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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: Cao Cao on 11/01/2004 02:37:42
We patrolled up and down Venal today, the NVA finally showed sign of life, crawled out of empire space, with a fleet that outnumbered ours by about 2:1. They came to within 2 jumps of us and.... LOGGED OFF! 9 hours later the Forsaken Empire still has unfettered control of Venal.
By these actions the NVA has abdicated its claim to Venal and now can no longer be said to control any territory. I feel sorry for them -- not having any test!cles and all.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:34:00 -
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Wrong forum & you're full of crap 
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:36:00 -
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Outnumbering the enemy means diddly squat if they're camping the jump-in point.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:36:00 -
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Sitting alone with up to 45 of them in EC-P8R was fun. Moving with 5 SI and 4 TunDraGon behind them all the time and then finally entering their system with 15 of them on but at no gate quite dissapointing.
Now I am going to UMI-KK and jerking off while looking at the FE fleet.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:42:00 -
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Edited by: Cao Cao on 11/01/2004 02:45:59
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Wrong forum & you're full of crap
What, wrong forum? Meaning you don't want the general EVE population to understand how cowardly you guys are?
What, full of crap? You mean that you guys having 45+ pilots in EC, then add another 8 or 9 Celestial Apocalypse in MSHD, and you can't come tussle with our 30 ships locking down Venal?
Man you guys really are pathetic. pa-thet-ic. Nope, you don't "control" Venal nor do you control any territory. See you in Lonetrek cuz thats about the only place you babies will "control." Sentry guns and CONCORD will protect you, don't worry!
EDIT: while your "warriors" are stuck in KQK1, we've been ravaging your mining and hauling parties up in Venal. LOL... 5k zydrine 2.5k megacyte and 27% cargo expanders captured..... 
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Cassiopia Phaedra
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:44:00 -
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No sir, your WHINING is pathetic. Go do agent missions or something.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.11 02:52:00 -
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Cassiopia,
try posting with your main for a change huun. Your cowardice even leaks over onto the forums. How sad.
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scouting
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:05:00 -
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Cao Cao the forum clown is acting all tough...hilarious
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:24:00 -
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Firstly: wrong forum. Stuff like this belongs in the corporations forum, as you very well know.
Secondly, who cares.
Thirdly, why are you bothering to make the fact public? If they don't control Venal, and you know they don't, job done. No reason at all for you to come bragging, is there? Unless, of course, you were just trying to score some propaganda points. But there'd be no point in that, because you've already won...
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:24:00 -
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Scouting are you quoting Nell in your signatures or what? 
Convert Stations
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Xelios on 11/01/2004 03:29:07
I love these "My internet c.ck is bigger than yours" posts :D
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.01.11 03:31:00 -
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I'm not really familiar with whats going on in that part of space. Is it true that the NVA left Venal?
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:03:00 -
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I'm not really familiar with whats going on in that part of space. Is it true that the NVA left Venal?
Dunno...easiest way to tell:
Fly to Venal in a frigate and see who shoot you.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Toulak
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:06:00 -
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Fly to Venal in a frigate and see who shoot you.
Prolly no one at the current point in time, not a lot of people in and around venal. All doing agent missions in empire like the other 99% of corps in eve. 
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:11:00 -
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Edited by: Bosie on 11/01/2004 04:12:59
I have no love for rates, but this does deserve to be in the general forum. This is general knowledge and as we don't have an alliance news forum this is a good place to post about it. I also hear that the NVA is on the brink of civil war...
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/
http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:14:00 -
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I'm not really familiar with whats going on in that part of space. Is it true that the NVA left Venal?
Dunno...easiest way to tell:
Fly to Venal in a frigate and see who shoot you.
I spent two days in Venal in a frig and was only threatend by an Indy hauling on the second day, gotta love them NVA patrols.
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/
http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:24:00 -
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Cao Cao, it is indeed the wrong forum id say too... take to the corp or crim forum... nobody wants to hear ur continues NVA bashing... Good Job, but keep in there...
