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Posted - 2007.05.31 04:24:00 -
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OK so hang on....apparently 2 BoB titans go POS bowling...you petition....GM says not an exploit
Then an hour or two later the lead GM makes an announcement stating that they are making it illegal
So you expect someone to be punished for something that at the time it was done wasnt illegal
Yes....i follow this train of thought perfectly
Secondly you want your screen shots to be the evidence given to the GM's regarding such incidents
What is to stop someone from photoshopping an image and getting an honest player banned simply because he/she can
again....i see where your train of thought is going
and to be honest....i want off
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Posted - 2007.05.31 04:46:00 -
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 Originally by: fugazii
Originally by: juduzz
Originally by: fugazii
when bob can do it, with no chance of it being done back to them it is legal.
when other alliance super caps come into picture(hi goons), its made illegal.
Fug its been done by BOB AAA, IAC establishment aprently D" you name it, its not some BOB ****.
true, however bob is not camping in those peoples space 24/7 therefor they wouldnt be doing it to bob as much as it would be by those being sieged. plus d2's supercaps are up north, yet once the alliance that bob is camping 24/7 gets the ability to do it, the rules change the very day. maybe coincidence, but youve got to admit it smells a bit fishy.
nonetheless, i still think anyone, no matter what alliance, doing this should have all accounts associated to thier ip banned.
Id sit down and think about what exactly you are trying to imply here before you continue to make another attempt at slapping together some letters to form words.
BoB as well as many other alliances have had "Super Caps" for a long time now
There have been several instances of POS bowling on both sides of the conflict
POS bowling done in BoB space is now just as illegal as it is in Goon or D2 or IAC space
Your either terribly missinformed
Really behind on the current state of events in Eve
Or you are suffering from some form of cranial std that limits the number of braincells capabable occupying any given region of your skull
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Posted - 2007.05.31 05:11:00 -
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Something must be getting lost in translation, my english must not be that great. I'll try to keep it in small easy to understand, point form notes for you
Obron - It doesnt matter who did what how many times. There was miscommunication between GM's several months ago where no one knew what was going on. It was later straightend out as to not be an exploit. Now thru copius ammounts of complaining I assume they have decided to make it an exploit again. It not like it was an exploit on monday....not an exploit on tuesday...and now an exploit again on wednesday. Get with the programe
Gharthak - If you had a problem the ruling given to you, your corporation or your alliances actions "several" months ago as you stated, why you would begin to air them now with the subtle undertone of ccp bias towards BoB. Why wouldnt you raise this concern a few months ago when CCP decided to say it wasnt an exploit? Stop trying to keep the flame wagon rolling towards CCP offices.
Arakk - I dont know where to begin with you, but if you dont want me to rat you out on MSN to all my dev/gm/isd/forum mod buddies off in the distand reaches of iceland for POS bowling.......then just dont go pos bowling and there wont be a problem?
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Posted - 2007.05.31 05:20:00 -
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fugazii how can you at the start of your post go on about how you are trying to lead a civil discussion and imply that I am a mean man by bringing in "personal atacks and flames", and then finish your post with a personal attack? Clearly your record player is skipping all over the place and you dont know whats happening.
Secondly, dont for one second try to back track by saying you were not implying that BoB were the only ones doing it. If other alliances were doing it you would have brought them up as well. Further more, where is this "it seems fishy the day that the alliance that your currently sieging gets the capability to do it back it becomes illegal" jargen come from? Last I checked the D2 Titan was killed in Fountain or something, which there are plenty of BoB Friendly pos's in and is a hop skip and a jump away from Delve which is loaded with BoB pos's.
If your going to try and argue a point with me sir, make sure you are reading the same page of the book as the rest of the class
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Posted - 2007.05.31 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Deathwing
Secondly you want your screen shots to be the evidence given to the GM's regarding such incidents
What is to stop someone from photoshopping an image and getting an honest player banned simply because he/she can
I don't understand the OP. GM decisions has ALWAYS been inconsistent. Some GM says this, the other says something completely different and a third one has again some other position. That is nothing new.
And well, if at that time the action was allowed, then there is no chance to petition it anyway because it was allowed. Now it is forbidden.
The problem here is that POS bowling cannot be proved easily! If you write a petition then the GM will look at it when all the harm is done and the cheater long gone already. Now those bob people can just call up on MSN their GM friends and ask to take a quick look because someone is cheating while all the other players have to wait such long via the petition system that the evidence is already gone 
The best bet would be to fill a harassment petition I think because they are accessed quite quickly and that is what is happening there to you, a harrassment. And so there are at least some chances that the cheater get caught in the act.
Can CCP and BoB file a harassment petition againt you for slandering them on the forums by stating that BoB use MSN to by-pass ingame processes for GM investigation and intervention?
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Posted - 2007.05.31 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Edited by: Marcus Druallis on 31/05/2007 05:43:45
Originally by: Deathwing
fugazii how can you at the start of your post go on about how you are trying to lead a civil discussion and imply that I am a mean man by bringing in "personal atacks and flames", and then finish your post with a personal attack? Clearly your record player is skipping all over the place and you dont know whats happening.
Secondly, dont for one second try to back track by saying you were not implying that BoB were the only ones doing it. If other alliances were doing it you would have brought them up as well. Further more, where is this "it seems fishy the day that the alliance that your currently sieging gets the capability to do it back it becomes illegal" jargen come from? Last I checked the D2 Titan was killed in Fountain or something, which there are plenty of BoB Friendly pos's in and is a hop skip and a jump away from Delve which is loaded with BoB pos's.
If your going to try and argue a point with me sir, make sure you are reading the same page of the book as the rest of the class
To be fair you are kind of putting words in peoples mouths, AND you are agressively trying to argue a point that the OP was not trying to make. OP was commenting on CCP's lack of decisiveness. The "kind of fishy" deal was how it was illegal for his Alliance to do it, but then later it was legal for you. THEN, it was conveniently made officially illegal after you had done it. Just pointing this out, as you said your English isn't the best, you might not be reading this right.
Again I refer to the example of....this was not an exploit on monday.....legal on tuesday....and then an exploit again on wednesday
the changes in GM policy towards "POS Bowling" was over the course of several months. Do you understand the point I am trying to put accross to you?
Something happened to the OP several months ago, shortly after that incident occured the Senior GM's got together and probably decided that there is no way they can effetivly police it so they said it wasnt illegal. For a long time since then it wasnt illegal, only now after many many complaints about it, the Senior GM's probably got together again and for the sake of trying to appease the masses, made it illegal again.
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Posted - 2007.05.31 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kraken Sra'vik
Edited by: Kraken Sra''vik on 31/05/2007 06:06:42
Edited by: Kraken Sra''vik on 31/05/2007 06:06:03
Originally by: Deathwing
Can CCP and BoB
Idk, you tell us 
1 post edited twice...and thats what you came up with......right
to answer your question....idk either...none of them are on msn atm but when they do log on i'll ask them k?
wait lemme check my yahoo messenger.....or icq...or facebook
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