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HC CEO
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Posted - 2004.01.12 06:16:00 -
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Unfortunately sometimes people just don't a give a damn.
Today, Colossus Technologies left the XETIC alliance to fight along side CA. Evolution and in the past and sections of SA working with Everlasting Vendetta had wronged them by blowning up their ships. I'm sure Evolution expected nothing less and now they have another enemy, as does SA. Congratulations.
I would also like to acknowledge Evolution for putting the entire Xetic/IF group, including our fine corp, on their KOS list. Please do not try to justify your puerile actions. Its is common knowledge you have been the aggressors and you have stated in public you cared little for right or wrong or public image. Its obvious to all that we have tried very hard to avoid conflict and it is satisfying that it is the aggressor himself that has also began the war.
Up till now we have been lossing ships in a vain hope to avoid conflict but we have little choice now. You now have 500 or so pilots that will be adding you to their KOS lists. A list you never had to be on had you simply treated us the same way we have been treating you.
I'm sure you expected nothing less.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.01.12 06:27:00 -
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I would personally like to welcome Colossus Technologies into the CA and wish the Xetic Alliance the very best in their battle against Evol.
I think the series of hostile acts against Xetic by Evol shows everyone quite clearly who the REAL pirates in EvE are....
Again good luck and welcome
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.01.12 06:34:00 -
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Welcome by the 'good' guys.
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.12 07:19:00 -
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Which corp are you actually from?
It sounds like you're from Colossus Tech, but your name would suggest otherwise.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2004.01.12 07:20:00 -
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Edited by: Homo Erectus on 12/01/2004 07:27:20
it's obvious, clearly, everyone knows, it's common knowledge and it's clear are cool things to say when you are about to introduce facts.
you don't know what is factual and what isn't.
in other news, we welcome CT to the CA and will be targetting your ships in other area's of space that catch/stain/curse now.
btw srry for edit but:
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You now have 500 or so pilots that will be adding you to their KOS lists.
ROFLROFLLLFORFLROFOMFGGGGG
yes, im sure.
YOPU JUST H\GOT YOURSELF 187316 PILOTS ADDING YOU TO THEIR KOS LISTS HC CEO. K? BE AFRAID PLZPLZPLZ
HOMO I AM SOMEBODY...SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE IN CAREBEAR REALM DARE SAY, YOUR A GREIFER WHO IS A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND! YOU NEED TO WAKE FROM YOUR DILUSION THAT EVERYONE LIKES YOU AND THAT YOUR THE MASTER OF EVE.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.12 07:26:00 -
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Unfortunately sometimes people just don't a give a damn.
Pretty much
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.01.12 07:42:00 -
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in other news, we welcome CT to the CA and will be targetting your ships in other area's of space that catch/stain/curse now.
stop dreaming you can beat the kill ratio of the CFS Navy ...
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.12 07:43:00 -
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stop dreaming you can beat the kill ratio of the CFS Navy ...
Yeah, wonder what our kill ratio was yesterday?
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 07:55:00 -
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Maiwenn LeBesco - Hegemonic Core, part of XETIC.
ProphetGuru - Apathy looks cool huh 
Homo Erectus -
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you don't know what is factual and what isn't.
hehe...yes, I obviously don't know and you do. Sounds like the beginning of a justification. Though evolution didn't care?
You KOS is mighty fat now...just like a pirate corp.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2004.01.12 08:25:00 -
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Primer, you can't back up your mouth.
You use all of the stretch phrases that I made examples of, and then further to sounds like afterwards. no, it doens't 'sound like'.
the only part you got right was
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I obviously don't know and you do.
just like a pirate corp...
No, newbie. A pirate corp wouldn't tell people to stay the hell away from them because they fire on unknowns. They would rather have the unknowns come, to be fired on.
And, we told you and everyone else, to stay away from where the war was raging.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.12 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: ProphetGuru on 12/01/2004 08:27:18
OMG. You are so right. We are evil. I am so happy you have brought this matter forward!! We will all be canceling our accounts immediately.
Guess what bub. We've been on far more impressive kos lists then yours. Your threat of being on a 500person kos list is much like your alliance, a joke. 500 more targets is a good thing  however, the reality is, we will fight on our terms, not yours.
I am quite sure however, that CA will be rejoicing that they will have 500 more people to deal with our huge fleet of 20 that we usually bring to battle. Between 900 of you, you can't lose right :)
Btw, yes, I am arrogant.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2004.01.12 08:37:00 -
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We told you that to avoid losses, stay out of warzones. You kept going into them.
We told you that you could have asked us if it was safe. You didn't and got repeatedly killed.
We told you to stay away from us to avoid deaths. I guess that was too hard.
Now you have resolved to take an action that will cost you even more ships than before.
I cannot understand the logic.
"Leaving" XETIC is an unabashed tactic the same as people leaving their corporations in empire space to have the police fight for them. This tells us that you will use your mains to fight while your alts remain in XETIC.
You didn't try all that you could to avoid a fight Xenius. In fact, the only thing you really did try was to present causus bellum after repeated lapses of judgement that resulted in losses. You wanted justification for declaring hostility to us from the first time that your own negligence caused your own death.
It is apparent that your pride suffered because we treated you just like how we would treat any other person. Everything afterward were just set pieces to use for your justification. This is why your members never did know any better than to jump into death zones or to contact us prior to going into them. I'd hazard a guess you told them that we had a NAP with XETIC because Stain had a NAP with XETIC and to not fear hostilities from any sides in the Curse conflict if only to increase their angst after they inevitably get killed for being in a warzone.
There are many many corporations out there who are on good terms with us. It is surprisingly easy to be on good terms with us that those who are not make a conscious effort to be that way for whatever reason they have.
These are all choices that you make, I leave you to them.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.12 08:44:00 -
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CA accuse EV of never being in the warzone yet we've managed to destroy enough Colosssus Technology ships that you've joined the dark side?
Or was Everlasting Vendetta's name thrown in simply because we're seen as the "bad guys of Stain"?
I'm an active pilot in Catch and I can tell you now that I've been extremely careful in not killing Xetic - ask many of the members of Matari Backbone or X-Trading.
these guys tend to say "HI, XETIC member coming through" which is great - saves a lot of hassle opening that god-forsaken show info screen.
However, you've made your decision and I'll gladly blow the **** out of you now.
Thank you.
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Bas Rutten
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Posted - 2004.01.12 09:13:00 -
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Edited by: Bas Rutten on 12/01/2004 09:21:26
One thing I remember ... in every CA blockade I took part of, even with enemy ships camping another gate IN the same system, whenever a Xetic guy jumped in, we were repeatedly told not to fire and guess what happened? The Xetic guy passed. It's not that there are accidental deaths in Eve right?
*Edit* Jeez how come I always forget something ... ok, I already see someone write ... there are many ways of dying accidentally ... yes, but it requires some stupidity by the one firing no? Or ... carelessness (right click - lock target - activate weapons ... continue firing ... locking on pod) ... so WTF are you Evol/SA guys on about?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.12 09:23:00 -
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Show Info is too slow - that's the whole problem.
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Caldarian Princess
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Posted - 2004.01.12 09:58:00 -
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First, i want to say that i am not interesting in another flame thread but i want to question some conclusions EVOL members did here.
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We told you that to avoid losses, stay out of warzones. You kept going into them.
Ok, thats your philosophy and you want to teach us the lesson: flying through a warzone is dangerous.
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We told you that you could have asked us if it was safe. You didn't and got repeatedly killed.
Hmm... as Stain forces and curse forces know as we always post to the local that xetic/if is in the system and want to pass the warzone... Both parties answer and hardly occurs.
Ok you told us that you lost one indu... last week as justification for your attacks.
Shrike shot me down on October 30th the first time ;) I dont want to cry but i dont understand your logic...
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We told you to stay away from us to avoid deaths. I guess that was too hard.
Ok, we tried our best to evade you but why did you enter Immensea with about ten ships to fight us? Was this a reaction of the shot down of your one and only indu? Please explain this.
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"Leaving" XETIC is an unabashed tactic the same as people leaving their corporations in empire space to have the police fight for them. This tells us that you will use your mains to fight while your alts remain in XETIC.
Sorry, that simply is not true.
I hope you understand all my sentences... please
no flaming and no insults.
I am just a basic member of a IF corp and want to bring some light into the darkness.
Greetings
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Drutort
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:07:00 -
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Show Info is too slow - that's the whole problem.
yar it is thats why we need quickinfo
all that extra loading stuff you dont need at all some times... it just slows showinfo so MUCH this quickinfo could be configured and could be even turned off etc... it would be quite fast IMO if done right and would be soo damn cool 
support Idea: QuickInfo an alternative to ShowInfo
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:27:00 -
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We told you that to avoid losses, stay out of warzones. You kept going into them.
Indeed we did and still do.
