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pmacFTO
Caldari The Emperors Chosen
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Posted - 2007.07.25 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Aioa Are you lot still going on about this? lol... Look, on the first page of this thread, the OP says he's chilled out and learned his mistake. Ok, thread over. 4 pages later and you're all trotting out the same old crap.
You all just love typing your sanctimonious dribble.
/signed :)
I think ppl read the first page then respond - not knowing everyone is saying the SAME thing!! And the OP did say he had learned the lesson that you all seem to be so desperate to keep teaching him....this is funny :D
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R3dSh1ft
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: pmacFTO
Originally by: Aioa Are you lot still going on about this? lol... Look, on the first page of this thread, the OP says he's chilled out and learned his mistake. Ok, thread over. 4 pages later and you're all trotting out the same old crap.
You all just love typing your sanctimonious dribble.
/signed :)
I think ppl read the first page then respond - not knowing everyone is saying the SAME thing!! And the OP did say he had learned the lesson that you all seem to be so desperate to keep teaching him....this is funny :D
NECRO - JESUS CRIED A BIT
DKOD - an awesome synchronised killing machine |

Morgann Atreus
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:10:00 -
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"I'm sorry, due to time restraints we only read the OP and then post Bo**ocks. If we were to read the whole thread it would cut down on the number of threads we could post bo**ocks in.
So many threads, so much bo**ocks, so little time.
Thankyou for your consideration in this matter."
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Kharadran Sullath
Caldari IntoXication Inc PioneerX Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: pmacFTO
Originally by: Aioa Are you lot still going on about this? lol... Look, on the first page of this thread, the OP says he's chilled out and learned his mistake. Ok, thread over. 4 pages later and you're all trotting out the same old crap.
You all just love typing your sanctimonious dribble.
/signed :)
I think ppl read the first page then respond - not knowing everyone is saying the SAME thing!! And the OP did say he had learned the lesson that you all seem to be so desperate to keep teaching him....this is funny :D
Alt of SiJira? ------ --Don't get saucy with me Bernaise!-- |

Tamiryth Kerenyi
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:33:00 -
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I smell a troll.
2/10.
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Cornucopian
Gallente Dutch Omega
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:37:00 -
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necroooooooo...... we have like, a million 'i got ganked in high sec' threads already...
kill this one!!! FIGHT THE HORDES! ----------------------------------------------- "Yes... I sleep with my myrmidon. It's nothing to be ashamed of!" |

Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:37:00 -
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Here's a hint - fly a deep space transport in future, and fit it with a damage control II.
Oh, and welcome to high sec. ***
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:40:00 -
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Necrotastic. If theres one type of thread that doesn't need resurrecting, it's the ones that are remade daily anyhow  --------
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Presidente Gallente
Pirate Hunters Inc
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:11:00 -
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Your are ruined when your wallet is at 0 ISK. 400 Million is more than even older clones have due losses in missions or PvP. Learn to live with the +you never safe in EVE˝ fact.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:19:00 -
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You want to take a bit of revenge? Take a ship, fill it with valuables, put lots of Shild HP and fit stabs. Keep rolling around dangerous high sec systems. You will likely get 1 or 2 guys to attack you and die for nothing (a few stabs are usually enough) per day.
Its a nice way to make money, just go back and scoop their loot.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
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Ki Tarra
Caldari Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: pmacFTO /signed :)
I think ppl read the first page then respond - not knowing everyone is saying the SAME thing!! And the OP did say he had learned the lesson that you all seem to be so desperate to keep teaching him....this is funny :D
Yes, but your need to point this out more than a month after the previous poster is not so funny. Please let the dead rest in peace.
Quote: No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse
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Thorndin MacMorrin
Brotherhood of Acquisitions
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Qu
Originally by: Deckard Bishop taken from the player guide :
Originally by: Player Guide
Don't expect CONCORD to keep you immune to attacks or ship losses.
Like in the real world, law enforcers often arrive too late at the scene of the crime, and even though they able to punish the criminal, they can't always prevent the crime.
Well, I think CCP failed to realize something. In the real world, if the law enforcement comes too late to stop the crime, to punish the criminal, the criminal usually never gains a profit from it. Either the lawenforcement impounds the stolen goods, or something else happens to usually gain the victim.
Why not alter the way the in game high sec legal system works so that it is more logical.
