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Popsikle
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.30 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Angus McDorble
Originally by: Lisento Slaven If you're inside a POS bubble and you know the enemy is trying to bump you out of it (and eventually will) - why do you stay inside the bubble and not just disperse or like...regroup somewhere else? Maybe even log off since you can't win the fight by getting more help or finding a strategy that works...
Because, chances are, the systems is camped like a park three miles outside of Suburbia.
If there's a Titan around to be USED to POS bowl, there IS no strategy that works. Titans are effectively an "I win" button if the person flying it isn't an incompetent monkey.
Lets not turn this into a titan "I Win button". Ive seen to many jump in, DD, jump out in 18 seconds from Janus ;(
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.05.30 02:56:00 -
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This is more important than the stuff about CCP "cheating"
This is horrible
and forget logs I'm 100% sure a dev knows about this. the devs play in EvE remember? which means by all means a dev has pulled this off before.
not cool
if it can recreated easily then it's broken
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Nicoli Voldkif
Caelli-Merced INC. Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.05.30 03:37:00 -
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From what I was told from friends on the Test server POS shields now act like Warp disruption bubbles and pull you out of warp at the edge of the bubble. so if you keep to the center you should be safe.
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Alty MacAlterson
Alt Corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:03:00 -
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It is a pos bump, a stupid exploit used by titans.
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Ralara
Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Ralara
Originally by: Ryas Nia
Originally by: Ralara It is technically an exploit
If it was technically an exploit people would get banned for it. It has not been called an exploit by the GM's or Devs therefor it is a valid tactic no matter how lame :(.
Well let's get technical. I wont insult your intelligence with a quote from the EULA or T&C. You know what an exploit is defined as.
Warping a ship into a pos shield is not an intended mechanic just as "jet can" mining is not (was not) intended. But people do it.
The problem with pos bowling and the way eve appears to log things is .. well, it isn't. Logged, that is. Just as if I decide to click left and then right in space, that isn't logged. It's logged when I click "warp to" or "fire", but not when I maneuver around. There is no log that says "X bumped into Y" therefore CCP logs do not show someone bumping something inside a POS shield.
Since it's not logged it is so incredibly difficult to prove it happened without a GM being there, at the time of it happening.
You can FRAPs it, but as I said in my post, a movie CAN be edited and so therefore FRAPS are generally not admissable as evidence in a petition.
So no logs on the CCP side, no "evidence" that is admissable, therefore it "didn't happen" and since CCP can't / wont change the coding, nothing can be done about it. It is then relegated to "feature" and everyone rolls eyes except those with super caps that can get away with it.
The fix? Make pos shields into a warp field just like a mobile warp bubble. That way ships wont "enter" the pos shield. Voila.
It has been stated several times from the powers that be that it is not an exploit. there was some drama at first and we were asked to stop, then we heard of ET using it so a petition was sent in for clarification and it was green lighted. It may not be cool, it may suck but it isn't an exploit. simple as that 
As I said, it's been relegated to "feature" :)
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Charles Case
Caldari Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.30 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Man STTRRRIKE!
SHRRRIKE!
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FatKao
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.30 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Mamba Lev Didn't BoB pioneer POS bowling? CCP says it can't do anything about. Hmmm.
the first i had ever heard of its use was an iac mothership, and i think i also heard the establishments nyx had done it before although that was from the grapevine so can't clarify that, maybe they can
We were doing it back when we attacked D2 and were told to stop it at the risk of a ban.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.30 06:29:00 -
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lol, goon lies strike again
BoB learned about POS bowling when one of our enemies stole a BoB carrier. Petition said it was not an exploit.
But the witch hunters need not worry, I'm sure they'll find something for more scandles soon enough (Better luck next time)
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.05.30 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cyan Nuevo Interesting how the vast majority whining about BoB-dev corruption and BoB exploits are currently fighting a war against BoB. Makes you wonder, huh?
Yeah, shows how weak characters those fighting alongside BoB are, if they had any decency, they would condemn exploits too.
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.30 07:01:00 -
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Judging from the video it's quite easy to avoid getting bumped.
But I suppose that doesn't do much to heighten the drama. -- .sig apathy ftw |

Diggles Darkreign
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.30 07:13:00 -
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its called poor programing...at best.
they're too lazy to fix the code so a ship cant penerate shields.
would be a little more realistic if titan hit a large towers shield and got vaporized or took massive structural dmg.
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Lisento Slaven
Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.30 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nicoli Voldkif From what I was told from friends on the Test server POS shields now act like Warp disruption bubbles and pull you out of warp at the edge of the bubble. so if you keep to the center you should be safe.
Can anyone confirm this? Has it been fixed? ---
Lisento Slaven wants to be a Space Whaler in EVE.
Put in space whales!
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Imager
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.30 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot lol, goon lies strike again ... scandles ...
I blame our upbringing.
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Ashaz
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Posted - 2007.05.30 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue I don't understand the point of having ships outside a ship array anyways. If you don't like the bumping, just store your ships properly you won't lose anything.
What kind of ship do you fly, that doesn't need ammo or capcharges or anything to be stored in the cargo?
Can't dock up a ship with stuff in the belly.
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Ashaz
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Posted - 2007.05.30 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Popsikle Ya know, the forums wouldn't be nearly so bad if players didn't base their entire ego on internet spaceships, and they didnt take it so personally they are loosing a war about those internet spaceships.
So, you failed to notice that this is a forum about wars with internet spaceships?
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rValdez5987
Amarr Asylum Research and Development Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2007.12.08 06:31:00 -
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POS bowling huh?
tbh I dont have a problem with it, although id probably not use it myself...
It wouldn't hurt to fix it though I guess.
try not to kill each other in here.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Elite
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Posted - 2007.12.08 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 08/12/2007 06:37:36 Thanks for the necro! and it IS an exploit now afaik it was announced back a while after the last post in this thread,
Its also been fixed as ships warping to the POS cant land closer than 5km from the shields...
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Mr Broker
Amarr Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.12.08 06:54:00 -
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why even discuss this with posters who do not belong to major alliances, these posters only use pos for mining 
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