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Archeausz Viziam	Posted - 2007.06.01 10:45:00 - [1] the question is in the title... A few more years ? 5 years... What really ? Depends on the revealations 2 Id expect, but anyone have a estimate for how long you think it will live on to ?
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.06.01 10:48:00 - [2] Meridian 59's still running. Don't hold your breath on EVE dying in the next decade.
Miss Anthropy School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.06.01 10:48:00 - [3] It all depends on when Dark Shikari gets bored of the forums and abandons us all to our ignorance. Therefore I give it 1.5 years. Hey CCP!!! I want my new face for these forums. This is one ugly biatch!
Nero Scuro Jejaikaro Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.01 10:51:00 - [4] EVE will never die, it is beyond time and gives meaning and existance to the whole of mankind. /generic fanboi response --------- CLICK HERE to see how to keep an idiot busy
Manny Tanato Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.01 10:53:00 - [5] Edited by: Manny Tanato on 01/06/2007 10:52:54 I gotta say it should be around for a darn long time. There are shootier (IMHO that is) games that have been around for ages, no reason that EVE should go away when those POSes are still around. Subjective judgement of course. But then again, it occurs to me that EVE management is abit too much on the passionate side and not enough on the professional side, so I'd say that if EVE should die, it'd be because of misjudgement by management, not because this piece of software was not deserving of survival. -=[ I huff and I puff and nothing falls... ]=-
Cheval Blanc	Posted - 2007.06.01 10:53:00 - [6] Given how we haven't broken a user record for ages, I think Starcraft II will be the push to the end.
Gammagandalf Copperhead Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.01 10:56:00 - [7] Originally by: Cheval Blanc Given how we haven't broken a user record for ages, I think Starcraft II will be the push to the end. starcraft 2? lol. right.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.01 10:56:00 - [8] 16 months SKUNK
Zoe Mygou	Posted - 2007.06.01 10:58:00 - [9] Originally by: Cheval Blanc Given how we haven't broken a user record for ages, I think Starcraft II will be the push to the end. Roflcopters. I would say that it will last at least until something else worth playing comes out, and many years more than that.
Lou Margoulin	Posted - 2007.06.01 10:58:00 - [10] when a better pvp centric MMOG will come out it will take a blow. when a better pvp centric space opera MMOG will come out it will be the end. Not tomorrow i think !
Marcus Starr FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:01:00 - [11] No later than some time after devs like Tomb, Oveur, etc. retire. Band of Brothers 2 Stolen Footage
Glumpumpkin House Elf Liberation Front	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:01:00 - [12] If it lives long enough for CCP to hire some brilliant parallel processing programmers and completely rewrite their underlying code to accomodate lag-free 1000x1000 battles, EVE will probably last until a malevolent player amasses enough wealth or power to ruin the fun.
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:01:00 - [13] World of starcraft... why will you suck so much... Originally by: Dr Cupid Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!
Nero Scuro Jejaikaro Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:03:00 - [14] For a serious answer - I think AoC will attract away the playerbase looking for PvP, the new Startrek MMO or Infinity will attract Sci-fi buffs away and Darkfall will attract the people looking for depth (me). If most or even some of those games are complete flops then EVE should be safe. Only two things really kill an established MMO - new competition offering the exact same thing but better, or the devs screwing up the gameplay in a collosal way (cough SWG). People will whine a lot, but if they've not got an alternative to move to (as EVE doesn't at the minute -everything else is PvE grindfests) they'll stay. The minute they have an alternative however... --------- CLICK HERE to see how to keep an idiot busy
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:05:00 - [15] The only thing that will kill EVE is a scifi PvP-based MMORPG that is superior to EVE. Considering the quality of MMORPGs these days, I don't that happening that soon. --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio!
Manny Tanato Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Marcus Starr No later than some time after devs like Tomb, Oveur, etc. retire. Oh but didn't you know, when people take an extraordinary vision and make it into a tangible reality, and get other people sucked into it, then they can't retire. Only death will release them from this incredible bond that they have forged. :) <3 EVE creators. -=[ I huff and I puff and nothing falls... ]=-
Samuel Freedom Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:10:00 - [17] There is some really crappy MMO's out there that have been going for years and given that EVE is good I think it will be around for some time to come imo over a decade easily. That being said the real question is how long will EVE be one of the better MMO's, I mean if EVE is crap in 2 years for one reason or another just because I will have played it for a long time doesn't mean I will carry on playing it(I know people that play LOM II its really crap but I think alot of them play it just because they have been playing so long they don't want to 'start as a newb' just because they have a level 48 wizard or w/e, fools it is a complete grindfest and has the worst customers service team this side of the worm hole, I have tried to get them to play EVE, but they are like herion addicts
Pehova Mindtriq Endgame.	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:12:00 - [18] I know lots of people who are sick of this game because of the devs playing the game and the only thing stopping them is the lack of a good online game to take it's place. As someone said before, when a similar but better game than eve comes out people will leave.
Cheval Blanc	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:12:00 - [19] Originally by: Gammagandalf Originally by: Cheval Blanc Given how we haven't broken a user record for ages, I think Starcraft II will be the push to the end. starcraft 2? lol. right. hey ill take your sarcasm as a compliment, and will bump this thread up half a year after it's released. deal?
