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HC CEO	Posted - 2004.01.12 06:16:00 - [1] Unfortunately sometimes people just don't a give a damn. Today, Colossus Technologies left the XETIC alliance to fight along side CA. Evolution and in the past and sections of SA working with Everlasting Vendetta had wronged them by blowning up their ships. I'm sure Evolution expected nothing less and now they have another enemy, as does SA. Congratulations. I would also like to acknowledge Evolution for putting the entire Xetic/IF group, including our fine corp, on their KOS list. Please do not try to justify your puerile actions. Its is common knowledge you have been the aggressors and you have stated in public you cared little for right or wrong or public image. Its obvious to all that we have tried very hard to avoid conflict and it is satisfying that it is the aggressor himself that has also began the war. Up till now we have been lossing ships in a vain hope to avoid conflict but we have little choice now. You now have 500 or so pilots that will be adding you to their KOS lists. A list you never had to be on had you simply treated us the same way we have been treating you. I'm sure you expected nothing less.
Shiwan Khan	Posted - 2004.01.12 06:27:00 - [2] I would personally like to welcome Colossus Technologies into the CA and wish the Xetic Alliance the very best in their battle against Evol. I think the series of hostile acts against Xetic by Evol shows everyone quite clearly who the REAL pirates in EvE are.... Again good luck and welcome
Asmodia	Posted - 2004.01.12 06:34:00 - [3] Welcome by the 'good' guys. ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------
Maiwenn LeBesco	Posted - 2004.01.12 07:19:00 - [4] Which corp are you actually from? It sounds like you're from Colossus Tech, but your name would suggest otherwise.
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2004.01.12 07:20:00 - [5] Edited by: Homo Erectus on 12/01/2004 07:27:20 it's obvious, clearly, everyone knows, it's common knowledge and it's clear are cool things to say when you are about to introduce facts. you don't know what is factual and what isn't. in other news, we welcome CT to the CA and will be targetting your ships in other area's of space that catch/stain/curse now. btw srry for edit but: Quote: You now have 500 or so pilots that will be adding you to their KOS lists. ROFLROFLLLFORFLROFOMFGGGGG yes, im sure. YOPU JUST H\GOT YOURSELF 187316 PILOTS ADDING YOU TO THEIR KOS LISTS HC CEO. K? BE AFRAID PLZPLZPLZ HOMO I AM SOMEBODY...SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE IN CAREBEAR REALM DARE SAY, YOUR A GREIFER WHO IS A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND! YOU NEED TO WAKE FROM YOUR DILUSION THAT EVERYONE LIKES YOU AND THAT YOUR THE MASTER OF EVE. - fanboy, Q1 2004
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.01.12 07:26:00 - [6] Quote: Unfortunately sometimes people just don't a give a damn. Pretty much Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Asmodia	Posted - 2004.01.12 07:42:00 - [7] Quote: in other news, we welcome CT to the CA and will be targetting your ships in other area's of space that catch/stain/curse now. stop dreaming you can beat the kill ratio of the CFS Navy ... ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.01.12 07:43:00 - [8] Quote: stop dreaming you can beat the kill ratio of the CFS Navy ... Yeah, wonder what our kill ratio was yesterday? Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.01.12 07:55:00 - [9] Maiwenn LeBesco - Hegemonic Core, part of XETIC. ProphetGuru - Apathy looks cool huh Homo Erectus - Quote: you don't know what is factual and what isn't. hehe...yes, I obviously don't know and you do. Sounds like the beginning of a justification. Though evolution didn't care? You KOS is mighty fat now...just like a pirate corp. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2004.01.12 08:25:00 - [10] Primer, you can't back up your mouth. You use all of the stretch phrases that I made examples of, and then further to sounds like afterwards. no, it doens't 'sound like'. the only part you got right was Quote: I obviously don't know and you do. just like a pirate corp... No, newbie. A pirate corp wouldn't tell people to stay the hell away from them because they fire on unknowns. They would rather have the unknowns come, to be fired on. And, we told you and everyone else, to stay away from where the war was raging. Learn how to debate.
