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SwindonBadger
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Posted - 2007.06.08 22:40:00 -
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This is aimed at those who have seen some proper action with alliance fights. If u could hand pick a tottal of 80 ships for an arranged fight what would it be?
Both sides have a choice on points/ or ship class numbers ie 25 caps, 25 bs, 3 command ships, 7 recon/ 10 bc/hack 10 frig/ dictors.
U make the rules, or change tottal numbers. The main aim to train ur fleet to deal with hard battles. This could be done on the test server but would be much better played out with a fight only halting on the capitols( ie when they hit hull they are out since they cost so much) but all other ships can be killed. letting the smaller stuff die will sting but gives everyone the other side u cant get from a test server.
Im mainly looking for people who have fc ed in those type of fights or understood the nitty gritty of the whole battle and ship class uses. If u think it has to be at a poss, so be it and therefore what extra ships for the attackers and how would u start it.
If new alliances go fresh into a war withought knowledge it can cost them too much before they learn how to get stuff done.
So lets say the small rodent alliance is blue and next door they have friends, the smaller furry stuff alliance. Both alliances have been busy little badgers and created lots of isk (enough to throw some about) but very little pew pew experience. They both say lets have a friendly...what would u arrange to train them for harder times to come.
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.08 22:50:00 -
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Depends WHERE.
if 0.0, without super-capital class ships, I would have a few carriers, front line repping class, mostly battleships, all with points, and some snipers, and some light catch.
But thats me.
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Its just a game. Get over yourselfs.
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Dont get too excited now.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.08 22:52:00 -
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25 Titans. The rest is bait.
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Gloomrake Ono
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.08 22:54:00 -
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65 Tempest,
12 Crow,
2 Helios,
1 Sabre,
and a partridge in a pear tree....
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SwindonBadger
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Posted - 2007.06.08 22:57:00 -
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Edited by: SwindonBadger on 08/06/2007 23:00:08
 Originally by: Gloomrake Ono
65 Tempest,
12 Crow,
2 Helios,
1 Sabre,
and a partridge in a pear tree....
are bs still the daily bred and butter ? well I meen I think even then a few capitols might be nice since they seem to be a key in the whole holding space thingy, Even if u had 5 carriers, it adds to the remote repping learning curver
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.08 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: SwindonBadger
Originally by: Gloomrake Ono
65 Tempest,
12 Crow,
2 Helios,
1 Sabre,
and a partridge in a pear tree....
are bs still the daily bred and butter ?
Capitals are still being used more and more, however they are dieing at a insane rate as well. Battleships are the most affordable heavy hitters, just.
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Dont get too excited now.
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Horza Otho
Minmatar
Infortunatus Eventus
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.08 22:58:00 -
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1 titan 4 covert ops scouts 5 dictors 70 t2 fitted sniper BS.
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Enthes goldhart
Gallente
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.08 23:03:00 -
[8]
80 T2 fitted blasterthrons 
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Gloomrake Ono
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.08 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Enthes goldhart
80 T2 fitted blasterthrons
Its on!
seriously would love to see mine vs yours 
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Horza Otho
Minmatar
Infortunatus Eventus
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.08 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Enthes goldhart
80 T2 fitted blasterthrons
I change my fleet to 20 t2 hugins 20 t2 arazus 40 nano curses xD
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End Yourself
Core Domination
Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2007.06.08 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: SwindonBadger
This is aimed at those who have seen some proper action with alliance fights. If u could hand pick a tottal of 80 ships for an arranged fight what would it be?
Both sides have a choice on points/ or ship class numbers ie 25 caps, 25 bs, 3 command ships, 7 recon/ 10 bc/hack 10 frig/ dictors.
U make the rules, or change tottal numbers. The main aim to train ur fleet to deal with hard battles. This could be done on the test server but would be much better played out with a fight only halting on the capitols( ie when they hit hull they are out since they cost so much) but all other ships can be killed. letting the smaller stuff die will sting but gives everyone the other side u cant get from a test server.
Im mainly looking for people who have fc ed in those type of fights or understood the nitty gritty of the whole battle and ship class uses. If u think it has to be at a poss, so be it and therefore what extra ships for the attackers and how would u start it.
If new alliances go fresh into a war withought knowledge it can cost them too much before they learn how to get stuff done.
So lets say the small rodent alliance is blue and next door they have friends, the smaller furry stuff alliance. Both alliances have been busy little badgers and created lots of isk (enough to throw some about) but very little pew pew experience. They both say lets have a friendly...what would u arrange to train them for harder times to come.
How many moons does the system have? 
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scabbsssjr
Gallente
M'8'S
Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2007.06.08 23:14:00 -
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Half a dozen front line rep carrirs. All of them aeon or thantos.
6 Moros dreads
6 hugins (webs).