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:30:00 -
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I can offer some potential explanation for todays events.
Sometime during this afternoon while I was out, Oberon Inc, CDI, and some northern Venal allies decided to boot Jericho Fraction from the alliance and abandon the NVA charter, while they reformed a new military structure they are terming NVE (New Venal Empire).
A number of Jericho's corporate allies were less than impressed by the move, and may have opted not to defend this new "imperial structure".
I don't know who the "emperor" is.
All NVA communications channels have been ended by Cyberdyne Industries (CDI).
And thats about it.
Confusing situation, but to tell you truth chaps, we are well out of it.
Whoever is fighting for Venal now sure isn't the NVA.
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:38:00 -
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Confusing situation, but to tell you truth chaps, we are well out of it.
Whoever is fighting for Venal now sure isn't the NVA.
Does that mean the NVA is over, or just your (as in Jericho) interests in that region?
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/
http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:40:00 -
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Bah...that's what I get for making a lame joke.
Honest answer as far as I'm concerned and speaking for myself only:
Venal is contested space.
Neither NVA nor FE have an official spokesperson at the moment, to my knowledge, to state their alliance's official stance and intentions. Or at least I've haven't been able to identify a single individual for either of alliance.
There are no independant information sources in the area to corroborate any information presented. All information concerning the situation comes from people who are directly involved on one side or another so reports can be skewed.
Regardless of who actually controls Venal and for how long they maintain control, it's pretty safe to assume you'll get shot by someone if encountered regardless of whether or not you're involved on either side.
So the safest course of action atm is cancel any hotel reservations you may have in Venal or surrounding regions, pop some popcorn and tune in to Eve's version of "CNN meets The National Inquirer". Aka EVE Corporations, Factions and Organizations HQ
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Sally
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:43:00 -
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I can offer some potential explanation for todays events.
Sometime during this afternoon while I was out, Oberon Inc, CDI, and some northern Venal allies decided to boot Jericho Fraction from the alliance and abandon the NVA charter, while they reformed a new military structure they are terming NVE (New Venal Empire).
A number of Jericho's corporate allies were less than impressed by the move, and may have opted not to defend this new "imperial structure".
I don't know who the "emperor" is.
All NVA communications channels have been ended by Cyberdyne Industries (CDI).
And thats about it.
Confusing situation, but to tell you truth chaps, we are well out of it.
Whoever is fighting for Venal now sure isn't the NVA.
Hehehe. The names keep changing quite a lot. Whoever was 2 jumps away from UMI-KK with around 45~ ships and logged off 30~ of them should rename the new "alliance" to "FSAPTLOTAQSTNKHAAWSTWSBMI": Fat scared asses pulling the log off trick and quoting Sun Tzu, not knowing him at all, wasting Sally's time who should be mining instead.
Or just Not Venal Alliance .
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Sally on 11/01/2004 04:49:02
Jash, controlling a region is hardly something which goes along with EVE.
The FE force logged off holding the only entry to Venal after going to NVA's (or whatever) remaing fleet.
Unlike in DAoC FE was not able to buy gate / station defenses or able to hire some NPC police for there.
The game is screwed up now in regards of controlling space. Basicly it's about juicy dots and people being too scared to lose their ships.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 04:48:00 -
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Confusing situation, but to tell you truth chaps, we are well out of it.
Whoever is fighting for Venal now sure isn't the NVA.
Does that mean the NVA is over, or just your (as in Jericho) interests in that region?
Bosie.
To the best of my knowledge, NVA name has been dropped, and there is a new alliance of northern Venal mining corps and combat support called NVE (New Venal Empire).
Ideologically, this alliance is described in the Eve Guardian article by Halseth Durn.
It seems ambivilent on the pirate issue, and thus its somewhat confusing that they are still fighting FE at all.
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XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.01.11 05:20:00 -
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It seems ambivilent on the pirate issue, and thus its somewhat confusing that they are still fighting FE at all.