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2004.01.12 08:26:00 - [11] Edited by: ProphetGuru on 12/01/2004 08:27:18 OMG. You are so right. We are evil. I am so happy you have brought this matter forward!! We will all be canceling our accounts immediately. Guess what bub. We've been on far more impressive kos lists then yours. Your threat of being on a 500person kos list is much like your alliance, a joke. 500 more targets is a good thing however, the reality is, we will fight on our terms, not yours. I am quite sure however, that CA will be rejoicing that they will have 500 more people to deal with our huge fleet of 20 that we usually bring to battle. Between 900 of you, you can't lose right :) Btw, yes, I am arrogant. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Rebellion	Posted - 2004.01.12 08:37:00 - [12] We told you that to avoid losses, stay out of warzones. You kept going into them. We told you that you could have asked us if it was safe. You didn't and got repeatedly killed. We told you to stay away from us to avoid deaths. I guess that was too hard. Now you have resolved to take an action that will cost you even more ships than before. I cannot understand the logic. "Leaving" XETIC is an unabashed tactic the same as people leaving their corporations in empire space to have the police fight for them. This tells us that you will use your mains to fight while your alts remain in XETIC. You didn't try all that you could to avoid a fight Xenius. In fact, the only thing you really did try was to present causus bellum after repeated lapses of judgement that resulted in losses. You wanted justification for declaring hostility to us from the first time that your own negligence caused your own death. It is apparent that your pride suffered because we treated you just like how we would treat any other person. Everything afterward were just set pieces to use for your justification. This is why your members never did know any better than to jump into death zones or to contact us prior to going into them. I'd hazard a guess you told them that we had a NAP with XETIC because Stain had a NAP with XETIC and to not fear hostilities from any sides in the Curse conflict if only to increase their angst after they inevitably get killed for being in a warzone. There are many many corporations out there who are on good terms with us. It is surprisingly easy to be on good terms with us that those who are not make a conscious effort to be that way for whatever reason they have. These are all choices that you make, I leave you to them.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.01.12 08:44:00 - [13] CA accuse EV of never being in the warzone yet we've managed to destroy enough Colosssus Technology ships that you've joined the dark side? Or was Everlasting Vendetta's name thrown in simply because we're seen as the "bad guys of Stain"? I'm an active pilot in Catch and I can tell you now that I've been extremely careful in not killing Xetic - ask many of the members of Matari Backbone or X-Trading. these guys tend to say "HI, XETIC member coming through" which is great - saves a lot of hassle opening that god-forsaken show info screen. However, you've made your decision and I'll gladly blow the ** out of you now. Thank you. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!**
Bas Rutten	Posted - 2004.01.12 09:13:00 - [14] Edited by: Bas Rutten on 12/01/2004 09:21:26 One thing I remember ... in every CA blockade I took part of, even with enemy ships camping another gate IN the same system, whenever a Xetic guy jumped in, we were repeatedly told not to fire and guess what happened? The Xetic guy passed. It's not that there are accidental deaths in Eve right? Edit Jeez how come I always forget something ... ok, I already see someone write ... there are many ways of dying accidentally ... yes, but it requires some stupidity by the one firing no? Or ... carelessness (right click - lock target - activate weapons ... continue firing ... locking on pod) ... so WTF are you Evol/SA guys on about? ____________________________________ Deny the Urge - brutal Death from Germoney
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.01.12 09:23:00 - [15] Show Info is too slow - that's the whole problem. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Caldarian Princess	Posted - 2004.01.12 09:58:00 - [16] First, i want to say that i am not interesting in another flame thread but i want to question some conclusions EVOL members did here. Quote: We told you that to avoid losses, stay out of warzones. You kept going into them. Ok, thats your philosophy and you want to teach us the lesson: flying through a warzone is dangerous. Quote: We told you that you could have asked us if it was safe. You didn't and got repeatedly killed. Hmm... as Stain forces and curse forces know as we always post to the local that xetic/if is in the system and want to pass the warzone... Both parties answer and hardly occurs. Ok you told us that you lost one indu... last week as justification for your attacks. Shrike shot me down on October 30th the first time ;) I dont want to cry but i dont understand your logic... Quote: We told you to stay away from us to avoid deaths. I guess that was too hard. Ok, we tried our best to evade you but why did you enter Immensea with about ten ships to fight us? Was this a reaction of the shot down of your one and only indu? Please explain this. Quote: "Leaving" XETIC is an unabashed tactic the same as people leaving their corporations in empire space to have the police fight for them. This tells us that you will use your mains to fight while your alts remain in XETIC. Sorry, that simply is not true. I hope you understand all my sentences... please no flaming and no insults. I am just a basic member of a IF corp and want to bring some light into the darkness. Greetings Princess