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We told you that you could have asked us if it was safe. You didn't and got repeatedly killed.
No you didn't. You said to get out of the warzone or be shot.
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We told you to stay away from us to avoid deaths. I guess that was too hard.
Yes, many indies died. Many at jumping points like mine without any warning but then we should of not been there.
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Now you have resolved to take an action that will cost you even more ships than before.
Umm... -10 rating is on our corp you hypocrite. We have not changed ours yet.
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I cannot understand the logic.
Obiviously. You see sometimes, people don't get threatened into leaving any area you decide to move to.
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"Leaving" XETIC is an unabashed tactic the same as people leaving their corporations in empire space to have the police fight for them. This tells us that you will use your mains to fight while your alts remain in XETIC.
Er...that logic again is killing you. Why would we do that?
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You didn't try all that you could to avoid a fight Xenius.
What complete and utter nonsense. Your the ones shooting, we have been the ones trying to avoid war, we are the ones with the -10 rating and on your KOS list and we did not do enough. What amazing logic.
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In fact, the only thing you really did try was to present causus bellum after repeated lapses of judgement that resulted in losses. You wanted justification for declaring hostility to us from the first time that your own negligence caused your own death.
Oh thats rich. We er..deliberately got blown up in our ark filled indies so we could declare war on you more legitamately. That would explain why we are -10 on your standing huh and ours are neutral towards you still. Can this get anymore laughable.
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It is apparent that your pride suffered because we treated you just like how we would treat any other person. Everything afterward were just set pieces to use for your justification. This is why your members never did know any better than to jump into death zones or to contact us prior to going into them. I'd hazard a guess you told them that we had a NAP with XETIC because Stain had a NAP with XETIC and to not fear hostilities from any sides in the Curse conflict if only to increase their angst after they inevitably get killed for being in a warzone.
I'm pleased to see evolution is coming here in hordes trying to justify themselves yet again out of a hopelessly self evidence situation. The fact is that your KOS list is getting longer and longer which illustrate how seriously people take your 'warzone' argument. We decided to stay and ignore your threats for us to leave, you fired upon us in returned and have now put us on YOUR kos list.
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There are many many corporations out there who are on good terms with us. It is surprisingly easy to be on good terms with us that those who are not make a conscious effort to be that way for whatever reason they have.
Firstly, we tried this path. I contact strike to simple allow us to coexist here and told him I would ignore the current lose of indies. He told me to get out. The only way was to leave the region or fight CA.
Let me say another thing. For a corp that really does not care, I've never seen anyone post as much pathetic dribble trying to justify their violence towards others than evolution. You just keep fattening up that KOS list.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:28:00 -
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u were told countless times to stop warping to gates ALONGSIDE CA ships but u never took any notice. You still carried on when we told u that we would shoot your ships aswell if we saw them warping around with CA ships, but u still carried on.
I guess u actually joined the CA along time ago but tried to stay neutral by using a another alliance as cover
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:41:00 -
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u were told countless times to stop warping to gates ALONGSIDE CA ships but u never took any notice. You still carried on when we told u that we would shoot your ships aswell if we saw them warping around with CA ships, but u still carried on.
Oh..our indies now warp alongside CA ships and thats why they got shot. This is really getting desperate.
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I guess u actually joined the CA along time ago but tried to stay neutral by using a another alliance as cover
Your guessing is obvious not your best talent. What SA ships have we killed smart guy?
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:47:00 -
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I just find it very suspicious how often a Xetic "trader" will enter one of our camped systems and take an inordinate amount of time passing through.
That's taking into account the slowness of the indy.
Another worrying thing occured yesterday. I logged into U-Q and saw a nice SA presence there. I asked, in local, if they knew what the CA presence was like in Curse but, before any of SA could answer, a Matari Backbone member answered that "everything was clear upto V-UIEL".
Surely neutrality requires your members NOT to answer such questions?
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:57:00 -
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Eve is a pretty funny game. So much politix...
Anyways, back to the point: Blah blah we shot you, blah blah you didnt like it so you blah blah shot us back blah blah we are gonna shoot you some more now and blah blah you're going to shoot back. I've read this story already in another thread somewhere, I think.. oh, something about pirates & grids or something that I probably forgot to add.
I think that about covers it all. See you in space k.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:07:00 -
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I just find it very suspicious how often a Xetic "trader" will enter one of our camped systems and take an inordinate amount of time passing through.
That's taking into account the slowness of the indy.
Another worrying thing occured yesterday. I logged into U-Q and saw a nice SA presence there. I asked, in local, if they knew what the CA presence was like in Curse but, before any of SA could answer, a Matari Backbone member answered that "everything was clear upto V-UIEL".
Surely neutrality requires your members NOT to answer such questions?
Well, he did not give you the composition or location of CA fleets. Don't you think more worrying was the time greenhornet of EV or whatever his name is, nailed 3 indies in one day? THATS a violation
Look. The only this that annoys me is arrogance and clear dishonesty. That MASS pilot claiming our indies fly with CA ships. Did you see that matari indy with a CA escort? Its blatant lies and simply because this guy is arguing for your side, you don't correct him.
Evolution is an corp that kills neutrals when it does not have to. Hence their long KOS list. My aim here is entirely to illustrate this to the neutral corps that don't know this.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/01/2004 11:14:00
Joining CA means guaranteed podding by Evol, SA, FA, CC etc whereas before it meant only Evol podding you.
Can't see the logic behind such a move unless you fully intended to join CA anyway and you're just using this to stir up a lot of propaganda bull****.
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/01/2004 11:14:00
Joining CA means guaranteed podding by Evol, SA, FA, CC etc whereas before it meant only Evol podding you.
So you are the offical representant of all this alliances and corps ? cool
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:20:00 -
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Joining CA means guaranteed podding by Evol, SA, FA, CC etc whereas before it meant only Evol podding you.
Can't see the logic behind such a move unless you fully intended to join CA anyway and you're just using this to stir up a long of propaganda.
We did NOT join CA. Colossus Tech left XETIC and joined CA. We are not Colossus Tech.
This post is about evolution and their KOS list and one gets on it.
I'm glad no one you guys are real politicans.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Mordessa
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:21:00 -
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We told you that you could have asked us if it was safe. You didn't and got repeatedly killed.
No you didn't. You said to get out of the warzone or be shot.
Uhm no, not all the time, I refer you to this post here:
alternative offer
Stating the following:
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Xetick,
As I stated before I have been away for a while, but may I ask this question?
Do you have your pilots monitor local while traveling through possible hot spots or areas near hot spots?
It may help this whole situation out immensly if your pilots did, and if they detect us, announce yourselves to us. If we know you are coming and let us know ahead of time, then it could be possible for us to not instantly lock and fire upon your ships while we are at a war zone.
I advise you contact our CEO and talk to him about a possible agreement in that regard. Perhaps its not too late or maybe it is, who knows but what have you got to loose?
So anyhow, your comment here, of....
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No you didn't. You said to get out of the warzone or be shot.
Isnt exactly true.
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:30:00 -
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Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig
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Temerlyn
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:36:00 -
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Quite right this is pretty much the same topic as before.
We are going through a war zone yes.
A war zone imply's 2 sides
If we were getting attacked accadently by both sides then it would be more understandable.
But again and again its Stain and only stain or evol, or what incarnation you conjure.
As for the nonsense of us using Colossus technologies as an alt corp in CA to use to attack stain. Do you guys work for the NSA? CIA? in all its a nice consipiracy theory but way of the mark.
Colossus Technologies were more of a corp of action while xetic desires neutrality and peacefull trade. AS a result CT got flustered with Xetic's non action and joined the CA to have a go.
You repeatedly say that evol is not part of stain, and its been evol who have been killing our ships. So we efectivly treat Evol as enemies of Xetic. If the SA declare war on us for attacking Evol then all your BS about evol not being part of The SA lies.
So we consider Evol kos as a seperate entity from SA, If SA declare war on Xetic then it cleary states Evol is SA.
As for killing evol we will ask permission to fly through curse space on the sole intent to patrol and hunt evol.
If a Xetic fleet and CA fleet happen to be in the area and attack evol then thats co-incidence and consists of two groups with a common foe. Despite your propaganda about us working with CA. We are not going to take turns in fighting you when we can fight you as one group. But again we will not seek CA's help at all, in fact we would prefer only there permission to enter curse to hunt evol.
Simple as this, if we here about a fight between CA and Evol and we have a fleet we would join in to kill evol.
If we had a fleet and we were fighting evol, and the CA also had a nearby fleet dont be surprised if they join the fight.
This by no means we are working along side CA, infact accadental killings on both our sides may happen do to the lack of comunications.