Ethaet Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:12:00 - [20] until everyone leaves from nerfage/annoyance Originally by: Phoenixhawk Patching.......... Oh wow look the servers didnt all shut down. Hi-Five another successful patch....Durrrwomp....Hey who turned out the lights, oh look there's light outside the wi
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:13:00 - [21] Edited by: Amarria Black on 01/06/2007 11:12:40 Originally by: Cheval Blanc Originally by: Gammagandalf Originally by: Cheval Blanc Given how we haven't broken a user record for ages, I think Starcraft II will be the push to the end. starcraft 2? lol. right. hey ill take your sarcasm as a compliment, and will bump this thread up half a year after it's released. deal? So some time in 2013? Edit: read "Year and a half" instead of "half a year"
E Vile Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:16:00 - [22] 1 word...... Bioware "The key to immortality is to first live a life worth remembering." Shohadaku New York Metal
Gallente McNuggets	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:20:00 - [23] Eve will start to die when BoB and all their narrow-sighted slaves finish eradicating all their 0.0 opposition. Because then it will be BoB titan/cap fleets versus Empire-based foes, who are limited to building battleships. Once 0.0 is pwned, there will be no real way for alliances to get a new foothold and they'll all leave for greener pastures. A lot of players already would have quit if it wasn't for the fact that there's no other half-assed space MMO to play.
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:23:00 - [24] Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 01/06/2007 11:35:03 Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 01/06/2007 11:22:59 Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq I know lots of people who are sick of this game because of the devs playing the game and the only thing stopping them is the lack of a good online game to take it's place. As someone said before, when a similar but better game than eve comes out people will leave. Funny, devs from other company play their game too, but it's only here that a vocal minority of players complain... Quote: A lot of players already would have quit if it wasn't for the fact that there's no other half-assed space MMO to play. My thoughts exactly.
cal nereus Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:27:00 - [25] Technically speaking, if BoB ever did conquer all of 0.0 space, it would then have to compete with all those former members of all the alliances it defeated AND new players AND its former friends (who would either fight amongst themselves or take advantage of BoB's over-extended-ness to take a larger chunk of the overall pie that is 0.0). Policing 0.0 space would become a fulltime job, and a less fun one than simply conquering it. Conquering 0.0 would be easy by comparison, and I'm sure BoB would either have a hard time doing it, or would simply break up into its constituent parts and fight amongst themselves while new or old alliances claim or reclaim parts of 0.0 in the wake of the civil war and madness that would ensue. Woo, long sentence. :D EVE will last 14 years.
Barbaro55a Caldari Os Lobos Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:45:00 - [26] It will be a Tuesday. .......................................... We come in peace - My sig and your sig would make cute baby sigs.
sesanti Minmatar Universal Exports Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:04:00 - [27] The only near competitor for EVE that comes to my mind now is that Infitiny or something game, but it is on the early stages of development and the last i heard about it would take them several years to even release the BETA. We have EVE for long, if CCP upholds their own ideals and don't turn this game into a consentual PVP game. /sarcasm mode on Oh wait, another serious competitor would be "Derek's Smart MMORPG" based on the Battlecruiser SERIES... /sarcasm mode off _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... don't mind the portrait>
Glengrant Minmatar TOHA Heavy Industries FROST Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:16:00 - [28] Originally by: Nero Scuro For a serious answer - I think AoC will attract away the playerbase looking for PvP, the new AoC won't attract the many players who are into sci-fi. And wether the pvp is competitive - time will tell. Originally by: Nero Scuro Startrek MMO Like SWG an established brand name like ST will attract a lot of players for a time. Like SWG it's likely it's being pushed by marketing droids with no passion for the game itself and get ruined. Also - with hundreds of thousands of players not everyone can be Cpt Picard or Scotty. IMHO having a big brand name is good for short term attracting a mass of players - but bad for long term viability. Players will get disappointed exactly because they have too high expectations based on the big brand franchise (SWG, LOTRO, ST). Originally by: Nero Scuro or Infinity will attract Sci-fi buffs away Why? Yeah - it looks nice enough - but what exactly would lure many eve players away? There is more to a well-designed game than to talk about correct orbits - and who needs billions of stars? Originally by: Nero Scuro and Darkfall will attract the people looking for depth (me). Looks great, might be good - but is fantasy - so won't attract any of those here who prefer sci-fi- and re if the depth is better than Eve - we'll see. Originally by: Nero Scuro If most or even some of those games are complete flops then EVE should be safe. Eve can easily survive even if most of the mentioned games are great successes. First the MMOG market is growing - so one games success doesn't have to lead to another game total failure. Originally by: Nero Scuro Only two things really kill an established MMO - new competition offering the exact same thing but better, or the devs screwing up the gameplay in a collosal way (cough SWG). I have yet to see any other MMOG that is overall as well designed as Eve. Not that that it is perfect - but on the whole I see a consistent trend behind design decision that IMHO are mostly right. Originally by: Nero ScuroPeople will whine a lot, but if they've not got an alternative to move to (as EVE doesn't at the minute -everything else is PvE grindfests) they'll stay. The minute they have an alternative however...[/quote True. But eve is also changing and adapting.
Switchbl4d3 ii	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:23:00 - [29] 7.5 more hours, then a asteroid will hit the lynx and kill the server
Switchbl4d3 ii	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:23:00 - [30] 7.48 . ... ......
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:30:00 - [31] eh? But the EANMII nerf apparently is the end of Eve, so this is a moot point no? Eve: Cheats prosper.
Barbaro55a Caldari Os Lobos Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.06.01 13:06:00 - [32] Originally by: Switchbl4d3 ii 7.48 . ... ...... thats funny, but what would happen if a fire took out the server? or a rouge taxi / asteroid? Is it ALL backed up? .......................................... We come in peace - My sig and your sig would make cute baby sigs.
Great Artista Purple Cloud	Posted - 2007.06.01 13:10:00 - [33] EVE is a state of mind. I cant remeber where I remebered this thing from, it was a quote involving some infamous forum troll. ___________________________________
Pehova Mindtriq Endgame.	Posted - 2007.06.01 14:47:00 - [34] Originally by: Ares Lightfeather Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 01/06/2007 11:35:03 Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 01/06/2007 11:22:59 Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq I know lots of people who are sick of this game because of the devs playing the game and the only thing stopping them is the lack of a good online game to take it's place. As someone said before, when a similar but better game than eve comes out people will leave. Funny, devs from other company play their game too, but it's only here that a vocal minority of players complain... I meant in the way they are involved in alliance warfare which have an effect on alot of players. There are other games that don't allow devs to play and guess what? So far there haven't been an t20 incident in those games. I don't think there is just a vocal minority that don't trust CCP atm, it's much larger than that. If they had an poll onn if players trust ccp or not I think it would show a great number of players not trusting them.
