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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:07:00 -
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I know Toulak, and here is the sad thing. I told the total truth in that account but Halseth's goons and the pirate trollers don't care about anything but wrecking this thread since the argument has gone against them.
Its the same old same old.
And I just wish people would be banned from this forum for repeat senseless trolling of other peoples posts and threads.
JF Public Forum |
Beringe
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:11:00 -
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This is so dramatic.
I wonder if I could turn this into a news story without being flamed to cinders.
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"My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:18:00 -
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"I wonder if I could turn this into a news story without being flamed to cinders."
Without flames? No.
... Do it. :p
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:21:00 -
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Halseth you rid yourself of a great evil by doing what you did, and while our paths differ from yours, you did the right thing in a right way, the NVA loyalists will soon learn they are lost with out you.
As for Jade there is no NVA, youve been defeated, youve been slammed into the pages of Eve history, take waht ever honor and accomplishments you still have, and knock it off.
You got screwed in almost the same way you screwed TTI.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 11/01/2004 22:25:14
I hate this.
I hate the lies, the bull**** and the mo-fo's who are trying to discredit my corp.
We stand for what is right, we have fought for the NVA for months now and never asked for anything.
We NEVER wanted FE in and we made that plainly clear.
Shortly afterwards, we were NEVER contacted again from the NVA.
From our first steps within the NVA, RKK was helped financially by jericho. Jade is a friend, as is many of thier corp. She has never tried to lead RKK nor sway me to follow her path.
She doesn't desire ultimate power. If that was the case, then she could have split the NVA up a month ago when I called for a vote to make her ultimate leader of the NVA. Instead, she resigned as spokesperson for the NVA and declined the position. Hardly the methods of a megalomaniac.
I heard this evening that the TNA is considering making Reikoku KOS. This is simply unbelievable. We have shown no aggression towards the TNA and have simply pulled out.
We COULD have sold you all down the river, we chose to follow our morales as a GOOD corp who do nothing but fight pirates. It hardly sounds like "no hard feelings." when we are under that threat.
I feel disgusted by this whole ordeal.
A 14 year old with no political clue has taken control of TNA. I hope those you remain are all prepared to deal with that.
I wash my hands of the whole thing but understand this, I will NOT attack a TNA member unless fired upon.
P.S. Stavros: you would pick a 14 year old to idolise. Says everything about you really.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:25:00 -
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Chris Xen says.
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take what ever honor and accomplishments you still have, and knock it off.
I don't think so Chris.
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Halseth Durn on 11/01/2004 22:30:07
I got to roughly the middle of her second page, and then just said "screw-it". Skipped down where the important people who play this game (not the forum) started posting.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:29:00 -
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Doesn't surprise me at all that you can't answer the questions Halseth.
Not at all.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:29:00 -
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lol@KIA. I used to think of you as a vaguely intelligent corp. Not anymore.
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:31:00 -
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Quote:
Edited by: DB Preacher on 11/01/2004 22:25:14
I heard this evening that the TNA is considering making Reikoku KOS. This is simply unbelievable. We have shown no aggression towards the TNA and have simply pulled out.
We COULD have sold you all down the river, we chose to follow our morales as a GOOD corp who do nothing but fight pirates. It hardly sounds like "no hard feelings." when we are under that threat.
This is in no way true.
RKK are completely NAP with the new allaince.
There will be no KOS, and our position will not be changing. There are an incredible amount of rumours flying. We had been told that you guys were now camping at blockades with EPA. Again not true.
This sound like a case of someone attempting to play both sides against the middle.
We are NAP with RKK and will remain so.
Oberon Incorporated. |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:39:00 -
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We had been told that you guys were now camping at blockades with EPA. Again not true.
LOL
RKK wouldnt spit on EPA if they were on fire. Mainly because we would have put them on fire.
RKK will NEVER side with pirates.
We are a pirate hunting corp, simple as that.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:45:00 -
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I AM NOT SAYING WHO IS RIGHT, WRONG ETC ETC, OR PICKING ANY SIDES HERE OK.
What I find so amazing about this story, is just sitting back watching venal destroy itself and tear itself asunder time and again. Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it. You all are certainly a case study. Just imagine if you guys worked together for real.