Actually they weren't fighting us, hitting the Exit Game button isn't considered as an agressive act yet.
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Stoop
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Posted - 2004.01.11 05:24:00 -
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You do realize that some people do require sleep and it was nearing 2 a.m. gmt?
Some people do log out of the game at times other than 11:00gmt - 12:00gmt.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.11 05:26:00 -
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You do realize that some people do require sleep and it was nearing 2 a.m. gmt?
Some people do log out of the game at times other than 11:00gmt - 12:00gmt.
I was personally up in Venal for over 9 hours. Lets not talk about how it is too late when they slowly massed and tiptoed jump by jump out toward UMI-KK ... then apparently got cold feet at the very last moment.
It wasn't because it was late --- they are just cowards. Again, we were there for over 9 hours.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.11 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: Sally on 11/01/2004 04:49:02
Jash, controlling a region is hardly something which goes along with EVE.
The FE force logged off holding the only entry to Venal after going to NVA's (or whatever) remaing fleet.
Unlike in DAoC FE was not able to buy gate / station defenses or able to hire some NPC police for there.
The game is screwed up now in regards of controlling space. Basicly it's about juicy dots and people being too scared to lose their ships.
No comment on the last part. I'm wearing my neutral hat for the day 
Without a means to cement control of a region, there's no Official means to declare a region NVA or NVE or OPP. But people still have to have some criteria. And to each his own.
The question "To Whom Does Venal Now Belong" won't and can't be answered today, not for me at least. Forsaken Empire hasn't really said they even want to keep the territory. Doesn't matter much if you can or can't control access to a region if you don't actually want to keep it.
Next question would be "Is there even an NVA anymore?". Information is sketchy as best, with enough spin in the worst cases to make Taz dizzy. Best guess based on what's being said is the NVA is fractured, with the final outcome uncertain. Will there be a New New Venal Alliance, consisting of the old guard NVA against the NVE? Will there be a reconciliation? Too early to tell. But if there is no NVA, the point is moot and Venal belongs to whoever decides to claim it and enforce that claim.
Final question would be "If there's an NVA, will they fight for Venal?". Today's...er, whatever it was is irrelevant. Wars aren't normally decided in a day.
In absence of an actual means to control access to a region, it comes down to organization and desire. Both are unclear. Take Viceroy out, get him a new suit and make him the official spokesman of the FE. Then have him say "We're keeping it". Then until some resurgent NNVA comes and takes it from you, I'll consider it yours
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Stoop
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Posted - 2004.01.11 05:32:00 -
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I was personally up in Venal for over 9 hours.
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Once again, not everyone can devote this much time to the game.
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XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.01.11 05:43:00 -
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Stoop, do you really think they got a 40(?) men fleet together, went all the way up from lonetrek... and got tired on the way, so that they had to log off one jump away?
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2004.01.11 06:09:00 -
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Stoop, do you really think they got a 40(?) men fleet together, went all the way up from lonetrek... and got tired on the way, so that they had to log off one jump away?
You want some honesty? Here it is. We were too disorganized to respond quickly. Several people were playing quite a bit later than they really wanted to. It took us forever to get together and then wait in a big blob while other stragglers joined the fleet. You had the initiative, we were reacting. And when two or three people logged because of the time, a lot of other people said, "Screw it. All that's going to happen is two big fleets dancing. Might as well call it a night."
Seriously, don't you guys feel a little stupid playing this, "My virtual ***** is larger than yours," game?
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Stoop
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Posted - 2004.01.11 06:09:00 -
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Okay I was on the TS server when they decided this. I think its pretty well known amongst the FE guys that many of the Venal corps are primarily UK based. What would you do if half of your forces were tired and ready to go to sleep? You'd probably realize at that point that it was not a good idea to continue with the plan, and call it a night.
