically. It'll be multiplayer gaming first, thats for certain. Someone actually won! Flame on.
Angeles Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.05.31 01:30:00 - [180] eve universe will collapse in on itself like a dying star as empire becomes too dense with people from previous 0.0 alliances that do not like cheaters and a shockwave will blast out taking every last bob and pet with it
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:03:00 - [181] BoB will not ever take Konora :P Thats the only thing im sure of. Death is only the beginning...
suza Prison Break Inc. FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:11:00 - [182] BoB will never win eve, no-one can. The nature of the game is that there is no end, no win, CCP specifically designed it as a forever ongoing universe. BoB might have their name over the space, but the fun of outlaw space is that no-one really has total control of it. I have wandered happily thought other peoples bit of 0.0 with little issues. In the early days of BoB they relied upon this to do their roving hunting. What it means to BoB to have their name over all of 0.0. The answer is simple, nothing left to achieve with the people they are in allience with. Eventually, BoB will have its time, its a game and people move on, change direction or seek something new. Then hopefully there will be a new baddie on the block for all of us to hate. As actors often say "the baddie always gets the best parts" - Fly Hard, Fly fast for tomorrow is another day for Killing!
Absalom Marathon Swedish Academy	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:23:00 - [183] Hello there. I'm fairly new to Eve and the forums and prolly shouldn't take this up, but, well.. Thought I'd ask the question anyway. Why aren't (when all the people are whining about BoB all the time) people going together in one big alliance to put up some firepower against BoB? Is it to hard to get together? Not one single corp (or existing alliance as it seems) can manage it by themselves (obviously). Why not get that fact and start acting united even tho it's hard? Well, I will be having fun in EvE anyway, and does not care, but thought it was a question worth asking.
Herculite Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:45:00 - [184] Originally by: Dark Shikari Imagine if, for example, the Coalition used their massive capital ship fleets to hit 5 BoB systems at once while BoB was all bottled up in F-TE? Delve could have been brought down in a week if they brought everything they had and split up rather than trying to put 2000 people in one system. While obviously there were things the coalition could have done better in those first two months, I think you over/underestimate if you think that plan would have worked in the long term. We would have been in easy jump range around delve, and with coalition forces spread out like that they would have been vulnerable. They did do a smart thing and the same day as F-T they attacked station systems like 0oy. Since we had a baby mothership to protect we lost those systems for a time due to that.
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:49:00 - [185] Originally by: Absalom Marathon Hello there. I'm fairly new to Eve and the forums and prolly shouldn't take this up, but, well.. Thought I'd ask the question anyway. Why aren't (when all the people are whining about BoB all the time) people going together in one big alliance to put up some firepower against BoB? Is it to hard to get together? Not one single corp (or existing alliance as it seems) can manage it by themselves (obviously). Why not get that fact and start acting united even tho it's hard? Well, I will be having fun in EvE anyway, and does not care, but thought it was a question worth asking. Everybody pounders at this mystery and apprently yea its that hard to get organised. IMHO all alliances were very arrogant lazy and couldnt think 2 steps ahead...So BOB took them one by one.. - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
heavyg Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.31 12:51:00 - [186] Originally by: Absalom Marathon Hello there. I'm fairly new to Eve and the forums and prolly shouldn't take this up, but, well.. Thought I'd ask the question anyway. Why aren't (when all the people are whining about BoB all the time) people going together in one big alliance to put up some firepower against BoB? Is it to hard to get together? Not one single corp (or existing alliance as it seems) can manage it by themselves (obviously). Why not get that fact and start acting united even tho it's hard? Well, I will be having fun in EvE anyway, and does not care, but thought it was a question worth asking. Simple really, no one can agree to follow one leader who has a plan. Also a lot of the whiners are , great of the forums, not so good at pew pew.