I think i have spelled it out enough.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:40:00 -
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Mordessa, its always refreshing to see a more friendly view in evolution but with all due respect, I did talk to Strike and he refused. His position was that we will be shot at if in Catch.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Bach
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:46:00 -
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Primer,
This is a most unwelcomed turn of events. We in the CC have been going to lengths to avoid breaking the honorable Xetic postion of neutrality. We do not shoot at your ships and we do not patrol in Immensesea as we respect your postion.
Now with one of your own fold turning coat and joining the CA we have some real concerns. We understand CT's reasons over industrial ship loses but neutrality was never to be an easy road. Joining a war is a much heavier issue and IMHO hardly worth a dozen industrial ships.
How are we to know CT will not simply continue their current practiced mining ops in Xetic space and the benefits then be carried to our enemies in the CA?
If CT continues to travel the same routes into Curse from Xetic space alside now both CA ships and Xetic ships targeting confusions, which do exist, will become more complicated.
We must insist that to clearly maintain Xetic neutrality the CT must no longer have anything to do with Xetic space lanes and should remove themselves entirely from Xetic space. This is the only way we could continue to trust Xetic neutrality following such a defection.
If CT are to leave and join the war they need to 100% leave. This is just an opinion and recommendation. Any action would be up to you.
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Mordessa
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:54:00 -
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Mordessa, its always refreshing to see a more friendly view in evolution but with all due respect, I did talk to Strike and he refused. His position was that we will be shot at if in Catch.
Ahhh,
Wasnt sure if you had talked to him or not, but seeing as you already have.....
Wish things would have been different, but with things as they are, I will just say good luck and see you on the battlefield.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:54:00 -
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How are we to know CT will not simply continue their current practiced mining ops in Xetic space and the benefits then be carried to our enemies in the CA?
If CT continues to travel the same routes into Curse from Xetic space alside now both CA ships and Xetic ships targeting confusions, which do exist, will become more complicated.
We must insist that to clearly maintain Xetic neutrality the CT must no longer have anything to do with Xetic space lanes and should remove themselves entirely from Xetic space. This is the only way we could continue to trust Xetic neutrality following such a defection.
If CT are to leave and join the war they need to 100% leave. This is just an opinion and recommendation. Any action would be up to you.
Bach, thats perfectly understandable. CT is CA now due to their own decision and under the NAP, they are not allowed to mine in Immensea or take part in our operations.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:12:00 -
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What i don't get is that an alliance requests just a simple thing: Passage.
Two alliance's fight and one gives passage without a problem, the other does its best but the party Evolution that comes help his friends can't deliver that safe passage. Call it 'show info takes too long' or 'profitable', whatever you like.
Now one of those corporations had it and strikes back because their shot at, and it's something they planned?
Did they request you to shoot at them? Did they asked you to still target them while they announced their pressence in the system? Did they ask you to come to a non-warzone?
They did not.
Before this war started i really liked Evolution, i also send an request to join Evolution (what they didn't respond on) since in my eyes they represented the top of everything that was combat/pvp related.
Where did it go wrong Evolution?
Oh and im sure i get a message from an evol member that before i wanted to join Evolution i had this in mind and was planning evil plans because i actually hated evolution back then, but i can't help noticing a well trained group only hiding behind remarks that tries covering their acts that are similar to piracy?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:12:00 -
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Joining CA means guaranteed podding by Evol, SA, FA, CC etc whereas before it meant only Evol podding you.
Can't see the logic behind such a move unless you fully intended to join CA anyway and you're just using this to stir up a long of propaganda.
We did NOT join CA. Colossus Tech left XETIC and joined CA. We are not Colossus Tech.
This post is about evolution and their KOS list and one gets on it.
I'm glad no one you guys are real politicans.
My post was addressed to those in Collossus.
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Sandokan
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:19:00 -
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As for Colossus Technologies left the XETIC alliance to fight along side CA, the are not longer part of Xetic/IF.
So the whont mine anymore in immensea.
Xetic members don't have much choise, the only route to get in and out immensea is via catch.
All knows that SA and CA using this also and mostly fighting each other on this route.
Stain and Curse mostly need to pas catch also to travel.
Thats why Xetic has a NAP with both, we don't help any side in there WARS.
Evolution never have got a reason to attack Xetic, telling us to stay out a warzone is easyer told then done. Evolution started with killing Xetic haulers, all under the name "its a warzone" and we kill anyone who travel tru it.
Evolution lost a indy becourse Xetic shot one, thats for them a reason to give us -10 in there standing, how many ships have the killed from Xetic befor we killed that 1 indy?
The route in catch near to Stain/Curse/Immensea is indeed a warzone, but if SA and CA respect a NAP when Xetic is passing by, whats the problem for Evolution?
But the haulers loaded with ark is a easy and ofcourse very welcome for them.
No pirates? i realy have my doubs!
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:29:00 -
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I have yet to meet an Evolution member I didn't hate in seconds. Arrogant, Ignorant, and Belligerent. If I was ever in an alliance with them, I would have podded myself until I was back in the Republic Accadamy.
Colossus, it's been a long time. I remember when Oracle and you guys were close. Maybe we can get that way again.
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Mordessa
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:34:00 -
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Before this war started i really liked Evolution, i also send an request to join Evolution (what they didn't respond on) since in my eyes they represented the top of everything that was combat/pvp related.
We dont recruit.
We dont accept applications.
Invitation only.
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Oh and im sure i get a message from an evol member that before i wanted to join Evolution i had this in mind and was planning evil plans because i actually hated evolution back then.
No not really.
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Bergisch Glattbach
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:48:00 -
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Before this war started i really liked Evolution, i also send an request to join Evolution (what they didn't respond on) since in my eyes they represented the top of everything that was combat/pvp related.
We dont recruit.
We dont accept applications.
Invitation only.
But you like hearing yourself talk, don't you?
sue me!
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Sundri Elaption
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Posted - 2004.01.12 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Sundri Elaption on 12/01/2004 13:08:55
Edited by: Sundri Elaption on 12/01/2004 13:04:02
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We told you that you could have asked us if it was safe. You didn't and got repeatedly killed.
No you didn't. You said to get out of the warzone or be shot.
Uhm no, not all the time, I refer you to this post here:
alternative offer
Stating the following:
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Xetick,
As I stated before I have been away for a while, but may I ask this question?
Do you have your pilots monitor local while traveling through possible hot spots or areas near hot spots?
It may help this whole situation out immensly if your pilots did, and if they detect us, announce yourselves to us. If we know you are coming and let us know ahead of time, then it could be possible for us to not instantly lock and fire upon your ships while we are at a war zone.
I advise you contact our CEO and talk to him about a possible agreement in that regard. Perhaps its not too late or maybe it is, who knows but what have you got to loose?
So anyhow, your comment here, of....
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No you didn't. You said to get out of the warzone or be shot.
Isnt exactly true.
I'm afraid that u have 2 go 2 Shrike, about that, and ask him the facts. When Evolution podded several of our Indies. We contacted, Shrike about the "incident".
We asked why this was, well u are aware of your corp policies, i persume
We were "non-existant" for Evolution, so we told we were here what we were doing there and what we had agreed on with CA and SA.
We told Evolution 2 forget about the indies they shot down, and asked 2 come 2 an agreement that they will not shoot on us.
What Evolution does is only negotiate on there terms, we obviously didn't mett with the terms one of uhmm "Declaring war on CA".
This made reason enough for Evolution 2 keep on shooting on XETIC and IF alliance ships.
"When they feel liked"
Because i must say, i passed a Evolution member and telling me "he wasn't here for me".
So when XETIC reacted by shooting down a Indy of Evolution after they shot another industrial of XETIC.
They sad that the Evolution pilot even "afk".
And them saying that we show up as Derlict and don't say anything in local saying we are XETIC alliance. Confermed here in the thread by SA and CA.
We could have used the excuse of "he was derlict". And Evolution didn't shoot 1-3 indies of XETIC but close to 10, SO DON'T EVOLUTION TRY 2 JUSTIFY WHY U PUTTED US FIRST ON YOUR KOS LIST!!! BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T PUTTED YOU ON OURS, yet!!!!
And i repeat when the first incident accured we sad we could forget about the incident, by not payed any isk by Evolution.
As for Stain, we have made the agreement to not shoot on you NAP and you on us, we honour this agreement and will keep inforce this agreement, i dunno, not understand why u guys are looking for proof 2 brake the nap with us.
Basicly what is happening is here, XETIC is drawing into a war they don't want, but will fight it if there is no way 2 come out of this war, with claims of Immensia and regions below.
As for Evolution, well done u have draw a Political Economic Alliance against u!!
(/emote bows, i know i think already the answer: probably some think like thank you! Or your welcome. Or a reason 2 justive your actions)
This is not the first time Evolution is been seen here on the boards because serveral had problems with there policies and won't be the last time.
I only have this 2 say we will see how long Evolution can and will adapt 2 situations they create.
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.12 13:21:00 -
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Before this war started i really liked Evolution, i also send an request to join Evolution (what they didn't respond on) since in my eyes they represented the top of everything that was combat/pvp related.