Wild Rho Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.06.01 14:52:00 - [35] It'll probably last until the devs simply run out of new things to bring to the game or new directions to take it. Sooner or later people do get bored and fresh changes and new toys do help keep/revive the interest.
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.01 14:58:00 - [36] Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 01/06/2007 14:58:45 Quote: I don't think there is just a vocal minority that don't trust CCP atm, it's much larger than that. If they had an poll onn if players trust ccp or not I think it would show a great number of players not trusting them. Actually I think the opposite. But whatever. They did put some things into place to avoid the problem from occuring again, they did take steps to punish the offender, and as a result, idiots are continuing to say it isn't enough. Come on, wake up and think. What else you want them to do, have 5 players from different corps and alliance behind every dev to see if they don't cheat ? This story of trust is getting old and annoying. There are a lot of ways to prevent cheating from devs, and they have put them into place... furthermore, there is no motive at all for them to cheat. Furthermore, they did what they could, and some players are still spamming for some reason that they don't trust them. Well I'll paraphrase wrangler then : if you don't like the transparency level CCP works with, leave. But if you want a poll, get one. My bet is that the result will be that most people actually trust them.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.06.01 14:58:00 - [37] I'm going to say around 2011 EVE will be gone... And replaced by EVE2. The outdated code simply cannot last that long, especially if Infinity takes off and does well... EVE's survival probably depends as much on it's competition as it does on CCP... Building the homestead
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:00:00 - [38] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 01/06/2007 14:59:28 Ahahahahahahaha The OP has me cr4ckin' up over here: Originally by: "Silly OP" Depends on the revealations 2 Id expect, but Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Oh wow, what rock have you been under? ahahahahahahahahaha At any rate, look at the game we have here. It's kickin' hard and it's also very kickin' rad ;D Truth be told though, I'd love to see EVE grow to be so large each highsec system is as full then as Jita is now. More kills for us ebil piwats ;D edit: damned word filter edits out the word cr4ck :( _________________ Burn.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:00:00 - [39] eve will last until 2142 when the world is covered in glaciers and some numbskull has the bright idea of making a tank that hovers Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink.
alexreborn	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:00:00 - [40] I really like this game but I find somethings really annoying. But it happens in all games: The quest for getting bigger and better ships. Titans, Dreads, Motherships, Carriers. These super capitals make small alliances of 20-50 people utterly useless. I dont know why CCP would want the game to be centered around super huge aliances, but that really takes the fun out of the game for me. I dont like fighting in blobs of 100 vs 100. I like small gangs, of 2 to 10 people max. I also find that people are becoming real big chickens in this game which is also starting to ruin it for me - 30 man blob of mixed fleet to take on 2 battle cruisers, and when that 30 man blob is about too loose a frigate THERE goes the CYNO field and in comes a mother ship. What this game really needs is a return to its roots. Where flying a cruiser is bad-ass. Flying a battleship is like OMG hes got a battleship.
ChironV Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:18:00 - [41] The longevity of eve is dependent on its competition. Right now there are no other MMO science fiction based games that are its equal. Most players here have played other MMO and are tired of fantasy based games. Eve is different in that its completely different genre. That differnce will easily extend its viability by another 2 years. If you read the trades on upcoming MMO games you will see that almost all are fantasy based, leaving Eve as the standout in its genre. If CCP continues to develop eve it could easily be around for 5 years. Depends on DX10, lag, growth of the playerbase and customer relations. ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
Tempus Fugitive Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:37:00 - [42] All games come to an end, no matter how good. It's sad, but true. They may technically still be up and running, but they're walking dead. Of all the games I've played, I see Eve as having the greatest potential. It's universe is full of infinite possiblity. What can't Eve do is the question? I can imagine so much for Eve in time. "Walking in Stations" is a baby step in the big picture - in ten years we could be fighting planetary surface wars. And Eve's current market and industry, as complex as it is, is only the tip of the iceberg. Sadly, in the end it most likely won't be Eve running out of new ideas that will kill it, it'll be it's own player-base strangling its growth. People want things to stay exactly the same right up until the point they get bored and quit. Meanwhile they kick and scream over every change the game developers suggest. They are often so short-sighted that they can't see the proverbial forest for the trees. So... my guess... is 3 more years. I sure hope I'm wrong, though. ---- And no I'm not an alt.
Miriyana Gallente Galactic Savings and Investments	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:56:00 - [43] Originally by: Barbaro55a Originally by: Switchbl4d3 ii 7.48 . ... ...... thats funny, but what would happen if a fire took out the server? or a rouge taxi / asteroid? Is it ALL backed up? We're a worries about French Red taxies and asteroids - - - - - - Change just leads to more problems
SiJira	Posted - 2007.06.01 17:57:00 - [44] Originally by: Archeausz the question is in the title... A few more years ? 5 years... What really ? Depends on the revealations 2 Id expect, but anyone have a estimate for how long you think it will live on to ? if it constantly evolves like all mmos should and eve obviously has been then it does not need an end - it only needs to keep growing ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
SiJira	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:01:00 - [45] Originally by: DarkMatter I'm going to say around 2011 EVE will be gone... And replaced by EVE2. The outdated code simply cannot last that long, especially if Infinity takes off and does well... EVE's survival probably depends as much on it's competition as it does on CCP... its code can be completely changed - while still keeping the infrastructure built up from the ground ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:03:00 - [46] I hope it goes on until there are only a few hundred people logged in during primetime. Probably another 4 or 5 years or until Eve 2 comes out.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:15:00 - [47] In theory, it need never die. What sense would it make to scrap a perfectly good game with a large player base in order to release "EVE 2"? It makes far more sense to just "update" the current EVE to the point where it becomes barely recognisable as the original release. What with the major game play overhauls in some patches and the upcoming brand new graphics engines (not to mention countless back end changes), it's already becoming difficult to reconcile Revelations era EVE with EVE: The Second Genesis. I seem to remember once in an old thread much like this, to the question of "when can we expect EVE 2?" a Dev answered along the lines of "You've played EVE 2; it was called "Castor".". --------
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn I hope it goes on until there are only a few hundred people logged in during primetime. Probably another 4 or 5 years or until Eve 2 comes out. Compared to what EVE was after release we are playing EVE 2 right now. A 10 year plan mentioned by CCP before, and judging by how late the patches usually are the plans will stretch on for decades. The game design is superior to anything in the making ot on the market, and frankly, I can't think of anything better being developed at all. Usually when I play games I always have ideas about what would be nice to add, but with EVE it is always the other way around. CCP adds things that I didn't think were technically possible or things that I haven't even thought about. The only way EVE is going to end is if there is a company as good as CCP that can afford/provide better technological solutions to improve server performance.
