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Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:51:00 - [1] I was once in a renter corp deep in BOB space we lived there we livd and died defending the space while never seeing bob bothing to try and defend it themselves. Then one day a bunch of local renter corps created an alliance and offered bob a better deal a 10 billion isk deal a month to rent the region without any "competition" from other renter corps, ie exclusive access. What did that leave us with? Well by the time we ound out about the deal it was far too late of course, however the new renters did offer us a great deal of total absorbtion into their main corps, of course in the process destroying the corp many of us had built from scratch 2 years before. We complained to bob and asked for time to leave.. We was given the option of paying a entire month up front instead of the weekly way we had been with no access to the belts apart from one out of the 20 we had access to before. We also had to take down our pos's. IE 1.5 billion to rent one crokite belt 4 jumps from our pos's or nearest station. We basically were given one week "blue status" to leave an area we had bled to protect and had called home believing in the BOB = Stability lie. We moved out and in the rush lost much of our kit and ships in gate camps we had to run on a daily basis to get kit out. We eventually resettled and rented in oposing space only to be steam rolled by BOB's invasion and subsequent expulsion yet again. Do not rent from bob you are meat shields, the only actually police force holding all their territory for them and you will be shat on the moment a better deal comes by.
HUGO DRAX DRAX INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:53:00 - [2] I do not know what the big deal is, BoB charges very reasonable rates for Syndicate. I only pay 1 million isk a month for an individual nonexclusive/neutral player rate special. I can make that up in no time and you get the Weekly BoB newsletter which includes good tips on ship buildouts, news on the front etc...
AegriSomnia Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:53:00 - [3] The future of EVE is bright indeed. Originally by: grayson 34 Thank you for yall's advice, and a special thanks to AegriSomnia for reminding me that there are still ***holes in the world.
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:57:00 - [4] Quote: I do not know what the big deal is, BoB charges very reasonable rates for Syndicate. I only pay 1 million isk a month for an individual nonexclusive/neutral player rate special. I can make that up in no time and you get the Weekly BoB newsletter which includes good tips on ship buildouts, news on the front etc... Wow you pay bob to live in npc space that nobody can own.. What a deal! I bet they let you fly around 0.4 and all sorts without them killing you... How often do you see bob? and oh how are the pirates in the ole 1 million isk deal? do they know about it?
BubbaZanetti	Posted - 2007.06.04 20:57:00 - [5] Funny. I've made a lot of money in "BoB space" and never paid them a cent. Perhaps if more did the same, it wouldn't be BoB space anymore...
Donna Divine Gilded Goose Brokerage	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: I do not know what the big deal is, BoB charges very reasonable rates for Syndicate. I only pay 1 million isk a month for an individual nonexclusive/neutral player rate special. I can make that up in no time and you get the Weekly BoB newsletter which includes good tips on ship buildouts, news on the front etc... Wow you pay bob to live in npc space that nobody can own.. What a deal! I bet they let you fly around 0.4 and all sorts without them killing you... How often do you see bob? and oh how are the pirates in the ole 1 million isk deal? do they know about it? Right. Anyway, what corp would that be please ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gilded Goose Brokerages Trading to order.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:02:00 - [7] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 21:02:01 Might I suggest that the reason BoB took the new deal was because you were not doing a very good job at utilizing and defending the region? From experience, I have found that is what BoB does. For example with FIX, when we didn't seem to be utilizing our region as effectively and were slacking, they sometimes would "scare" us by throwing more renters in our direction. For example, Gunboat Diplomacy was given exclusive access to the constellation where H74 station was, formerly our space! On one hand, we almost never used this area of Querious, so most people didn't care. On the other hand, it basically said to us that we had to get off our butts and do a better job. And we did, and we now have 4 outposts, and we now own H74 station I highly doubt BoB's main interest in renting is ISK; the reason they do it is because their brains would explode if they were forced to fuel POSs to hold a dozen regions and defend them from raiding parties 24/7. The better solution is to either allow an existing alliance in the region to defend it for free (Firmus Ixion) or charge a new alliance/corporation to live there (renters). --23 Member--
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:02:00 - [8] People rent from BoB because they are unable to hold space on their own. I don't understand what the big problem is. You pay rent in an apartment because you can't build your own apartment. Oh, and I don't beleive your story, people that rent from BoB have corp and alliance tickers. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:27:00 - [9] lol a BoB newzletter?
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:28:00 - [10] Quote: Gunboat Diplomacy was given exclusive access to the constellation where H74 station was, formerly our space! On one hand, we almost never used this area of Querious, so most people didn't care. On the other hand, it basically said to us that we had to get off our butts and do a better job. And we did, and we now have 4 outposts, and we now own H74 station So basically BOB did the same thing to you.. ejected you from space you rented/owned-on-lease and your viewpoint on this? "oh we must not have been defending our masters space properly, we have been punished for our sins and must kiss ass more graft harder and do more territory defence for them" Not "the búst%rds repay us like this!! WHAT!!" The truth is you dont need BOB, no rental region of space does most people never even see a bob fleet. They do however end up fight and defending the place as if they have actually earned the right to live there by defending it entirely themselves. Of course bob is all about isk, isk = PVP fun without the need to graft and at the end of the day if you are a game designer thats probably exactly the kind of perk you are looking for. The good bits with none of the bad. The only reason you need bob is to give station access as the guy above said you dont ned to pay bob to make isk in bob space it is not exactly well defended once you get past the choke points. FIX defened that region FIX took back that area and FIX is the reason you own your old station again how much did bob help hu? Did they watch from a distance and say well done you have pleased us you may now live there again after defending it and taking it back from the invaders? Bob do nothing but rake in isk based mainly on reputation, the Tenants are bobs power not bob.

Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Dark Shikari Obviously the renting program isn't for everyone. Many alliance and corporations can't stand the ego hit of having to pay rent--I doubt FIX could, for one. Don't FIX pay rent, then? I always assumed they did. How does it work with you guys then? --------
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:33:00 - [12] Quote: People rent from BoB because they are unable to hold space on their own. I don't understand what the big problem is. You pay rent in an apartment because you can't build your own apartment. Oh, and I don't beleive your story, people that rent from BoB have corp and alliance tickers. But erm this is not the way it is, in fact it is like paying rent for an apartment then a bunch of guys turn up at your door yelling tht they want your room, you then have to fight these guys off daily with a baseball bat to keep your "rented" room. Then if one guy gets in a actually manages to smash up a few tables your landlord then fines you. As for corp ticker I am talking for myself and do not want to cause my old corpmates any hassle.
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:34:00 - [13] Yes fix pay rent
Deadeye Dave Amarr Bonanza.	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:36:00 - [14] I didn't realise State War Academy use to rent space from BoB.
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:39:00 - [15] sirmolle = dev ? so they are basically making the game fun for all right ?
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 21:40:00 - [16] And any way FIX you know exactly what will happen once all the other alliances have nothing left to shoot at dont you? BOB have done this to you before have they not? Coughstandingsresetcough
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:00:00 - [17] Edited by: DubanFP on 04/06/2007 22:00:04 what i dont' get is that people actually think this thread is for real! . He's not even in a player corp. ____________ DubanFP > where ever there is a player that's getting too rich, wherever there's an industrial with too much loot, wherever there is a noob with too much smack we'll be there...
Loyal Servant Caldari The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:03:00 - [18] I feel bad for bob renters... I suggest all bob renters just revolt and not pay anymore. Bob cannot beat all of you, unless you let them.. Oh, wait I guess MSN is damn near speed of light TSBS - Eve's Premier podding service!
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Dark Shikari Obviously the renting program isn't for everyone. Many alliance and corporations can't stand the ego hit of having to pay rent--I doubt FIX could, for one. Don't FIX pay rent, then? I always assumed they did. How does it work with you guys then? Theres two types of pets, those that fight and those that don't. The ones that fight don't pay rent and are allowed to do things the other type aren't allowed to do. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Loyal Servant Caldari The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:04:00 - [20] Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 04/06/2007 22:00:04 what i dont' get is that people actually think this thread is for real! . He's not even in a player corp. This coming from a bob renter. TSBS - Eve's Premier podding service!

Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:08:00 - [21] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 22:08:53 Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Dark Shikari Obviously the renting program isn't for everyone. Many alliance and corporations can't stand the ego hit of having to pay rent--I doubt FIX could, for one. Don't FIX pay rent, then? I always assumed they did. How does it work with you guys then? FIX has never paid a cent to BoB and never will. If they start requiring us to pay them rent, we will almost certainly pack up and leave, or at least give them hell in Delve for a few weeks. Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: Gunboat Diplomacy was given exclusive access to the constellation where H74 station was, formerly our space! On one hand, we almost never used this area of Querious, so most people didn't care. On the other hand, it basically said to us that we had to get off our butts and do a better job. And we did, and we now have 4 outposts, and we now own H74 station So basically BOB did the same thing to you.. ejected you from space you rented/owned-on-lease and your viewpoint on this? Incorrect. FIX technically did not "own" the area "taken" from us--BoB at the time claimed Querious and gave us access to it for free. Things have changed now, of course--we now hold the majority of Querious and the vast majority of stations. --23 Member--
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:13:00 - [22] This is of cause an alt, I ran a corp for 2 years. My corp still exists which is why I will not post with my main to express my own personal opinions. But yes bob in reality is just a very small group with the best ships in the game and all the game time in the world to pvp as they do not need to mine or rat. Stop renting and fight back! stop letting 50 guys who have been in this game from the very start play you all and run everything while you do all the grafting for them.
Ignious black	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:15:00 - [23] Quote: FIX has never paid a cent to BoB and never will. Utter bull!! If you was not paying rent why did you offer to pay 6 bilion a month to get the same deal as gunboat diplomacy got before you got in on the deal!
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:17:00 - [24] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 22:16:45 Originally by: Ignious black Utter bull!! If you was not paying rent why did you offer to pay 6 bilion a month to get the same deal as gunboat diplomacy got before you got in on the deal! Sorry alt, editing your post out won't help, I have hax forum skills. Why in the world would we want "in" on a deal to get exclusive access to a station we didn't even use in the first place? You know, the station 10 jumps from a refinery with mediocre rats and a dozen jumps from our base of operations? Sounds like your source of "intel" was COAD --23 Member--
Ignious black	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:20:00 - [25] I was editing it... and? Yes I had many a convo with FIX about you guys ****ed you couldnt rent off bob and GTU got there before you. From your own mouths..
