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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:05:00 -
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If military victory against an opponent is unlikely, other strategies are needed. Demotivation of the enemy is a valid strategy, commonly used to win wars.
So, let us look at what would demotivate BoB/MC:
Lack of PvP. Need of maintaining POSs by themselves and POS warfare in general.
How can we benefit from this:
Let BoB play with themselves. Do not worry about the BoB allies - they are way too scared to fight BoB (or already fighting BoB by not supplying them with targets), so they will not provide BoB with any fun.
So here, three certain ways to defeat BoB:
a) join the BoB bandwagon, with your corp/alliance. But please do not maintain any POSs, that is no fun and should be done by BoB. If BoB now wants you to leave, check possibility b)
b) dont be an active BoB target. If BoB attacks you, ignore them. Log on your empire/lowsec/pirating alts and continue having fun, while they have to work on your POSs, or camp empty systems.
c) steal BoBs targets, and have great fair fights with them. Currently Razor, MM, Goons, RA etc. Once BoB shows up, leave. Once BoB leaves the area, keep attacking their targets. Don't bother with the POSs, they are no fun, leave those for BoB to destroy.
In general, if BoB is spoiling your fun - do not play with them. Play with those that provide you with fun. Even kids know that policy. It works.
My forces have already adapted these strategies. We are stealing BoB targets whereever we can. There is no way we can loose.
Blacklight, we are stealing your targets! How will you counter this?
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:08:00 -
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Hey it's that guy again
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cacareaza
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:09:00 -
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wow...a verry stupid ideea
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Fluxcage
Minmatar FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Fluxcage on 04/06/2007 14:09:09 I'm so evil that I have to use three :twisted: emoticons in this post to show the world how cruel and cool I am. Steal targets :twited: :twisted: :twisted:
:D
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:13:00 -
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Ideas like this make me a sad panda. After such monumental wars in the past that shook the very foundations of eve (GNW) , to the modern day suggestion of hiding instead of fighting.
That isn't evolution of tactics so much as developing a big yellow stripe up your back.
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Gloomrake Ono
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
My forces have already adapted these strategies. We are stealing BoB targets whereever we can. There is no way we can loose.
Blacklight, we are stealing your targets! How will you counter this?
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gloomrake Ono
Originally by: Victor Vision
My forces have already adapted these strategies. We are stealing BoB targets whereever we can. There is no way we can loose.
Blacklight, we are stealing your targets! How will you counter this?
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Since you already checked my corp ingame, read the corp description
On topic: Thanks for the reaffirming BoB posts in this thread. The course has been set.
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Ling Xiao
Prism Project Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:36:00 -
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Oh wow I haven't heard this one before! __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing? |
bloomich
Trotter's Independent Traders Co
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:37:00 -
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So lets get this straight - you are going to beat bob by not loggin in to fight?
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Major Stormer
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:38:00 -
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Personally I think a victory against BOB would be very likey, when the coaliton wakes up and realises that to defeat a enemy that puts everything on the line, you must also put everything on the line and fight and fight AND FIGHT until they are dead and nothing remains.
Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. |
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Interval
The Triad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:45:00 -
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Here's an even better idea. Quit fighting anyone, including NPCs. Heck just cancel your account while cackling with glee at BOB's missed opportunities. Great idea. Let's all quit Eve and really show BoB.
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Herculite
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:45:00 -
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I believe the proper term for this strategy is 'surrender'.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stormer Personally I think a victory against BOB would be very likey, when the coaliton wakes up and realises that to defeat a enemy that puts everything on the line, you must also put everything on the line and fight and fight AND FIGHT...
That is what BoB wants. Why give them what they want?
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stormer Personally I think a victory against BOB would be very likey, when the coaliton wakes up and realises that to defeat a enemy that puts everything on the line, you must also put everything on the line and fight and fight AND FIGHT until they are dead and nothing remains.
It's not that simple.
We all know D2 suffered from a lack of stones when it came to putting it all out there, but the rest of the corps fought hard.
It really comes down to a lack of the hardcore.
What I mean is, the most hardcore players went to corps where others play eve as often and as hard as they do. Those corps happen to be bob corps.
IRON, Razor, etc do have some players that live and breathe eve, but they are not nearly as numerous.
It's really a numbers game. Alliance numbers are meaningless - it's the number of people willing and able to set alarm clocks to wake up at 0300 to pop a POS that determine the outcome of these things.
Fair? No, but life isn't fair. Do what's fun for you.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.06.04 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 04/06/2007 15:00:12
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic What I mean is, the most hardcore players went to corps where others play eve as often and as hard as they do. Those corps happen to be bob corps.
IRON, Razor, etc do have some players that live and breathe eve, but they are not nearly as numerous.
It's really a numbers game. Alliance numbers are meaningless - it's the number of people willing and able to set alarm clocks to wake up at 0300 to pop a POS that determine the outcome of these things.
Fair? No, but life isn't fair. Do what's fun for you.
Quite well put.
Currently BoB is the force with most the fancy toys, and fancy chars.
What happens to spoiled children with all the fancy toys? You get some playing with them because they would so love the fancy toys as well.
The rest just ignores them, and has fun instead.
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Enthes goldhart
Gallente Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:09:00 -
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If the coalition want to win they have to attack bob and not its pets like they did (not that im complaining, pew pew = good) But I think its now a bit to late for this information as bob are on the offensive again.