Drutort	Posted - 2004.01.12 10:07:00 - [17] Quote: Show Info is too slow - that's the whole problem. yar it is thats why we need quickinfo all that extra loading stuff you dont need at all some times... it just slows showinfo so MUCH this quickinfo could be configured and could be even turned off etc... it would be quite fast IMO if done right and would be soo damn cool support Idea: QuickInfo an alternative to ShowInfo my MoBlog
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.01.12 10:27:00 - [18] Quote: We told you that to avoid losses, stay out of warzones. You kept going into them. Indeed we did and still do. Quote: We told you that you could have asked us if it was safe. You didn't and got repeatedly killed. No you didn't. You said to get out of the warzone or be shot. Quote: We told you to stay away from us to avoid deaths. I guess that was too hard. Yes, many indies died. Many at jumping points like mine without any warning but then we should of not been there. Quote: Now you have resolved to take an action that will cost you even more ships than before. Umm... -10 rating is on our corp you hypocrite. We have not changed ours yet. Quote: I cannot understand the logic. Obiviously. You see sometimes, people don't get threatened into leaving any area you decide to move to. Quote: "Leaving" XETIC is an unabashed tactic the same as people leaving their corporations in empire space to have the police fight for them. This tells us that you will use your mains to fight while your alts remain in XETIC. Er...that logic again is killing you. Why would we do that? Quote: You didn't try all that you could to avoid a fight Xenius. What complete and utter nonsense. Your the ones shooting, we have been the ones trying to avoid war, we are the ones with the -10 rating and on your KOS list and we did not do enough. What amazing logic. Quote: In fact, the only thing you really did try was to present causus bellum after repeated lapses of judgement that resulted in losses. You wanted justification for declaring hostility to us from the first time that your own negligence caused your own death. Oh thats rich. We er..deliberately got blown up in our ark filled indies so we could declare war on you more legitamately. That would explain why we are -10 on your standing huh and ours are neutral towards you still. Can this get anymore laughable. Quote: It is apparent that your pride suffered because we treated you just like how we would treat any other person. Everything afterward were just set pieces to use for your justification. This is why your members never did know any better than to jump into death zones or to contact us prior to going into them. I'd hazard a guess you told them that we had a NAP with XETIC because Stain had a NAP with XETIC and to not fear hostilities from any sides in the Curse conflict if only to increase their angst after they inevitably get killed for being in a warzone. I'm pleased to see evolution is coming here in hordes trying to justify themselves yet again out of a hopelessly self evidence situation. The fact is that your KOS list is getting longer and longer which illustrate how seriously people take your 'warzone' argument. We decided to stay and ignore your threats for us to leave, you fired upon us in returned and have now put us on YOUR kos list. Quote: There are many many corporations out there who are on good terms with us. It is surprisingly easy to be on good terms with us that those who are not make a conscious effort to be that way for whatever reason they have. Firstly, we tried this path. I contact strike to simple allow us to coexist here and told him I would ignore the current lose of indies. He told me to get out. The only way was to leave the region or fight CA. Let me say another thing. For a corp that really does not care, I've never seen anyone post as much pathetic dribble trying to justify their violence towards others than evolution. You just keep fattening up that KOS list. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Majin Buu	Posted - 2004.01.12 10:28:00 - [19] u were told countless times to stop warping to gates ALONGSIDE CA ships but u never took any notice. You still carried on when we told u that we would shoot your ships aswell if we saw them warping around with CA ships, but u still carried on. I guess u actually joined the CA along time ago but tried to stay neutral by using a another alliance as cover BoB KillBoard
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.01.12 10:41:00 - [20] Quote: u were told countless times to stop warping to gates ALONGSIDE CA ships but u never took any notice. You still carried on when we told u that we would shoot your ships aswell if we saw them warping around with CA ships, but u still carried on. Oh..our indies now warp alongside CA ships and thats why they got shot. This is really getting desperate. Quote: I guess u actually joined the CA along time ago but tried to stay neutral by using a another alliance as cover Your guessing is obvious not your best talent. What SA ships have we killed smart guy? "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.01.12 10:47:00 - [21] I just find it very suspicious how often a Xetic "trader" will enter one of our camped systems and take an inordinate amount of time passing through. That's taking into account the slowness of the indy. Another worrying thing occured yesterday. I logged into U-Q and saw a nice SA presence there. I asked, in local, if they knew what the CA presence was like in Curse but, before any of SA could answer, a Matari Backbone member answered that "everything was clear upto V-UIEL". Surely neutrality requires your members NOT to answer such questions? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Maiwenn LeBesco	Posted - 2004.01.12 10:57:00 - [22] Eve is a pretty funny game. So much politix... Anyways, back to the point: Blah blah we shot you, blah blah you didnt like it so you blah blah shot us back blah blah we are gonna shoot you some more now and blah blah you're going to shoot back. I've read this story already in another thread somewhere, I think.. oh, something about pirates & grids or something that I probably forgot to add. I think that about covers it all. See you in space k.
