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dastommy79
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 16:37:00 -
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Maybe we should do a coordinated attack against bob itself. like 3-4 massive fleets in different station systems. Have IAC get all the bob titan pilots drunk the night before so they cant play or convince their bosses to make em work overtime during the op. Giving away your space is not fun
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Rochel Hakiri
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.04 16:41:00 -
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Ahhhaa that explain why Outbreak (who's againts BoB FYI), is fighting and ganking us. They only seem to steal targets of BoB, check their KB.

I would be mad ****ed if I we're BoB
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bystander
Lightning Fish
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Posted - 2007.06.04 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Gabba Its actually not such a bad idea, although it would take too long for it to work and would be.... extremely boring. I dont fight BoB myself, but if you compare them to the Roman empire (valid comparison imho), your better off using the fact that the space they control is very large their borders far apart. Fast roaming gangs to split up their forces and a cyno chain with dreads that can jump in and out, sort of guerilla tactics. Hit a POS and then move out fast, dont get into trenchwar fights with supercaps.
Ok im going back to mining now 
Surely they'll just do what the Romans did and let the locals just get on with it. Keep friendly locals in charge, tax people, take whatever resources you want and grant additional breaks to those prepared to fight alongside you.
The Romans weren't in charge of their Empire - they were far too dilute on the ground. They just saw off anyone else who claimed they were in charge.
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Altar Mei
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2007.06.04 17:09:00 -
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Post number 4860450923098521 about how to defeat bob. Sweet....
bob won't crumble like we've seen others, goons are a community outside and don't seem to mind loosing it all and trying again, RA... are RA. I never understood why people are so afraid to loose their stations, or why their so concerned about falling back to empire to rebuild. In fact being freed from your .0 assets should be quite liberating.
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Jotan Veer
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2007.06.04 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Altar Mei I never understood why people are so afraid to loose their stations, or why their so concerned about falling back to empire to rebuild.
Falling back to empire is a shock which inevitably brings underlying problems of your corp/alliance to the surface thus acting as a catalyst towards making people becoming fed up and leaving. This in turn can cause a chain reaction leading to more people leaving since "there is nothing to do here anymore".
Unless there is a strong leadership corps/alliances generally suffer from falling back.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Altar Mei Post number 4860450923098521 about how to defeat bob. Sweet....
bob won't crumble like we've seen others, goons are a community outside and don't seem to mind loosing it all and trying again, RA... are RA. I never understood why people are so afraid to loose their stations, or why their so concerned about falling back to empire to rebuild. In fact being freed from your .0 assets should be quite liberating.
Depends really. If your corp/alliance/coalition is just for the sake of 0.0 access & carebearing, then it's not really liberating and usually means stagnation and usually "death".
-------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
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Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.04 17:29:00 -
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I can't tell if this is a troll thread or just a legitimately stupid post so I'm just gonna put, like, three dozen twisted smilies at the bottom of this post so quote this if you're down
                   
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Alias11 I can't tell if this is a troll thread or just a legitimately stupid post...
It is not a troll thread, neither is it legitimately stupid.
You confused now? 
It is legitimately amusing to see Goons and BoB agree for once though 
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Fry Fortune
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.04 17:37:00 -
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way to beat bob
.> cancel accounts, ccp loses revenue-> bob leadership forced to find new job
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rochel Hakiri Ahhhaa that explain why Outbreak (who's againts BoB FYI), is fighting and ganking us. They only seem to steal targets of BoB, check their KB.