You all claim that how high sec pirates operate today is not an exploit. Sure, they lose their ships, blah blah blah, yakketiyak. But the exploit, if you ask me, is not in attacking another person in high sec. Its using a secondary character not affiliated with the attack to swoop in and suck up the cargo.
From all logical standpoints, the fellow who steals the cargo left by a victim to a suicide ganker should be flagged by the legal system as kill on sight to CONCORD, just as the suicide ganker was. Aiding in a criminal act, and all that jazz.
One way to do that would be to make the game flag the wreck of a ship blown up by a suicide ganker as CONCORD protected, or just have CONCORD impound the wreck to be released back to its owner (at a fee).
With the market flooded with minerals, and the prices for ships so low, suicide ganking means nothing today. The system have become so easily exploited in a way that I seriously doubt it was intended to be. Yes, I said it. Exploit. EXPLOIT! Such a nice word to use. EXPLOIT! I used it, so get over it.
I agree with so many other, that this needs to change. Force all those exploiters who fly around in high sec back into low sec or null sec where they belong. As it is, they are sidestepping game mechanics to risk little and gain much, thus eliminating the risk vs reward gambit.
On a sidenote, make the rewards of high sec equally low, so that the real rewards lay in going out into low sec (0.4) at a bare minimum. And I am not talking about missions only, but tradegoods and such as well.
This could easily be handled by increasing high sec taxes to such a point that it would be more profitable to go to low sec. (High taxes due to increased CONCORD aid when the victim of a criminal act, for example).
At any rate, the high sec gankers, exploiting their way through safe space, needs to be smacked back into place.
Of course if we are going to compare EVE to the real world, we may need to make concord much less effective. Since concord is 100% effective at punishing a criminal (it is an exploit after all if your ship is not destroyed), while in the real world criminals often are never captured and punished, but get away with their crimes.
Maybe, to make it more like real life, we should have concord only respond to 25% of high sec gankings?
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Thorndin MacMorrin
Maybe, to make it more like real life, we should have concord only respond to 25% of high sec gankings?
OK, I can agree with that - however, lets make it more like real life - when you get concorded you are permanently banned and all your assets are transferred to the player you attacked as compensation.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:32:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Thorndin MacMorrin
Maybe, to make it more like real life, we should have concord only respond to 25% of high sec gankings?
OK, I can agree with that - however, lets make it more like real life - when you get concorded you are permanently banned and all your assets are transferred to the player you attacked as compensation.
what fantasy world are you living in>? Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink.
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme
Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Thorndin MacMorrin
Maybe, to make it more like real life, we should have concord only respond to 25% of high sec gankings?
OK, I can agree with that - however, lets make it more like real life - when you get concorded you are permanently banned and all your assets are transferred to the player you attacked as compensation.
what fantasy world are you living in>?
EVE Online.
I was responding to pure idiocy with sarcasm. Are you american by any chance? help can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
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Thorndin MacMorrin
Brotherhood of Acquisitions
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:36:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Thorndin MacMorrin
Maybe, to make it more like real life, we should have concord only respond to 25% of high sec gankings?
OK, I can agree with that - however, lets make it more like real life - when you get concorded you are permanently banned and all your assets are transferred to the player you attacked as compensation.
I supose different countries have different punishments for crimes, but here in the USA at least, people don't get the electric chair or life imprisonment for smash and grab thefts. Nore are all their assets given to the victims of their crime (I know from personal experience, had a laptop stolen from me, cops know where the laptop is, theif was sentenced to a short jail term, and I got nothing back, no laptop or any restitution).
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Thorndin MacMorrin
Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Thorndin MacMorrin
Maybe, to make it more like real life, we should have concord only respond to 25% of high sec gankings?
OK, I can agree with that - however, lets make it more like real life - when you get concorded you are permanently banned and all your assets are transferred to the player you attacked as compensation.
I supose different countries have different punishments for crimes, but here in the USA at least, people don't get the electric chair or life imprisonment for smash and grab thefts. Nore are all their assets given to the victims of their crime (I know from personal experience, had a laptop stolen from me, cops know where the laptop is, theif was sentenced to a short jail term, and I got nothing back, no laptop or any restitution).
Read the post above yours.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Tortun Nahme
Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Thorndin MacMorrin
Maybe, to make it more like real life, we should have concord only respond to 25% of high sec gankings?
OK, I can agree with that - however, lets make it more like real life - when you get concorded you are permanently banned and all your assets are transferred to the player you attacked as compensation.
what fantasy world are you living in>?
EVE Online.