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.01.12 11:07:00 - [23] Quote: I just find it very suspicious how often a Xetic "trader" will enter one of our camped systems and take an inordinate amount of time passing through. That's taking into account the slowness of the indy. Another worrying thing occured yesterday. I logged into U-Q and saw a nice SA presence there. I asked, in local, if they knew what the CA presence was like in Curse but, before any of SA could answer, a Matari Backbone member answered that "everything was clear upto V-UIEL". Surely neutrality requires your members NOT to answer such questions? Well, he did not give you the composition or location of CA fleets. Don't you think more worrying was the time greenhornet of EV or whatever his name is, nailed 3 indies in one day? THATS a violation Look. The only this that annoys me is arrogance and clear dishonesty. That MASS pilot claiming our indies fly with CA ships. Did you see that matari indy with a CA escort? Its blatant lies and simply because this guy is arguing for your side, you don't correct him. Evolution is an corp that kills neutrals when it does not have to. Hence their long KOS list. My aim here is entirely to illustrate this to the neutral corps that don't know this. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.01.12 11:09:00 - [24] Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/01/2004 11:14:00 Joining CA means guaranteed podding by Evol, SA, FA, CC etc whereas before it meant only Evol podding you. Can't see the logic behind such a move unless you fully intended to join CA anyway and you're just using this to stir up a lot of propaganda bull**. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!**
Asmodia	Posted - 2004.01.12 11:19:00 - [25] Quote: Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/01/2004 11:14:00 Joining CA means guaranteed podding by Evol, SA, FA, CC etc whereas before it meant only Evol podding you. So you are the offical representant of all this alliances and corps ? cool ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.01.12 11:20:00 - [26] Quote: Joining CA means guaranteed podding by Evol, SA, FA, CC etc whereas before it meant only Evol podding you. Can't see the logic behind such a move unless you fully intended to join CA anyway and you're just using this to stir up a long of propaganda. We did NOT join CA. Colossus Tech left XETIC and joined CA. We are not Colossus Tech. This post is about evolution and their KOS list and one gets on it. I'm glad no one you guys are real politicans. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Mordessa	Posted - 2004.01.12 11:21:00 - [27] Quote: Quote: We told you that you could have asked us if it was safe. You didn't and got repeatedly killed. No you didn't. You said to get out of the warzone or be shot. Uhm no, not all the time, I refer you to this post here: alternative offer Stating the following: Quote: Xetick, As I stated before I have been away for a while, but may I ask this question? Do you have your pilots monitor local while traveling through possible hot spots or areas near hot spots? It may help this whole situation out immensly if your pilots did, and if they detect us, announce yourselves to us. If we know you are coming and let us know ahead of time, then it could be possible for us to not instantly lock and fire upon your ships while we are at a war zone. I advise you contact our CEO and talk to him about a possible agreement in that regard. Perhaps its not too late or maybe it is, who knows but what have you got to loose? So anyhow, your comment here, of.... Quote: No you didn't. You said to get out of the warzone or be shot. Isnt exactly true.
Duke Droklar	Posted - 2004.01.12 11:30:00 - [28] Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig
Temerlyn	Posted - 2004.01.12 11:36:00 - [29] Quite right this is pretty much the same topic as before. We are going through a war zone yes. A war zone imply's 2 sides If we were getting attacked accadently by both sides then it would be more understandable. But again and again its Stain and only stain or evol, or what incarnation you conjure. As for the nonsense of us using Colossus technologies as an alt corp in CA to use to attack stain. Do you guys work for the NSA? CIA? in all its a nice consipiracy theory but way of the mark. Colossus Technologies were more of a corp of action while xetic desires neutrality and peacefull trade. AS a result CT got flustered with Xetic's non action and joined the CA to have a go. You repeatedly say that evol is not part of stain, and its been evol who have been killing our ships. So we efectivly treat Evol as enemies of Xetic. If the SA declare war on us for attacking Evol then all your BS about evol not being part of The SA lies. So we consider Evol kos as a seperate entity from SA, If SA declare war on Xetic then it cleary states Evol is SA. As for killing evol we will ask permission to fly through curse space on the sole intent to patrol and hunt evol. If a Xetic fleet and CA fleet happen to be in the area and attack evol then thats co-incidence and consists of two groups with a common foe. Despite your propaganda about us working with CA. We are not going to take turns in fighting you when we can fight you as one group. But again we will not seek CA's help at all, in fact we would prefer only there permission to enter curse to hunt evol. Simple as this, if we here about a fight between CA and Evol and we have a fleet we would join in to kill evol. If we had a fleet and we were fighting evol, and the CA also had a nearby fleet dont be surprised if they join the fight. This by no means we are working along side CA, infact accadental killings on both our sides may happen do to the lack of comunications. I think i have spelled it out enough.
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.01.12 11:40:00 - [30] Mordessa, its always refreshing to see a more friendly view in evolution but with all due respect, I did talk to Strike and he refused. His position was that we will be shot at if in Catch. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante

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