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:21:00 - [49] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: DarkMatter I'm going to say around 2011 EVE will be gone... And replaced by EVE2. The outdated code simply cannot last that long, especially if Infinity takes off and does well... EVE's survival probably depends as much on it's competition as it does on CCP... its code can be completely changed - while still keeping the infrastructure built up from the ground If I am not mistaken the code was already partially changed some time ago.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:24:00 - [50] Edited by: DarkMatter on 01/06/2007 18:23:48 Originally by: Tecam Hund Originally by: SiJira Originally by: DarkMatter I'm going to say around 2011 EVE will be gone... And replaced by EVE2. The outdated code simply cannot last that long, especially if Infinity takes off and does well... EVE's survival probably depends as much on it's competition as it does on CCP... its code can be completely changed - while still keeping the infrastructure built up from the ground If I am not mistaken the code was already partially changed some time ago. Yes partially. But I'd imagine at some point in time, the EVE code will be such a monster, it would be more costly to modify it than to start fresh, and migrate everyone's characters & assets to a new "game" That's what I would consider EVE 2... Eventually the game would need to move to totally new software & hardware infrastucture... I'd imagine this process would take more than a 24 hour downtime, etc... Building the homestead
Abdullah al'Weyouni	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:39:00 - [51] Depends on when the next war starts
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:43:00 - [52] Originally by: Abdullah al'Weyouni Depends on when the next war starts This man has a point. RL political issues are the biggest concern. Someone could launch a nuke tomorrow and EVE would be over. Or if the servers are flooded due to the global warming. Can hamsters swim? I don't know...
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:45:00 - [53] Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 01/06/2007 18:23:48 Originally by: Tecam Hund Originally by: SiJira Originally by: DarkMatter I'm going to say around 2011 EVE will be gone... And replaced by EVE2. The outdated code simply cannot last that long, especially if Infinity takes off and does well... EVE's survival probably depends as much on it's competition as it does on CCP... its code can be completely changed - while still keeping the infrastructure built up from the ground If I am not mistaken the code was already partially changed some time ago. Yes partially. But I'd imagine at some point in time, the EVE code will be such a monster, it would be more costly to modify it than to start fresh, and migrate everyone's characters & assets to a new "game" That's what I would consider EVE 2... Eventually the game would need to move to totally new software & hardware infrastucture... I'd imagine this process would take more than a 24 hour downtime, etc... I suppose its a matter of semantics as to whether that could be considered EVE 2 or not. It could simply be presented as the next "expansion pack", in which case in what way can it be said that EVE has died? Its a bit like Trigger's Broom- he's used the same broom for 25 years, and never needed a new one once. Of course it's had 6 new handles and 12 new brush heads......... The real test will be if CCP were to charge for it, in my mind. If its free software, with the same price subscription, has migrated characters, and is the only currently running version of EVE, I think I'd be hard pushed to describe it as a sequel. --------
Dowey Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:47:00 - [54] Originally by: Tecam Hund Originally by: Abdullah al'Weyouni Depends on when the next war starts This man has a point. RL political issues are the biggest concern. Someone could launch a nuke tomorrow and EVE would be over. Or if the servers are flooded due to the global warming. Can hamsters swim? I don't know... Somehow I had a feelin he wasn't talking about RL issues, but then again he could of been. And the answer to you question is Hamsters can't swim.... atleast mine couldn't anyway ---------------------------------------------- Can't nerf this, dun dun da dun!!!!
sesanti Minmatar Universal Exports Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:51:00 - [55] Originally by: Dowey Originally by: Tecam Hund Originally by: Abdullah al'Weyouni Depends on when the next war starts This man has a point. RL political issues are the biggest concern. Someone could launch a nuke tomorrow and EVE would be over. Or if the servers are flooded due to the global warming. Can hamsters swim? I don't know... Somehow I had a feelin he wasn't talking about RL issues, but then again he could of been. And the answer to you question is Hamsters can't swim.... atleast mine couldn't anyway Maybe in 2 years we get a world war and the first missile crashes into the place where EVE servers are stored. That would be the end of EVE. _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... don't mind the portrait>
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.01 18:53:00 - [56] Originally by: sesanti Originally by: Dowey Originally by: Tecam Hund Originally by: Abdullah al'Weyouni Depends on when the next war starts This man has a point. RL political issues are the biggest concern. Someone could launch a nuke tomorrow and EVE would be over. Or if the servers are flooded due to the global warming. Can hamsters swim? I don't know... Somehow I had a feelin he wasn't talking about RL issues, but then again he could of been. And the answer to you question is Hamsters can't swim.... atleast mine couldn't anyway Maybe in 2 years we get a world war and the first missile crashes into the place where EVE servers are stored. That would be the end of EVE. Not to mention the end of London --------
Dowey Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.06.01 19:08:00 - [57] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: sesanti Originally by: Dowey Originally by: Tecam Hund Originally by: Abdullah al'Weyouni Depends on when the next war starts This man has a point. RL political issues are the biggest concern. Someone could launch a nuke tomorrow and EVE would be over. Or if the servers are flooded due to the global warming. Can hamsters swim? I don't know... Somehow I had a feelin he wasn't talking about RL issues, but then again he could of been. And the answer to you question is Hamsters can't swim.... atleast mine couldn't anyway Maybe in 2 years we get a world war and the first missile crashes into the place where EVE servers are stored. That would be the end of EVE. Not to mention the end of London aa well, its only london (j/k) ---------------------------------------------- Can't nerf this, dun dun da dun!!!!