Pvt Sammich Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.31 14:38:00 - [187] I wouldn't worry about them taking over all of 0.0 space I don't really think they would like the constant logistical aspects of it very much. Titans can only be in so many places at one am I rite? Quote: Either CCP employees need to remove all BoB contacts and place them on ignore or CCP should publish the MSN contacts for all members to be able to have a direct line to the developers. -
LordAmarus Minmatar Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.05.31 16:40:00 - [188] Lol , earthan , you really are ... I'd say a noob , but hell even a noob has more sens of eve and brains then you. Bob won't control all 0.0 space cuz their is no benefit in it. (ffs who would want the drone regions -_- ) Have No Fear , I Is Here
Capt Sparky	Posted - 2007.05.31 17:24:00 - [189] Edited by: Capt Sparky on 31/05/2007 17:23:08
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.31 17:26:00 - [190] Originally by: LordAmarus Lol , earthan , you really are ... I'd say a noob , but hell even a noob has more sens of eve and brains then you. Bob won't control all 0.0 space cuz their is no benefit in it. (ffs who would want the drone regions -_- ) yeah im a damn noob nad for sure i could learn an eternity from yuor wisdom. God how i hate smartass arrogant remarks like yours. BOB isnt about profit,its about conquering control and power. Im sorry to say you dont understand jack.Honestly i dont know why im even replying to your post. - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.05.31 17:34:00 - [191] Edited by: Sir Lolle on 31/05/2007 17:33:06 Originally by: LordAmarus Lol , earthan , you really are ... I'd say a noob , but hell even a noob has more sens of eve and brains then you. Bob won't control all 0.0 space cuz their is no benefit in it. (ffs who would want the drone regions -_- ) You must be unfamiliar with Theta Squad ~ Sir Lololololle ~ Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
Hermia HIVE X-PACT	Posted - 2007.05.31 18:17:00 - [192] Originally by: Herculite Originally by: Dark Shikari Imagine if, for example, the Coalition used their massive capital ship fleets to hit 5 BoB systems at once while BoB was all bottled up in F-TE? Delve could have been brought down in a week if they brought everything they had and split up rather than trying to put 2000 people in one system. While obviously there were things the coalition could have done better in those first two months, I think you over/underestimate if you think that plan would have worked in the long term. We would have been in easy jump range around delve, and with coalition forces spread out like that they would have been vulnerable. They did do a smart thing and the same day as F-T they attacked station systems like 0oy. Since we had a baby mothership to protect we lost those systems for a time due to that. Attacking multiple fronts is the correct formula tho. The coalition had more numbers, alot more, so spitting up shouldn't have been an issue.. but low and behold Thats probably what they thought actually, "hmmm splitting up will weaken our fleet". Probably true coalition, but i dont get it because bob should've had to thin their forces even more, maybe ruling out the feasibility of fighting a 3rd, 4th, 5th front. Consequently that Could've forced BOB to play YOUR game. Doesnt matter, cant be done anymore, the chance has been missed (for the time being). BOB's installed 'friendly' states i think even gives them the numbers advantage now! Any new bid to take down bob must include converting these satellite entities. shoulda woulda coulda, oh dear
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.31 18:29:00 - [193] Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? I have 0 respect for them. Other alliances I might not like but I respect them MC would be one of them. I would explain my reason but this thread would be deleted. Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
ChalSto The Galactic Empire Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.31 18:41:00 - [194] Edited by: ChalSto on 31/05/2007 18:41:48 Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? You mean....they cheat? Hey...I work for Microsoft and my Windows works fine for me. Just becouse yours does not, does that mean I cheat? /me waits for incoming flame-wall... Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb*
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.05.31 21:09:00 - [195] Windows runs good... If it is 2000 one :P And, let's admit. Windows has no PvP in it, only user vs system :D Death is only the beginning...
Zagum Darkfin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.31 21:19:00 - [196] Edited by: Zagum Darkfin on 31/05/2007 21:18:34 Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? I have 0 respect for them. Other alliances I might not like but I respect them MC would be one of them. I would explain my reason but this thread would be deleted. And the Tinfoil Hat WINNER IS....................!!!!!!!!! CUpDEEz, come on down, you are a winner on CAOD Prices Right!
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.05.31 23:17:00 - [197] Originally by: Zagum Darkfin And the Tinfoil Hat WINNER IS....................!!!!!!!!! CUpDEEz, come on down, you are a winner on CAOD Prices Right! Nice joke, but his last sentense still makes sense, as we seen deletionage earlier. Death is only the beginning...
nickycakes Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.31 23:32:00 - [198] Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? I have 0 respect for them. Other alliances I might not like but I respect them MC would be one of them. I would explain my reason but this thread would be deleted. My interest in the game was hinging on Cupdeez's respect, so I guess this is goodbye eve..
L0ck Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.31 23:32:00 - [199] Contact your local GBCÖ representative today!