Where did it go wrong Evolution?
Y'know.. I was thinking about posting some crap about always having done what we wanted to from the beginning that would probably keep Wren up at night with his hand down his pants.
The truth is, however, that this is a game, and we like to fight. I don't think we've ever made any secret of our love of fighting. Like, you can tell your 500 guys to attack us on sight or whatever, but yeah.. thats kinda the fun stuff for us. PVP is the reason we started playing Eve, and the reason we continue to play. If you really wanted to **** us off, you should probably try to form an alliance who refused to fight.. like an army of ninja ghandi warriors or something.
Yeah, some guys who dont like fighting so much will take it as a personal attack upon their very souls and will wish our eyeballs to be pecked out by the next passing chicken, but hey.. in the end, they are probably taking their computer game a little too seriously.
I can completely see why some people confuse us for pirates, because to those who are not so strong in the area of comprehension, the differentiation is not so clear. I suppose the best way to clarify the difference is that we always have motive, and always fight people who have the capacity to fight back. The ultimate decision as to whether they choose to or not rests with them. As we also repeat far to often, often their only other choice is simply to stay away.
You lose no respect from me for standing up for yourselves, HC. We would do the same if in your position, without a doubt. All I can say is, welcome to our little clambake & pull up a chair. Im sure you know what to expect by this stage of the evening.
Who knows? You might even start to enjoy yourselves..
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 13:37:00 -
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army of ninja ghandi warriors
ROFL ... I wet my pants.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.01.12 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Iluyen on 12/01/2004 13:43:07
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I suppose the best way to clarify the difference is that we always have motive, and always fight people who have the capacity to fight back.
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Of course, those XETIC indies pack a mean punch.
This would also explain why you run your little asses of every time you're not in a clearly superior situation. And whats up with gatecamping 100km from the gate? You get a bit nervous every time you come within 100km of another BS perhaps?
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PIraten
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Posted - 2004.01.12 13:57:00 -
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hello I am a CT member
First Ok we are a smal corp but al of u that know anthing about the eve world know that we have been here sence before beta ( most of us )
so what u c is a maybee smal corp but there will hell of a lot more BS flying alongside CA now
This is wy we did leave XETIC.
Nr1 Evolution dont want peace with ANY one. It is there way or no way at alll.
Nr2 We have lost so many ships 2 Evolution and other corps that are from STAIN during the time we have had a NAP with the 2 of U. (CA and SA)
I ALONE have been poded like 6 times by Evolution and STAIN in the last 2 weeks... (al in a hauler)
Nr3 In al this time only ONE of off us was poded by CA (OMEGA corp), and he was repaid even before his clone was warm... and got a soory mess from them.. (SA never says anything when they do somthing wrong)
Nr4 THIS is the most imporatant one XETIC does not want 2 have war with SA,CA or Evolution, but CT are feed upp with this bull from SA and Evolution. So we left 4 CA...
We are al CA now and will fight alongside CA... If u wounder if we are going 2 help Xetic U can bet yours that we will if they ask 4 it.. But the NAP that CA has with XETIC goes 4 us
The one thing I dont get in al this.. IS if Evolution and SA are at war with CA, Wy the hell are they killing pepole that are NOT in the war.... Do they REALY belive that this other corps only will stand by and say "ok I got poded does not matter" al the time?
At some point this NON combat corps will aly them self with the side that does NOT shoot at them...is this so hard 2 understand?
ANd if SA and Evolution have the same goal
(KILLING CA) wy dont they TRY 2 make freends with this freendly corps insted of making them angry? Will it not be harder 2 win a war if more and more pepole fights on the other side?
I am SAD about leaving XETIC we have played this game sence BETA with many of the members in XETIC and I will miss them al. OH and if u (SA, Evolution) move against XETIC we will help them. SENCE it is in the best intrest of CA ( i think) 2 make freends not new enemys in a war.
soory about my english I hope u pepole get it any way
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Parity
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:12:00 -
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If a Xetic fleet and CA fleet happen to be in the area and attack evol then thats co-incidence and consists of two groups with a common foe. Despite your propaganda about us working with CA. We are not going to take turns in fighting you when we can fight you as one group. But again we will not seek CA's help at all, in fact we would prefer only there permission to enter curse to hunt evol.
so what if the fleet is Evol and SA ? are u just gona shoot evolution ? Evolution and Stain alliance do operations in curse together "sometimes" how do u think this will effect your standings towards SA ?
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Sundri Elaption
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:18:00 -
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If a Xetic fleet and CA fleet happen to be in the area and attack evol then thats co-incidence and consists of two groups with a common foe. Despite your propaganda about us working with CA. We are not going to take turns in fighting you when we can fight you as one group. But again we will not seek CA's help at all, in fact we would prefer only there permission to enter curse to hunt evol.
so what if the fleet is Evol and SA ? are u just gona shoot evolution ? Evolution and Stain alliance do operations in curse together "sometimes" how do u think this will effect your standings towards SA ?
We don't we have not a magical bol were we can look into
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PIraten
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:20:00 -
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Parity
al the times I was PODED when we where in XETIC by SA and EVO, SA AND EVO did target me and shooot me.. So dont give me this "how do u think this will effect your standings towards SA ?" crap.... Evo is a part of SA end of story.
Sence when u are travaling with EvO U shoot at what they shoot at not giving a **** about the NAP when u have.. SO WY THE /&%/&ñ/& should others care about it sence u WERY clearly DONT....?
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:32:00 -
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@ Maiwenn LeBesco:
I don't that excited about anything from EVE.
I just was pointing out that as a whole, I have never dispised a group more on any game I have ever played in 10 or so years online gaming than Evolution. As a group you almost all share one common attribute, utter arrogance. If you would have shown a shred of decency or humility (not as characters, but as players), then maybe this sort of thing wouldn't happen. But then again, thats what you all try to pull off. The oh-so-great (and over used) "we do what we want, to who we want, where we want, and how we want" attitude.
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Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:36:00 -
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I got uber ganked by SA last night..
The reasons I was given:
1)I'm a Matari Backbone member (left almost 2 months ago)
2)I am an "affiliate" of the Matari Backbone, who are friends of Black Omega Security, who are CA.
Apparently SA wants war with all of EVE..
I mean Hell.. any system a single SA member flies through ..is suddenly declared a "war zone"
Given what I experienced last night.. and knowing XETIC's current policies.. I can see why CT left.
Good luck guys..
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:39:00 -
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so what if the fleet is Evol and SA ? are u just gona shoot evolution ? Evolution and Stain alliance do operations in curse together "sometimes" how do u think this will effect your standings towards SA ?
What you want us to do? Your ally just put us on their KOS list. Might of been better to talk to your allies to avoid these complications. Obviously we are going to avoid SA forces and stick to the NAP.
There is already trouble on your side. Lord Zith of the Collective fired on our ship. The collective is clearly SA and yet we have a standing of -10 to them and from Zith own message,
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2004.01.12 04:50:00
Your corp has a -10 standing to my corp and it is my duty to kill all my corps enemys
Another NAP problem.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Parity
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:40:00 -
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Parity
al the times I was PODED when we where in XETIC by SA and EVO, SA AND EVO did target me and shooot me.. So dont give me this "how do u think this will effect your standings towards SA ?" crap.... Evo is a part of SA end of story.
Sence when u are travaling with EvO U shoot at what they shoot at not giving a **** about the NAP when u have.. SO WY THE /&%/&ñ/& should others care about it sence u WERY clearly DONT....?
i have killed Xetic guys but i have never killed an xetic guy with an evolution member.
and i leave Xetic members alone at the moment due to SA - Xetic NAP
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Bergisch Glattbach
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:42:00 -
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The truth is, however, that this is a game, and we like to fight. I don't think we've ever made any secret of our love of fighting. Like, you can tell your 500 guys to attack us on sight or whatever, but yeah.. thats kinda the fun stuff for us.
Besides of Evolution liking to hear themself talking I like em for making other people do exactly what they want:
They want smacktalk - they make XETIC smacktalk
They want CT to be prey - they make CT prey
They want XETIC to declare war on them so they might beat em up in public - and XETIC does as ordered.
guys you are so pathetic - they play you like a piano and wow great performance you are.
Why can't you just shut up, shot down 30 Evo ships a week, make em hunt you through 50 jumps of empty The-Man-space and let em decide if fighting a silent war without public attention really is what they want?
But then, its the child who gets the better part of you.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:43:00 -
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I got uber ganked by SA last night..
The reasons I was given:
1)I'm a Matari Backbone member (left almost 2 months ago)
2)I am an "affiliate" of the Matari Backbone, who are friends of Black Omega Security, who are CA.
Apparently SA wants war with all of EVE..