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:23:00 - [26] Edited by: DB Preacher on 04/06/2007 22:22:46 Hmm, that's weird, I don't remember us punting someone off our land for 10 billion isk. Sorry but the op is either lying or was lied to. Maybe you were just crap and whoever told you to get orf our land tried to do it in a way that didn't make you feel useless. Then again, that doesn't sound like anyone I know dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:23:00 - [27] Originally by: Ignious black I was editing it... and? Yes I had many a convo with FIX about you guys ****ed you couldnt rent off bob and GTU got there before you. From your own mouths.. Wow. You're really gullible, you know that? I'm guessing you believe Nate Hammertown is the CEO of Goonfleet, and that Goonswarm is disbanding, and that Mittani has been arrested and banned? --23 Member--
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:32:00 - [28] Originally by: Larena Larich I was once in a renter corp deep in BOB space we lived there we livd and died defending the space while never seeing bob bothing to try and defend it themselves. Then one day a bunch of local renter corps created an alliance and offered bob a better deal a 10 billion isk deal a month to rent the region without any "competition" from other renter corps, ie exclusive access. What did that leave us with? Well by the time we ound out about the deal it was far too late of course, however the new renters did offer us a great deal of total absorbtion into their main corps, of course in the process destroying the corp many of us had built from scratch 2 years before. We complained to bob and asked for time to leave.. We was given the option of paying a entire month up front instead of the weekly way we had been with no access to the belts apart from one out of the 20 we had access to before. We also had to take down our pos's. IE 1.5 billion to rent one crokite belt 4 jumps from our pos's or nearest station. We basically were given one week "blue status" to leave an area we had bled to protect and had called home believing in the BOB = Stability lie. We moved out and in the rush lost much of our kit and ships in gate camps we had to run on a daily basis to get kit out. We eventually resettled and rented in oposing space only to be steam rolled by BOB's invasion and subsequent expulsion yet again. Do not rent from bob you are meat shields, the only actually police force holding all their territory for them and you will be shat on the moment a better deal comes by. I'm sure you deserved it for one reason or another. BoB is an excellent landlord. RISE Recruitment Thread
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:36:00 - [29] Play nice now children... Honestly, get a grip everyone... Building the homestead
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:38:00 - [30] Quote: FIX has never leased any space, ever. FIX has never paid a cent to BoB. FIX has never rented. Are you blind? Originally by: DB Preacher Darn you edited your origional post excluding all the bits where you mentioned how bob took away H74 from you as you guys were slacking and wernt using the space very well, funny that you did that. Wish I had grabbed it before you edited it. Hey BOB char has FIX ever paid you rent? be honest now :)

das licht Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:39:00 - [31] I am very sure, that I could get 1 (one) system for free from BoB, if I wanted. No charges, no nothing!
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:40:00 - [32] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 22:39:52 Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: FIX has never leased any space, ever. FIX has never paid a cent to BoB. FIX has never rented. Are you blind? Originally by: DB Preacher Darn you edited your origional post excluding all the bits where you mentioned how bob took away H74 from you as you guys were slacking and wernt using the space very well, funny that you did that. Wish I had grabbed it before you edited it. Hey BOB char has FIX ever paid you rent? be honest now :) I edited it because it was confusing people like you who have no idea what you're talking about. After the CODA war, BoB, for obvious reasons, technically owned Querious as they conquered it using their ships. They gave us access to use it, including exclusive access to a considerable portion of it. The H74 area wasn't used much by us, since it was so far away from anything useful, and so they felt free to rent it out to someone else. My point was that BoB likes to have their space fully utilized. Since we didn't use the H74 area at the time (we didn't have any reason to), they felt free to let someone else use it in the meantime. Its quite logical. This relates to the OP because I suggested that his corp/alliance wasn't effectively using the space and so was evicted to make room for someone who would. --23 Member--
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:40:00 - [33] Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: FIX has never leased any space, ever. FIX has never paid a cent to BoB. FIX has never rented. Are you blind? Originally by: DB Preacher Darn you edited your origional post excluding all the bits where you mentioned how bob took away H74 from you as you guys were slacking and wernt using the space very well, funny that you did that. Wish I had grabbed it before you edited it. Hey BOB char has FIX ever paid you rent? be honest now :) Hmm, this is strange, the op gets called a liar by me and now suddenly spins the thread around to attack FIX randomly. bad goonie, in your bed. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:44:00 - [34] Quote: I'm sure you deserved it for one reason or another. BoB is an excellent landlord. We were very good tenants and we helped a hell of a lot. Our only crime was not being large enough and BOB selling off the space around us without updating how much we paid them. They never evicted us they just sold everything off around us untill it was not viable to live there. BOB gave us no warning no options and sold land we already had rental on. BOB are not a good idea to rent from. Besides who wants to keep bob in the position they are in now? I am sure everyone wants them dead and crushed to bring this game back to some level of "fun" rather than one superpower sitting back and farming alliances for fun killing when they get big enough to be entertainment. as they have been doing for over 2 years now. That territorial map has not chnaged in a long long time.. Ever seen the bottom left of the map being any other colour?
