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Tyreal Magnus Caldari Vindictive Behavior THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.06.11 19:56:00 - [1] Edited by: Tyreal Magnus on 11/06/2007 19:55:47 Edited by: Tyreal Magnus on 11/06/2007 19:55:06 I just started playing eve last month. I was introduced to the game by my friend. (he will remain nameless for his protection). I have known this guys since i was in high school so we are quite good pals in real life. He has been playing for 2 years and has just over 6 million skill points. I have a month under my belt and just under 2.2 million sp. This friend plays eve for the fun of big shiny ships and pew pew laser beams. His game play consists of 3 weeks of farming and 20 minutes of flying around in a new battle ship only to be poped soon after. I on the other hand consider myself a more serious gamer and play for the things that make eve fun yarr. Basicly i could sell him donkney ** if i made it sparkly and put shiny lights around it. Getting to the point my friend has no idea what he is doing in this game... he basicly farms up crazy cash and then gets blown up soon after. I am no eve sage but i have done my reading and run the tutorials.. i know how to set up my overview, trained learning skills, etc... (And trust me i have tried to help him... you cant teach an old dog new tricks) To make things worse this guy is all about the smack talk. When i am in system with him after he tries to outrun a gate camp in his hauler... "oh yeah i can make it i have 2 wcs! no worries mater!". With in 5 minutes local becomes "You ers just wait my carrier is on the way" "My titan is at your base now!!!111" "Im going to hack you in real life" He makes himeself look like a complete idiot. Im usally in the system with him at the time too. Not much i can do but keep my mouth shut and apologize for him after he logs off. He thinks he is getting those pirates by ***ing at them and yelling and screaming. He is in fact giving them what they want. In the real world however he is pretty tame... Im the one that causes bar fights! He only goes nuts in game and it drives me insane! Please tell me i am not the only one in this situation! Tell me about your annoying friends so we can start a support group! I like to burn things :P
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.11 20:04:00 - [2] Quote: He has been playing for 2 years and has just over 6 million skill points. I would just give up now. --------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
Tyreal Magnus Caldari Vindictive Behavior THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.06.11 20:13:00 - [3] Originally by: Major Stormer I would just give up now. I think he was playing on and off for those 2 years... he was untill i told him otherwise training skills only as he needed them. ie "i want that gun" then he would train up for it and once complete leave his skills for a week or two untill the next flashy item caught his eye I like to burn things :P
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.11 20:18:00 - [4] Right...wow...damn, dont suspose he considered that if he bothered to keep training he could have capital shiny things? Well...tbh I would let him continue what hes doing, if it makes him happy then all the best to him I guess? Just get on with what you enjoy and dont worry about him --------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
n0thing omen.	Posted - 2007.06.11 20:28:00 - [5] Such mates can get you shot down in pretty mild engagements if you fly too much with them. No offence, but if doesnt like to play the game your way(the normal way), you can just join other corp/alliance go to other region and etc. If you want to deny him from following just find a corp that tkaes you on trial to check you out first. If thats normal corp, he wont make it in. As for rl and ingame behaviour...thats pretty clear that some people, ofc I cant judge on particular matter, but some people feel to 'get off' ingames when they are holding everything inside during the day. Its like if someone would do same in rl hed just shout '%^%#&%&$%' to some driver who took his parking place and etc. Thats purely normal behaviour even tho can be unpleasant in games like EVE where your public image also plays certain role. ---
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.11 20:37:00 - [6] I can honestly say i don't have any friends like that. He sounds pretty annoying tbh. Try talking to him. it'll be hard for him to listen to you considering he's played so much longer. I find his low sp count amazing. the smacktalk is something that is common among players that don't get much action. ppl who pvp once a month or something are often so pumped after something as trivial as escaping a gatecamp that they feel the urge to talk crap in local. I'd say give him a good slap DE
Mrlogoffski	Posted - 2007.06.11 20:46:00 - [7] I would advise your friend to upgrade his clone when he gets podded :)
Zhett Haukes kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.11 20:46:00 - [8] 6.6 mil SP after 2 years? Now I still consider myself a noob and have been playing since Feb this year and I am hitting 4mil now. Wow, just seriously, wow...
Tyreal Magnus Caldari Vindictive Behavior THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.06.11 21:01:00 - [9] Edited by: Tyreal Magnus on 11/06/2007 21:00:37 Originally by: Zhett Haukes 6.6 mil SP after 2 years? Now I still consider myself a noob and have been playing since Feb this year and I am hitting 4mil now. Wow, just seriously, wow... He does not play the game like you would expect... as i said training is something he does on demand. He sees a shiny item and trains for it. He then enjoys it whilst not training anything else. And i have talked him on many occasions... he will not change. He is like this in almost every other game we paly. He will not do any research / follow instructions / read tutorials He has fun that way... some how. I am wondering if you guys have any one else like that. I like to burn things :P
Zhett Haukes kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.11 21:14:00 - [10] now that you mention it, I have had friends a bit like that. I seem a lot like you, when I am not playing the game I am researching it so that I can "catch-up" as much as possible with the vets. I have friends who are quite happy to bumble about at their own pace doing everything "wrong", but having a great time. At the end of the day, they pay for the game just like I do and if they are enjoying themselves then I won't stop them. I will just call them a noob whenever I get a chance to.
