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Gidien Kane
Amarr OneHundredRed
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Posted - 2007.05.30 03:23:00 -
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It's gotten harder and harder to root for what ever is left of the Coalition.  GK-
*snip* Sig removed. Please email us if you would like to know why. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) |

FireFox McProwler
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.30 03:29:00 -
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When they go and start banning accounts because some people cant hack it like good little troopers. Honestly if CCP bans peoples accounts over this it would be a positive thing. Expressing your opinion about a matter is one thing but going above and beyond the call of duty over it is something else.
Once again I hope Goon tell us what wow server they go to.
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Herculite
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.30 03:34:00 -
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Edited by: Herculite on 30/05/2007 03:33:56
Originally by: Gungankllr Quite simply, public perception right now is that CCP is biased towards one specific group of players.
Work on changing the perception, and I doubt things like this would happen in the first place.
I don't see huge accusations of inequality on any other MMORPG, just this one.
By screwing us over unfairly?
What people perceive is their issue. If they want to make excuses of cheating is what led them to empire thats their problem. If perception was more important than reality CCP would have never stated the original cheating took place.
I'll take the truth over someone having a tantrums perception any day thanks.
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Resipsa Loquitor
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.30 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: THE RIZA Did CCP really just threaten us with an internet lawsuit? Hahahahahahaha
servers and community are under attack hahahahahaha
Someone is not familiar with the Compuserve decision regarding trespass to electronic servers and accounts beyond their licensed usage.
Someone is also not familiar with libel and electronic media.
I'll try to get a citations for those tomorrow.
People think they can do whatever they want on the internet and get away with it.
How quaint. Almost 1999 thinking. ---
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Flaming Lemming
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Posted - 2007.05.30 03:47:00 -
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It's funny, when ANTI-CCP or ANTI-BoB stuff from the information portal gets cross posted to other forums, *BAM* instalock.
Anti-Goon stuff? Follow your own rules CCP.
there's no such thing as bad press WTT : MSN info with CCP, I wanna chat too |