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:45:00 - [35] Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: I'm sure you deserved it for one reason or another. BoB is an excellent landlord. We were very good tenants and we helped a hell of a lot. Our only crime was not being large enough and BOB selling off the space around us without updating how much we paid them. They never evicted us they just sold everything off around us untill it was not viable to live there. BOB gave us no warning no options and sold land we already had rental on. BOB are not a good idea to rent from. Besides who wants to keep bob in the position they are in now? I am sure everyone wants them dead and crushed to bring this game back to some level of "fun" rather than one superpower sitting back and farming alliances for fun killing when they get big enough to be entertainment. as they have been doing for over 2 years now. That territorial map has not chnaged in a long long time.. Ever seen the bottom left of the map being any other colour? You are lying. We have never kicked out a good resident. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:45:00 - [36] Quote: bad goonie, in your bed. You didnt answer the question have fix ever paid you BOB rent? Simple yes or no will do.
FarScape III	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:46:00 - [37] Because Concord is more fun, and a batter story line. No offense but real people are boring. Co-op is awesome though. A Minmater City... Cool! My Stats :)
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:48:00 - [38] Quote: You are lying. We have never kicked out a good resident. Yes you did, exactly as I described.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:48:00 - [39] Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: bad goonie, in your bed. You didnt answer the question have fix ever paid you BOB rent? Simple yes or no will do. Oh noes, will you cry some more if I don't answer? Or will you simply keep on lying some more. Bye bye now, I'm afraid I'll have to leave you unsatisfied, I hope you can get over this dissapointment but I am sure you will find someone special very soon. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:48:00 - [40] Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: You are lying. We have never kicked out a good resident. Yes you did, exactly as I described. Ooo, I can play this game all night tbh, OOOOOHHHH NOOOOO WEEEE DIIIIIDDDDNNNN'TTTTTT dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

bloomich Trotter's Independent Traders Co	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:49:00 - [41] Originally by: Larena Larich I was once in a renter corp deep in BOB space we lived there we livd and died defending the space while never seeing bob bothing to try and defend it themselves. Then one day a bunch of local renter corps created an alliance and offered bob a better deal a 10 billion isk deal a month to rent the region without any "competition" from other renter corps, ie exclusive access. What did that leave us with? Well by the time we ound out about the deal it was far too late of course, however the new renters did offer us a great deal of total absorbtion into their main corps, of course in the process destroying the corp many of us had built from scratch 2 years before. We complained to bob and asked for time to leave.. We was given the option of paying a entire month up front instead of the weekly way we had been with no access to the belts apart from one out of the 20 we had access to before. We also had to take down our pos's. IE 1.5 billion to rent one crokite belt 4 jumps from our pos's or nearest station. We basically were given one week "blue status" to leave an area we had bled to protect and had called home believing in the BOB = Stability lie. We moved out and in the rush lost much of our kit and ships in gate camps we had to run on a daily basis to get kit out. We eventually resettled and rented in oposing space only to be steam rolled by BOB's invasion and subsequent expulsion yet again. Do not rent from bob you are meat shields, the only actually police force holding all their territory for them and you will be shat on the moment a better deal comes by. Moving back on topic - Which corp was this? Surely you have nothing to hide, after all, if what you say is true, then bob would already know what your corp is, thus there is nothing to be lost by revealing all...... unless of course, you are part of goonfleet who have a reputation of spreading fale aligations and spamming forums. So I am calling you a liar hiding behind a noobalt.
Jomin Herdsy GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:50:00 - [42] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn I'm sure you deserved it for one reason or another. BoB is an excellent landlord. You sure do post a lot. Does BoB offer a discount on rent in exchange for an EVE-O whoring quota? I suppose it can become expensive paying for e-honour.
Swinton Wolsoncroft Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:51:00 - [43] I find BOB's space rates rather reasonable, considering they are charging imaginary space bux for imaginary space space. Do not trolls in your sig. -Kaemonn
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:51:00 - [44] Quote: You are lying. We have never kicked out a good resident. Oh an when you kicked FIX out of lower Q were they "bad tenents" then? did you not actually sell that region to GTU and kick fix out? Was that all made up?