From my vantagepoint, it would appear that the one true "value" that all those in venal have held most dear over the course of it's history, is that of backstabbing one another.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:47:00 -
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I AM NOT SAYING WHO IS RIGHT, WRONG ETC ETC, OR PICKING ANY SIDES HERE OK.
What I find so amazing about this story, is just sitting back watching venal destroy itself and tear itself asunder time and again. Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it. You all are certainly a case study. Just imagine if you guys worked together for real.
From my vantagepoint, it would appear that the one true "value" that all those in venal have held most dear over the course of it's history, is that of backstabbing one another.
No comment on what's currently happening...still got my neutral hat going
But look up the word 'venal'.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Artegg
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:50:00 -
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I AM NOT SAYING WHO IS RIGHT, WRONG ETC ETC, OR PICKING ANY SIDES HERE OK.
What I find so amazing about this story, is just sitting back watching venal destroy itself and tear itself asunder time and again. Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it. You all are certainly a case study. Just imagine if you guys worked together for real.
From my vantagepoint, it would appear that the one true "value" that all those in venal have held most dear over the course of it's history, is that of backstabbing one another.
You would thing but i have not seen the Venal crew work so well together as they have in the last 2 days 
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:54:00 -
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i asked all involved parties to refrain from flaiming the boards with these issues, and instead take it to a common discussion were all involved parties can talk. These threads doesnt solve anything, it just adds to the bad blood. So for the final time i PLEAD Jade, Halseth and everyone else PLEASE discuss this at another location under civilized forms.
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.11 22:56:00 -
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[But look up the word 'venal'.
Oh my.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:00:00 -
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i asked all involved parties to refrain from flaiming the boards with these issues, and instead take it to a common discussion were all involved parties can talk. These threads doesnt solve anything, it just adds to the bad blood. So for the final time i PLEAD Jade, Halseth and everyone else PLEASE discuss this at another location under civilized forms.
I hear you Raven, and I sympathise with your objective, and I will come and talk this over anywhere and anytime. A situation has been created where my corporation has been targetted and betrayed by allies and it needs resolving.
If you can make a meeting happen then fine.
What I cannot promise is not to respond to lies and nonsense spread about my corporation and my own actions.
I will have right to reply.
But that doesn't mean I am not prepared to listen.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: Beringe on 11/01/2004 23:03:45
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No comment on what's currently happening...still got my neutral hat going
But look up the word 'venal'.
Holy...
Whoever named that region must have had a prophetic moment.
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"My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:04:00 -
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By the way Beringe, if you want to do an interview I'd be happy to volunteer.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:10:00 -
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By the way Beringe, if you want to do an interview I'd be happy to volunteer.
I'll take you up on that, come monday.
Of course, I will also interview Halseth Durn for balance.
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"My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:17:00 -
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excellent!
Tell you what, if you really want some hilarity and hijinks ... put me and Halseth in a chat channel and lets have a open debate.
;)
JF Public Forum |
Beringe
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:18:00 -
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Heh, I respectfully reject that suggestion.
It would be a bugger to edit. 
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"My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |
Halo Jones
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Halo Jones on 11/01/2004 23:34:46
Edited for my lack of eloquence, unfortunately I do not have the prowess with words that many others posess.
There is an alliance in the Northern regions of space. It is similar in content to the alliance that existed last week. RKK have left of their own wishes and are setting up home in pure blind, and JF were not invited to join.
JF were not invited to join because of you, that has been made abundantly clear by a number of corporation leaders. Halseth simply posted the statement of this last evening, and you have chosen him for personal attacks since then.
Althought you and Halseth may not get on personally, make depise each other in fact for all I know, a new alliance has been created, one the member of JF are welcome to join, but you are not.
There is no issue that you are no longer wanted. Let the matter rest.
Oberon Incorporated. |
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Beringe on 11/01/2004 23:03:45
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No comment on what's currently happening...still got my neutral hat going
But look up the word 'venal'.
Holy...
Whoever named that region must have had a prophetic moment.
Would be like making a home in a region named 'Pasture' 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:28:00 -
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Debate's reveal the truth Halo, they reveal a lot about a situation (often an awful lot more than the people involved might wish).
You say the situation is over, but thats not really how these things are done.
