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coldplasma Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.11 13:45:00 - [1] These guys have been hauling relatively inexpensive goods in iteron V's all day for the past few weeks through the regions Genesis, Kor-Azor, and various other surrounding regions. The members have been around for about a year with no employment history other than the bront corp, which they have all joined at roughly the same time. Can anyone suggest a way to remove these farmers from our precious systems? _________________
Tish Magev Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.06.11 13:50:00 - [2] Edited by: Tish Magev on 11/06/2007 13:49:52 er war dec them? EDIT: Ignore that didn't notice you were in an NPC corp. Hire merc's to do the job for you, for a fee they will war dec the corp and procede to kill as many ships/pods for as long as you're willing to pay.
coldplasma Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.11 14:15:00 - [3] Originally by: Tish Magev Edited by: Tish Magev on 11/06/2007 13:49:52 er war dec them? EDIT: Ignore that didn't notice you were in an NPC corp. Hire merc's to do the job for you, for a fee they will war dec the corp and procede to kill as many ships/pods for as long as you're willing to pay. The problem with these corps is that they immediately disband and reform again once someone war decs them... _________________
Gindar StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.06.11 14:56:00 - [4] Originally by: coldplasma Originally by: Tish Magev Edited by: Tish Magev on 11/06/2007 13:49:52 er war dec them? EDIT: Ignore that didn't notice you were in an NPC corp. Hire merc's to do the job for you, for a fee they will war dec the corp and procede to kill as many ships/pods for as long as you're willing to pay. The problem with these corps is that they immediately disband and reform again once someone war decs them... this is an exploit and can be petitioned. unlike macroing this is easy to see by gm's and a warning will be issued (avoiding war) 2nd or 3rd offense the bannings come Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:07:00 - [5] Originally by: Gindar Originally by: coldplasma Originally by: Tish Magev Edited by: Tish Magev on 11/06/2007 13:49:52 er war dec them? EDIT: Ignore that didn't notice you were in an NPC corp. Hire merc's to do the job for you, for a fee they will war dec the corp and procede to kill as many ships/pods for as long as you're willing to pay. The problem with these corps is that they immediately disband and reform again once someone war decs them... this is an exploit and can be petitioned. unlike macroing this is easy to see by gm's and a warning will be issued (avoiding war) 2nd or 3rd offense the bannings come Half the GM's say its an exploit, the other half say it's not. Believe me, I had some blatant corps doing this for a while until they finally got banned for ISK Farming. (Look up HippySurfer & SOSADQQ) War dec, they all disbanded, new corp. Sometimes even same name.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:24:00 - [6] Originally by: coldplasma Originally by: Tish Magev Edited by: Tish Magev on 11/06/2007 13:49:52 er war dec them? EDIT: Ignore that didn't notice you were in an NPC corp. Hire merc's to do the job for you, for a fee they will war dec the corp and procede to kill as many ships/pods for as long as you're willing to pay. The problem with these corps is that they immediately disband and reform again once someone war decs them... then dec the new corp If they keep jumping corps with the same ppl all the time then petition them for war avoidence. only bother if they have all changed at least 3 times tho. DE
n0thing omen.	Posted - 2007.06.11 15:53:00 - [7] Best thing to do, would be a lovely nerf to such behaviour. Why? - More corps means more space taken on server. - More corps means slower access times to database since when specific corporation performs a task it takes longer to find it in huge amount of abandonded corps like those. - Rather an easy way to escape wars. - Annoying as hell? Possible fix - Corporation leave statis period increased to 120 hours, during wich you still can be shot. - Each leaving member can leave only when 24 hours passed since last leaving member. Meaning a corp of 20 members will need 20 days to disband competly. - Applies only when corporation in state of active war. - Make surrender period 72 hours. Ideas? Comments? ---
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:04:00 - [8] war dec, let them disband, when they all apply for corp membership again, slip in an application, go pew pew all day long. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:08:00 - [9] Originally by: Lithalnas war dec, let them disband, when they all apply for corp membership again, slip in an application, go pew pew all day long. Now hey that's not such a bad idea. It might just work.
M00NStriker Minmatar III ELEMENTS	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:18:00 - [10] Macro Mining is fun, as they work, you take the ore...I've never seen an absent player in a mining bardge attack anyone before...let them do all the work, then take it MMs are you best friends and always have the ore you need without complaining how much you..... borrowed If you walk into a dark room and fail to turn on the light to see whats in the room, you'll never know!
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:22:00 - [11] Originally by: M00NStriker Macro Mining is fun, as they work, you take the ore...I've never seen an absent player in a mining bardge attack anyone before...let them do all the work, then take it MMs are you best friends and always have the ore you need without complaining how much you..... borrowed It's only fun for so long. It's my goal to inflict as many losses on them as possible. Taking out their ships is one way to do that.