I mean Hell.. any system a single SA member flies through ..is suddenly declared a "war zone"
Given what I experienced last night.. and knowing XETIC's current policies.. I can see why CT left.
Good luck guys..
You're neither SA, CA, or XETIC.
Probably a good reason why you got spanked in a warzone.
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Parity
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:43:00 -
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so what if the fleet is Evol and SA ? are u just gona shoot evolution ? Evolution and Stain alliance do operations in curse together "sometimes" how do u think this will effect your standings towards SA ?
What you want us to do? Your ally just put us on their KOS list. Might of been better to talk to your allies to avoid these complications. Obviously we are going to avoid SA forces and stick to the NAP.
There is already trouble on your side. Lord Zith of the Collective fired on our ship. The collective is clearly SA and yet we have a standing of -10 to them and from Zith own message,
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2004.01.12 04:50:00
Your corp has a -10 standing to my corp and it is my duty to kill all my corps enemys
Another NAP problem.
Lord zith has no respect for anything out there :) u should here us on teamspeak talking him out of killing ppl :)
and i am from The Collective aswell and we have a NAP with Xetic alliance.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:58:00 -
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Lord zith has no respect for anything out there :) u should here us on teamspeak talking him out of killing ppl :)
and i am from The Collective aswell and we have a NAP with Xetic alliance.
Well, thats good to know. Perhaps changing that -10 to a 0 might assist Lord Zith in the future. Make sense to me.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Sequin
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Posted - 2004.01.12 15:22:00 -
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I have yet to meet an Evolution member I didn't hate in seconds. Arrogant, Ignorant, and Belligerent. If I was ever in an alliance with them, I would have podded myself until I was back in the Republic Accadamy.
Colossus, it's been a long time. I remember when Oracle and you guys were close. Maybe we can get that way again.
Hey:(
CT: Haha, we made you quit an alliance you've been apart of since beta, i'm sorry but I find it funny:)
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Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork!
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.12 15:36:00 -
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I just was pointing out that as a whole, I have never dispised a group more on any game I have ever played in 10 or so years online gaming than Evolution. As a group you almost all share one common attribute, utter arrogance. If you would have shown a shred of decency or humility (not as characters, but as players), then maybe this sort of thing wouldn't happen. But then again, thats what you all try to pull off. The oh-so-great (and over used) "we do what we want, to who we want, where we want, and how we want" attitude.
Yea well.. I kinda just group you in the eyeball chicken breeders category, matey, & thats ok. Like we've said many times, we don't expect everyone to appreciate or even like the way we play the game. What you call arrogance in your circle of friends, we simply call confidence in ours. Your definition works well for you (keeps that rage inside.. rawr!!), and ours works for us.
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Of course, those XETIC indies pack a mean punch.
You seem to miss the bigger picture, Iluyen. Pls to read the title & first post of this thread once again ;)
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.01.12 15:49:00 -
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Welcome CA, friends.
Oracle welcomes, you into out esteemed group.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.01.12 16:05:00 -
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Actually Josh.. I was in Providence..which as far as I know...isn't SA "territory". If i'm wrong.. lemme know. It's hard to keep up with ever changing battlelines.
I was in the system for 15 mins before heading for the gate..I got no "war zone" warning or info to let me know what was going on.. until after the attack.
I've passed members of Pegasus Mining and Securities for months with no issue..til last night.
I just find it convenient to use a former corp of mine as an excuse to kill me...especially given the fact that they've seen me plenty of times before.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.01.12 16:14:00 -
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OK Children itÆs time to all calm down and have our cookies and milk
First off, Temerlyn, I am sorry, but you are a confused individual and should sit down before you hurt yourself trying to make sense of anything that is said on these boards. Second, please never attempt to use logic in your arguments ever again, as it fails you miserably.
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So we consider Evol kos as a seperate entity from SA, If SA declare war on Xetic then it cleary states Evol is SA.
That is like saying you are CA because you are declaring war on Evolution. Are you CA? Please go sit in the corner.
Second we have Dreamworks over here. I am sorry for you as well, as you appear to be the most confused out of anyone here child. You openly state that you wanted to join Evolution because you thought they were 1337 and you wanted to be a part of it. Unfortunately for you, you did not pass go, and did not collect your $200. Now you turn around and call Evolution pirates? This leads me to believe one of two things. 1- You are just a disgruntled carebear who is ****ed off he didnÆt get to join the club with the rest of the cool kids and now has to sling mud to make them look bad. 2- You yourself are indeed a pirate and wanted to join a pirate corporation. Go join Temerlyn in the corner.
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I have yet to meet an Evolution member I didn't hate in seconds. Arrogant, Ignorant, and Belligerent. û Wren
Wren, youÆre a Minmatar. No one gives the square root of **** all what you think anyways. BTW, havenÆt I seen your corpse somewhere? Go to the corner please.
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SO DON'T EVOLUTION TRY 2 JUSTIFY WHY U PUTTED US FIRST ON YOUR KOS LIST!!! BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T PUTTED YOU ON OURS, yet!!!! - Sundri Elaption
I think you Xetic kids need to figure out wtf you are doing. First off we got Temerlyn over here in the corner declaring holy war on Evolution and pretty much saying we are doomed. We got Primer off in lala land and no one knows wtf he is doing or talking about cause he apparently has lost his pants. Sundri is off trying to see the future with some magic bowl thing, probably some lost relic from RangarÆs closet or something. The CEO of HC saying he has 500 people putting us on their KOS list. Then there is you saying that we are not on a Xetic kos list. Now I donÆt know who it is that runs your freak show of an alliance, but I would hope that you could all get one the same page.
Then there is CT. The fact that they leave Xetic (an alliance which as far as I can understand from what people are saying here has Evol on their kos list) to join the CA so they can kill Evol is a little odd.
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I only have this 2 say we will see how long Evolution can and will adapt 2 situations they create.
You donÆt much about Evolution do you?
And last but not least, we have ôThe Dukeö OMG 10-4 GOOD BUDDY!!! In typical fashion throwing some little comeback no doubt to some earlier remark made in another thread.
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Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig û Duke
I am terribly sorry Duke, but if I wanted a little comeback, id scrape it off the back of your throat.
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Posted - 2004.01.12 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: Scragg on 12/01/2004 16:21:20
Lets see.... your mad because you keep getting shot while traveling though a war zone that you have been warned not to travel though because of the increased danger. MOST of the combatants in the area try to respect Xetics neutrality and don't shoot at Xetic ships. No one I know specifically targets or hunts Xetic ships or mining ops and you are only shot at by mistake in Curse or near the entrance. I know Evol have more aggressive rules of engagement but only in Curse and the surrounding area.
You claim you don't want to be shot at and you want to maintain neutrality. Your solution to the problem of occasionally being targeted in a war zone you have been warned not to enter is to join one of the warring sides. Now at least half the people in the area won't hesitate to shoot at you and many will actively hunt you. Sounds like you just cut your leg off to fix an ingrown toe nail to me.
WouldnÆt a better solution be to just avoid the war zone, keep friendly and neutral with both sides and be welcome back when the war is over? By joining one side or the other you will just prolong the conflict and suffer significant losses.
Oh an no one FORCED anyone to join any war. If you take up arms agaisnt someone in Eve it's 100% by choice.
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PIraten
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Posted - 2004.01.12 16:24:00 -
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Sequin
guess what..
we can always go back if we want!!!!
But I dont think we never will sence XETIC and far most XT whants peace 2 al cost...!!!
Any way This was realy deapley talked about within the corp and NO one did want 2 leave the corp 4 a other XETIC corp..
In the end we al belived that we needed a change. If it was the right thing to do? Time will tell...
OH and Evolution as I have played online games 4 a long long time I can almost bet my as on that non off u wants 2 have a fair fight in 1 on 1, THATS fun my freends not camping gates, shooting on haulers that offers lite or non resistense...
So wy not start a turnument with one on one fights?
Al can join this.. last man standing will be "the master" Until the next game....
OH rules are U blow him upp u win
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.12 16:28:00 -
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OH and Evolution as I have played online games 4 a long long time I can almost bet my as on that non off u wants 2 have a fair fight in 1 on 1, THATS fun my freends not camping gates, shooting on haulers that offers lite or non resistense...
I had plenty of 1v1's. and also engage brain moron. CA out number the ammount of evolution, therefor we are mostly always fighting greater odds.
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.12 16:36:00 -
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Dude, according to this thread we have over 500 pilots chasing us. If those aren't fair enough odds for you, I dunno what else will convince you.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 16:56:00 -
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u were told countless times to stop warping to gates ALONGSIDE CA ships but u never took any notice. You still carried on when we told u that we would shoot your ships aswell if we saw them warping around with CA ships, but u still carried on.
I guess u actually joined the CA along time ago but tried to stay neutral by using a another alliance as cover
OK, I see this getting out of hand fast.
One thing should be made clear immediately.