Elisca Black
Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.30 03:47:00 -
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WRECKING SHOT CCP!
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Fabrezio
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.30 03:49:00 -
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Edited by: Fabrezio on 30/05/2007 03:48:26 Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:00:00 -
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Its really simple guys.... If CCP employees will quit cheating to thier advantage or for the advantage of others in game, then goons and other resources will stop reporting it. Do not be upset at the goons or whatever party it is that is reporting the "ILLEGAL" and unfair activities of those that can create an unfair advantage or downfall of others. After the T20 thing, I am far more liable to belive goonswarm over CCP at this time about this and / or any other events in the near future. CCP has a long way to go before they retain any real faith from the player base.
WildCat
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Flaming Lemming It's funny, when ANTI-CCP or ANTI-BoB stuff from the information portal gets cross posted to other forums, *BAM* instalock.
Anti-Goon stuff? Follow your own rules CCP.
QFT -------------------------------------
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:02:00 -
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BTW BoD cheats, CCP has devs running major alliances, and T20 is still playing the game.
Maybe that will bring the lock hammer.  -------------------------------------
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:04:00 -
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The sad part is , its all true lol 8)
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Alty MacAlterson
Alt Corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:05:00 -
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THIS JUST IN: Someone does something stupid, stupid people blamed for it. Film at 11.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav BTW BoD cheats, CCP has devs running major alliances, and T20 is still playing the game.
Maybe that will bring the lock hammer. 
Or maybe it will get you a perma ban, because you must have been warned about it few times by now.
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Royaldo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: NATMav BTW BoD cheats, CCP has devs running major alliances, and T20 is still playing the game.
Maybe that will bring the lock hammer. 
Or maybe it will get you a perma ban, because you must have been warned about it few times by now.
post with your dev? 
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Obron Mettlo
Minmatar Black Omega Security GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:15:00 -
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Edited by: Obron Mettlo on 30/05/2007 04:15:38
Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: NATMav BTW BoD cheats, CCP has devs running major alliances, and T20 is still playing the game.
Maybe that will bring the lock hammer. 
Or maybe it will get you a perma ban, because you must have been warned about it few times by now.
one man alt-corp that's pro-bob that never gets banned or moderated sighting
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Adam Weishaupt
Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Nagato
Originally by: Moonlight Express Hope they ban them all. EVE is better off without goons. Great news.
Shooting through the POS bubble, spawning T2 BPOs, having a lead developer commanding your capital ship fleet, a direct line to CCP developers and GMs with the ability to get someone they don't like fired at the snap of their fingers, and untold exploits without any reprimand are what people are going to remember BoB for.
As for GoonFleet? All people have against us is the "pack" and our use of T1 frigates to give newbies in EVE a fighting chance at actually doing something. ("t1 frig noobs should stay in empire where they belong IMHO")
We challenge the status quo of the game and people hate us with the most bitter vitriol I've ever seen. Love it.
The loudest voices carry the most, so the ones who hate are the ones you hear. You guys are talented in getting attention and novel in gameplay style, and I don't hold that against you, but there is plenty of other stuff, imho, to tarnish your, um, image. And I use the collective 'you'...
1) Close relationship with RA, the biggest known plex exploiters in EVE. 2) Dependence on RL money to fund IG activities. 3) fofofofofo - anytime one of you mentions "unprofessional treatment" at the hands of CCP, I think of the log one posted of a Goon fleet which had been deliberately lagging local with fofo crap abusing a GM who was being way too nice...that was the tipping point for me. 4) Altering the game client. Remember, you hacked EVE for the standings display before it was implemented. "Oh, the fact it was implemented shows it was necessary!" I agree! Doesn't change a thing. 5) Metagaming. It's the same reason a lot of people don't like BOB, and you've done it on an even larger scale than they have.
You wanted to have a big impact on a MMORPG? Congrats, you have. You wanted to expose some disease at the core? I don't think you've made a compelling case. The 'cure' is worse than the disease. I think a lot of you are really smart guys, and I am sure I'd like you if I met you, but please realize that you're alienating a huge portion of us through your actions. Don't blame BOB, screw BOB, look at how you're doing things and how you've portrayed yourselves in the past. That is why you lack credibility and why large numbers cringe to associate themselves with you.
On one hand you accuse CCP of ruining the game and victimizing its players, on the other you patronize the community and accuse it of blindness and complicity, when you have failed to present sufficiently damning evidence. You didn't mount an offensive like this when you were actually provably right, and you're surprised to get a backlash when you throw it all against the wall and none of it sticks?
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Invidious Malinigvious
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.30 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Flaming Lemming Edited by: Flaming Lemming on 30/05/2007 04:01:05 It's funny, when ANTI-CCP or ANTI-BoB stuff from the information portal gets cross posted to other forums, *BAM* instalock.
Anti-Goon stuff? Follow your own rules CCP.
Edit : Crap, I alt-posted. I'll keep it here until modded, it get my point across
Um, lol?
Did you forget about the 160+ page bob hate thread where we were accused of everything from killing JFK to masterminding the Roswell landings?
How soon the mental midgets forget...
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Flaming Lemming
Caldari Puppeteer Press
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Posted - 2007.05.30 05:00:00 -
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Edited by: Flaming Lemming on 30/05/2007 05:00:20
Originally by: Invidious Malinigvious
Originally by: Flaming Lemming Edited by: Flaming Lemming on 30/05/2007 04:01:05 It's funny, when ANTI-CCP or ANTI-BoB stuff from the information portal gets cross posted to other forums, *BAM* instalock.
Anti-Goon stuff? Follow your own rules CCP.
Edit : Crap, I alt-posted. I'll keep it here until modded, it get my point across
Um, lol?
Did you forget about the 160+ page bob hate thread where we were accused of everything from killing JFK to masterminding the Roswell landings?
How soon the mental midgets forget...
And that thread was cross posted here? I believe I said something about cross-posting? That's OK, I know staring at **edit, this part wasn't needed, bordered on trolling- self modded** there's no such thing as bad press WTT : MSN info with CCP, I wanna chat too |