Takes both sides to shake hands in a truce.
Some people in your alliance want this resolved as much as people in ours do.
Just because Oberon wants it all swept under the carpet does not draw a line under the issue.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.01.11 23:57:00 -
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hmmmm betrayers looking for excuses 
btw after watching the TNA fleet operating yesterday... erm... Run for your lives 
No frankly Halseth, you killed the nva by betrayal... Since u have no honor and no morality... why don't u merge with FE now ? Don't tell me u don't trust pirates and that they are backstabbers... Or maybe they have a higher morality than u...
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Rual Storge
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Posted - 2004.01.12 00:04:00 -
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Ok, I'm gonna step out of the dark in these forums and say my mind. The only 4 actualy threads I really took part in turned into a bloody mess of flame... I don't care if this happens again but as I can see Jade's four pos long post... I think I should put in my two cents.
I as Infinicorp Military Director fully support what Halseth has made here. And for Jade's endless manipulation of the masses with her never ending, and frankly I think needs to be cut off at this point, serpent tounge I feel the EVE community is getting a misdisplay of this entire alliance.
Halseth and Robeyone made this all happen, it wasn't so they could mine in safety as a very large number of Rona are pure PvP. It was so we could potect and enjoy the territory we claim without a single dision being done by simply stating "this is how it is" (people whine) or a vote that takes a week, which by then the situation has passed.
This system has been destroyed Jericho did not come with the alliance primarily because of Jade. Our war with FE was originaly fueled by Jade. The constant annoyance of 4 post essays that are comparable to reading war and peace, yep you got it Jade.
Jade has power that can't be argued, she knows how to use her words to sway the masses. I am here with a feeling of fighting on her terms as though I can be good with my words, I cannot master the manipulative serpant toung as she has.
TNA (or what we call it post contest) does not support piracy in anyway we aren't large stuffed animals with hearts for noses, and we aren't some buddies puppet.
We are however an organized force of pilots protecting what OUR territory and our own interests. We no longer operate under a slow forum system where players (not pilot) like Jade are able to seize power, but a system where we can deside in seconds if nessisary. We are the TNA (til name is improved on) and we are here in Venal. We will fight for Venal, and we will protect our own.
Jade, yes long ago you actualy had helped, but now you simply waste 1s and 0s in binary code that everyone in this thread has loaded without value.
-Rual Storge out
Rual Storge, Battlestars, CEO |
KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.01.12 00:06:00 -
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ok i feel compelled to post now. i wasnt going to because i think ill be told i have my nose burried up halseths butt by some partys.
Halseth is the person who posted the original message THAT IS ALL. as per jade did, the only power he holds is his opinion in a voting situation. stop trying to tell everyone that we are all on his leash. i notice we are getting the usual people jumping on the bandwagon of ranting away whilst not having a CLUE on what the real situation is. Halseth is one of those rare people you meet who is open about his ideas and feeling to ideas and i am proud to be able to fight along side him.
Halseth just close your ears now and chant STFU n00b out loud, then the nasty voices wll go away.
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Anna Heart
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Posted - 2004.01.12 00:22:00 -
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Well I'm gonna but in as I do from time to time...
But from as I've heard it from Rual, Venal DID NOT "backstab" anyone who was part of Venal. As I see it only one pilot from Jericho in Venal usualy. I have no problem with Jericho personaly in fact if the masses of Jericho came up and said "Hey guys lets do this!" and really put their war faces on I could see taking em back (not Jade, sorry but shes a <censored so the moderators don't have to>)
Basicly Venal said who's here fighting or supplying our cause?... who is not?... Just like layoffs you eigther worked hard enough to be in, or you go find yourself a new gig.
As for Venal turning on itself again and again, you'll find mostly a group of core corps have stood in most of the time while outside corps came in and out... Besides with the lack of consiquences of this game in time everyone alliance will be betrayed and mutanies will occur it's how the nature of this game is.
Heck that's life. you don't give you're neighbor your life savings info. Why? all the more reason to backstab you only on EVE you can't press a law suit.
InfiniCorp, Lunatic at Arms
When you think of picking a fight remember this, I've got a big gun, and the insanity to use it. |
XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.01.12 00:29:00 -
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