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Dbars Grinding Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 325	Posted - 2012.01.03 21:06:00 - [31] - Quote dont listen to ppl telling u not to undock. Dont be a wee wee baby and fight them. Find people that will remote rep you that are neutral if they wanna camp your station. Also as said above get a lot of ecm and just lololololol. And around 8mil skill points gives u a T2 fully fit BC if not less so the we dont have enough SP argument is void.
Pinaculus Insanely Twisted 128	Posted - 2012.01.04 02:01:00 - [32] - Quote Didn't they fix neutral reps in a recent patch or something? I remember people being all paranoid about it in Incursions. "OMG, HE'S WARDECCED! BOOT HIM!" I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
Rel'k Bloodlor Mecha Enterprises Fleet 49	Posted - 2012.01.04 07:34:00 - [33] - Quote @OP Or you could learn to play EvE. Were are your corps insta undock bookmarks? Were is you corps forums? With ship load outs for combat. Tactics and FC contact info? Were are you provided combat ships out of the company war chest? Were are you alternate staging systems? Have the necessary steps been taken to ship needed things to it? Have jump clones been installed? Let me guess one of you got some corp management skills and decided you can do this.......... The problem here is no one makes shure a CO can run a company or that sead company has any direction or idea what it's doing. See new corps need to do this thing called "work" were you do "research" and figure out how you handle things, like the staggering % of war decs a new corp gets in its first year. I'm positive also that at some point one of you ran your mouth, or did some thing flashy/dumb (bling fit mission ships ect ect) and now you can't deal.
Isabelle Andiun Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.01.04 08:03:00 - [34] - Quote Rel'k Bloodlor wrote: @OP Or you could learn to play EvE. Were are your corps insta undock bookmarks? Were is you corps forums? With ship load outs for combat. Tactics and FC contact info? Were are you provided combat ships out of the company war chest? Were are you alternate staging systems? Have the necessary steps been taken to ship needed things to it? Have jump clones been installed? Let me guess one of you got some corp management skills and decided you can do this.......... The problem here is no one makes shure a CO can run a company or that sead company has any direction or idea what it's doing. See new corps need to do this thing called "work" were you do "research" and figure out how you handle things, like the staggering % of war decs a new corp gets in its first year. I'm positive also that at some point one of you ran your mouth, or did some thing flashy/dumb (bling fit mission ships ect ect) and now you can't deal. What i love is how people ASSUME that my whole (ex) corp is made up of noobs.. the CEO has been playing for a long while and had 4 accounts with hulks/orcas and god knows what else, he knew what he was doing, I wasnt ready for being station camped. Thank you for all your help (directed at the actual helpful people) and friendly mails that I got from some of you :D
Rel'k Bloodlor Mecha Enterprises Fleet 49	Posted - 2012.01.04 08:24:00 - [35] - Quote I didn't have to ASSUME You can't get past station camps, you have no ability to get out side eyes and no insta warps to use to escape, your fult. You have abandoned your corp, this reflects on your CO's choices in emplyes. also 4 acounts do not a skilled eve player make. He did not dodge the dec's nor found a way to deal with the dec's. "how to deal with a war dec in eve online" one put in Google gives About 84,800,000 results if after that you still needed the forums I believe by internet law and the power of the LOLcatz I can say what I please to you.
lollerwaffle Sileo In Pacis 3	Posted - 2012.01.04 08:32:00 - [36] - Quote Isabelle Andiun wrote: What i love is how people ASSUME that my whole (ex) corp is made up of noobs.. the CEO has been playing for a long while and had 4 accounts with hulks/orcas and god knows what else, he knew what he was doing, I wasnt ready for being station camped. Thank you for all your help (directed at the actual helpful people) and friendly mails that I got from some of you :D 1. The ASSUMPTION part comes from your OP. Maybe learn to express yourself better or provide a bit more background if you don't want to get misunderstood. 2. Just because the CEO has been playing for a long time doesn't mean he knows what he's doing or how to handle wardecs. Case in point. 4 accounts with mining **** has nothing to do with knowledge/experience on how to handle a wardec. 3. If you were station camped, it's as much your corp's problem as well as your own ignorance on how to handle them. Why? Because a decent corp would know to instruct its members or provide them with insta-undocks, and if they haven't yet, we're telling you about them here, and that you should make them. tl;dr Get yourself in a better corp cos atm your corp suck, especially your CEO
Othran Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 123	Posted - 2012.01.04 08:58:00 - [37] - Quote Isabelle Andiun wrote: What i love is how people ASSUME that my whole (ex) corp is made up of noobs.. the CEO has been playing for a long while and had 4 accounts with hulks/orcas and god knows what else, he knew what he was doing, I wasnt ready for being station camped. If you intend docking somewhere more than once then you should always make insta-undocks. Really. High-sec, low-sec, null-sec, makes no odds as if you play long enough then you WILL use them. When you don't have an insta-undock and you're camped in then use an alt to make one, copy it to a can and contract the can to your main. "Wasn't ready" in your case means "didn't/don't know what to do" and there's no shame in that, we've all been there at some point. You shouldn't expect CCP to help you out though, and if that IS what you expect then you are playing the wrong game. I posted this in another thread but Agony Unleashed (they do PvP classes amongst other things) have made their wiki public now - Linkage - and you should find all the info you need there to cope with a wardec, assuming you want to deal with it.