Korizan Oort Cloud Industries	Posted - 2007.06.01 19:18:00 - [58] The original Everquest is still around. Even with all the fantasy style MMO's out there now it still survives. How many space based MMO's are there ? And sorry but there is NO WAY IN .... I am going back to grind for a level and also make sure you have the cash for those new spells at every level EVER AGAIN.
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.01 19:24:00 - [59] Edited by: Snowden Vel on 01/06/2007 19:22:58 Until the day before your first Titan pops out of the oven. Your signature has been removed due to a lack of EVE-related content. Email [email protected] if you have any questions. Thanks, Hango
Nero Scuro Jejaikaro Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.01 19:39:00 - [60] Edited by: Nero Scuro on 01/06/2007 19:38:19 Originally by: Glengrant Originally by: Nero Scuro For a serious answer - I think AoC will attract away the playerbase looking for PvP, the new AoC won't attract the many players who are into sci-fi. And wether the pvp is competitive - time will tell. Originally by: Nero Scuro Startrek MMO Like SWG an established brand name like ST will attract a lot of players for a time. Like SWG it's likely it's being pushed by marketing droids with no passion for the game itself and get ruined. Also - with hundreds of thousands of players not everyone can be Cpt Picard or Scotty. IMHO having a big brand name is good for short term attracting a mass of players - but bad for long term viability. Players will get disappointed exactly because they have too high expectations based on the big brand franchise (SWG, LOTRO, ST). Originally by: Nero Scuro or Infinity will attract Sci-fi buffs away Why? Yeah - it looks nice enough - but what exactly would lure many eve players away? There is more to a well-designed game than to talk about correct orbits - and who needs billions of stars? Originally by: Nero Scuro and Darkfall will attract the people looking for depth (me). Looks great, might be good - but is fantasy - so won't attract any of those here who prefer sci-fi- and re if the depth is better than Eve - we'll see. Originally by: Nero Scuro If most or even some of those games are complete flops then EVE should be safe. Eve can easily survive even if most of the mentioned games are great successes. First the MMOG market is growing - so one games success doesn't have to lead to another game total failure. Originally by: Nero Scuro Only two things really kill an established MMO - new competition offering the exact same thing but better, or the devs screwing up the gameplay in a collosal way (cough SWG). I have yet to see any other MMOG that is overall as well designed as Eve. Not that that it is perfect - but on the whole I see a consistent trend behind design decision that IMHO are mostly right. Originally by: Nero Scuro People will whine a lot, but if they've not got an alternative to move to (as EVE doesn't at the minute -everything else is PvE grindfests) they'll stay. The minute they have an alternative however... True. But eve is also changing and adapting. Yeah, you're right, EVE will live forever and forever because unlike every business ever anywhere it has nothing to fear from competitors. Ok sorry for being sarcastic but the point has to be made - EVE has a lot of flaws, poorly designed mechanics and limitations. If you're not bothered by any of these flaws of course it seems well designed - you're only concentrating on what was done right. EVE WILL suffer from competition if that competition offers what EVE does already but better (yes, even if those different facets are spread across several different games). I doubt EVE will ever truly die - SWG is practically dead but still has plently of subscribers. I just mean that after the competition is released subscriber influx will wane along with the natural decay of current subscribers means a drop in the playerbase. By how far it drops we'll have to see, but if EVE was ever going to 'die' any time soon it'll be to those new MMOs coming out. --------- CLICK HERE to see how to keep an idiot busy
Tek'a Rain Gallente Isis Technologies	Posted - 2007.06.01 19:47:00 - [61] no matter what, if things go pearshaped I hope loving devs will sneak us out the server-side code that will allow clever folks to make their own eve servers.