Chelone	Posted - 2007.06.01 01:11:00 - [200] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Ivan K ([email protected])
Sir Lolle Amarr Band of Brolols	Posted - 2007.06.01 01:20:00 - [201] Originally by: nickycakes Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? I have 0 respect for them. Other alliances I might not like but I respect them MC would be one of them. I would explain my reason but this thread would be deleted. My interest in the game was hinging on Cupdeez's respect, so I guess this is goodbye eve.. BOB NO YOU ARE OUR ONLY HOPE PLEASE DONT LEAVE Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected][orange] with a link to your signature. - Elm
NAFnist Domination.	Posted - 2007.06.01 03:13:00 - [202] bob has a huge +ve list atm, and its very unstable at this size -
Buddy King Caldari Jork Corp	Posted - 2007.06.01 07:26:00 - [203] Edited by: Buddy King on 01/06/2007 07:26:42 Edited by: Buddy King on 01/06/2007 07:26:09 Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. There is a Chinese server? Can we go on it and strip mine their Empire space? Seriously though. Pushing a disorganized goonswarm out of hastily acquired regions is one thing. C.racking their fortress in Scalding Pass while dealing with RA is probably more of a challenge.
bloomich Trotter's Independent Traders Co	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:49:00 - [204] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. From a friend who used to play the Chinease server, he left over the max 2 hour gametime rule. Thats the reason why eve china is not doing as well as it should, since people would rather play 2 hours of <insert grind em up> and acheive something rather than getting kicked out because a session was likely to take more than 2 hours.
Hugh Ruka Caldari Free Traders Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:24:00 - [205] Originally by: Rod Blaine Hey earthan m8, there's not really an issue. We could maybe theoretically take sovereignty over alot of space, or have our name on the map for it as part of our lil empire, but there'll always be parts we don't own, corps we don't control, and fleets nad pos's that need to be destroyed. People didn't give up when we killed off PA, alot of them went and formed G, who we've later had enjoyable battles with. The same will simply happen again, and again, and again. Eve always changes, and every major change equals opportunity. No it won't. Back then BoB did not have that many resources and capitals did not exist. Now it will be an economic war, not a combat war. And BoB maintaining huge resources will simply have the upper hand ALWAYS. We're all going to die.... :-))) Originally by: JP Beauregard The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls....
Opium Minmatar Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.01 17:47:00 - [206] ill make sure they have fun need a huge very persitant evil empire to fight in a space game. not that there evil per se... probbaly all go to church. i dont care.but for me, there my darth vader. so beware my lightsabre muhuaaaaa
Veronique deEstelle Gallente Diplomatic Disruption	Posted - 2007.06.02 03:31:00 - [207] Originally by: ChalSto Edited by: ChalSto on 31/05/2007 18:41:48 Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? You mean....they cheat? Hey...I work for Microsoft and my Windows works fine for me. Just becouse yours does not, does that mean I cheat? */me waits for incoming flame-wall... Nah... I say it 'just' means you know more about windows then me^^
Emrod Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.02 04:12:00 - [208] Edited by: Emrod on 02/06/2007 04:12:10 Originally by: Earthan So do you think you will still have fun flying in space once all 0.0 is more or less yours ( less the npc stations 0.0 )? Oh my God the question! I think its gonna be the most boring day of their life and they gonna disband. Hey..why continued play the game when you win it ? In fact when you finish a game at all mode...in fact you drop your CD game in a dirty place in your computer room and you open the case of a new game and try to win this one. Hmm rigth? So the real question here is..what is the next game Bob gonna win? I sell some logoff t2 module,improved forum flamming tachyon beam and Bob Lag generator faction item, contact me ingame for more info :P
Onchas Erivvia Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.02 04:54:00 - [209] Edited by: Onchas Erivvia on 02/06/2007 04:57:37 Originally by: Marcus Druallis In actuality you are the one without the knowledge here. At peak times the chinese server is at the max 6000 players, and it is a FACT that one alliance controls all of 0.0, and that is it farming heaven over there. Do some research. Well aren't you just a little sweetie pie, and I've always held POS guys in such high regard. Much thanks to the nice fella who directed to the coldfront stats page. ------------------------------------------ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"' Teh Onchinator' Personal Assistant to MrsPitman