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:53:00 - [45] Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: You are lying. We have never kicked out a good resident. Oh an when you kicked FIX out of lower Q were they "bad tenents" then? did you not actually sell that region to GTU and kick fix out? Was that all made up? Awww, trying so hard, soooo hard for a cookie. Well you can't have a cookie nor whatever figmental region you lost in your head. Unless you are talking about Omist, in which case, we did indeed kick goonfleet out, but you weren't a very good pet and we made alot more than 10 billion ;) dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:56:00 - [46] Edited by: Larena Larich on 04/06/2007 22:55:16 Erm the FIX guy brought Querious and H74 up not me...facts are you sold H74 and the surrounding systems to GTU and kicked FIX out. Were they bad tenants then? Must be I guess after all.. Quote: We have never kicked out a good resident.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:56:00 - [47] Originally by: Larena Larich Quote: You are lying. We have never kicked out a good resident. Oh an when you kicked FIX out of lower Q were they "bad tenents" then? did you not actually sell that region to GTU and kick fix out? Was that all made up? A) We've never rented out any space for any period of time for 10b isk. B) We never kicked FIX out of lower Q. C) We never kicked FIX out of anywhere else for being bad tennants. D) FIX have never paid us a cent. E) We've never rented any space out to State War Academy. F) You are talking rowlocks. G) Everyone get's the picture... how's YCS these days? Blog
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:56:00 - [48] I hate you blacklight. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:57:00 - [49] Originally by: DB Preacher I hate you blacklight. dbp Don't be a hater Blog
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 22:59:00 - [50] Edited by: Larena Larich on 04/06/2007 22:59:05 Quote: Gunboat Diplomacy was given exclusive access to the constellation where H74 station was, formerly our space! On one hand, we almost never used this area of Querious, so most people didn't care. On the other hand, it basically said to us that we had to get off our butts and do a better job. And we did, and we now have 4 outposts, and we now own H74 station Quote by the fix guy, before he edited it. B) We never kicked FIX out of lower Q. oooooppppsss seems you and fix have different versions of events...

JA RULER Caldari Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:00:00 - [51] OMG, i will prop get fined from my allaince for this but get a clue Larena, you are obviously just here to flame. FIX DOES NOT PAY RENT! we have had this echoed in many threads so i suggest that you kindly review these before stating your own views. Plus BOB was there to help take back there station. Its obvious that your main is either in GS or D2 or maybe even Iron and you are quite upset that your coalition failed in it attempt to steamroll over BOB. you only have yourselves to blame for haveing different agendas. FIX having seen renter corps in Q (renting from BOB) we know 1st hand what goes on and im sure a hundred of them will argue different to your statments. B4 you post try and train Forum posting Lvl 1 1st. as you can see im at Lvl 2 Lvl 3 is 6 months away Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected]) The sig was awesome though. -Oiri
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:02:00 - [52] Originally by: Larena Larich Edited by: Larena Larich on 04/06/2007 22:59:05 Quote: Gunboat Diplomacy was given exclusive access to the constellation where H74 station was, formerly our space! On one hand, we almost never used this area of Querious, so most people didn't care. On the other hand, it basically said to us that we had to get off our butts and do a better job. And we did, and we now have 4 outposts, and we now own H74 station Quote by the fix guy, before he edited it. B) We never kicked FIX out of lower Q. oooooppppsss seems you and fix have different versions of events... bwuhahhaa, OWNED BLACKLIGHT!! That's what you get for stealing my thread, hah, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:12:00 - [53] Originally by: Larena Larich Edited by: Larena Larich on 04/06/2007 23:07:41 D) FIX have never paid us a cent. Quote: Quote: [ 2006.04.17 01:28:04 ] Blacklight > hi [ 2006.04.17 01:28:13 ] Command0 > you guys looking for a fight? [ 2006.04.17 01:28:32 ] Blacklight > lol we've just killed about 80 ASCN BS [ 2006.04.17 01:28:41 ] Command0 > 100+ sa/Huzzah in 3-f [ 2006.04.17 01:28:49 ] Command0 > FIX is asking for Help [ 2006.04.17 01:29:14 ] Command0 > they are preparing to jump capship in [ 2006.04.17 01:29:24 ] Command0 > to kill the outpost being deployed [ 2006.04.17 01:30:38 ] Blacklight > Give us Querious, pay rent and we'll save your outpost [ 2006.04.17 01:31:08 ] Blacklight > 300m per corp per week to live there in BoB space [ 2006.04.17 01:33:13 ] Command0 > o_O http://drunkenwanderingsthroughspace.blogspot.com/2006/04/killing-fix-outpost-easter-bunny-hunt.html Oh dear..... You fail on a catastrophic scale in this thread. Blog
Drykor Minmatar Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:12:00 - [54] Just give us the name of the corp, it doesn't matter anymore now does it? You know what they say, proof or...