Thestarling Repo. 14	Posted - 2012.01.04 12:47:00 - [38] - Quote I'm coming to the party a bit late, but I'll add my 2 cents anyhow Recently, my poor corp got war-dec'd not once but TWICE, and at the same time. It was a confusing and exciting time, everyone scrambling around trying to figure out how to handle it. Our eventual solution was staying in low-sec. Low-sec has lots of money making opprotunites, and those silly hi-sec pvpers won't risk going in for the most part. Only one of our guys got killed and we managed to take down a Tempest that wandered in looking for a good time. So, consider low-sec as an alternative to leaving your corp, or dec shielding. You will be able to continue missioning, ratting, and mining and you might even make more money than you did in hi-sec. Low-sec is very dead these days and in many ways it is safer than the alternatives. Thestarling Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/ Recruitment is OPEN
Rel'k Bloodlor Mecha Enterprises Fleet 49	Posted - 2012.01.04 12:52:00 - [39] - Quote Yes come to low sec. And bring your Faction/DED/officer fit faction ships. I will also except officer fit hulks and orcas.
Odemis Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 57	Posted - 2012.01.04 14:27:00 - [40] - Quote PVPers join your corp to kill dudes Just saw this in the C&P forum.. not sure if it works or not, but it looks legit.

Fidelium Mortis Quantum Cats Syndicate 16	Posted - 2012.01.04 14:50:00 - [41] - Quote Thestarling wrote: Low-sec has lots of money making opprotunites, and those silly hi-sec pvpers won't risk going in for the most part. Only one of our guys got killed and we managed to take down a Tempest that wandered in looking for a good time. It's funny, we actually had a corp war-dec us without realizing that we already lived in low-sec. Unfortunately for them they weren't use to fighting without neutral reps. They made one serious attempt to engage us in Heydieles (our home system at the time) not realizing that most of local was eyeing them as a juicy kill mail. To say the least things didn't go well for them and they dropped the war-dec shortly after. ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon
Flurk Hellbron Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 70	Posted - 2012.01.04 15:04:00 - [42] - Quote Mutnin wrote: Move to low sec, learn to PVP. It's what we did when our little 3 man corp was war dec'd by a 40+ person corp. Never looked back. Don't be wusses and leave your corp it just feeds the the station campers egos. Stupid answer this. Those new players will constantly die in low sec, learn nothing and their wallet will quickly be empty.
Mutnin Mutineers 37	Posted - 2012.01.04 16:41:00 - [43] - Quote Flurk Hellbron wrote: Mutnin wrote: Move to low sec, learn to PVP. It's what we did when our little 3 man corp was war dec'd by a 40+ person corp. Never looked back. Don't be wusses and leave your corp it just feeds the the station campers egos. Stupid answer this. Those new players will constantly die in low sec, learn nothing and their wallet will quickly be empty. Odd, because I did it and died very little as did my corp-mates. I never again lived in high sec always low with occasional visits to high sec when my sec status permits. Simply put, the only stupid answer is the people here like yourself trying to be Space Gandhi in a PVP game. Quit trying to dumb down players which in turn results in the game getting dumbed down. They need to learn how to survive in the game, until then you aren't playing your own game because others will be playing it for you dictating your play.
Fidelium Mortis Quantum Cats Syndicate 17	Posted - 2012.01.04 19:00:00 - [44] - Quote Flurk Hellbron wrote: Mutnin wrote: Move to low sec, learn to PVP. It's what we did when our little 3 man corp was war dec'd by a 40+ person corp. Never looked back. Don't be wusses and leave your corp it just feeds the the station campers egos. Stupid answer this. Those new players will constantly die in low sec, learn nothing and their wallet will quickly be empty. Moving to low sec is definitely a viable tactic to counter high-sec war-decs. First of all there's a good chance that the hostile corp is looking just to pick off low hanging fruit, and once you increase the stakes/risk for them they might reconsider the war-dec, or if anything will be less likely to risk expensive ships if they do come after you. Secondly, low-sec can be navigated fairly safely if you take the proper precautions. Personally, I would rather take this risk than sit in station with a gank squad sitting on the undock. You probably won't want to mine in low-sec but running sigs/anoms and missions can be done fairly safely as a group. ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon
Dunbar Hulan The Flaming Sideburn's Art of War Alliance 60	Posted - 2012.01.04 19:23:00 - [45] - Quote Just move the corp to NPC null. -áThe Sideburns- Always Outnumbered- Never Outgunned.