Yuki Nagato
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.30 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Adam Weishaupt
The loudest voices carry the most, so the ones who hate are the ones you hear. You guys are talented in getting attention and novel in gameplay style, and I don't hold that against you, but there is plenty of other stuff, imho, to tarnish your, um, image. And I use the collective 'you'...
1) Close relationship with RA, the biggest known plex exploiters in EVE.
As opposed to BoB who ran the broken Blood Raiders complexes like clockwork while they were on a 50 minute respawn timer and stockpiled deadspace equipment that they all have their dreads fit now? Oh yeah, and then a close BoB pet just happens to mention to CCP that they're broken months after the fact just as RA starts contesting them.
Quote: 2) Dependence on RL money to fund IG activities.
You mean the timecard referral money, or the fact that some of our members buy GTCs to sell for ISK? It's an accepted form of gameplay by CCP, so get the hell over it.
Quote: 3) fofofofofo - anytime one of you mentions "unprofessional treatment" at the hands of CCP, I think of the log one posted of a Goon fleet which had been deliberately lagging local with fofo crap abusing a GM who was being way too nice...that was the tipping point for me.
You can go back and look at the logs, and you'll clearly see that we only did it after fights, and not during. The chat and game servers servers are two different things so even if the chat server got lagged you wouldn't notice anything as far as gameplay goes. This was refuted time and time again but thats alright since our battlecry was a convenient scapegoat for our enemies. "No guys we didn't lose that fleet battle, it was the lag of the goons fofofo'ing in local five minutes after the fight! Petition!!!"
Quote: 4) Altering the game client. Remember, you hacked EVE for the standings display before it was implemented. "Oh, the fact it was implemented shows it was necessary!" I agree! Doesn't change a thing.
I don't think you understand just how basic the "hack" is, and CCP, after a year, still hasn't implemented hash checking against the portraits or any of that crap, which they could have easily done. Instead, they implemented it into the client.
Quote: 5) Metagaming. It's the same reason a lot of people don't like BOB, and you've done it on an even larger scale than they have.
And look how far it's gotten us. To be successful, you have to be competitive, and to be competitive, you need to be a pro at the metagame. That's just the way EVE is. Get used to it. BoB do it, we do it, anyone whose left standing in 0.0 right now does it. Sorry if that annoys you.
Quote: You wanted to have a big impact on a MMORPG? Congrats, you have. You wanted to expose some disease at the core? I don't think you've made a compelling case. The 'cure' is worse than the disease. I think a lot of you are really smart guys, and I am sure I'd like you if I met you, but please realize that you're alienating a huge portion of us through your actions. Don't blame BOB, screw BOB, look at how you're doing things and how you've portrayed yourselves in the past. That is why you lack credibility and why large numbers cringe to associate themselves with you.
On one hand you accuse CCP of ruining the game and victimizing its players, on the other you patronize the community and accuse it of blindness and complicity, when you have failed to present sufficiently damning evidence. You didn't mount an offensive like this when you were actually provably right, and you're surprised to get a backlash when you throw it all against the wall and none of it sticks?
Honestly not much in that open letter really interests us anymore. The Sharkbait stuff was blown out or proportion and we admit that. Dianabolic admitting that he has a bunch of devs on his MSN list that can take orders from him at the snap of his fingers is what we're really annoyed as hell at Please email us as to why Your signature has been removed - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

DiuxDium
Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.30 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav BTW BoD cheats, CCP has devs running major alliances, and T20 is still playing the game.
Maybe that will bring the lock hammer. 
Proof of 'BoD' cheating right now. Which alliance is a dev RUNNING? Who cares if T20 is still playing?
e; HILARIOUS! I just figured it out "Band of DEVELOPERS" holy gosh darn drat donkey in a top hat! I never realized what that "Acronym" as the kids say was. My god, you've floored me, wow. How could I possibly let that little gem of pure comedy genius slip past me! On gosh darn drat, I feel like such a silly little fish. Haha, man you, you should write for SOMETHINGAWFUL DOT COM, I hear they have a hilarious forum dedicated to hilarious posters like you. Did I mention hilarious in this huge poorly formated post? Because it really is hilarious. Hi-Lar-Ious, that's almost a haiku! ------------- [En] - So....I think the devs don't like me. |

Obron Mettlo
Minmatar Black Omega Security GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.30 05:25:00 -
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Yuki Nagato you are a terrible poster
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.05.30 05:26:00 -
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Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 30/05/2007 05:28:50
Originally by: Yuki Nagato
Honestly not much in that open letter really interests us anymore. The Sharkbait stuff was blown out or proportion and we admit that. Dianabolic admitting that he has a bunch of devs on his MSN list that can take orders from him at the snap of his fingers is what we're really annoyed as hell at
ummmmm
hook, line, sinker????
btw who has the titan fund. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And the dish ran away with the goon
HAHAHAHAHA
To0 the above poster, get out of the swarm, BOS is much better then that. Join Pandemic. so your BOSNIGGINTEL channel can be goonfree. It is full of spies now.
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Marisa Coulter
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Posted - 2007.05.30 05:29:00 -
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.30 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat Its really simple guys.... If CCP employees will quit cheating to thier advantage or for the advantage of others in game, then goons and other resources will stop reporting it. Do not be upset at the goons or whatever party it is that is reporting the "ILLEGAL" and unfair activities of those that can create an unfair advantage or downfall of others. After the T20 thing, I am far more liable to belive goonswarm over CCP at this time about this and / or any other events in the near future. CCP has a long way to go before they retain any real faith from the player base.
WildCat
/signed ---------------------- Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.30 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: NATMav BTW BoD cheats, CCP has devs running major alliances, and T20 is still playing the game.
Maybe that will bring the lock hammer. 
Or maybe it will get you a perma ban, because you must have been warned about it few times by now.
God, we can all only pray.
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.05.30 06:16:00 -
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This is not needed.
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