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:13:00 - [55] Originally by: Itzena Anyone else suddenly want to see BoB start charging FIX rent? They're not that stupid. --23 Member--
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:14:00 - [56] Originally by: Larena Larich Edited by: Larena Larich on 04/06/2007 22:55:16 Erm the FIX guy brought Querious and H74 up not me...facts are you sold H74 and the surrounding systems to GTU and kicked FIX out. Were they bad tenants then? Must be I guess after all.. Quote: We have never kicked out a good resident. You should have read the post better, Fix never used H74, hence another pet was placed there. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:16:00 - [57] But yiu have put up eggs since... I wonder why those didnt go pop, when Blacklight was quite clear on the kind of terms he would demand.... Quite a strong indication even if you wont admit it. I doubt you pay rent now but you did when GTU got given Q and I know that for a fact.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:20:00 - [58] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 23:19:08 Originally by: Larena Larich But yiu have put up eggs since... I wonder why those didnt go pop, when Blacklight was quite clear on the kind of terms he would demand.... Clue to alt: At the time BoB blew up the egg, they were not blue with us. In fact, they had relatively recently fought a war with us. IIRC they were in fact -10. Another clue to alt: We are now blue with BoB. Why would they blow up our egg? --23 Member--
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:20:00 - [59] I got a serious headache from this topic, please stop torturing me. Thanks.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:20:00 - [60] Originally by: Larena Larich But yiu have put up eggs since... I wonder why those didnt go pop, when Blacklight was quite clear on the kind of terms he would demand.... Quite a strong indication even if you wont admit it. I doubt you pay rent now but you did when GTU got given Q and I know that for a fact. You my son are in what the Goons term a 'failure cascade' of epic proportions. Blog

Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:23:00 - [61] Well you can always spawn some BPO's cant you. You ruin this game.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:25:00 - [62] Originally by: Larena Larich Well you can always spawn some BPO's cant you. You ruin this game. If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. --23 Member--
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:25:00 - [63] Originally by: Larena Larich Well you can always spawn some BPO's cant you. You ruin this game. Brilliant, simply brilliant. Having started so well you manage to sustain your performance and end on such a remarkable high. Congratulations on your epic thread Blog
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:25:00 - [64] First I would I disagree with tyhe general "Look, Bob is the strongest entity so stfu, they are fine with me.". That said... Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 22:22:39 Might I suggest that the reason BoB took the new deal was because you were not doing a very good job at utilizing and defending the region? Turncoats. What is "a very good job at defending a region" to Bob's eyes ? Please tell me because it's like asking Mr Casual to build a Titan. Originally by: Dark Shikari I highly doubt BoB's main interest in renting is ISK; Disagree. Why asking newcomers if money was not a main interest ? Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 22:22:39 the reason they do it is because their brains would explode if they were forced to fuel POSs to hold a dozen regions and defend them from raiding parties 24/7. The better solution is to either allow an existing alliance in the region to defend it for free (Firmus Ixion) or charge a new alliance/corporation to live there (renters). To me, it's destroying the game. Saying anyone would want to do something for another (the police), pay a fine (the bill) and be asking to gtfo is criminal. [;)] Originally by: Dark Shikari In many ways it is a win-win situation: the corporation gets 0.0 access without risk of attack by a very large alliance, because if a serious threat comes in (say, a 3000-man alliance attacking) There is no Goons :) .. anyway .. Originally by: Dark Shikari BoB will come deal with it. Without the renting program, the corporation would be wiped out by the onslaught and forced to retreat to empire. On the other hand, BoB gets a corporation to defend a small portion of their space against raids and to handle POS logistics also. Obviously the renting program isn't for everyone. Many alliance and corporations can't stand the ego hit of having to pay rent--I doubt FIX could, for one. Many Alliance, Corporation and PLAYERS can't stand to play under somebody who tell go there do this. It's a game. I don't want to be after my work under the command of someone I don't even know. Bob is on the Eve of a 0.0 monopoly. I'm the kind of guy to say "cool, can I brush your shoes ? A cookie ! A cookie ! Pretty please some piece of some old cookie then ?" ----- History is made by whinners Originally by: DB Preacher (...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:26:00 - [65] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Larena Larich Well you can always spawn some BPO's cant you. You ruin this game. If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. Mind if i quote that and hang it on my wall? ____________ Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20.
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:26:00 - [66] Oh i'm sorry seeing my corp destroyed, by bob eviction and then hearing about all the corruption between bob ccp that has long been suspected makes me a little angry mkay?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:27:00 - [67] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 04/06/2007 23:26:28 Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Larena Larich Well you can always spawn some BPO's cant you. You ruin this game. If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. Mind if i quote that and hang it on my wall? No problem Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Stuff I understand and, while I disagree, I respect your opinion. Unlike the alt OP, you have some common sense. --23 Member--
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:27:00 - [68] Originally by: Larena Larich Oh i'm sorry seeing my corp destroyed, by bob eviction and then hearing about all the corruption between bob ccp that has long been suspected makes me a little angry mkay? sry but that T20 comment had NO bearing whatsoever and pretty much cemented your intent to simple flame BoB and not actualy care about your "non-existant?" corp. ____________ Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20.
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:31:00 - [69] Just to update you guys I have taken two Aspirins. Larena, just give it up. The more you post in this topic the deeper you sink yourself into this marshland of bullcrap you have created.
Larena Larich	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:33:00 - [70] I think explaining my motivation and source of anger is pretty darn well justified. Devs the community now knows we are just toys in your amusement park, and the anger in this community is real.

Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:35:00 - [71] Originally by: Jomin Herdsy Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn I'm sure you deserved it for one reason or another. BoB is an excellent landlord. You sure do post a lot. Does BoB offer a discount on rent in exchange for an EVE-O whoring quota? I suppose it can become expensive paying for e-honour. Our e-honour is found in the slaying of thousands upon thousands nooblet Goon pilots and their "friends", and not losing sovereignty even once in 5 months of assaults. How's is it going for the Goonies these days? Not looking so hot from where I am sitting. Lawl. RISE Recruitment Thread
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:37:00 - [72] Edited by: DubanFP on 04/06/2007 23:37:44 Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn Originally by: Jomin Herdsy Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn I'm sure you deserved it for one reason or another. BoB is an excellent landlord. You sure do post a lot. Does BoB offer a discount on rent in exchange for an EVE-O whoring quota? I suppose it can become expensive paying for e-honour. Our e-honour is found in the slaying of thousands upon thousands nooblet Goon pilots and their "friends", and not losing sovereignty even once in 5 months of assaults. How's is it going for the Goonies these days? Not looking so hot from where I am sitting. Lawl. No need to simply aggrivate Goon & Co with off topic reminders of issues irrellevant to this discussion. We're better then that remember? ____________ Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:41:00 - [73] I truly hope FIX dont pay rent to bob... They have taken a lot of punishment for the boss in the last year. Good fights and good sportsmanship as always with FIX.