XETIC has not joined CA, neither has the IF done so.
Only one member corp of Xetic/IF has joined CA because of the continuing aggression by Evolution. That copr is the one i am a member of, Colossus Technologies. In fact the rest of Xetic is still neutral to CA, SA and maybe even Evol.
To be precise, the main reason CT left Xetic is because Xetic did not want a war with Evol.
Well, we do.
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Posted - 2004.01.12 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: XTSTURM on 12/01/2004 17:08:14
To make a position clear!
we allways worked on a "free trader zone" in Immensea and we will stick to our plans!
Immensea was a taff choise because of the Catch warzone and a "no station" area!
Furthermnore we will keep up with the work to have good relations with our neightbors!
As kown we prefer the way of diplomacy and working NAPs.
We have a NAP with SA and CA which is the basis of all peacefull actions in the area. Some will call us "cowerd" because of that thinking. Feel free! We have the ability to strike back if it`s needed but in fact it`s not the way we prefer!
Make ur own decision how to handle our forces in catch. In fact CA had the ability to to respect the NAP with an outstanding disciplin at any time! (even in situation of gate blockades)
That does not mean that we are closer to them then to others but they earned our respect for that!
We will try to keep up our neutrality as long as possible!
side note to EVOL:
Remember Catch is not just a warzone for us it`s the same for you! We knew that the warzone will cause "accidents" but u decided to attack us in Immensea and u can argue if u want, fact is that Immensea is not Catch. Unfotunately we have to react to this incident.
This is the last official statement about this topic from XETIC!
XTSturm
Member of X-Trader Board of Directors
Director of X-Traders Def
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.12 17:20:00 -
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look here is the deal. Its all about trust. Here is a example of what I mean, mr Example XETIC indy comes to gate where evolution are camping, we let him past, he then has the chance to relay info to CA or even warn CA in the next system.
It has happened to us in the past when we decided to let people past. so this time no
Evolution does not do NAP's and never will. therefor we told you to avoid us at all costs or face loss of your ships. thats the deal like it or do somthing about it, either way you will lose ships.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 17:33:00 -
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OK Children itÆs time to all calm down and have our cookies and milk
First off, Temerlyn, I am sorry, but you are a confused individual and should sit down before you hurt yourself trying to make sense of anything that is said on these boards. Second, please never attempt to use logic in your arguments ever again, as it fails you miserably.
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So we consider Evol kos as a seperate entity from SA, If SA declare war on Xetic then it cleary states Evol is SA.
That is like saying you are CA because you are declaring war on Evolution. Are you CA? Please go sit in the corner.
Second we have Dreamworks over here. I am sorry for you as well, as you appear to be the most confused out of anyone here child. You openly state that you wanted to join Evolution because you thought they were 1337 and you wanted to be a part of it. Unfortunately for you, you did not pass go, and did not collect your $200. Now you turn around and call Evolution pirates? This leads me to believe one of two things. 1- You are just a disgruntled carebear who is ****ed off he didnÆt get to join the club with the rest of the cool kids and now has to sling mud to make them look bad. 2- You yourself are indeed a pirate and wanted to join a pirate corporation. Go join Temerlyn in the corner.
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I have yet to meet an Evolution member I didn't hate in seconds. Arrogant, Ignorant, and Belligerent. û Wren
Wren, youÆre a Minmatar. No one gives the square root of **** all what you think anyways. BTW, havenÆt I seen your corpse somewhere? Go to the corner please.
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SO DON'T EVOLUTION TRY 2 JUSTIFY WHY U PUTTED US FIRST ON YOUR KOS LIST!!! BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T PUTTED YOU ON OURS, yet!!!! - Sundri Elaption
I think you Xetic kids need to figure out wtf you are doing. First off we got Temerlyn over here in the corner declaring holy war on Evolution and pretty much saying we are doomed. We got Primer off in lala land and no one knows wtf he is doing or talking about cause he apparently has lost his pants. Sundri is off trying to see the future with some magic bowl thing, probably some lost relic from RangarÆs closet or something. The CEO of HC saying he has 500 people putting us on their KOS list. Then there is you saying that we are not on a Xetic kos list. Now I donÆt know who it is that runs your freak show of an alliance, but I would hope that you could all get one the same page.
Then there is CT. The fact that they leave Xetic (an alliance which as far as I can understand from what people are saying here has Evol on their kos list) to join the CA so they can kill Evol is a little odd.
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I only have this 2 say we will see how long Evolution can and will adapt 2 situations they create.
You donÆt much about Evolution do you?
And last but not least, we have ôThe Dukeö OMG 10-4 GOOD BUDDY!!! In typical fashion throwing some little comeback no doubt to some earlier remark made in another thread.
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Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig û Duke
I am terribly sorry Duke, but if I wanted a little comeback, id scrape it off the back of your throat.
Whoa !
That's priceless deathwing !
I laughed my ass off. No, really.
But on a more serious note, it may not all sound very coherent after the first page or so, but then again Xetic isnt that used to entering forum warzones as we get podded too much here.
Let me clear it up a bit:
1. Xetic doen not have evol on KOS, but will try to secure their hauling routes probably. And since that includes U-Q you might see something happening there.
2. Xetic still wants peace with all as far as i know.
3. CT has tired of the continous loss-v-win calculation most of Xetic tends to make when it comes to deciding on wether to strike back at evolution. Therefore we chose to side with CA.
4. CT will remain very friendly with Xetic always.
5. We as individuals have our different reasons for not liking Evolution much, mine is mainly that they behave arrogantly, use lame excuses to justify actions they'd not ven try to justify if they would admit to being pirates.
However, i do respect their skills, and to some extent their indepent behaviour and strong presence in Eve. To me they are like m0o, just a little weaker and without the balls to admit what they are.
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Posted - 2004.01.12 17:36:00 -
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Dude, according to this thread we have over 500 pilots chasing us. If those aren't fair enough odds for you, I dunno what else will convince you.
Wrong, xetic will not chase you, CT will. CT numbers 15-20 active members in BS's at the moment. The big part of the 500 mentioned before is within XTraders, a true mega- mining and production corp. But they will not actively hunt you anyway.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 17:40:00 -
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look here is the deal. Its all about trust. Here is a example of what I mean, mr Example XETIC indy comes to gate where evolution are camping, we let him past, he then has the chance to relay info to CA or even warn CA in the next system.
It has happened to us in the past when we decided to let people past. so this time no
Evolution does not do NAP's and never will. therefor we told you to avoid us at all costs or face loss of your ships. thats the deal like it or do somthing about it, either way you will lose ships.
Funny thing is Xetic was closer to SA in the past then Ca probably. So this argument is exactly null and void as far aas Xetic is concerned.
I personally warned Evolution that your stance towards neutrality of Xetic ships would drive at least some of us to CA. And now the first corp has gone over. I wwonder how happy stain will be with your lot after you have managed to force an alliance between Xetic and CA ?
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.12 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: sutty on 12/01/2004 17:52:35
I dont think we care. And stains relation ship with XTIC has nothing to do with evolutions therefor your argument is void.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:05:00 -
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So, uh, can we just get this straight. Xetic is staying neutral. CT is not. (just want to prioritize targets)
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:06:00 -
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u were told countless times to stop warping to gates ALONGSIDE CA ships but u never took any notice. You still carried on when we told u that we would shoot your ships aswell if we saw them warping around with CA ships, but u still carried on.
I guess u actually joined the CA along time ago but tried to stay neutral by using a another alliance as cover
omg just kill me
Xetic started at beta 5 as a secret Alliense of TRADE (i still remember how many time we got attacked and noone help us)X-traders , CT and i think one two more corps (loans, ship at cost... free BPc e.t.)
i cant understant why we left Xetic and i am sad... we are together more than a year
is like quiting my corp...  
but i have to follow our CEO
by joining CA unfotunately we have to fight SA and CC to 
we always have seen CA and SA the 100% SAME
but by been in CA region (refiners nothing more) we "alway" know their moves their army and more...
when mobile refining (or stations) would come in game we would have left..
but SA thinked that because we are forsed to use the CA stations we are with them...
one other reason i can think is that some months ago 2or3 50% of CT militery left to go play pirates :) (because of the game - bored to death)
some made a new corp and join CA - others are the very very know 1337 pirates of eve...