VoYvod Amarr Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.02 06:14:00 - [210] History tends to repeat itself... in a video game or in real life it still happens, for example... does nobody remember the roman empire? they were 'unstoppable' aswell as persia , mongolia ,and germany (in a certain part of time) - if you think about it , all these countires basicly had pets , and look at how most of those nations ended , rome - guerilla warfare by the huns , persia - tried to take greece , didnt succeed because their navy had to pull back because of too many losses - and if too many losses happened the land forces wouldn't of been able to return home (in eve thats the titan's wormhole :P) then greek united from different tribes into a single nation , they went from 'spartans' / 'athenians' to 'greeks' and stood as a whole and persia got defeated [ 'northern coalition' / 'southern coalition' , maybe they'll try to attempt to stand as a whole instead of basicly 2 seperate groups wanting the same thing but not really helping eachother on achieving - from what i see] , i'm sure everybody knows what happened to germany - 'best army on earth' then had too many wars their enemies updated technology and their industry got hit and got blobbed from too many fronts and that was the end of that, basicly bob is germany in a way with the capital fleet , give it time and their enemies will get a big enough capital fleet once again , vietnam ,guerilla warfare which effected the mentality of the citizens of the usa of thinking it was unwinable so it ended - i'm sure almost every single once of yous reading this was in a corp/alliance that has taken too many ganksquads took too many losses , and couldnt gain financially and said it wasnt worth it and left. i know this is a video game, but its still pretty much the same thing, Guerilla warfare will be the only way, and really - the only realistic way atm to put a dent , internal issues would have to make bob and pets splinter (which is usually caused by guerilla warfare) look at vietnam/and present day iraq , all i'm saying is that if anybody with a lot of friends or not spreads themselves too thin / makes too many enemies / i can almost guarantee history will repeat itself P.S. While you're attacking RedSwarm - think of napoleon when he was rushing to Moscow , there might be some General Winter waiting :P eve's version of General winter = lag thanks for reading , it WAS a history lesson :P but gotta put in the details to prove my point. BTW the movie 300 was inaccurate , that's just hollywood
Nilit Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.02 12:53:00 - [211] Quote: Guerilla warfare will be the only way, and really - the only realistic way atm to put a dent , internal issues would have to make bob and pets splinter. While this is probably a good tactic, you have to consider that: - there is really no reason for anyone to conduct guerilla warfare against us, besides fun of cause - it would be challenging, not many people like challenging in EVE, most like easy pew pew - it would cost ISK, without any gains - it's a hell of a lot more convenient to just go and live elcewhere Just thinking what I would think, if I was in our opponent's shoes. My 2c. The will to win is stronger than the fear of death
Vaustrien Caldari The Greater Goon The OSS	Posted - 2007.06.03 08:01:00 - [212] Originally by: ChalSto Edited by: ChalSto on 31/05/2007 18:41:48 Originally by: Cupdeez Most of the Dev's are located inside the BOB alliance did you really expect anything else? You mean....they cheat? Hey...I work for Microsoft and my Windows works fine for me. Just becouse yours does not, does that mean I cheat? /me waits for incoming flame-wall... You know, I don't play often. I am not in a big corp at all. I don't have a bone to pick with any side (aka coalition or bob & friends), but I do care if cheating is going on. Cheating went on at one point (t20 incident), and it was denied at first, but later the person admitted to doing it. Since then, CCP started their internal monitoring group. Since (and for good reason) I don't know the internal workings of CCP, I don't know if it helped or not. It probably did, and I'd like to assume it, but then again I have $15/month in subscription money and tons of potential time to invest. If a couple hundred hours of time playing and a couple hundred dollars down the line I find out I wasted it on a game that was "fixed" then I'd be ***ed. This thought keeps me wondering whether to play or not. In general, I believe CCP, but there's a pretty significant loss if I'm mistaken. I've heard plenty of the "Goon" accusations, and a lot of them seem like they're outlandish, but every one of your little "tinfoil hat" posts take a steamy, brown crap on the more reasonable players with valid concerns. If CCP was crooked, there would be no real way for the average Joe to tell, so this talk about it being an impossibility as if you know better is just crap. I believe CCP with my mind, but I dunno about my time and wallet. So far, I'm still playing.
SaKoil GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.17 16:17:00 - [213] Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. hehe. Well, one of options is that bob corps will split from eachother and reset stangings to each never the less. is time for this yet? Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Matty Walker Body Heat LLP	Posted - 2007.12.17 16:29:00 - [214] Let me be among the last to say that this topic was better off left dead. Although it is amusing to see BoB's nose rubbed once more in the folly of Sir Molle's conceit: SirMolle, chief executive of Evolution, one of the player corporations in Band of Brothers, said that his allianceÆs goal was to take over every solar system in the game. ôOur goal in Eve is to control all of 0.0 space, and when thatÆs done weÆre going to take over the empire one by one and control the empire as well.ö

ISD Valorem Amarr ISD STAR	Posted - 2007.12.17 16:39:00 - [215] Please do not bump old threads. Locked forum rules \| CAOD Rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website


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