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Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.29 13:55:00 - [1] You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. Unless some jedi arise suddenly:) imho you should have crashed in around2-3 months all oposition and populated 0.0 with your pet- alliances.Kudos to you, impressive. Now what i wonder what is next for BOB? I mean there will be no challenge left,im not sure if i would have fun anymore being in yuor place.. Sure prolly there will be groups of die hard freedom fighters in npc stations (me me :) ) in 0.0, but i think that will be all left to fight and wont be to fun... So do you think you will still have fun flying in space once all 0.0 is more or less yours ( less the npc stations 0.0 )? - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.29 13:57:00 - [2] Time to take Empire. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
The Beatnuts UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 13:58:00 - [3] Originally by: Pilk Time to take Empire. --P question adressed to BOB i think :p /omee
Shai Faetal Burn The Witch	Posted - 2007.05.29 13:59:00 - [4] Originally by: The Beatnuts Originally by: Pilk Time to take Empire. --P question adressed to BOB i think :p post with your bob alt! ________________
Damares Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:01:00 - [5] BoB will more than likely within a few months control most of conquerable space, the parts left are the rubbish bits anyway, its not something i like but its quite likely to happen, unless something drastic happens thats the way its going. after BoB has 0.0 i think they will become suicide gankers :D
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:03:00 - [6] When they take all of 0.0 its simple..... reset all standings ------------------------------------------------------------------
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:08:00 - [7] BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Earthan Gallente The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:13:00 - [8] Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. Thats what they have pet alliances for Dark shikari imho.And it was brillant they noticed the problem early ( i think when they had fountain,OR , delve, and noticed they cant be everywhere at same time...) And whne there is a massive attack on poses they can alwys arrive in time to wipe enemies ass. So everyday small fights: pet alliances. big attacks: bob can be at right time in right place. I think this system will work.Unless we would attack in many places at same time but since anti-bob alliances couldnt really cooperate when they were alive ( for very various reasons imho most importan twre: arrogance and pure stupididty combined with turtle syndrom) , what chances have we to orgnise something once there is no real 0.0 alliances left? We would really need some jedi to orgnise this:) - Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:15:00 - [9] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/05/2007 14:13:58 Originally by: Earthan Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. Thats what they have pet alliances for Dark shikari imho.And it was brillant they noticed the problem early ( i think when they had fountain,OR , delve, and noticed they cant be everywhere at same time...) And whne there is a massive attack on poses they can alwys arrive in time to wipe enemies ass. So everyday small fights: pet alliances. big attacks: bob can be at right time in right place. I think this system will work.Unless we would attack in many places at same time but since anti-bob alliances couldnt really cooperate when they were alive ( for very various reasons imho most importan twre: arrogance and pure stupididty combined with turtle syndrom) , what chances have we to orgnise something once there is no real 0.0 alliances left? We would really need some jedi to orgnise this:) I don't think they'd be able to hold up a galaxy-wide "pet" system. More likely what will happen is that in most areas of EVE, you won't have "anti-BoB" or "pro-BoB" forces, you'll have forces who just don't care either way. Contrast that to the current situation, of course. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Gloomrake Ono Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:16:00 - [10] Originally by: Earthan You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. Whatever...
Aypse Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Earthan You seem to be on the verge of controlling all 0.0 space. Unless some jedi arise suddenly:) imho you should have crashed in around2-3 months all oposition and populated 0.0 with your pet- alliances.Kudos to you, impressive. Now what i wonder what is next for BOB? I mean there will be no challenge left,im not sure if i would have fun anymore being in yuor place.. Sure prolly there will be groups of die hard freedom fighters in npc stations (me me :) ) in 0.0, but i think that will be all left to fight and wont be to fun... So do you think you will still have fun flying in space once all 0.0 is more or less yours ( less the npc stations 0.0 )? So, you are saying that you did not see the other 10+ threads on this same exact topic? I suggest you look in the General and CAOD sections of the forum. You know that there are pages behind the first page and also a search function right? Besides that, there are plenty of enemies of BOB and the alliance still out there. Some of them have given up, but many of them still have the will and ability to fight. If I was you, I would not just dismiss these people as insignificant and unable to fight. Originally by: Oveur Eve is primarily a PVP game and hence our focus is on making that experience balanced.
Neveren Caldari Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:26:00 - [12] STC recruiting!
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:28:00 - [13] With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself.