(we make the pirates of the future :P )
evolution and some member of SA try to make all XETIC to attack SA (SA have to take a look on that... who force them to do that and kick this corp from them)
thank god diplomasy avoided a full scale attack on SA (NAP again)
but CT cant stand losing indys or ark of 800 milions cost (the carent market price) (xetic is peace peace peace never fight... like in 70' :P ... it have BIG power)
So we moved... but we have new enemys
to XETIC all i say is that they must use the 120 BS we gathered in that startgate the last time... (i have a photo )
CU YOU ALL IN EVE 
ps: there is no big conspiracy why we left xetic and join CA
we are ****ed off and want to kill evolution and the SA people that were killing us...
we have never ever even think of joing CA
ps2: ME CT NOT XETIC :P
ps3: we sould all join together CA, SA, AND XETIC and attack the west alliences
to be west vs east :P big OMG war :)
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The Monk
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:19:00 -
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Its common knowledge that Evol are a piate corp its just they refuse to admit it. I know its been said before but at least m0o admit they are active pirates unlike Evol who make up some role play crap etc.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:26:00 -
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maybe you should visit www.dictionary.com look up the word pirate.
piÀrate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prt)
n.
One who robs at sea or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign nation.
A ship used for this purpose.
One who preys on others; a plunderer.
One who makes use of or reproduces the work of another without authorization.
One that operates an unlicensed, illegal television or radio station.
v. piÀratÀed, piÀratÀing, piÀrates
v. tr.
To attack and rob (a ship at sea).
To take (something) by piracy.
To make use of or reproduce (another's work) without authorization.
v. intr.
To act as a pirate; practice piracy.
Ok so from the above we can see that the relation between evolution and pirates are very much different.
To start we do not kill people for profit. Im sure we dont have a illegal radio station ,
nor Have we stole anyones work.
Therefor I conclude that evolution are not pirates, and that you need to find a better word to describe us.
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Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:32:00 -
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"One who preys on others"
Read the entire definition before patting yourself on the back.
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Main
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:41:00 -
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Its common knowledge that Evol are a piate corp its just they refuse to admit it. I know its been said before but at least m0o admit they are active pirates unlike Evol who make up some role play crap etc.
Hehehehehehe, the only difference between Moo and Shinra and the Curse Alliance, is the truth. Moo have never claimed to be anything but pirates, Shinra still claim to be fighting for the good guys. Don't you actually think about the people you have helped in the past, some of the most evil people in the entire universe. I do hope sooner or later, you will come to your senses and help the Stain Alliance, Fountain Alliance and Evolution fight for the good of the people and help defeat Curse and their worthless allies.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:42:00 -
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yes ? we prey on those who we are at war at. we warned XETIC, they chose not to listen, therefor they knew the consequence's but still continues to ignore it. how is it so hard to avoid us or even convo one of us before hand. instead you seen in local "oh its to late now I am already in warp" or "WE HAVE A NAP WE HAVE A NAP". to me that was always abit strange shows the communication among XETIC members though.
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PIraten
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Posted - 2004.01.12 18:44:00 -
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ARGH
No more talk U al have your agendas I have mine..
Lets play
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:30:00 -
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omg just kill me
KK
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ps3: we sould all join together CA, SA, AND XETIC and attack the west alliences
That would be kinda fun actually
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.12 19:30:00 -
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So, uh, can we just get this straight. Xetic is staying neutral. CT is not. (just want to prioritize targets)
Indeed, Xetic is NOT joining CA in any way. We at CT owe them enough to let that be clear.
Xetic will stay neutral to evol probably, meaning they will only fire when evol is in a waarzone and they need acces to systems occupied by evol.
Also SA (Joshue mostly i guess) needs to know that Xetic will honor the NAP with SA as agreed.
So, from now on i'll leave Xetic to talk for themselves
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Acix
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Posted - 2004.01.12 20:47:00 -
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Man it seems that my corp was not the only ones that have had problems with SA firing on our ships. My corp has fought along side FA, SA, GWP, and many others that are anti-CA. Out of these alliances only SA would be hunting with one of our members and then 10 minutes later fire on and kill one of our battleships or cruisers. We have always been friendly to SA and have turned the other cheek as they kill our ships they know are fighting the CA in curse.
I personally have lost 2 battleships to the SA. To date the SA have destroyed more of our ships due to friendly fire than the CA has and we are actually at war with the CA. Also Believe me when I say that the SA council is basicly useless to talk to about such incedents.
My group hunts CA and holds gates to catch CA coming through the system. We always announce our affiliation in local to all non CA groups. Usually sound something like
"Hello (insert name here) our group is killing CA in this system. You are not CA so we will not fire on your ships. Please do not fire on ours."
This is even after we are able to get info and read the corp description. To date we have only had 2 friendly fire incidents in 3 months of war with the CA that were our fault. One a ship was destroyed but was payed for + extra within minutes of the mistake happening. The second happened last night and we are actively trying to remedy the problem (even tho it did not end in a ships destruction).
So anyone can see the reasons people have to be angry at the SA. But it seems if we are all going to take down the CA we need to work together and find a better way to deal with these problems. SA is the only alliance that my own corp has had these types of friendly fire incidents with. So maybe the SA needs to re-evaluate what they are doing to not have these incidents. The SA is too good of a force to let problems like these keep happening.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.12 20:50:00 -
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ps3: we sould all join together CA, SA, AND XETIC and attack the west alliences
Won't happen - Pirate alliance (FE) have too many close ties to CA.
No idea why
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.12 20:54:00 -
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BTW, we blew up a Xetic indy with "CA mining op" cans inside :')
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.12 20:58:00 -
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Acix,
Your corp. description contains no useful info.
Populating it with some allegiance with FA etc might help avoid such friendly fire incidences.
We tend to work on a "If you don't know who they are and there's no obvious alliance alignment, shoot them" policy.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Acix
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Posted - 2004.01.12 21:12:00 -
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We are non-aligned except for being at war with the CA. It has shown in the past to be useless to have anything in the corp description and talking to people in local is better. This has been proven more than once with the SA guys firing on our ships just minutes after having one of our corp members fighting the CA alongside them. There is no way the two SA pilots even checked info at all or they would have realized that they were just working with our corp just a few minutes prior.
We have no problems at all with FA, GWP, or anyone else. Its just SA.
On a side note if we put in our corp info that we are friends with anyone; and our only connection to them is a common war it causes more problems than it solves. Because we then get lumped into a catagory with your alliances. We pick up all the problems you have with other corps around the universe. Sure we have to do a little more work in the PR department such as talking in local. But to us its a better trade off.
WE will work with all anti-CA corps and alliances. BUT we will under no circumstances pick up your problems in the process. |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.12 21:23:00 -
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Acix, ok. I knew about your corp. being good guys but I'll make sure everyone in SA understands.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2004.01.12 21:30:00 -
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BTW, we blew up a Xetic indy with "CA mining op" cans inside :')
when was that? that's a lie
the time you attack us in the XETIC mining event? i was there
not even 1 CA member mine in Xetic region or immersa after the first week we cleim the region...
the only thing i can think is that we bought that cans... CA market is OMG ... they sell shutles for 1 milion... i still remember buying i giant can for 500k :( from CA market...
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The first and oldest corp in eve!
BadIronTree Head of Production
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Mistress D'Malice
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Posted - 2004.01.12 21:33:00 -
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Just so I understand Josh....
SA has an open policy of shooting neutrals?
Or was that just an "unrefined" post speaking directly to Acix's comments?
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Posted - 2004.01.12 21:40:00 -
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Just so I understand Josh....
SA has an open policy of shooting neutrals?
Or was that just an "unrefined" post speaking directly to Acix's comments?
It's a warzone.
If you're not an ally, you die*
*With the exception of XETIC who 99% of the time are recognised and let go.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Acix
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Posted - 2004.01.12 21:41:00 -
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Acix, ok. I knew about your corp. being good guys but I'll make sure everyone in SA understands.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.01.12 22:07:00 -
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"One who preys on others"
Read the entire definition before patting yourself on the back.
How many other words do you think that can apply to other then just pirate?
Why dont you just go sit in the corner now before you make yourself look like a bigger idiot.
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Mistress D'Malice
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Posted - 2004.01.12 22:30:00 -
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If he was silly enough to post a definition that can be applied to him, then he deserves to be corrected. He was wrong, the definition given does apply to Evol. And to a hundred other corporations.
Dont flame people for being stupid if you yourself arent the sharpest "tool" in the shed.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.12 22:32:00 -
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hands DW a spoon.....
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.01.12 23:31:00 -
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*adds a xetic Tempest to kill list*
*looks at the giant secure cans with [xT] flotting near a stargate*
*would like Evol to share the xetic indies*
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.12 23:35:00 -
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Please keep the replies to this thread clean and friendly.
Thank you
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.12 23:43:00 -
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yes they are Eris please this thread alone. we are all IC
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.01.13 00:33:00 -
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Dont flame people for being stupid if you yourself arent the sharpest "tool" in the shed.
I dont have to be the sharpest tool in the shed. I just have to be the right one. Now go along and play with the other kids in the sand box before you hurt yourself
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p0ma
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Posted - 2004.01.13 08:40:00 -
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Hey:(
CT: Haha, we made you quit an alliance you've been apart of since beta, i'm sorry but I find it funny:)
Yeah that about sums up Evolution for you...