General Apocalypse Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.06.01 20:00:00 - [62] WEll if we don't do something radical in 15 years global warming and the economic crisis caused by lack of oil will be the end of EVE , even thou we can now make oil out of junk global warming will still kill EVE. On shirt term ppl that are worried about 0.0 being taken over by some alliance can relax , remember what happend to m0o ? In this case proly the Jove will invade and/or outposts will become easy to destroy (1M plutonium anyone ) EVE will never fade , i for one hope that but the recent nerf bat makes me feel quite stupid tbh , TomB does sometimes stupid nerfs and Nathaniel has to fix them . Dear TomB we're just gonna get cpu implants and keep our EANM , besides more ppl use active over pasive Thank You SkyFlyer
Iyanah Minmatar Mining Munitions and Mayhem R i s e	Posted - 2007.06.01 20:04:00 - [63] Originally by: Archeausz the question is in the title... A few more years ? 5 years... What really ? Depends on the revealations 2 Id expect, but anyone have a estimate for how long you think it will live on to ? the same length of time that any MMO is expected to run for: as long as it still makes money. apparently there are like another 10 years worth of content ideas already in development (or at least on the drawing board) right down to full planetary interaction and all that jazz. but one of two things will determine the end of eve: -not enough people are paying for the game to make the running of the servers viable. -the world explodes. ========================================== Iy please remember: I AM a sarcastic ******* and nothing i say has ever represented the thoughts or feelings of my corp, alliance, or anyone really. read
Berand Shadow Of The Light R i s e	Posted - 2007.06.01 20:12:00 - [64] I don't think Eve will succumb to competing MMOs, as others have suggested. Eve is virtually unique in the MMO world, as far as I've seen, in that there is actual risk involved in playing. Sure, it has its share of grinds, but the underlying philosophy to everything in the game, from ships to modules to outposts, is that you can loose it to other players. MMOs from the huge game companies will virtually guaranteed, never have a system that involves significant loss. Because a huge portion of the roving masses of gamers (especially the younger crowed) don't LIKE to loose things. These masses of players will inevitably be appalled at the idea of spending millions and billions of isk on ships and modules, then loosing them in the blink of one mistake to another player, who then takes all the spoils. I imagine your average WoW die-hard would cry at the idea of spending 30 billion isk and months of hard work building a permanent outpost... then loosing it in combat to rivals who kick you out and move in to your former home. Now, I'm not saying I like loosing. Who does? What I like, however, is the fact that everything you gain actually has value to it simply because of the fact that another player can come take it away from you. I don't think this will ever appeal to the mass gaming market (I'm talking WoW-level masses). But it damn well appeals to me, and I'm obviously not the only one. In my opinion, the only way Eve will kill itself is if they start going away from this system of loss and gain in order to appeal to the masses of players who never want significant setbacks. As long as CCP doesn't steer it in that direction, I highly doubt you'll see another MMO come up that can offer an alternative that surpasses what Eve has. New ones, especially from the big companies like Blizzard, are going to appeal to the huge masses, because that's where the massive money is. Sure, other MMOs like WoW may cause the player base to wane at times, as gamers with broader tastes then I go to play them, but what Eve offers will always appeal to some. Berand
Opium Minmatar Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.01 20:31:00 - [65] 1500 ppl at peak time if that int he beggining,, a couple hundred on beta.. it was alive then i wouldnt care if it went back to that, and itd still be a great game. itll end when u stop playing and stop thinking about it.
Veest FinFleet	Posted - 2007.06.01 20:43:00 - [66] Funnily enough, I asked Oveur at the Copenhagen Gankaton how much longevity he thought that Eve had the potential for. His reply... '25 Years' Just think of how many of us will be close to pension age if we are still playing!!!! And for all those of you out there already claiming your pension, make sure that i'm in your will to get your stuff :)
SiJira	Posted - 2007.06.02 01:48:00 - [67] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Tecam Hund If I am not mistaken the code was already partially changed some time ago. Yes partially. But I'd imagine at some point in time, the EVE code will be such a monster, it would be more costly to modify it than to start fresh, and migrate everyone's characters & assets to a new "game" That's what I would consider EVE 2... Eventually the game would need to move to totally new software & hardware infrastucture... I'd imagine this process would take more than a 24 hour downtime, etc... I suppose its a matter of semantics as to whether that could be considered EVE 2 or not. It could simply be presented as the next "expansion pack", in which case in what way can it be said that EVE has died? Its a bit like Trigger's Broom- he's used the same broom for 25 years, and never needed a new one once. Of course it's had 6 new handles and 12 new brush heads......... The real test will be if CCP were to charge for it, in my mind. If its free software, with the same price subscription, has migrated characters, and is the only currently running version of EVE, I think I'd be hard pushed to describe it as a sequel. yea so eve will just keep on evolving and thats the point ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Wendat Huron Lupus Industries	Posted - 2007.06.02 02:51:00 - [68] Originally by: General Apocalypse ...On shirt term ppl that are worried about 0.0 being taken over by some alliance can relax , remember what happend to m0o ? Actually no, whatever did happen to M0o?
SiJira	Posted - 2007.06.02 03:08:00 - [69] Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: General Apocalypse ...On shirt term ppl that are worried about 0.0 being taken over by some alliance can relax , remember what happend to m0o ? Actually no, whatever did happen to M0o? didnt they become bob? ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Wendat Huron Lupus Industries	Posted - 2007.06.02 03:11:00 - [70] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: General Apocalypse ...On shirt term ppl that are worried about 0.0 being taken over by some alliance can relax , remember what happend to m0o ? Actually no, whatever did happen to M0o? didnt they become bob? That was my thinking too so what point is he trying to make?
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2007.06.02 03:38:00 - [71] Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: General Apocalypse ...On shirt term ppl that are worried about 0.0 being taken over by some alliance can relax , remember what happend to m0o ? Actually no, whatever did happen to M0o? didnt they become bob? That was my thinking too so what point is he trying to make? BoB will become mOo once more and the cycle will be complete.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.06.02 04:10:00 - [72] Originally by: Tecam Hund Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Wendat Huron Originally by: General Apocalypse ...On shirt term ppl that are worried about 0.0 being taken over by some alliance can relax , remember what happend to m0o ? Actually no, whatever did happen to M0o? didnt they become bob? That was my thinking too so what point is he trying to make? BoB will become mOo once more and the cycle will be complete. Actually, they'll evolve into BoOm.
rackhard	Posted - 2007.06.02 04:12:00 - [73] EvE's end will be determined on REV 2. With other space games coming out with better graphics and new code REV 2 needs to be awesome. To keep players playing. or they will simply go somewhere else. They deff need to fix the lagg that their logs never seem to show. I say another year at best.
Gee Lok	Posted - 2007.06.02 04:13:00 - [74] CCP have done some really smart things when it comes to eve. ● They have had the courage to give players almost total control over how they play the game. Unlike other games where people are restricted to a few training paths. ● They have made the game so that new players are competitive. ● They have made the game in a way that pvp doesn't just involve the fight itself, but it also involves logistics, preperation and positioning. ● They allow players to take on unprecidented levels of risk, when you die, or are scammed you really loose a lot. ● They give the players the ability to make the content instead of scripting everything. ● They allow the players to control the market. ● They provide diverse options for playstyle, from pirating, 0.0 pvp, mining, missioning, industry, helping noobs, and trade. Anyhoo, I think there are two threats to the long term stability of eve. Firstly capital ships. In two or three years time there will be a lot of players trained up for capitals, and they may very well dominate the game. God knows how they will be used in future, but everyone flying around in dreads and carriers would be bad for eve in my opinion. Secondly, the bob empire. If bob ends up controlling all of 0.0 then that would also be bad for eve. Not that it is bob's fault. I really believe that diversity in 0.0 is a good thing, and that something should be done to ensure diversity in 0.0. That may involve making it harder to hold lots of systems, or it may involve introducing several hundred or thousand more systems.