Quote: b) dont be an active BoB target. If BoB attacks you, ignore them. Log on your empire/lowsec/pirating alts and continue having fun, while they have to work on your POSs, or camp empty systems
wouldn't that demotivate your troops and mean that you lose all station and pos's that alliances have worked for? your are either part of BOB or an fool.
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: bloomich So lets get this straight - you are going to beat bob by not loggin in to fight?
Not only that... our enemyes will actually kill eachother so we don't get any pvp. so when bob decides to attack someone, you will see all theyr friends coming and grind them to dust so that bob doesen't get to...
What can i say... youre as smart as a goon -------------------------------------
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:12:00 -
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Innovative tactic
Though I do remember BoB being royally ****ed off when we assembled a big fleet in AZN and instead of going off to fight BoB we jumpportalled to 68FT to help AXE fight AAA.
Simple spelling lessons for forum posters: A point is moot, not mute Guerilla tactics are different from gorilla tactics.
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DiuxDium
Caldari Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:13:00 -
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Step 1. Log Step 2. Victory! ------------- Hello America |
Tempest Kane
Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:19:00 -
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When will people learn this tactic dosnt work. It didnt work in fountain. It didnt work in the north. It will not work now, and it wont work when the next group trys it.
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Tyrus Ex
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision Let BoB play with themselves.
Too late. I've been doing that since I turned 14.
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Sochin
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:27:00 -
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I love the lines of thinking on these forums.
Problem: BoB is going to take over all of EVE! We'll all have to live under a tyrannical BoB hegemony!
Solution: Let's completely ignore them, refuse to fight them, and instead shoot the people that they are currently attacking when BoB isn't around!
Yeah! That'll show us!
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Sho Usyagash
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:33:00 -
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WORKERS: Look out! The Judean People's Front! The Judean People's Front!... OTTO: Ve are the Judean People's Front. ***** suicide squad. Suicide squad! Attack! [drum roll] J.P.F.: Uh! Ugh. Aggh... OTTO: That showed 'em, huh? Oooh. [whump]
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Gabba
The Three Hundred
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:37:00 -
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Its actually not such a bad idea, although it would take too long for it to work and would be.... extremely boring. I dont fight BoB myself, but if you compare them to the Roman empire (valid comparison imho), your better off using the fact that the space they control is very large their borders far apart. Fast roaming gangs to split up their forces and a cyno chain with dreads that can jump in and out, sort of guerilla tactics. Hit a POS and then move out fast, dont get into trenchwar fights with supercaps.
Ok im going back to mining now
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bloomich
Trotter's Independent Traders Co
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Gabba Its actually not such a bad idea, although it would take too long for it to work and would be.... extremely boring. I dont fight BoB myself, but if you compare them to the Roman empire (valid comparison imho), your better off using the fact that the space they control is very large their borders far apart. Fast roaming gangs to split up their forces and a cyno chain with dreads that can jump in and out, sort of guerilla tactics. Hit a POS and then move out fast, dont get into trenchwar fights with supercaps.
Ok im going back to mining now
That wont realy work. You reinforce a pos, then when the pos comes out of reinforced, thy just refual it, meaning you just wasted your time doing hit and run tactics.
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Doc Punkiller
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.04 15:56:00 -
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I prefer Plan 9. It's time to use all those frozen corpses :)
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.04 16:01:00 -
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1. Logon 2. ??? 3. Logoff 4. Profit!! -------------------------------------
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.04 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stormer Personally I think a victory against BOB would be very likey, when the coaliton wakes up and realises that to defeat a enemy that puts everything on the line, you must also put everything on the line and fight and fight AND FIGHT until they are dead and nothing remains.
Someone gets it
And the great part is that all the core BoB players would welcome this, win or lose (Yes, "win or lose", in spite of what the whiny cynics spew).
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.04 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
How can we benefit from this:
Let BoB play with themselves.
Little known fact about BoB: they can impregnate themself. Thus, this will only lead to alot of little bobbies around eve. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug |
Rennard
Aku Soku Zan
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Posted - 2007.06.04 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision If military victory against an opponent is unlikely, other strategies are needed. Demotivation of the enemy is a valid strategy, commonly used to win wars.
So, let us look at what would demotivate BoB/MC:
Lack of PvP. Need of maintaining POSs by themselves and POS warfare in general.
How can we benefit from this:
Let BoB play with themselves. Do not worry about the BoB allies - they are way too scared to fight BoB (or already fighting BoB by not supplying them with targets), so they will not provide BoB with any fun.
So here, three certain ways to defeat BoB:
a) join the BoB bandwagon, with your corp/alliance. But please do not maintain any POSs, that is no fun and should be done by BoB. If BoB now wants you to leave, check possibility b)
b) dont be an active BoB target. If BoB attacks you, ignore them. Log on your empire/lowsec/pirating alts and continue having fun, while they have to work on your POSs, or camp empty systems.
c) steal BoBs targets, and have great fair fights with them. Currently Razor, MM, Goons, RA etc. Once BoB shows up, leave. Once BoB leaves the area, keep attacking their targets. Don't bother with the POSs, they are no fun, leave those for BoB to destroy.
In general, if BoB is spoiling your fun - do not play with them. Play with those that provide you with fun. Even kids know that policy. It works.
My forces have already adapted these strategies. We are stealing BoB targets whereever we can. There is no way we can loose.
Blacklight, we are stealing your targets! How will you counter this?
and you call this a strategy, don't you realise you are already lost.
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