Welcome to Curse Alliance CT. I'm looking forward to meeting your members.
So...Evol/SA... when do you intend on "defending yourself" against CFS indi's..NVA shuttles.. ect.. ??? I hear Jade Constantine's industrial has a named-Micro Smartbomb mounted,.. you should seriously try and avoid such dangerous encounters. But if Jade's indi does happen to assault you, I recommend you keep at least 8 WarpCoreStabs in low slots... to escape tight situations.
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p0ma
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Posted - 2004.01.13 10:35:00 -
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p0ma
When Evolution wants to see your gums flap, we will jiggle out collective zippers for you come come running to. Untill then, id advise you keep quiet before Big Bad Mr.Truth comes by and slaps you in the face like so many others here.
I cant believe you havnt met CT yet and their in your alliance? WOW, well we have met a few, they are actually quite pleasent people really. Sure they talk alot when you first get to know them, but then they come out of their little shells and they are actually quite pleasent.
And since your on here trying to flex some of your higher level brain functions, I have a good exercise for you to do that may help get those intelectual juices flowing.
Can you do a little investigative reporting for the Eve community? Can you ask around CA and see if you can find out how many ships everyone has lost in the past 48 hours? I could tell you the numbers straight out right now, but that would deprive you of the fun of asking the poor little CA kids gathered around the camp fire telling eachother Evolution Ghost stories.
Dont hurt yourself
Oo0o00oh... Mr. Online Toughguy. How many times did you recite that little speech in the mirror before typing it? Your little rant reminded me of that one naaaasty scene in 'The Bad Leutenant' where Harvey Keitel is standing there moaning loudly...mimicking some sorta drunken Christ his little oval blue and yellow pills have him conviced he is.
That scene was edited out from most versions of 'The Bad Leutenant'. You can go back and edit your post as well... I think there is an 'Add Relevent Content' button in the options.....hmm....
Oh and no I haven't met too many CT yet personally, been busy with a few crucial trades in Empire Space FYI. They'll still be there when I get back to Curse though and mayeb even some NVA...CFS....FE..ect... you know, whoever flies around with well-armed indi's that Evolution has to kill in self-defense.
Don't fight it.
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Dukath
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Posted - 2004.01.13 10:41:00 -
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Can anyone give me an example how someone can be a neutral in a warzone? I mean really please give me one example (in real life, yah i know this is a game but still)of a supposedly neutral party that does not get shot during a war.
The ONLY way to remain neutral and safe is to stay OUT of the contested area until most of the fighting is over. As long as the CA does not surrender this is not going to happen unfortunately.
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p0ma
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Posted - 2004.01.13 10:46:00 -
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Can anyone give me an example how someone can be a neutral in a warzone? I mean really please give me one example (in real life, yah i know this is a game but still)of a supposedly neutral party that does not get shot during a war.
The ONLY way to remain neutral and safe is to stay OUT of the contested area until most of the fighting is over. As long as the CA does not surrender this is not going to happen unfortunately.
XETIC Corps have a tag that clearly states NAP with CA and SA and CC.
CA/CC Respected that NAP.
SA/Evol **** all over that NAP and try to play it off as if they have done nothing wrong.
Kudos to CC,...dignity towards allies has been noted. A shame now though CC will probably be too influenced by SA to do the right thing and state an official position something to the effect of "You stupid trigger happy morons....quit using ShowInfo as an excuse".
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p0ma
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Posted - 2004.01.13 10:59:00 -
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You never answered the question that was directed to SA/Evol. All you did was post a bunch of blah, blah, blah that in no way adressed the question.
So0o0o0o0o0o0oooo.... you gonna answer the question or not? How does Evol intend to survive a possible large-scale of industrial class vessels posing as alies?
??
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/me anxiously awaits more blah blah blah, and still no relevant content....
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.01.13 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Deathwing on 13/01/2004 11:20:20
Edited by: Deathwing on 13/01/2004 11:18:28
OK p0ma you are obviously the slow one in the class, so let me break this down for you real simple like k?
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So...Evol/SA... when do you intend on "defending yourself" against CFS indi's..NVA shuttles.. ect.. ???
1- We donÆt, NVA and CFS arenÆt stupid enough to go skipping thru a war zone period. Why cant you figure that out?
2- We are not defending ourselves, we are removing a possible threat. I see a "neutral" Indy flying into the curse region, wtf you think IÆm gonna think? It's carrying cupcakes for all the hungry miners from Xetic?
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been busy with a few crucial trades in Empire Space FYI.
No comment needed child
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SA/Evol **** all over that NAP and try to play it off as if they have done nothing wrong.
Evol have no NAP with the Xetic kids. You are either ignorant or just plain stupid. Please stop as you lower the collective IQ of these boards with your dribble
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How does Evol intend to survive a possible large-scale of industrial class vessels posing as alies?
It doesnÆt take a deaf, dumb, blind, retarded, mute to figure out what we will do. But obviously it is above your level of comprehension so I will tell you. Anyone who isnÆt in SA/CC/Evol/FA that we see in Indy's flying thru Catch/Curse, will be destroyed, plain and simple. I am sure it is posted here numerous times.
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/me anxiously awaits more blah blah blah, and still no relevant content....
If thatÆs what you want, then please, go chit chat with your girlfriends in Curse and ask them how their kill ratio for the last 48 hours was. Either way, all the seats at the grownup table are taken, go play in the sand box with the rest of the grade-schoolers
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.13 15:50:00 -
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I have still to see any reason why CA and to somwhat lesser extent SA can avoid 'casualties' in a warzone when Evol can't.
Also, i still fail to understand why, if SA wants to go to much trouble to keep the NAP with Xetic alive, Evol seems convinced Xetic is nothing but noob miners ?
Strange that SA at least sees a use to keeping neutral to Xetic, which they don't do to other noobs in 0.0...
I guess SA has a reason to keep to the NAP. Wonder if that might be to avoid the kind of thing we at CT decided to do
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.01.13 16:06:00 -
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I guess SA has a reason to keep to the NAP. Wonder if that might be to avoid the kind of thing we at CT decided to do
You mean sit in station and give us The Finger in local? That was a brilliant tactic, guys...
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.01.13 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Deathwing on 13/01/2004 16:43:08
Okies Ms. N00b Alt Lady you got me
really, I am Homo, havnt you viewed my info lately? look at my title!!!
N e ways, I dont need to post intelligently, I just need to post factually and informatively. Which is what I have done in my last post. If you fail to see that, then perhapds you should quit the State Research and Development corporation and enroll yourself into the Hedion University and get yourself a well rounded Amarrian Education.
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and not a single intelligent and mature post from an Evol member that doesn't flame someone
90% of everything posted in this forum falls under the title of a flame, so dont go tossing it just at Evol like we are some uber 1337 ebil bad guys who call people names on the forums.
Dont like Evol? Join a real corp and do something about it, untill then, here is a cookie, now go play in the sand box with the rest of the nublet brigade
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.13 17:14:00 -
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This thread has become a flame fest, thus it gets locked and the flaming posts removed.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2004.01.13 17:22:00 -
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Wow, you got me
IÆm a moron, how ever did you know?
Now pay attention peon, because I am only going to break this down for you once, now take notesàà.
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Alt? Get a clue moron
k, lets follow that up with
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and not a single intelligent and mature post from an Evol member that doesn't flame someone
If its one thing I hate, its hypocrites, donÆt ever slam someone for being a flaming troll who doesnÆt have anything intelligent to say, when you are going to do the exact same thing not only in that very post, but in your next post as well. Thank you lady, you have just reminded me I believe in abortion. Please stab yourself in the face with a Twinkie until all the stupid is purged from your system.
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With all that time we give you running from us through Curse
Yes, we spent all day running from you in Curse. You are obviously the great strategic mind of the Eve Universe. Please enlighten the rest of us on how many ships of yours we killed while we were ôrunningö from you. Are you sure we were not just jumping from target to target thinning down the surplus population of Curse while you tagged along behind us patting each other on the back?
But wait, it gets better. Since we run away so much, we decided to pay you a visit just now in e02, and omg guess what, everyone docked, they all sat in station, talking the smack like a bunch of sand box bullies. There were 8 of us in total in the gang, 9 of you in the system, plus another 7-8 3 jumps away mining who could have come back and re-fitted. It's a good thing you didnÆt though, because knowing us we would have run as soon as the odds were even. Oh wait, they were already even, my bad.
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you would think you could come up with more intelligent rhetoric for a change
Again, I hate hypocrites, I'm serious, how can you even use the word rhetoric? Have you been reading wtf you have been typing your last 2 posts? Give me a break, this like the damn garbage man telling the NASA space shuttle engineer how to build a spaceship.
Now this isnÆt a joke
You have to be the most confused person I have met from the CA thus far, and thatÆs saying a lot. Go toddle off to your research and running around in Empire Space and let the grownups do their thing k?
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