Maybe it does not happen for you, but sometimes real life does get in the way of a video game.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.11 08:03:00 -
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Seriously, don't you guys feel a little stupid playing this, "My virtual ***** is larger than yours," game?
Hmm, I don't know what a virtual ***** is, but I'm pretty sure my real life ***** is a good deal larger than yours.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2004.01.11 08:46:00 -
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Seriously, don't you guys feel a little stupid playing this, "My virtual ***** is larger than yours," game?
Hmm, I don't know what a virtual ***** is, but I'm pretty sure my real life ***** is a good deal larger than yours.
Tell me you did not just write that. After you wrote it, did you clap your hands together and smile at your own cleverness? People with no sense of humor generally think they're terribly witty, so I assume you're no different.
If there was an award for the most pathetic attempt at smackdown, this would definitely be a gold medal finalist.
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Ih8 Jade
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Posted - 2004.01.11 08:53:00 -
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Yes Cao Cao you are right, NVA no longer owns Venal, the self proclaimed leader and head whiner 'Jade' decide it was no longer worth fighting for.
secure-nva channel read something along the lines of
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Jade Constantine > 'Venal is worthless, theres no money to be made.'
can you guess why it had to disband, and form again without Jericho Fraction ?
Cao Cao , if you want a fight, just wait a bit till the new crew gets organised, of course you can walk all over a region that has internal problems with head figures. |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 09:28:00 -
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Hurrah and Huzzah!
Its the first cowardly alt come to accuse us of falsehoods to justify the knife that Halseth Durn placed in the our backs.
That really didn't take very long.
The segment of chatlog is true.
But of course the secret is in the rest which is not reproduced.
This story will be repeated many times over the next few days, but the cut-down version first.
Mining corps in Venal have made a lot of isk from mining straggler asteroids away from the main belts. This is apparently not an exploit like the grid bug mining since the roids appear a long way from the belts themselves.
Consequentially, some corps that knew about these "straggler roids" have made a fortune in Venal while the Foresaken war has raged on.
While other corps (Jericho Fraction and the southern PB defensive corps) were not informed.
Anyhow,
Foresake Empire began an offensive that threatened these mining operations and the mining corps themselves began to demand NVA support to protect their operations.
We were told that Jericho should send ships to defend these corps and fight Foresaken Empire.
"Fine we said, but we need to have a way of making money to replace our losses, and since trade is dead, that means help finding mining locations"
Now, I don't think it was unreasonable to ask the corps making fat cash out of mining to help share the mineral wealth to fund their protectors.
But apparently it was.
Because when we asked the NVA miners for this help we were told that the price of mining info would be a 50% tax on all the ore we mined.
Thats right chaps,
JF sends ships to support NVA mining corps (mining for entirely private profit) And in exchange we would be allowed to mine ourselfs at the charge of half of our ore for the pleasure of protecting these operations.
Well, I talked to my corp and we concluded that Venal was therefore worth nothing to us.
And that is the story of the quote mr alt.
Shall we move to the next one?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.11 09:31:00 -
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Any disenchanted NVA military corporations are happy to apply to the Stain Alliance
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
PAPA
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Posted - 2004.01.11 09:39:00 -
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The big prob NVA has is jade! or should i say her mouth,she is a forum warrior.
so m,dear u have no one 2 blame but urself
p.s dont stop posting ur sooooooo funny [)
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Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2004.01.11 09:40:00 -
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Now who didn't see this coming?
/me goes send Cao Cao a nice case of Sake.
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On the edge of the world once more the day slants.
The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 09:44:00 -
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The big prob NVA has is jade! or should i say her mouth,she is a forum warrior.
o m,dear u have no one 2 blame but urself
p.s dont stop posting ur sooooooo funny [)
Come on, if you are going to make up a forum alt then at least come with a fragment of chatlog to smear me with!
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.01.11 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: KIAHicks on 11/01/2004 11:01:52
In response to why we're still fighting FE. Simple, their pirates, they want venal, we don't want them to have venal.