I was responding to pure idiocy with sarcasm. Are you american by any chance? help can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
actually no, I'm not, I was responding to sarcasm with irony, are you a rascist arrogant tool by any chance? Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink.
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Thorndin MacMorrin
Brotherhood of Acquisitions
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:52:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Thorndin MacMorrin
Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Thorndin MacMorrin
Maybe, to make it more like real life, we should have concord only respond to 25% of high sec gankings?
OK, I can agree with that - however, lets make it more like real life - when you get concorded you are permanently banned and all your assets are transferred to the player you attacked as compensation.
I supose different countries have different punishments for crimes, but here in the USA at least, people don't get the electric chair or life imprisonment for smash and grab thefts. Nore are all their assets given to the victims of their crime (I know from personal experience, had a laptop stolen from me, cops know where the laptop is, theif was sentenced to a short jail term, and I got nothing back, no laptop or any restitution).
Read the post above yours.
ahh, irony is an art that is not expressed with words, but smilies. 
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No 47
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Posted - 2007.07.25 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: No 47 on 25/07/2007 16:28:40 Normaly i dont bother with the forums but about an hour ago i was suicide ganked in Sinq in my Iteron V. Lost about 20 BPC (ammo mainly)and a few BPO (frigs and similar value) a covetor, frig, cruiser and some gear nothing major but plenty to get me thinking.
Whats the point of industry characters when stuff like that can go on. Im not rich by far so now i cant afford to replace that gear im thinking of selling my Character for isk so i can concentrate on my main account and ditch the second one.
Think hard CCP.. this game is supposed to open to all player types and styles. Something for everyone is what your after if im right. You advertise a safe area for people to move and trade in yet you police it with apathy and neglect. If a player shoots down a hauler in high sec with no provocation or war involved how the hell is it fair to have his corp mate pick up the loot with no reprise.
Not a flame just peeved at unfairness especially when IM paying for it.
Next stop Character Sales Forum.
PS that thing with the cans dont work you can see inside them now.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: No 47 Edited by: No 47 on 25/07/2007 16:28:40 Think hard CCP.. this game is supposed to open to all player types and styles.
thats just it, it is, and boo hoo you have to protect your cargo, they should nerf someone elses play style cause I can't play mine risk free  Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink.
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Herculite
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.25 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Are we going to have these threads every day? I seriously think this is being done by a few alt characters who wants to drive their agenda on the forums, and make it look like a lot of players are being suicided.
And if its not... and you really are genuine - welcome to Eve. Hope you've learned your lesson. You are not safe anywhere in Eve, just like in real life.
I was thinking the same thing. Much like that guy who had this domi army just waiting to pop freighters blah blah blah, after someone tried to kill his. Lets see a KM link or something, I don't buy this.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.07.25 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 25/07/2007 16:37:13 This was dug up why?
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Karunel
Princeps Corp YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.07.25 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: SealteamXI Ah well, cooled off now.
Guess it's time to invest in a Transport Ship, not too expensive at all.
You sir, are cool. That's the correct spirit. ____
Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus The OP regained his senses already on page 1, what the hell are you going on about on page 5, read before you post and then don't!
if you had read page 5 you would have noted we were insulting each other, not the op, rtft  Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink.
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Suzy Creamcheesz
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Posted - 2007.07.25 16:43:00 -
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wow it works in 0.8?
i might have to expand my territory a bit  
     
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Kwint Sommer
Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2007.07.25 16:44:00 -
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Sorry to hear you lost so much but this is realistic and a proper game mechanic. Don't transport more than 30M in something without a decent tank and don't transport more than a quarter billion in something that can't survive multiple battleships for 30 seconds.
Concord provides consequences not safety, only you can do that.
The same is true of real world police. As someone who went to a rather violent inner city high school I can attest to the fact that police don't stop crime they simply deter it by punishing those they catch. If the game were to be made more realistic Concord wouldn't respond nearly as quickly, pack nearly as much of a punch nor always catch the perp.
If you waved a bag of diamonds around as you walked down the streets of New York un-escorted would you be surprised if you got mugged? Why should putting a billion ISK worth of stuff in an easily popped industrial in Jita be any different?
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Wachtmeister
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.07.25 16:57:00 -
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We have gathered here to guide the way of this thread on his last path. May he be happy where he goes now, never to be disturbed again by necros. *click*
Contrary to popular belief he actually has a body -Eldo My body is well trained and I have a sixpack.... in the fridge. -Wachty
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