Darth Angbad	Posted - 2007.06.11 22:05:00 - [11] Originally by: Zhett Haukes now that you mention it, I have had friends a bit like that. I seem a lot like you, when I am not playing the game I am researching it so that I can "catch-up" as much as possible with the vets. I have friends who are quite happy to bumble about at their own pace doing everything "wrong", but having a great time. At the end of the day, they pay for the game just like I do and if they are enjoying themselves then I won't stop them. I will just call them a noob whenever I get a chance to. I play to have fun above all else! However i am also not a moron... i do not see myself enjoying the game if i lose everything i own every 3 weeks. So i do research into what i am doing. That is just the person i am. When i got my first car i spent weeks looking around and learning. I bought an effcient car.. but something the fairer sex would desire So basicly i balance my "Cookie-Cutterness" with my fun. It depends on the person you are... though maybe its true what they say... Ignorance is bliss!
Tyreal Magnus Caldari Vindictive Behavior THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.06.11 22:06:00 - [12] damn it... why does my character keep reseting to my alt!!! I like to burn things :P
stoats The Aftermath	Posted - 2007.06.11 22:22:00 - [13] Sounds like my friend. I provide the isk, advice, support. She ignores the advice, pretends that I don't give her isk, and decides not to login for the support. She also loves to smack (to the point at which we are very limited on corp selections even though I'm a mothership pilot)
Celestal	Posted - 2007.06.11 22:23:00 - [14] Edited by: Celestal on 11/06/2007 22:21:48 Originally by: Tyreal Magnus He has been playing for 2 years and has just over 6 million skill points. Quote: clesest char i have to 2 years is 2 years 20 days , 33.5 mill sp flies caps
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.11 22:24:00 - [15] My newest alt, of about 4 months, has as many skill points as your friend does after 2 years. Yikes. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Van'Klomp Minmatar KarWal Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.11 22:48:00 - [16] Originally by: Tyreal Magnus Edited by: Tyreal Magnus on 11/06/2007 19:55:47 Edited by: Tyreal Magnus on 11/06/2007 19:55:06 I just started playing eve last month. I was introduced to the game by my friend. (he will remain nameless for his protection). I have known this guys since i was in high school so we are quite good pals in real life. He has been playing for 2 years and has just over 6 million skill points. I have a month under my belt and just under 2.2 million sp. This friend plays eve for the fun of big shiny ships and pew pew laser beams. His game play consists of 3 weeks of farming and 20 minutes of flying around in a new battle ship only to be poped soon after. I on the other hand consider myself a more serious gamer and play for the things that make eve fun yarr. Basicly i could sell him donkney ** if i made it sparkly and put shiny lights around it. Getting to the point my friend has no idea what he is doing in this game... he basicly farms up crazy cash and then gets blown up soon after. I am no eve sage but i have done my reading and run the tutorials.. i know how to set up my overview, trained learning skills, etc... (And trust me i have tried to help him... you cant teach an old dog new tricks) To make things worse this guy is all about the smack talk. When i am in system with him after he tries to outrun a gate camp in his hauler... "oh yeah i can make it i have 2 wcs! no worries mater!". With in 5 minutes local becomes "You ers just wait my carrier is on the way" "My titan is at your base now!!!111" "Im going to hack you in real life" He makes himeself look like a complete idiot. Im usally in the system with him at the time too. Not much i can do but keep my mouth shut and apologize for him after he logs off. He thinks he is getting those pirates by ***ing at them and yelling and screaming. He is in fact giving them what they want. In the real world however he is pretty tame... Im the one that causes bar fights! He only goes nuts in game and it drives me insane! Please tell me i am not the only one in this situation! Tell me about your annoying friends so we can start a support group! Does your friend want my WOW character? Only kidding, I'm sure your friend enjoys what he does (however repetitive)...
Leviathan Brian	Posted - 2007.06.11 23:32:00 - [17] Shovel, bag, deep hole. Good luck.