As to why we didn't engage last night, because we're not bleeding idiots. We learnt with BLADES, RONA-KIA and CELEST that jumping into a camped jumpin point even with the 1 minute load in timer, still means you will lose battleships. Also we KNOW UMI-KK is notorious for buggy gates, much like yulai.
Last time we had a fleet battle, half our fleet were stuck in the gate but still appeared in the system and died. We arn't going to let that happen again.
We will fight you on our terms not yours. Get used to it.
Why should we be the ones to start the engagment, maybe its time the FE jumped into our camped positions.
Why did people log? Simple, at 2am after been up to 5am the previous night we were tired. We knew that the fight wouldn't happen, it would be too big fleets, yet again sat looking at each other. So why should we stay logged on for another 2/3 hours till 5 in the morning just to fight you?
If you want to fight from now on, you can get up early or stay up late in your time zone and fight us during normal hours. I don't see why we should always be the ones that jump into your camped positions, and why we should be the ones who have to stay up late to engage you.
and the other thing I can't understand, is why everyone has to flame each other on a forum. I imagine the rest of eve are getting pretty sick of discussions saying:
we camped xyz for x hours and nothing happened, followed by 5-6 pages of name calling.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Lomex
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Posted - 2004.01.11 11:49:00 -
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Must be something in the Venal water that makes people nuts!
Funny, funny stuff though. Carry on.
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Chelsea rorec
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Posted - 2004.01.11 13:34:00 -
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ok here the truth for people who want to know.
Around 12 eve time a FE fleet moved up to umi-kk..NVA moved a fleet down to h-pa and torrinos
1am eve time nothing happened
2am eve time nothing happened
3 am eve time the NVA fleet got fedup with waiting a logged off.
3:30 am eve time FE moved up to h-pa
Basicly FE waiting and waited and waited for all the euro people to log off before they did anything.They didn't have the guts to attack when everbody was logged on.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.11 13:46:00 -
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moved to Corporation
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.01.11 14:22:00 -
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Well if a regular miner from Venal want's to do his stuff (mine) he can't do that right now, cos the territory is "under siege". Thus whoever calls Venal his home, they are not controlling it.
Claiming that you have to sleep, calling people names, and insulting them for "being pathethic for measuring *****es on internet" well, that just won't do, IMHO. Besides if they are geeks for playing games, wtf do you do mining there? It's even worse. Not like you have a REAL job you know.
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.01.11 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: DirtyHarry on 11/01/2004 15:06:26
Edited by: DirtyHarry on 11/01/2004 15:05:14
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Basicly FE waiting and waited and waited for all the euro people to log off before they did anything.They didn't have the guts to attack when everbody was logged on.
Thats right - we did not attack your big red dot for 2-3 hours, why shoud we, its OUR region!
Time for the NVA to make the first move rather than FE as always. We too have european players (myself included), we was also getting tired, so decided to attack you in the end. We did not know that your fleet was logging for the night, we thought it was to make us jump in and then you all log back on.
Have some guts to make the 1st move next time
Edit : btw, same thing happened this morning, myself and 5 other FE pilots in H-P, and 5-6 NVA pilots 2 jumps out, we had to bring the fight to you again, and pod a RONA pilot in his Dominix (3 mins before downtime aswell - priceless).
-Havo
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.01.11 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: KIAPieman on 11/01/2004 16:25:29
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Time for the NVA to make the first move rather than FE as always.
why??
why should we jump in on their terms.
please tell me.
i want to know
we will fight when WE want to.
so endeth the lesson
also we took great pleasure in ending gr3gs raven. i think that overshadows a dominix just a little.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.01.11 16:25:00 -
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wow you rock dirtywhoeveryouare..
ah well, gr3gs raven more than makes up for that domi 
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2004.01.11 17:09:00 -
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Thats OK, we can make another one with NVA's Mega and Zydrine looted from your indies.
BTW, Aint it past your bedtimes guys?