Lone Bear Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:42:00 - [74] TSBS paid rents with their loots and wrecks. Kweel, stop being a "bouffon". Merci.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:45:00 - [75] Originally by: Lone Bear TSBS paid rents with their loots and wrecks. Kweel, stop being a "bouffon". Merci. If you want me to be calling you names in french I can start rigth now. ----- History is made by whinners Originally by: DB Preacher (...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)
HUGO DRAX DRAX INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:49:00 - [76] Why do you keep harping on this rental, I mean 1 million isk a month just for the Newsletter is worth it in itself. Now if it was a billion a week I can see where it is a problem but like I said 1 million isk for a whole month, access to Syndicate and a good Newsletter with lots of insight is well worth the investment and it is like insurance also. Dont just complain, do something. Channel macrointel meet with likeminded folks, spottings,intel
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:51:00 - [77] Originally by: HUGO DRAX Why do you keep harping on this rental, I mean 1 million isk a month just for the Newsletter is worth it in itself. Now if it was a billion a week I can see where it is a problem but like I said 1 million isk for a whole month, access to Syndicate and a good Newsletter with lots of insight is well worth the investment and it is like insurance also. Newsletter? I prefer the Poitot Monthly. --23 Member--
TimR Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:51:00 - [78] Edited by: TimR on 04/06/2007 23:52:10 I have a feeling the OP is talking about Gunboat Diplomacy taking the constellation that H74 resides in? I was in one of the smaller corps, we were given a month or so to leave. Gunboat were very accomodating. Chatting to other smaller renters, and most (if not all) of them felt the same. After living in Empire for a while I returned to Q and joined Gunboat. I saw this from both sides of the fence and it seemed all friendly and cool. Why drag this up now? If I'm wrong and this is something completely different, ignore me. EDIT: The Fix/Gunboat/BoB/MC fleets repelling IRON from 9CG were great fun. I saw nothing but cooperation and respect while I was in Q.
Lone Bear Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:55:00 - [79] Edited by: Lone Bear on 04/06/2007 23:56:07 Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Originally by: Lone Bear TSBS paid rents with their loots and wrecks. Kweel, stop being a "bouffon". Merci. If you want me to be calling you names in french I can start rigth now. I never make threats, I simply push the trigger. Look like you dont have the guts to do it. Edit: Quit being a buffoon (I can also do it in english).
JA RULER Caldari Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:56:00 - [80] From what i can guess, you either rented in Q but was kicked out for being either stupid or not doing anything at all. If indeed you had rented in Q in the 1st place. If you are so***** sure of what you say of which you say you seen with your own eyes. why not post with your main? I tell you why! its because you know it will embarrass your corp and alliance and they will end up kicking you from said corp/allaince. what exactly have you seen with your own eyes? maybe if you stop bringing up nonesense on forums and changing the subject each time you are corrected you might find time to actually pay more attention to the real world and realise its time for your bedtime my little goon. Goodnight Johnboy. Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected]) The sig was awesome though. -Oiri

Gort Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.06.04 23:57:00 - [81] This has to be one of the most hilarious Eve-O threads ever. Did the guy with the flattened nose and the silk tie call it "rent", did he? -- When in doubt, empty the magazine.
