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Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:51:00 - [1] I was once in a renter corp deep in BOB space we lived there we livd and died defending the space while never seeing bob bothing to try and defend it themselves. Then one day a bunch of local renter corps created an alliance and offered bob a better deal a 10 billion isk deal a month to rent the region without any "competition" from other renter corps, ie exclusive access. What did that leave us with? Well by the time we ound out about the deal it was far too late of course, however the new renters did offer us a great deal of total absorbtion into their main corps, of course in the process destroying the corp many of us had built from scratch 2 years before. We complained to bob and asked for time to leave.. We was given the option of paying a entire month up front instead of the weekly way we had been with no access to the belts apart from one out of the 20 we had access to before. We also had to take down our pos's. IE 1.5 billion to rent one crokite belt 4 jumps from our pos's or nearest station. We basically were given one week "blue status" to leave an area we had bled to protect and had called home believing in the BOB = Stability lie. We moved out and in the rush lost much of our kit and ships in gate camps we had to run on a daily basis to get kit out. We eventually resettled and rented in oposing space only to be steam rolled by BOB's invasion and subsequent expulsion yet again. Do not rent from bob you are meat shields, the only actually police force holding all their territory for them and you will be shat on the moment a better deal comes by.
HUGO DRAX DRAX INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:53:00 - [2] I do not know what the big deal is, BoB charges very reasonable rates for Syndicate. I only pay 1 million isk a month for an individual nonexclusive/neutral player rate special. I can make that up in no time and you get the Weekly BoB newsletter which includes good tips on ship buildouts, news on the front etc...
AegriSomnia Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:53:00 - [3] The future of EVE is bright indeed. Originally by: grayson 34 Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:57:00 - [4] Quote: I do not know what the big deal is, BoB charges very reasonable rates for Syndicate. I only pay 1 million isk a month for an individual nonexclusive/neutral player rate special. I can make that up in no time and you get the Weekly BoB newsletter which includes good tips on ship buildouts, news on the front etc... Wow you pay bob to live in npc space that nobody can own.. What a deal! I bet they let you fly around 0.4 and all sorts without them killing you... How often do you see bob? and oh how are the pirates in the ole 1 million isk deal? do they know about it?
BubbaZanetti	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:57:00 - [5] Funny. I've made a lot of money in "BoB space" and never paid them a cent. Perhaps if more did the same, it wouldn't be BoB space anymore...
Donna Divine Gilded Goose Brokerage	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: I do not know what the big deal is, BoB charges very reasonable rates for Syndicate. I only pay 1 million isk a month for an individual nonexclusive/neutral player rate special. I can make that up in no time and you get the Weekly BoB newsletter which includes good tips on ship buildouts, news on the front etc... Wow you pay bob to live in npc space that nobody can own.. What a deal! I bet they let you fly around 0.4 and all sorts without them killing you... How often do you see bob? and oh how are the pirates in the ole 1 million isk deal? do they know about it? Right. Anyway, what corp would that be please ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:02:00 - [7] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 21:02:01 Might I suggest that the reason BoB took the new deal was because you were not doing a very good job at utilizing and defending the region? From experience, I have found that is what BoB does. For example with FIX, when we didn't seem to be utilizing our region as effectively and were slacking, they sometimes would "scare" us by throwing more renters in our direction. For example, Gunboat Diplomacy was given exclusive access to the constellation where H74 station was, formerly our space! On one hand, we almost never used this area of Querious, so most people didn't care. On the other hand, it basically said to us that we had to get off our butts and do a better job. And we did, and we now have 4 outposts, and we now own H74 station I highly doubt BoB's main interest in renting is ISK; the reason they do it is because their brains would explode if they were forced to fuel POSs to hold a dozen regions and defend them from raiding parties 24/7. The better solution is to either allow an existing alliance in the region to defend it for free (Firmus Ixion) or charge a new alliance/corporation to live there (renters). --23 Member--
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:02:00 - [8] People rent from BoB because they are unable to hold space on their own. I don't understand what the big problem is. You pay rent in an apartment because you can't build your own apartment. Oh, and I don't beleive your story, people that rent from BoB have corp and alliance tickers. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:27:00 - [9] lol a BoB newzletter?