-Havo
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.01.11 17:11:00 -
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ok here the truth for people who want to know.
Around 12 eve time a FE fleet moved up to umi-kk..NVA moved a fleet down to h-pa and torrinos
1am eve time nothing happened
2am eve time nothing happened
3 am eve time the NVA fleet got fedup with waiting a logged off.
3:30 am eve time FE moved up to h-pa
Basicly FE waiting and waited and waited for all the euro people to log off before they did anything.They didn't have the guts to attack when everbody was logged on.
Sorry this is bull****. The UMI-KK fleet moved towards H-PA for the first time and NVA's main fleet has been still in EC-P8R at this time. Watching the map the guys in EC-P8R took then the opportunity to go north and since the H-PA guys were backing off (being outnumbered, trying to scatter FE's main fleet further more), FE's main fleet went back to UMI-KK waiting for the EC-P8R guys to come up.
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.01.11 17:14:00 -
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Actually we did jump into your "controlled system" (kqk)
and you logged off the majority of your force. sad because we even brought our camera man whom hopefully caught the great log off on film.
I think we should title it sex,lies,Cowardice.
Its a game fellas. And if you were wise you would have learned after the monthes of this conflict its always better to be with us than against us.
But who cares, I really dont, The NVE death toll should hit the roof with in the coming days and weeks, your pitiful excuse for a military is no longer the primary target.
You see our greatest success is that we are:
A. Not afraid of big red dots ona map.
B. Its only a game and we are the premier PvPers.
C. Our extenssive experiance in dealing with the NVA has more than prepared us to deal with the NVE.
D. We will always attack a jumpin point once we have an adequate force, which still is usually less than yours.
E. Our Empire voids itself of polotics and opts for a strong and powerful leadership, hense being an EMPIRE not a DEMOCRACY.
Now yes, Productive and Recreational Piracy is VERY legal in the FE, though it hasnt been practiced enforce recreationally in some time, and I like many others in the empire love to keep the title of pirate, because it symbolizes whom we are. A pirate is free, we do what we want, go where we want, mine where and what we want with out taxation or restriction, and frankly kill whomever we want.
Now i know the next post is going to be whats the differance between Productive Piracy and Recreational Piracy. well its very simple really.
- Productive Piracy: Is camping gates leading into our soverignty, to give the alarm of attack or to protect our resources.
[list=2]Recreational Piracy: though often not practiced these days, is simply kill and take what we wish from people to make a profit, there by excercising the freedom of 0.4 and below space.[/list=2]
Both are legal to us and if it stops potential undesirables from entering our space and blatently depleting our resources, well I see it as a huge beneficial asset.
Yes ninja miners do get through, and usually we dont waste our time hunting them down, but every day new strategies to stop them have been and will constantly be being developed.
Just wanted to clear those points up. Now back to every ones regularly scheduled wars, flaming, greifing, and smack talk.
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Posted - 2004.01.11 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: KIAPieman on 11/01/2004 16:25:29
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Time for the NVA to make the first move rather than FE as always.
why??
why should we jump in on their terms.
please tell me.
i want to know
we will fight when WE want to.
so endeth the lesson
also we took great pleasure in ending gr3gs raven. i think that overshadows a dominix just a little.
Sooooo I guess this means you dont want Venal then huh? Really wish you guys in the NVE would really make up your mind. I mean the only thing you guys have done together and organized was depose JF and thier leader Jade "Zepplin Lungs" Constantine, which we truely loved to see.
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.01.11 17:24:00 -
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So is this the 3rd or 4t thread CoCo the chimp... sorry champ? and Co have started about this?
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.01.11 17:37:00 -
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Sooooo I guess this means you dont want Venal then huh?
It was never anybodies, and it isn't yours. Players can't own anything but their ships and modules in Eve. Keep telling yourself otherwise if it makes you feel big...
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.01.11 17:58:00 -
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It was never anybodies, and it isn't yours. Players can't own anything but their ships and modules in Eve. Keep telling yourself otherwise if it makes you feel big...