HUGO DRAX DRAX INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2007.06.05 00:11:00 - [82] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: HUGO DRAX Why do you keep harping on this rental, I mean 1 million isk a month just for the Newsletter is worth it in itself. Now if it was a billion a week I can see where it is a problem but like I said 1 million isk for a whole month, access to Syndicate and a good Newsletter with lots of insight is well worth the investment and it is like insurance also. Newsletter? I prefer the Poitot Monthly. lol great site, now it needs some additional content. Your site? Dont just complain, do something. Channel macrointel meet with likeminded folks, spottings,intel
The Eyeball	Posted - 2007.06.05 00:13:00 - [83] Edited by: The Eyeball on 05/06/2007 00:13:42 I was in same corp at the same point, none of this makes sense. There were options available for the corp, the exclusive deal meant we had to move, most people were not that bothered. BoB were decent landlords to us at that time, which was just before the northern mini-invasion. I left the corp and moved on just before these events but kept in good contact with the others who are still at this time on good relations with BoB and senior figures in FIX. I have no idea why you would launch this smear thread against BoB but it is largely not even based on true events.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.05 00:17:00 - [84] Originally by: HUGO DRAX Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: HUGO DRAX Why do you keep harping on this rental, I mean 1 million isk a month just for the Newsletter is worth it in itself. Now if it was a billion a week I can see where it is a problem but like I said 1 million isk for a whole month, access to Syndicate and a good Newsletter with lots of insight is well worth the investment and it is like insurance also. Newsletter? I prefer the Poitot Monthly. lol great site, now it needs some additional content. Your site? Nah, made by a member of Goonfleet who kept piping up during fleet ops in Syndicate to ask "hey, do you know that Poitot is the only named system in Syndicate?" just to **** off the FCs. --23 Member--
Gee Lok	Posted - 2007.06.05 00:43:00 - [85] Originally by: Dark Shikari In many ways it is a win-win situation: the corporation gets 0.0 access without risk of attack by a very large alliance, because if a serious threat comes in (say, a 3000-man alliance attacking), BoB will come deal with it. Without the renting program, the corporation would be wiped out by the onslaught and forced to retreat to empire. On the other hand, BoB gets a corporation to defend a small portion of their space against raids and to handle POS logistics also. I guess the renters are pretty much getting the same deal that they would have if they had conquered the space themselves. The only difference is that they don't have to constantly worry about regional politics and the rick of being invaded.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.05 00:45:00 - [86] Originally by: HUGO DRAX Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: HUGO DRAX Why do you keep harping on this rental, I mean 1 million isk a month just for the Newsletter is worth it in itself. Now if it was a billion a week I can see where it is a problem but like I said 1 million isk for a whole month, access to Syndicate and a good Newsletter with lots of insight is well worth the investment and it is like insurance also. Newsletter? I prefer the Poitot Monthly. lol great site, now it needs some additional content. Your site? The "Fun and Games" section made me lol --------
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.05 00:55:00 - [87] This thread delivers. Seriously don't give a damn about any of the claims apart from the "Bob newsletter" which renters get. I would pay 1 million just for that for comedy value alone. "Yes I am on the Bob mailing list, whoops better go pay my subscription".... Is that for real? Thats what we really wanna know.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.05 01:08:00 - [88] I'm still on the first page of the thread but I bet DS is gonna win!
Elspeth Vigneron Caldari Phoenix Logistics Industries	Posted - 2007.06.05 01:13:00 - [89] Originally by: Larena Larich I was once in a renter corp deep in BOB space we lived there we livd and died defending the space while never seeing bob bothing to try and defend it themselves. Then one day a bunch of local renter corps created an alliance and offered bob a better deal a 10 billion isk deal a month to rent the region without any "competition" from other renter corps, ie exclusive access. What did that leave us with? Well by the time we ound out about the deal it was far too late of course, however the new renters did offer us a great deal of total absorbtion into their main corps, of course in the process destroying the corp many of us had built from scratch 2 years before. We complained to bob and asked for time to leave.. We was given the option of paying a entire month up front instead of the weekly way we had been with no access to the belts apart from one out of the 20 we had access to before. We also had to take down our pos's. IE 1.5 billion to rent one crokite belt 4 jumps from our pos's or nearest station. We basically were given one week "blue status" to leave an area we had bled to protect and had called home believing in the BOB = Stability lie. We moved out and in the rush lost much of our kit and ships in gate camps we had to run on a daily basis to get kit out. We eventually resettled and rented in oposing space only to be steam rolled by BOB's invasion and subsequent expulsion yet again. Do not rent from bob you are meat shields, the only actually police force holding all their territory for them and you will be shat on the moment a better deal comes by. Post with your main, not your "State War Academy" since 2005.03.12 sock-puppet (yes, I looked you up in the game). Then maybe what you say might have some credibility. Phoenix Logistics Industries
Taran Summers The Merovingians	Posted - 2007.06.05 01:26:00 - [90] All I know, is the more threads I read, the more Dark Shikari joins Chribba in my mental role models in eve list.

HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.05 01:35:00 - [91] What the hell!! Why do I always miss the funny threads?! No fair... >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<
ArcticFox Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.05 02:00:00 - [92] I don't rent from BoB because they don't charge us anything. It's really more like house-sitting I guess. -------------------------- There is only one +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve, and only the lag is allowed to equip it.
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.06.05 02:18:00 - [93] I remember when fix was bobs allie and BoB blew up one of their outpost eggs:P Anyway, Fix was about loose its space to, SA,Huzzah,Smash and Imperium about a year ago... BoB did not want those alliances being so close to the bob core systems to they decided the would come in and take FiX's space just as that coalition was going to take it. So BoB and MC decide to come help fix. in 9CG after it had been under seige for a month and a half and the coalition was about to take it... It was a very very very bad siege, the station became buged because it changed hands to many times... More it less what happened was, some dumb ass warped us to a compromised safe spot and we lost 2 carriers that were afk. and we all went **** it and left. Tho we got 2-3 bob dreadnoughts back when dread kills were rare.. thats how I remember it

Eldo Davip Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.06.05 02:37:00 - [94] Such corporation based threads are to be posted in CAOD. However the OP doesn't show her Corp alliance ticker, therefore I cannot move it to CAOD as per the rules. Therefore... Thread Locked click ___ Questions/Complaints/Opinions/Bree \| Forum Rules \| Our Website EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER



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