Edward Slain Hell's Horsemen Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.02 04:39:00 - [75] Dont worry about BoB controlling all of 0.0. Once they start to get close to it, there will be a civil war. Its inevitable, a few corps will build up a power block within the alliance and try to take on the rest. If CCP continues to upgrade the graphics and source code, there is no reason for Eve to end, along with all the diversity available in this game. I for one havent had more fun in another game.
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.02 05:36:00 - [76] Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 02/06/2007 05:34:43 Actually, what would be the best for eve is people from bob actually spliting from their own accord, just in order to get more PvP out of eve. That would be fun.
Marcus Starr FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.02 05:57:00 - [77] all of u mek valid points, but mines still the only one thats write Band of Brothers 2 Stolen Footage
Secy	Posted - 2007.06.02 06:13:00 - [78] I would think this game has another 3-4 years in it. That being said there are MMOs on the horizon that I think could hurt the playerbase. Age of Conan, Darkfall, and Fallen Earth. Infinity might but from what I have read that game is reallllly far off. Star Trek looks like a pile of ass but I am sure it will take a some people away just because its Star Trek.
ThaMa Gebir Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.02 08:51:00 - [79] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 01/06/2007 18:23:48 Originally by: Tecam Hund Originally by: SiJira Originally by: DarkMatter I'm going to say around 2011 EVE will be gone... And replaced by EVE2. The outdated code simply cannot last that long, especially if Infinity takes off and does well... EVE's survival probably depends as much on it's competition as it does on CCP... its code can be completely changed - while still keeping the infrastructure built up from the ground If I am not mistaken the code was already partially changed some time ago. Yes partially. But I'd imagine at some point in time, the EVE code will be such a monster, it would be more costly to modify it than to start fresh, and migrate everyone's characters & assets to a new "game" That's what I would consider EVE 2... Eventually the game would need to move to totally new software & hardware infrastucture... I'd imagine this process would take more than a 24 hour downtime, etc... I suppose its a matter of semantics as to whether that could be considered EVE 2 or not. It could simply be presented as the next "expansion pack", in which case in what way can it be said that EVE has died? Its a bit like Trigger's Broom- he's used the same broom for 25 years, and never needed a new one once. Of course it's had 6 new handles and 12 new brush heads......... The real test will be if CCP were to charge for it, in my mind. If its free software, with the same price subscription, has migrated characters, and is the only currently running version of EVE, I think I'd be hard pushed to describe it as a sequel. Triggers broom is the perfect analogy (sp?) Made me giggle. ---------------------------- Confirmed heaviest member of RDEX........ Hah, no more hijacks here.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.06.02 09:01:00 - [80] FOREVER *****ES - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Kidd Chaos Gallente The Blackstone Group Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.06.02 09:58:00 - [81] 2012
SiJira	Posted - 2007.06.02 10:06:00 - [82] Originally by: Amarria Black Actually, they'll evolve into BoOm. you win eve ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.03 09:06:00 - [83] Eve has lost its momentum in terms of growth. Despite all the hoopla surrounding Revelations (the trailer, the reviews), there was nil growth since December 2006. Eve peaked in January 2007 at 34,000 on-line players, and has never broken that record since. Compare this to the year before. Between September 2005 and April 2006 Eve grew about 40% (from 15,000 to 25,000 on-line players on peak moments). In June/July 2006 the number of on-line players was still the same as in April 2006 (so the summer softness had a very limited effect). Of course in January CCP came clean on the cheating of T20 and BoB and there were a lot of players who alledged they would quit. Apparently quite a few did, as it stunted Eve's growth. Now with the new CCP problems, and with the same arrogant stance (note Kieron's remarks, inviting people to leave if they don't like the way CCP handles things) and with the threat of lawsuits against ordinary players, something similar may happen: this week's numbers are 10% lower than last week's, maybe people are beginning to tune out in droves as CCP doesn't care and the endgame is known. There is a small seasonality effect in this 10%, but this did not happen last year, when the summer decline was much much smaller. There is beauty in decay, if you are willing to see it.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.06.03 09:17:00 - [84] Originally by: Darkstar BP Eve has lost its momentum in terms of growth. Despite all the hoopla surrounding Revelations (the trailer, the reviews), there was nil growth since December 2006. Eve peaked in January 2007 at 34,000 on-line players, and has never broken that record since. Compare this to the year before. Between September 2005 and April 2006 Eve grew about 40% (from 15,000 to 25,000 on-line players on peak moments). In June/July 2006 the number of on-line players was still the same as in April 2006 (so the summer softness had a very limited effect). Of course in January CCP came clean on the cheating of T20 and BoB and there were a lot of players who alledged they would quit. Apparently quite a few did, as it stunted Eve's growth. Now with the new CCP problems, and with the same arrogant stance (note Kieron's remarks, inviting people to leave if they don't like the way CCP handles things) and with the threat of lawsuits against ordinary players, something similar may happen: this week's numbers are 10% lower than last week's, maybe people are beginning to tune out in droves as CCP doesn't care and the endgame is known. There is a small seasonality effect in this 10%, but this did not happen last year, when the summer decline was much much smaller. There is beauty in decay, if you are willing to see it. You're analyzing a long-term trend with short-term numbers. Some of it's the summer slump. Some of it could be due to pure real-world economics. Some of it could be due to measures taken against macro ops and isk-sellers. I'm not saying that no one is quitting in frustration; merely that we don't know if this is a minor period of stagnation and a tiny blip of decline, or the heralding of a great mass exodus.