I own all of eve, Im just keeping it free and open to all, Im such a nice guy arnt I.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.01.11 18:04:00 -
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I own all of eve, Im just keeping it free and open to all, Im such a nice guy arnt I.
Ironically, your claim is just as valid as the gonks from FE...
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PAPA
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Posted - 2004.01.12 09:21:00 -
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erm forum alt is this at me lol look at my in game info u will c im no alt 
im just sick 2 death of reading ur rubbish spin all the time M'DEAR
u say we have no right 2 claim any thing sept ship and mods, didnt the nva claim venal
if not get out, if so defend it
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.01.12 09:29:00 -
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u say we have no right 2 claim any thing sept ship and mods, didnt the nva claim venal
No, I said you cannot own space, which you can't. Try reading peoples posts properly before verbally vomitting all over them.
And yes the NVA claimed Venal. But they don't own it, as its not possible to own anything in Eve but your ships and mods. Is that clear now? Do you want me to type that in CAPS for you? Perhaps fetch an adult to help you reply?
Claim and own are two different words with two different meanings. I have posted a link to an online dictionary so you can look them up for yourself.
For stupid people
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.01.12 09:29:00 -
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Thats OK, we can make another one with NVA's Mega and Zydrine looted from your indies.
BTW, Aint it past your bedtimes guys?
hey dont forgett to build you a new apoc
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: KIAInkZ on 12/01/2004 10:19:33
btw Mr dirtyharry, how's your apoc? *chuckles*
thx for the extruded heat sink
you must thank your 2 wingmen for running away and leaving you to die haha
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Venkman
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:11:00 -
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Watching the map the guys in EC-P8R took then the opportunity to go north and since the H-PA guys were backing off (being outnumbered, trying to scatter FE's main fleet further more), FE's main fleet went back to UMI-KK waiting for the EC-P8R guys to come up.
OMG - you really do believe in the map, don't you?
Seriuosly - this seems to be a hard blow against the FE ego? A whole fleet logging, because they think you are just not worth the travel time and effort?
Venk
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:07:00 -
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Ba kills score is still way in KIA-Rs favour I take it?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
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Lara Janoz
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:41:00 -
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Thought a very minor detail and not importend. I thought it is funny to highlight this one. It is so minor, yet shows exactly the spin and twisting going on.
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All NVA communications channels have been ended by Cyberdyne Industries (CDI).
yet my log says :
[ 2004.01.10 22:21:15 ] (info) The Secure-NVA channel is now corp bound to Bladerunners, and is thus available only to corp members.
I hope you dont grow to be a bitter old woman jade, but its over, no level of spin or 6 post reply can change it.
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:53:00 -
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Arn't you all sick of the continued we own it, no you own it, no we own it kinda arguements? Unless you sit a large fleet at a choke point 24/7 you cannot own venal.
When your not on, or you only have a few on, everyone will go about their business, which as it happens is right at the time we want to play.
Likewise when we're not on you go about your business. The only times things become an issue are when we stay up late and overlap your playing times.
Make a big fleet by all means, but don't expect people to engage. Stargates are too buggy to risk it, frame rate drop hits some players very hard and basically theres no reason for us to attack. We could just finish playing at our normal time, go to bed and leave your fleet locking down venal whilst we sleep. Then when we wake up nice and refreshed and ready to play, your fleet is gone.
Works well for me :)
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:04:00 -
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Hicksy speaketh the truth.
We own venal After Downtime - 10pm FE own venal 10pm - Eraly morning. venal is empty Early morning to after downtime.
Maybe we should charter up a time share agreement ? :) ;)
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
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Blueblooded
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:25:00 -
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We patrolled up and down Venal today, the NVA finally showed sign of life,
Well, you ain't patrolling any more =D
Why go head on at a large invasion force when you could wait untill it breaks up 12 hrs later and take it down in smaller groups...
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