Nai Ling Amarr Middle Finger Technology Ghosts Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:28:00 - [14] Once BoB has eliminated all enemies, it's time for a standings reset. Just rewind 6 months at a time for the last 4 years, and you'll see it's a trend. Everyone knows BoB needs targets. What's a PVP game about if all you have is friends? No matter what happens in the future, what successes BoB has, or who gets trampled along the way, BoB will always have someone to shoot at. That's what they're here for. That's what they'll do. _______________________________________________
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. hehe. Well, one of options is that bob corps will split from eachother and reset stangings to each never the less. There shouldnt be big enteties around, so in a way it might be like server reseting and starting all over again....but with completely different features as back in old days. So, in this scenario it shouldnt be deja vue from 4 years ago, but something completely new. One of options as i said me, myself and I ------>
Indiano Arko Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:35:00 - [16] Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. I heard there may be a bonus level.
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:37:00 - [17] Originally by: Smith With BOB conquering all it will be game over and the server will reset itself. You're mixing up Eve & POTBS again. Noob. Max --------------------
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. According to that new outpost alert statistics thingy they are about to fix that atm. But what really is a problem is: what is control? You could for example state Venal is controlled by Tri. Yet, they are far from having total control over this region. If you spin that it will apply to bob too - maybe in some areas it already does. Still i think that is not a nice future prediction. I'll keep on shooting their pets, forever. Someday when i can fly a titan and CCP introduced the ability to use motherships as drones ima invade NOL. Oh wait, now it's getting a bit off.
Tundaar Minmatar Eve Defence Force Pure.	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:47:00 - [19] Edited by: Tundaar on 29/05/2007 14:46:42 Originally by: Dark Shikari I don't think they'd be able to hold up a galaxy-wide "pet" system. More likely what will happen is that in most areas of EVE, you won't have "anti-BoB" or "pro-BoB" forces, you'll have forces who just don't care either way. Contrast that to the current situation, of course. Heh - seems to me that they are doing alright with 1/3 of the galaxy already - so why not the rest? As long as people are prepared to pay rent (which seems to the case) Bob will "control" the space. If someone rebels they get squashed by a monster Cap Fleet, and no pet wants to be the first one squashed so no-one will step out of line. There are plenty lining up to pay rent, the money from which will just make BoB stronger and more able to produce more Cap Ships. In the Era of Cap fleets BoB already have an advantage which get stronger, a balance point (in my opinion, worthless though it might be) has been exceeded. Time to pack up and play sommething more balanced.
Mitch Taylor Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:52:00 - [20] There is an element of defeat in these posts, more and more so in recent days. I look at the current political map and think what if? I wish more people would have that outlook and made something happen. EVE is about pushing the limits of possibility, BoB did it and now they arguably at the peak of their game. So what? everyone else gives up do they because someone has achieved so much? I love this game and spend a huge amount of my time playing it. The only thing that is dear to me in this game is my corp, its development and its goals. I look at BoB and it inspires me to succeed, not give up. Now snap out of it folks, this game is meant to be hard, lets make new history shall we. Dark-Rising
Nyack GREY COUNCIL Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 14:56:00 - [21] Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. this arguement has been said over and over again.. there is no way that oen alliance can hold all 0,0... if i am not misstaken that has infact already happened.. the chinese server was conq by one faction. "the north" actually (irony).. eve has now crashed there no one wants to play the game the ones that "won"eve was left with no more challenges and the ones lost left cause there was no fun left.. and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0..
Onchas Erivvia Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:06:00 - [22] Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. ------------------------------------------ 'Teh Onchinator' Personal Assistant to MrsPitman
Mitch Taylor Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:07:00 - [23] snip Inappropriate. -Elmo Pug Dark-Rising
steveid Metatron Industries	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:08:00 - [24] Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB is too small to "control" all of 0.0 space. First of all, they probably will not settle down until they have wiped out RAGOON or died trying. Second, even once they do so, they only have a couple thousand members; I highly doubt they'll be able to keep an empire larger than the Southwest and South. Anyone who thinks they could control former RA space, the South, their stronghold in the Southwest, and Northern space is absolutely crazy. Tbh dark this isn't neccesarily true all they need to do is install pets and / or friendlyies and have a member in the alliance with pos access. I believe in the near future you will be able to see whats cooking in ship maintainance arrays that way. Then its simply a matter of preventing titan production while producing them yourself. Nobody will be able to stand up to your titan fleet and inside 12 months you will have enough titans to doomsday a conventional capital fleet. There needs to be a way of building capital ships that is stealthy. Perhaps doing it without soverignity, perhaps making a new type of pos that can be anchored at safe spots.