Lordius Karaith	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:27:00 - [12] Got about 7 of them running around in our area (lowsec) as well, Whatever the region that Yulai is in. (at work atm :P ) we've just been camping the gates and mauling as many as possible.
coldplasma Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:52:00 - [13] Originally by: Lordius Karaith Got about 7 of them running around in our area (lowsec) as well, Whatever the region that Yulai is in. (at work atm :P ) we've just been camping the gates and mauling as many as possible. Yeah that's what we were doing last night as well. Yulai is also in Genesis, so it seems that this is the region they like to base in. _________________
M00NStriker Minmatar III ELEMENTS	Posted - 2007.06.11 16:54:00 - [14] You guys are missing the point. Macro Miner = no one home to defend Free ore without the boring mining time They aren't going to declare war For us "LIVE" players... its a free ride at the MM's expense. After the belts clear, then cost him his ship..again, who really wins?.. you have the ore, you have the salvage, you have any equipment he lost. MM loses his shirt for the day If you walk into a dark room and fail to turn on the light to see whats in the room, you'll never know!
CaptainSensible XxTiggerxX Corp SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2007.06.11 17:46:00 - [15] Just to point out, these guys are not macro miners, they are macro haulers who all fly Iteron Vs with 5 stabs which makes it tough to get them. As a result when we go on patrol, we often ignore them since it's just not worth the hassle of aggroing them and then waiting for 15 mins when we often can't even catch them. I'd support any corp who wants to dec them.
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.11 18:03:00 - [16] Originally by: CaptainSensible Just to point out, these guys are not macro miners, they are macro haulers who all fly Iteron Vs with 5 stabs which makes it tough to get them. As a result when we go on patrol, we often ignore them since it's just not worth the hassle of aggroing them and then waiting for 15 mins when we often can't even catch them. I'd support any corp who wants to dec them. 2x -3 Mizuro's Modified Warp Scramblers > 5 Stabs
n0thing omen.	Posted - 2007.06.11 19:12:00 - [17] Edited by: n0thing on 11/06/2007 19:10:40 Originally by: voogru Originally by: CaptainSensible Just to point out, these guys are not macro miners, they are macro haulers who all fly Iteron Vs with 5 stabs which makes it tough to get them. As a result when we go on patrol, we often ignore them since it's just not worth the hassle of aggroing them and then waiting for 15 mins when we often can't even catch them. I'd support any corp who wants to dec them. 2x -3 Mizuro's Modified Warp Scramblers > 5 Stabs 2x Arazu`s with 3x Domination Scramblers will do great at even cheaper price. ---
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.11 21:18:00 - [18] Edited by: voogru on 11/06/2007 21:17:04 Originally by: n0thing Edited by: n0thing on 11/06/2007 19:10:40 Originally by: voogru Originally by: CaptainSensible Just to point out, these guys are not macro miners, they are macro haulers who all fly Iteron Vs with 5 stabs which makes it tough to get them. As a result when we go on patrol, we often ignore them since it's just not worth the hassle of aggroing them and then waiting for 15 mins when we often can't even catch them. I'd support any corp who wants to dec them. 2x -3 Mizuro's Modified Warp Scramblers > 5 Stabs 2x Arazu`s with 3x Domination Scramblers will do great at even cheaper price. But requires 2 ships. And I already have the tackler from hell. (10km/s Speedmach that can be configured with 3x -3 scramblers, let's see the farmers escape that)
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.11 22:27:00 - [19] Originally by: voogru Originally by: CaptainSensible Just to point out, these guys are not macro miners, they are macro haulers who all fly Iteron Vs with 5 stabs which makes it tough to get them. As a result when we go on patrol, we often ignore them since it's just not worth the hassle of aggroing them and then waiting for 15 mins when we often can't even catch them. I'd support any corp who wants to dec them. 2x -3 Mizuro's Modified Warp Scramblers > 5 Stabs Voogru the great isk farmer destroyer apparently has as much isk as the people he's accusing of being farmers. Get a grip, man, your average EVE player cannot afford 2x officer scrams, especially if its just to play around with on an Arazu... that is, of course, unless they are BUYING isk from the farmers they are now blowing up. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.11 22:29:00 - [20] Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 11/06/2007 21:17:04 Originally by: n0thing Edited by: n0thing on 11/06/2007 19:10:40 Originally by: voogru Originally by: CaptainSensible Just to point out, these guys are not macro miners, they are macro haulers who all fly Iteron Vs with 5 stabs which makes it tough to get them. As a result when we go on patrol, we often ignore them since it's just not worth the hassle of aggroing them and then waiting for 15 mins when we often can't even catch them. I'd support any corp who wants to dec them. 2x -3 Mizuro's Modified Warp Scramblers > 5 Stabs 2x Arazu`s with 3x Domination Scramblers will do great at even cheaper price. But requires 2 ships. And I already have the tackler from hell. (10km/s Speedmach that can be configured with 3x -3 scramblers, let's see the farmers escape that) Where do you live? I think I need to war dec' you, I'd soon find myself rich as can be. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.12 01:18:00 - [21] Originally by: Karlemgne Voogru the great isk farmer destroyer apparently has as much isk as the people he's accusing of being farmers. Get a grip, man, your average EVE player cannot afford 2x officer scrams, especially if its just to play around with on an Arazu... that is, of course, unless they are BUYING isk from the farmers they are now blowing up. -Karlemgne Yeah, I buy ISK. Go ahead, petition me. Actually a lot of my ISK comes from investments, those initial investments were paid for from using my intimate knowledge of farmers, and using it against them (ie, to scam them). I don't tell players everything I know about farmers, however I disclose everything I know in petitions to GM's. Don't believe me? I don't care. Originally by: Karlemgne Where do you live? I think I need to war dec' you, I'd soon find myself rich as can be. -Karlemgne You can't afford to.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.06.12 01:39:00 - [22] I thought those bront dudes looked macro-y. Will shoot them next time I see them.
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.06.12 02:02:00 - [23] sounds like a war dec plan
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.12 02:18:00 - [24] Originally by: Karlemgne Originally by: voogru Originally by: CaptainSensible Just to point out, these guys are not macro miners, they are macro haulers who all fly Iteron Vs with 5 stabs which makes it tough to get them. As a result when we go on patrol, we often ignore them since it's just not worth the hassle of aggroing them and then waiting for 15 mins when we often can't even catch them. I'd support any corp who wants to dec them. 2x -3 Mizuro's Modified Warp Scramblers > 5 Stabs Voogru the great isk farmer destroyer apparently has as much isk as the people he's accusing of being farmers. Get a grip, man, your average EVE player cannot afford 2x officer scrams, especially if its just to play around with on an Arazu... that is, of course, unless they are BUYING isk from the farmers they are now blowing up. -Karlemgne You can't fit officer scramblers on an Arazu. Not enough powergrid. :(
cocaineblues	Posted - 2007.06.12 02:20:00 - [25] Yea, I believe a bunch of em were running through zatamaka the other night. All those warp stabs no wonder I couldn't hold any of em down. Nothing ****es me off more then a bunch of haulers at the gate and I end up sitting in SS for 15 minutes with nothing to show for it!
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.12 04:48:00 - [26] Yeah, I buy ISK. Sarcasm, my friend, sarcasm. I was trying to point out the ridiculousness of your suggested set ups for your average EVE player for catching "isk farmers." Go ahead, petition me. Oh and by the way, those scramblers only fit on battleships. I'm glad you have the isk to waste on such "luxury." You can't afford to. Oh, I think in your case I could definately afford it. Especially if we're talking a 1 man 3 alt corp that drops all officer loot. Besides, nobody like self-proclaimed scamers. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Malcurth Deathmind Gallente NZ Freedom Fighters Black Scope Project	Posted - 2007.06.12 05:22:00 - [27] Channel: Macrointel Let them have their fun.
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.12 09:33:00 - [28] Originally by: Lithalnas war dec, let them disband, when they all apply for corp membership again, slip in an application, go pew pew all day long. Filed for future reference. Thank you for being devious.
xenodia Gallente Shadowrun Company	Posted - 2007.06.12 23:31:00 - [29] Originally by: Gindar this is an exploit and can be petitioned. unlike macroing this is easy to see by gm's and a warning will be issued (avoiding war) 2nd or 3rd offense the bannings come \ No its not. Trust me. I tried petitioning people for it before, like when an alliance we were contracted to war dec had an organized "corpquit" of all their freighter pilots. They even did a countdown in local to the exact second when they all corp quit and then undocked in freighters to flaunt it. We petitioned, and were told basically "thats tough, theres no rule against quitting ones corp to avoid a war".
xenodia Gallente Shadowrun Company	Posted - 2007.06.12 23:38:00 - [30] Originally by: Curzon Dax You can't fit officer scramblers on an Arazu. Not enough powergrid. :( Yeah you cant fit Mizuros on an arazu. Best you could do is a couple of faction 2 pointers, which on an arazu still have pretty decent range if you have recon trained up.

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