30 fleet fitted BS (No caldari)
20 Inites with 20km scrams.
4 Recons that are either gallente or caldari
2 Commandships with gang mods.
It would be fun but it would die I bet.
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Originally by: Ductoris
At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
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Maraude Fury
Minmatar
Shadow Of The Light
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.08 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Maraude Fury on 08/06/2007 23:20:03
80 Scorpions
Maraude Fury
Shadow Of The Light
.SOL.
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MaxSkywalker
x13
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.08 23:22:00 -
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80 vindicators ...
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I live of government cheese!
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PirateShampoo
Minmatar
UK Corp
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.08 23:28:00 -
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40 Nyx's
20 Aeons
20 Wyverns
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.08 23:44:00 -
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1 Mauna Kea (his ship of choise)
78 Ibis
1 Loxy rider (cloacked frapsing)
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
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Zumpn
Z Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: scabbsssjr
Edited by: scabbsssjr on 08/06/2007 23:16:41
30 fleet fitted BS (No caldari)
Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with Rokh?
-Z-
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Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:07:00 -
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5 nidhoggur.
5. phoenix
5. moros
20 Tempest.. all gank setup 1 dmg control.
15 Abaddons heavy plated.
1 claymore
1 vulture
1. Damnation.
5. Arty sleipnirs
7 Rooks
2 vagas.
4 munins
4 Eagles.
5 sabers.
Le pawnn
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
When the going gets tough...the tough join Bob.
Originally by: Shin Ra
Didn't u get the memo? Bending over is the new honorable thing to do!
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Drazhar Kain
Alpha Production Technologies
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:07:00 -
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79 Moroses
1 Cheetah (For Cyno)
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DHB FooFighter
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:09:00 -
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Give me 30 crows with competent pilots vs any fleet of snipers and i will win the field every time.
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scabbsssjr
Gallente
M'8'S
Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zumpn
Originally by: scabbsssjr
Edited by: scabbsssjr on 08/06/2007 23:16:41
30 fleet fitted BS (No caldari)
Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with Rokh?
-Z-
Take a look at the two carriers that will be accompaning the BS into combat
They both rep armor and not shield :)
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Originally by: Ductoris
At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
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Hellraiza666
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:17:00 -
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Well it depends
In a lag free environment, i would have a sniper group and a close range group. Snipers go in first, try and clear as much support as possible, and after a few moments the close range group is given the order to move in, also deploying drones.
However, as it stands, in eve atm its better to keep the BS group together at around 150 to 160km. Support takes out enemy support in alphabetical order (or you can order support to stick with the BS and kill any support that gets close) and you call targets for the BS.
So i would choose
5 Eagles (Insta pop them dam enemy dictors)
60 BS (mix of megas temps apocs maelstroms, NO Domi's, phoons, ravens)
2 Dictors
3 Cov ops
10 Ceptors
Originally by: CYVOK
...Very Disappointed, I spent 2 years building a pile of ****.
-CYVOK-
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Theodox Gotan
Silver Snake Enterprise
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:20:00 -
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10 titans
70 capsules
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.09 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zumpn
Originally by: scabbsssjr
Edited by: scabbsssjr on 08/06/2007 23:16:41
30 fleet fitted BS (No caldari)
Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with Rokh?
-Z-
They do poor damage and cost far too much.
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LeBob
The Artisan Fund Company
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Posted - 2007.06.09 02:18:00 -
[25]
60 Velators with civilian gatling lasers. And lots of beer.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.06.09 02:21:00 -
[26]
Originally by: SwindonBadger
So lets say the small rodent alliance is blue and next door they have friends, the smaller furry stuff alliance. Both alliances have been busy little badgers and created lots of isk (enough to throw some about) but very little pew pew experience. They both say lets have a friendly...what would u arrange to train them for harder times to come.
In that situation arranging freighter runs would be more usefull than an arranged fight tbh.
When running gangs of people who arent prepared for a serious war the biggest problem is to keep the discipline during the long hours it takes before an engagement finally happens. Most "noobs" will get bored after the first few days in a large conflict and stop logging in much or will rapidly loose the TS discipline after the first dull moments.
- Gob
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Fist of the Empire
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.09 09:38:00 -
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Firstly you need beer, then 80 naked happy pilotes..
And i would devote them into 1 each of titans
Then dictors carriers/motherships, Eagles and huggins..
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My slogans always gets nerfed \o/
Oh a new one:
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Dracolich
North Star Networks
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.09 09:48:00 -
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There are too few logistics and Commandships in this thread.
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.09 10:30:00 -
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4 cs's
4 dictors
couple cov-op's
couple inties
5 carriers
5-10 caldari and gallentee recons.
5 eagle
rest: pest/mega/mael/abaddon set for 140-160 km
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.06.09 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Evil Pookie on 09/06/2007 10:38:26
5 pilots: 4 ravens, 1 geddon, 5 dictor alts, 5 cov-op alts.
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