Xedrik Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.03 09:40:00 - [85] Edited by: Xedrik on 03/06/2007 09:40:11 In my personal opinion about the title and content of EVE-Online; it has a huge potential. Theoretically the customer base could easily grow ten- or even hundred-folded, considering the fact that science fiction and space games are a very popular. However, with EVE-Online being built around one huge server cluster, Tranquility, this growth is severely hampered. Also we're talking about a game that is managed and run by CCP. This is where I fail to see how it could, in reality, reach these numbers. With the seemingly never-ending increase in mistrust for CCP, EVE-Online is already dying. This has nothing to do with the title itself nor the content, because it's brilliant (at least I'll have to give CCP credit for that). I wouldn't be surprised if CCP abandon ship within 1 year from now, that is if they continue to behave and handle issues as badly as they have done in the past. So to sum it up: EVE-Online as a product, is worth alot and have much more to give. But with the current state of the company owning and running it, it will not prevail long enough to prove it.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.06.03 10:09:00 - [86] I give Eve 2 years until it stops pulling in any appreciable amount of new blood, and 3 years after that until its no longer profitable to run the servers. 5 years, barring unforeseen circumstances (another t20 scandal, confirmed cheating by the devs, etc). Some things that might also hurry this up is the network problems that they've been having lately. Spend 2-3 months with a horrible network, and you're likely to see your subscriber base dwindle. In fact, I'd lay better than even money that half the people that have left Eve in the last month have been over the network problems. The other half? The Goonies and Dianaboilc's bullcrap. Liang Originally by: Dianabolic, of BOB, referring to MSN the fact that many of us speak to the devs / gm's / employees of CCP on a regular basis as friends is already common knoweldge?
James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.06.03 11:22:00 - [87] I'm probably about 1 more scandal away from setting a long skill, canceling my account and then seeing if I care in month's time. Actually I'm almost about there now due to the stupid game mechanics (Titans).
Manny Tanato Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.03 12:13:00 - [88] Originally by: Darkstar BP ... and with the same arrogant stance (note Kieron's remarks, inviting people to leave if they don't like the way CCP handles things) ... I totally agree. I have no idea what the social mores in Iceland is like, but I was shocked that a representative of any commercial entity was allowed to talk to its customer base in this manner. I can think of 10 seperate occasions where people have lost their jobs over much lesser transgressions. This sort of institutional arrogance absolutely will destroy the company if left to fester. The moment you start thinking that your customers' money is unworthy of your own time and efforts, well, that's the end. No one in their right mind who recieved such a blatant slap on the face would stay and continue putting money into your pocket. I for one have always had the nagging feeling that CCP censors its customers, and that we, the people who pay for this product have too little means of discourse should something go wrong. CCP's recent actions and stance have reinforced my view. CCP really needs some internal policing and some checks and balances. Either they administer their own bitter pill, or the nature of the free global market will punish them severly. -=[ I huff and I puff and nothing falls... ]=-
Sasakisan	Posted - 2007.06.03 13:39:00 - [89] This game is designed to be harsh, played on one shard, and appeal to a niche market. I feel that this game design will always appeal to enough people to keep the game going. Since it is aimed at a niche market, though, I am not sure how much growth is possible. Another question is what can the game company do to grow its space game franchise and maximize its profits. As other MMOs show, games with different types of servers (RP, PVP, PVE, etc.), instanced content, moderate death penalties, and mechanics in place to prevent scamming attract a lot of customers. The game company could develop a second MMO offering, separate from and in addition to their current space game. This second MMO could be designed with mass market appeal in mind to really maximize the return the game company gets on its intellectual property.
Gumpy Nighthawk Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.03 13:58:00 - [90] Well eve better not die in the coming 230 days, because after that i'll finally be able to use my dread.
Rachmat Ardiyanto The Raging Armada Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.06.13 17:30:00 - [91] Originally by: Tecam Hund Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn ... A 10 year plan mentioned by CCP before, and judging by how late the patches usually are the plans will stretch on for decades. .... whats this 10 year plan mentioned by CCP? any link for info?
smashsmash	Posted - 2007.06.13 17:57:00 - [92] i think it is more a question about when will humans manage to kill themselves from the face of the planet.
Zilkin Amarr adeptus gattacus Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.06.13 18:39:00 - [93] I have been playing many MMO¦s and there are always people saying that this game will die when game x or y is released... Is there actually single MMO that has died because release of another ? because I sure don¦t know of any. I think we can pretty safely say EVE is gonna last 10 years at least. Just look at EQ, UO, etc.
Igus Green Gecko Inc. deadspace society	Posted - 2007.06.13 19:10:00 - [94] Eve has nothing to worry about for at least the next few years. After that, who knows. The reason for this is there is almost 0 competition out there. Once a game studio develops a game that is comparable, this could change. Also by that time Eve will be an old dinosaur, outdated by new innovations in the gaming industry. -- snip Your signature exceeds the maximum filesize (24,000bytes) and also the signature dimensions 400x120 pixels -TheDagda ([email protected])
John McFly Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.13 19:12:00 - [95] Quote: How long is EVE expected to live for ? When BoB wins, the game will be over.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.06.13 22:40:00 - [96] Originally by: Igus Eve has nothing to worry about for at least the next few years. After that, who knows. The reason for this is there is almost 0 competition out there. Once a game studio develops a game that is comparable, this could change. Also by that time Eve will be an old dinosaur, outdated by new innovations in the gaming industry. i suppose you havent heard of rev 2.0 ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Kyreax Deepspace Exploration Biscuit Repair Associates	Posted - 2007.06.13 22:50:00 - [97] 42. --------------------------- My big fat Pink-proof signature.

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