Flurk Hellbron Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 70	Posted - 2012.01.04 19:27:00 - [46] - Quote Mutnin wrote: Flurk Hellbron wrote: Mutnin wrote: Move to low sec, learn to PVP. It's what we did when our little 3 man corp was war dec'd by a 40+ person corp. Never looked back. Don't be wusses and leave your corp it just feeds the the station campers egos. Stupid answer this. Those new players will constantly die in low sec, learn nothing and their wallet will quickly be empty. Odd, because I did it and died very little as did my corp-mates. I never again lived in high sec always low with occasional visits to high sec when my sec status permits. Simply put, the only stupid answer is the people here like yourself trying to be Space Gandhi in a PVP game. Quit trying to dumb down players which in turn results in the game getting dumbed down. They need to learn how to survive in the game, until then you aren't playing your own game because others will be playing it for you dictating your play. There you go.................. this is not a PVP game. PVP is only ONE part of a whole game. Guess ur only asking for easy targets in low sec.......... lol.
Johnny Punisher Wolfsbrigade 7	Posted - 2012.01.04 20:16:00 - [47] - Quote Flurk Hellbron wrote: There you go.................. this is not a PVP game. PVP is only ONE part of a whole game. Guess ur only asking for easy targets in low sec.......... lol. EvE = Everyone vs Everyone The pvp is the key in EVE, there are better pve games around. The fact that EVE was made as pvp mmo from the beginning is what makes it special. Avoiding pvp in EVE is bit like not shooting in games like battlefield 3.
Sjugar Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 5	Posted - 2012.01.04 20:28:00 - [48] - Quote Do what I do when I get wardecced? Stop ratting and move to curse for some shooting. Badass wardeccer are too pansies to come follow me there. The only downside is that I often like the shooting too much and forget to make isk.
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard 739	Posted - 2012.01.04 21:33:00 - [49] - Quote Been there, done that. I never understood the desire to beat on noobs, unless they run their mouths about how awesome they are at Eve. Assuming you didn't provoke the wars by being stupid, your best bet is to drop corp and keep doing your thing from an NPC corp. Or form a new corp with another character and join it. Also, I saw this thread this morning: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=53139&find=unread
Osiris Jongleur Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.01.04 22:59:00 - [50] - Quote Dunbar Hulan wrote: Just move the corp to NPC null. This. Bads who dec newbcorps on a regular basis are more terrified of nullsec than most mission bears. Having a base of operations in npc null gives you a bootcamp and a place to avoid the unwanted griefing associated with highsecwarfaggotry aka neutralrepdockinggames.

Substantia Nigra NFI industrial Revival Of The Talocan Empire 291	Posted - 2012.01.05 02:04:00 - [51] - Quote WARDECs are tough on new players, and especially so if their corp doesn't have the experience base or drive to assists and advise. It often ends up being a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy because poorly run noob corps make attractive wardec targets for some. I agree that it's a pain, but I don't agree that making tougher wardec dynamics is the answer. Hisec wardecs are just a part of eve-life. They're neither right nor wrong, they just are. IMO the best thing for you to do is to head to an NPC corp for a wee while (you can't get wardecced there) to collect your thoughts, and then find yourself a decent player corp with experienced people who will help guide you doing the sort of stuff you like doing in eve. When I was your age I was member of a large noob-friendly corp in a devoutly carebear alliance. As such we were ripe wardec targets, and sometimes it seemed that the evil-doers were rostering who would decc us each week running. This was tiresome but with the advice of our more experienced corp-mates we each developed our own approaches to wardecs. Mine was to setup a couple of remote mission-running bases and clone jump there for most of the wardec, occasionally jumping back 'home' for roams trying to kill some evil-doers ... of course always watching local for enemies, even in my far-away locations. With a bit more experience I moved to w-space ... where wardecs don't make any difference. Good luck. We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread
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Thrawn Nostur Impulsive Anarchy Talocan United 11	Posted - 2012.01.05 03:54:00 - [53] - Quote Do some homework and learn how to live in a C1 wh :)
Kara Books Hedion University Amarr Empire 84	Posted - 2012.01.06 18:36:00 - [54] - Quote Isabelle Andiun wrote: Hi all, I have been a part of a new corp for about a week now, which was created about a week ago and currently, we have 2 wars going. I have left the corp now (24hr stasis period remaining) because I cant play the game due to station campers. I feel that the 2mil per week or whatever war dec charge for corps isnt enough. I think that the war dec cost should be in relation to how new the corp is as well as member count for the corp being decced against. The same thing happened in a corp that I was in on my alt, which I took a break from EVE because it frustrated me so much (as well as me forgetting that I could just leave :D) But seriously, its too hard on new players/corps because of this Interesting Idea, but it would be a bad idea to go overkill, basing it off of say, how many war decs has this character bin involved in in the past 10 years and how many of them where acts of aggression or being war-decked, then mix that in with, what the average age of each character is in the corp getting war decked. the price could cost less then 1 mill per week for 2 newbie's who couldnt share that astroid belt peacefully, up to 10 million per week for those very few corps doing their best to cause as much harm as possible to everything. This would allow CCP to better identify people who do nothing but Grief (chase away paying customers) every one will grief atleast once in their life, but the dedicated greifers, need to have repercussions risks and rewards, as right now there is absolutely zero risk in running grief war dec businesses.


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