I would be mad ****ed if I we're BoB

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Buxaroo
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Buxaroo on 04/06/2007 17:59:49 Edited by: Buxaroo on 04/06/2007 17:59:17
Originally by: Tyrus Ex
Originally by: Victor Vision Let BoB play with themselves.
Too late. I've been doing that since I turned 14.
Sigh. Your a late starter aren't you 
OT: Your strategy to win the war against us is not to fight us?
Wow! The absolute GENIUS of that!
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Echo147
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.04 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stormer Personally I think a victory against BOB would be very likey, when the coaliton wakes up and realises that to defeat a enemy that puts everything on the line, you must also put everything on the line and fight and fight AND FIGHT until they are dead and nothing remains.
Get real, BoB aren't even putting 10% of their wealth on the line.
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Gabba
The Three Hundred
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Posted - 2007.06.04 18:21:00 -
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I think saying "put everything on the line" is a blank statement. Anyone know what that means? Ill respond to something said to me, it was:
Quote: That wont realy work. You reinforce a pos, then when the pos comes out of reinforced, thy just refual it, meaning you just wasted your time doing hit and run tactics.
I dont think its a waste of time, howlong does it take 10 dreads to put a deathstar pos into reinforced? Putting them into reinforced your only limited by the speed at which your roaming gang can get to a new POS. Maybe im derailing the thread a little, but i think one siege cycle is enough for 10 dreads to put a medium POS into reinforced right?
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.06.04 18:33:00 -
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I have one of my 'headaches' coming on
Dark-Rising
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.04 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Orree on 04/06/2007 18:40:49 To the OP: Not interested. Go sell crazy somewhere else.
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General Apocalypse
Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.06.04 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor I have one of my 'headaches' coming on
I told you that all the spirits and tobacco will get back to you one day . 
This topic is a joke anyway
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Hellraiza666
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gabba
I dont think its a waste of time, howlong does it take 10 dreads to put a deathstar pos into reinforced? Putting them into reinforced your only limited by the speed at which your roaming gang can get to a new POS. Maybe im derailing the thread a little, but i think one siege cycle is enough for 10 dreads to put a medium POS into reinforced right?
Nope
Originally by: CYVOK ...Very Disappointed, I spent 2 years building a pile of ****. -CYVOK-
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Akela
Caldari Interstellar Developments Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.04 18:49:00 -
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The OP is the main reason why lions eat their young...
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Nero Winger
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 18:56:00 -
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how to beat bob? dude1: ugh do this Dude2: no my strategy is better Dude3: noooo i think.... dude4: ah yeah all didnt work but let my try the strategy of dude one again.. and again.. .. dude457683464345: oh my im so intelligent look how i would do it...
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You dont nesesarry have to be smart to win a war... sometimes its enough to just fight.
put your balls on he field... and if you lose? so what? nothing! you will recover in a week of carebaring (what most people anyway do in eve).
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 04/06/2007 19:23:16
Originally by: Buxaroo OT: Your strategy to win the war against us is not to fight us?
Wow! The absolute GENIUS of that!
Mao Zedong:
"The enemy advances, we retreat..."
Sun Tzu:
" ...
18. All warfare is based on deception.
19. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
20. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.
21. If he is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him.
..."
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.04 19:23:00 -
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I don't think BoB mind running POS. They have been running the largest POS-network of any alliance for months and months already - having sov in many many more non-station systems than any alleged 'carebear' alliance (that should conceptually enjoy running POS more) ever had.
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Hey You
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision Edited by: Victor Vision on 04/06/2007 19:37:16
If military victory against an opponent is unlikely, other strategies are needed. Demotivation of the enemy is a valid strategy, commonly used to win wars.
So, let us look at what would demotivate BoB/MC:
Lack of PvP. Need of maintaining POSs by themselves and POS warfare in general.
How can we benefit from this:
Let BoB play with themselves. Do not worry about the BoB allies - they are way too scared to fight BoB (or already fighting BoB by not supplying them with targets), so they will not provide BoB with any fun.
So here, some ways to defeat BoB:
a) join the BoB bandwagon, with your corp/alliance. But please do not maintain any POSs, that is no fun and should be done by BoB. If BoB now wants you to leave, check possibility b)
b) dont be an active BoB target. If BoB attacks you, ignore them. Log on your empire/lowsec/pirating alts and continue having fun, while they have to work on your POSs, or camp empty systems.
c) steal BoBs targets, and have great fair fights with them. Currently Razor, MM, Goons, RA etc. Once BoB shows up, leave. Once BoB leaves the area, keep attacking their targets. Don't bother with the POSs, they are no fun, leave those for BoB to destroy.
In general, if BoB is spoiling your fun - do not play with them. Play with those that provide you with fun. Even kids know that policy. It works.
My forces have already adapted these strategies. We are stealing BoB targets whereever we can. There is no way we can loose.
Blacklight, we are stealing your targets! How will you counter this?
  
PS.:
On Guerilla Warfare by Mao Zedong:
"The enemy advances, we retreat ... The enemy tires, we attack. The enemy retreats, we pursue."
The art of war by Sun Tzu (Some of BoB might know this ):
"If he (the enemy) is in superior strength, evade him."
Well i for one will counter it by laughing my ass out and then laughing some more. And then by ofc logging on and killing **** load of people all over again.
kkthxbye
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Hey You Well i for one will counter it by laughing my ass out and then laughing some more. And then by ofc logging on and killing **** load of people all over again.
kkthxbye
If there is no targets, then there is nothing for you to kill.
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The Beatnuts
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 19:46:00 -
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pass the joint man, this is good sh*t!
Don't speak english - f1, f2, f3
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Sochin
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
Originally by: Alias11 I can't tell if this is a troll thread or just a legitimately stupid post...
It is not a troll thread, neither is it legitimately stupid.
You confused now? 
It is legitimately amusing to see Goons and BoB agree for once though 
It really is pretty stupid. Perhaps you should stop posting?
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: The Beatnuts pass the joint man, this is good sh*t!
Hahaha, indeed!
Also, your "run! they are loggin' in!" sig is awesome. I am tempted to steal it 
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sochin
Originally by: Victor Vision
Originally by: Alias11 I can't tell if this is a troll thread or just a legitimately stupid post...
It is not a troll thread, neither is it legitimately stupid.
You confused now? 
It is legitimately amusing to see Goons and BoB agree for once though 
It really is pretty stupid. Perhaps you should stop posting?
Perhaps you should start developing a sense of humour? 
Since you haven't, no targets for you, you have been a bad boy!
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Blooded Heromy
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:21:00 -
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Some of the ideas Jackass comes up with are smarter than your uber plan, that must tell us something.
I can tell you how to realy destroy BoB, turn off the server like you are sugestin and you sure will win.
PS, you should sent this to the Norweyen Nobels academy and see if they want to award u
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Blooded Heromy Some of the ideas Jackass comes up with are smarter than your uber plan, that must tell us something.
I can tell you how to realy destroy BoB, turn off the server like you are sugestin and you sure will win.
PS, you should sent this to the Norweyen Nobels academy and see if they want to award u
Good reply, you made me laugh.
But just for your information, there is still other people besides BoB on the server. No need to turn it off.
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bystander
Lightning Fish
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Posted - 2007.06.04 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Blooded Heromy PS, you should sent this to the Norweyen Nobels academy and see if they want to award u
You're funny because you can't spell.
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