Aterna Talon's Grasp	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:15:00 - [25] My thoughts: BoB will pull MC out of the north soon, and send them after AAA/IAC. The areas now controlled by MC will be turned over to alliances such as YouWhat, M. Pire. and others. BoB will not have sovereignty over the outposts, they will allow the north to stay under the control of others. Perhaps ISS can revive itself by buying outposts across the north? They will fight RA and co. for months. While they do, the North will rebuild, just like it did after the GNW. Corps who have been in the north for their entire existence will come back and the cycle will continue. Back in the BoB/RA war, BoB will have reclaimed most of the regions lost by LV, and went on to push several RA allies north into Goon space, and MC will have worked over AAA and IAC with the help of FIX and the southern allies. Perhaps the OP should simply have asked (I am curious about this): What will BoB/MC do with the stations in the north that they have captured? Sell them, let Sov run out? Turn them over to friendlies? Turn them over to BoB and claim the regions? - - - WTB new sig, evemail me please.
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:15:00 - [26] snip BoB wins 0.0, big deal. I live in Empire. To Empire-dwallers, BoB is an impotent dragon that roars loudly on the forums but has no claws and teeth in day to day operations. Meanwhile, I educate every newbie I can that going to 0.0 is a win/lose proposition -- join BoB & slaves for the I-Win button, join anyone else and your dreams will be stolen from you at some point. Reference to removed post. -Elmo Pug
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:18:00 - [27] Edited by: DubanFP on 29/05/2007 15:17:14 If all of 0.0 came under the control of BoB & Co they would simply break up. Maybe from internal problems, but more likely then not because they all agreed to break into 2 or more factions/teams so they could all get some pewpew with each other. I mean i could see it happening, the day this happens things will get boring. I could totally see the 2-3 most powerful alliances meeting "likely BoB and possibly MC" and then have a big draft in which they pick teams for some pewpew. MC: I'll take Fix BoB: Hmm i'll grab Xeles ect, ect. ____________ DubanFP > where ever there is a player that's getting too rich, wherever there's an industrial with too much loot, wherever there is a noob with too much smack we'll be there...
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:19:00 - [28] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. In actuality you are the one without the knowledge here. At peak times the chinese server is at the max 6000 players, and it is a FACT that one alliance controls all of 0.0, and that is it farming heaven over there. Do some research. -- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected])
Nyack GREY COUNCIL Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: Nyack and remember the chinese server had far far few pilots then we have and they control all of 0,0.. this is prolly why there have been so big mass migration of chinese players to TQ.. the chinese server was the kindergarden to learn eve and then they went to play on the "real" server =) the chinese server is today more or less dead due to this fact that one faction owns all 0,0 i think this is the reason why ccp is panicing with sov 2.0.. I can't seem to find anything, anywhere that substantiates these claims. In fact, the Chinese server broke over 30,000 members not really that long after launch. If there was such a mass migration over to here, why have our numbers not magically gone up? I simply don't believe that there are mass emigrations out of this server, not when so many more people I know from other games are finding their way here, and I know very few people who have given up the game. I could be seeing just a randomly exceptional sample of the population, but I simply don't think you're right. If you can substantiate these claims, it would be interesting to see. Serentiy status from coldfront of course i do not have the chance to actually see the influx of asian subscribers only ccp holds that information.. i can only post what i have seen from living in 0,0 these days in fact in bob controlled space (fountain) the second language i see in local these days are actually chinese.. might be cause that is damn fun fighting "the corrs" in fountain core.. bring backs memories =) there are chinese alliance and pure corps popping up every where in 0,0 and npc:ing ravens etc.. almost all of 0,0 systems have 1 pilot farming belts.. i think it is only the language barrier holding that player base back from being big part in the politics and impact of TQ these days.. and i still believe the chinese servers haev aided in spreading the interest for "the real" TQ server these where not there 1 year ago.. i really think what happened to the chinese server is happening to TQ aswell it is just taking longer time due to a bigger playerbase on TQ.. i just hope ccp will open their eyes and "balance" before it is to late...
Tomas Ysidro Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:26:00 - [30] Originally by: DubanFP MC: I'll take Fix BoB: Hmm i'll grab Xeles ect, ect. That's quite a funny mental picture

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