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:28:00 - [10] Quote: Gunboat Diplomacy was given exclusive access to the constellation where H74 station was, formerly our space! On one hand, we almost never used this area of Querious, so most people didn't care. On the other hand, it basically said to us that we had to get off our butts and do a better job. And we did, and we now have 4 outposts, and we now own H74 station So basically BOB did the same thing to you.. ejected you from space you rented/owned-on-lease and your viewpoint on this? "oh we must not have been defending our masters space properly, we have been punished for our sins and must kiss ass more graft harder and do more territory defence for them" Not "the búst%rds repay us like this!! WHAT!!" The truth is you dont need BOB, no rental region of space does most people never even see a bob fleet. They do however end up fight and defending the place as if they have actually earned the right to live there by defending it entirely themselves. Of course bob is all about isk, isk = PVP fun without the need to graft and at the end of the day if you are a game designer thats probably exactly the kind of perk you are looking for. The good bits with none of the bad. The only reason you need bob is to give station access as the guy above said you dont ned to pay bob to make isk in bob space it is not exactly well defended once you get past the choke points. FIX defened that region FIX took back that area and FIX is the reason you own your old station again how much did bob help hu? Did they watch from a distance and say well done you have pleased us you may now live there again after defending it and taking it back from the invaders? Bob do nothing but rake in isk based mainly on reputation, the Tenants are bobs power not bob.

Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Dark Shikari Obviously the renting program isn't for everyone. Many alliance and corporations can't stand the ego hit of having to pay rent--I doubt FIX could, for one. Don't FIX pay rent, then? I always assumed they did. How does it work with you guys then? --------
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:33:00 - [12] Quote: People rent from BoB because they are unable to hold space on their own. I don't understand what the big problem is. You pay rent in an apartment because you can't build your own apartment. Oh, and I don't beleive your story, people that rent from BoB have corp and alliance tickers. But erm this is not the way it is, in fact it is like paying rent for an apartment then a bunch of guys turn up at your door yelling tht they want your room, you then have to fight these guys off daily with a baseball bat to keep your "rented" room. Then if one guy gets in a actually manages to smash up a few tables your landlord then fines you. As for corp ticker I am talking for myself and do not want to cause my old corpmates any hassle.
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:34:00 - [13] Yes fix pay rent
Deadeye Dave Amarr Bonanza.	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:36:00 - [14] I didn't realise State War Academy use to rent space from BoB.
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:39:00 - [15] sirmolle = dev ? so they are basically making the game fun for all right ?
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:40:00 - [16] And any way FIX you know exactly what will happen once all the other alliances have nothing left to shoot at dont you? BOB have done this to you before have they not? Coughstandingsresetcough
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:00:00 - [17] Edited by: DubanFP on 04/06/2007 22:00:04 what i dont' get is that people actually think this thread is for real! . He's not even in a player corp. ____________ DubanFP > where ever there is a player that's getting too rich, wherever there's an industrial with too much loot, wherever there is a noob with too much smack we'll be there...
Loyal Servant Caldari The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:03:00 - [18] I feel bad for bob renters... I suggest all bob renters just revolt and not pay anymore. Bob cannot beat all of you, unless you let them.. Oh, wait I guess MSN is damn near speed of light TSBS - Eve's Premier podding service!
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Dark Shikari Obviously the renting program isn't for everyone. Many alliance and corporations can't stand the ego hit of having to pay rent--I doubt FIX could, for one. Don't FIX pay rent, then? I always assumed they did. How does it work with you guys then? Theres two types of pets, those that fight and those that don't. The ones that fight don't pay rent and are allowed to do things the other type aren't allowed to do. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Loyal Servant Caldari The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:04:00 - [20] Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 04/06/2007 22:00:04 what i dont' get is that people actually think this thread is for real! . He's not even in a player corp. This coming from a bob renter. TSBS - Eve's Premier podding service!

Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:08:00 - [21] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 22:08:53 Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Dark Shikari Obviously the renting program isn't for everyone. Many alliance and corporations can't stand the ego hit of having to pay rent--I doubt FIX could, for one. Don't FIX pay rent, then? I always assumed they did. How does it work with you guys then? FIX has never paid a cent to BoB and never will. If they start requiring us to pay them rent, we will almost certainly pack up and leave, or at least give them hell in Delve for a few weeks. Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: Gunboat Diplomacy was given exclusive access to the constellation where H74 station was, formerly our space! On one hand, we almost never used this area of Querious, so most people didn't care. On the other hand, it basically said to us that we had to get off our butts and do a better job. And we did, and we now have 4 outposts, and we now own H74 station So basically BOB did the same thing to you.. ejected you from space you rented/owned-on-lease and your viewpoint on this? Incorrect. FIX technically did not "own" the area "taken" from us--BoB at the time claimed Querious and gave us access to it for free. Things have changed now, of course--we now hold the majority of Querious and the vast majority of stations. --23 Member--
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:13:00 - [22] This is of cause an alt, I ran a corp for 2 years. My corp still exists which is why I will not post with my main to express my own personal opinions. But yes bob in reality is just a very small group with the best ships in the game and all the game time in the world to pvp as they do not need to mine or rat. Stop renting and fight back! stop letting 50 guys who have been in this game from the very start play you all and run everything while you do all the grafting for them.
Ignious black	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:15:00 - [23] Quote: FIX has never paid a cent to BoB and never will. Utter bull!! If you was not paying rent why did you offer to pay 6 bilion a month to get the same deal as gunboat diplomacy got before you got in on the deal!
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:17:00 - [24] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 22:16:45 Originally by: Ignious black Utter bull!! If you was not paying rent why did you offer to pay 6 bilion a month to get the same deal as gunboat diplomacy got before you got in on the deal! Sorry alt, editing your post out won't help, I have hax forum skills. Why in the world would we want "in" on a deal to get exclusive access to a station we didn't even use in the first place? You know, the station 10 jumps from a refinery with mediocre rats and a dozen jumps from our base of operations? Sounds like your source of "intel" was COAD --23 Member--
Ignious black	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:20:00 - [25] I was editing it... and? Yes I had many a convo with FIX about you guys ****ed you couldnt rent off bob and GTU got there before you. From your own mouths..
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:23:00 - [26] Edited by: DB Preacher on 04/06/2007 22:22:46 Hmm, that's weird, I don't remember us punting someone off our land for 10 billion isk. Sorry but the op is either lying or was lied to. Maybe you were just crap and whoever told you to get orf our land tried to do it in a way that didn't make you feel useless. Then again, that doesn't sound like anyone I know dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:23:00 - [27] Originally by: Ignious black I was editing it... and? Yes I had many a convo with FIX about you guys ****ed you couldnt rent off bob and GTU got there before you. From your own mouths.. Wow. You're really gullible, you know that? I'm guessing you believe Nate Hammertown is the CEO of Goonfleet, and that Goonswarm is disbanding, and that Mittani has been arrested and banned? --23 Member--
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:32:00 - [28] Originally by: Larena Larich I was once in a renter corp deep in BOB space we lived there we livd and died defending the space while never seeing bob bothing to try and defend it themselves. Then one day a bunch of local renter corps created an alliance and offered bob a better deal a 10 billion isk deal a month to rent the region without any "competition" from other renter corps, ie exclusive access. What did that leave us with? Well by the time we ound out about the deal it was far too late of course, however the new renters did offer us a great deal of total absorbtion into their main corps, of course in the process destroying the corp many of us had built from scratch 2 years before. We complained to bob and asked for time to leave.. We was given the option of paying a entire month up front instead of the weekly way we had been with no access to the belts apart from one out of the 20 we had access to before. We also had to take down our pos's. IE 1.5 billion to rent one crokite belt 4 jumps from our pos's or nearest station. We basically were given one week "blue status" to leave an area we had bled to protect and had called home believing in the BOB = Stability lie. We moved out and in the rush lost much of our kit and ships in gate camps we had to run on a daily basis to get kit out. We eventually resettled and rented in oposing space only to be steam rolled by BOB's invasion and subsequent expulsion yet again. Do not rent from bob you are meat shields, the only actually police force holding all their territory for them and you will be shat on the moment a better deal comes by. I'm sure you deserved it for one reason or another. BoB is an excellent landlord. RISE Recruitment Thread
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:36:00 - [29] Play nice now children... Honestly, get a grip everyone... Building the homestead
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:38:00 - [30] Quote: FIX has never leased any space, ever. FIX has never paid a cent to BoB. FIX has never rented. Are you blind? Originally by: DB Preacher Darn you edited your origional post excluding all the bits where you mentioned how bob took away H74 from you as you guys were slacking and wernt using the space very well, funny that you did that. Wish I had grabbed it before you edited it. Hey BOB char has FIX ever paid you rent? be honest now :)



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