T'Renn THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.06.11 23:45:00 - [18] Ditch that zero and get with the hero... or something (and no if you're too young to have seen that epic film then I can't help ya m8.) In all honesty, friends are friends and eve is eve. You're not going to be playing this game in ten years but if you're really lucky you will have this person as a friend. The way people are in real life has nothing to do with the persona they choose to perpetrate on Eve (or the Internet as a whole.) I know a lot of people who act like Barney Badarse in the game but if you get to know them as people they turn out to be some of the most compassionate folks you'll ever meet. It's all about the playstyle that people want to adapt. I prefer to play as close personality-wise to my real life self as I can get (except for the obvious sex and gender thang, but I did buy this char after all - and the lady avatars in this game are much much much more easy on the ol' eyes.) What I mean to say is, I'm just as stubborn and outspoken about things in the real world as I am in-game. I like to play as my real self because it means I don't have to feel bad if I forget to switch "into character" if I've had a few too many. "Into character" for me is me - period. To each their own. Don't admonish your friend for playing the way he does. It's a game - why bum him out? Just be there for him if he has questions and join a different corp. Maybe even move to the other end of the universe if you're that annoyed by his in-game persona. That's what I'd do - don't let it affect the friendship at all. It's just a game after all. --
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2007.06.11 23:46:00 - [19] Edited by: Kane Rizzel on 11/06/2007 23:47:10 I'd find a new friend. Edit: but T'Renn makes a good point, if it's just an online personna that's annoying you, move to a different corp
Kyguard Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.06.12 00:40:00 - [20] I used to have my brother playing this game earlier in my eve career. He is not very good at games that require some thinking and strategy so he always asked me questions about very simple things. It got very annoying after a while and he soon realized that it was not the game for him. Thank god - Latest Video
Devian 666 Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.06.12 00:54:00 - [21] I've helped out a lot of players of varying capabilities and note that you don't have to be a genius to play (but it would help). The most annoying player is the one who doesn't listen to any advice. Devian "Don't fly a factioned hac into pvp if you've never pvped before." Mate "My hac got blown up at a gate in 0.5 while I was afk." Devian "You were at war." Mate "Oh I didn't realise that they could shoot you in high sec." He played for 6 months longer than me and had trained a lot skills and made plenty of isk but he'd never bother to play eve. His first pvp he lost a faction fitted cerb and a head full of +4 implants. It's frustrating as he never took any advice from me and then left the game. I heard that Coalition Of Carebear Killers lost 3 cap ships to carebears
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.06.12 02:15:00 - [22] id get an alt into a hostile corp train it up and blow him up repeatedly never tell him a thing laugh at him till he moves on or wakes up
Darth Angbad	Posted - 2007.06.12 03:59:00 - [23] Edited by: Darth Angbad on 12/06/2007 03:58:51 Originally by: Callthetruth id get an alt into a hostile corp train it up and blow him up repeatedly never tell him a thing laugh at him till he moves on or wakes up Yes perhaps but honestly he might have my account info.. we know enough about each other to commit much worse acts... social secruity numbers bank info etc. I would not put it past him going into my account to burrow isk. And the whole pointof this thread was to find out other horror stories of annoying friends! Oh well thanks for the advice guys, im going to stick with him in game as he is my friend. Im wroking on him and eventully i might get rid of the smack... he has givin in to reason and started following forum set ups and reading about how to play (he is reading about it i dont think he is really digesting the material though he is still armor and shield tanking his abbadon with heavy beams.) p.s. dear god i hope he does not find this thread i probally should not have pointed out the forum location
Darth Angbad	Posted - 2007.06.12 04:01:00 - [24] also........ WHY OH WHY DOES MY ALT KEEP POSTING WHEN I AM PICKING MY MAIN!!!!!! this is getting on my nerves!!
Zhaymus Hockhold DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2007.06.12 04:07:00 - [25] Originally by: Devian 666 He played for 6 months longer than me and had trained a lot skills and made plenty of isk but he'd never bother to play eve. His first pvp he lost a faction fitted cerb and a head full of +4 implants. It's frustrating as he never took any advice from me and then left the game. This is a friend of mine, he trains the skills, makes isk, and never flies, just looks at them in the hangar, or just runs missions occaisionally.
Marketcheck2	Posted - 2007.06.12 05:40:00 - [26] Yes I have a friend like this and I'm posting with an alt just in case he reads this. He doesn't sound as bad as your friend but he still couldn't pvp his way out of a paper bag and just doesn't 'get' it in any game hes played. Its kinda cute, but missions are hard enough for him, I wouldn't even dream of pvping with him.
Sicil Fioet Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.12 06:38:00 - [27] Originally by: Devian 666 I've helped out a lot of players of varying capabilities and note that you don't have to be a genius to play (but it would help). The most annoying player is the one who doesn't listen to any advice. yeah, the guys who don't listen and think they know best are by far far the worst.No ay to get through to them until they get into a painful situation and then everyone else around is to blame that they didn't listen. It is ok to be new, it is ok to be stupid because not everyone is the birghtest player out there, but if they are stubborn and stupid that just gets so painful for them and everyone else around.
Grunanca	Posted - 2007.06.12 07:03:00 - [28] You should leave your friend to play his EVE and then play your own EVE. Tell him why, nothing else would be fair. For over a year now I have been driving to school in car, I live close to a friend and always picks him up on the way. He loves MMOs just as much as I do, however he is too much carebear for this game (which is why he is playing WoW). Well, he got this friend in real, who is really friendly and such, and another one I could say the same about. One of the friends talk about how uber leet he is ALL the time in the game and the other one kept on begging for gold (reason: they were friends in real ofc). Of course my m8 got damn tired of waking around with one guy wwho told how much he could beat him up in a duel and one guy who wanted money and stuff all the time. In the end he changed server and told them why and I can tell you, nothing changed in real... Of course you cant change server here, but fly 10 jumps and the result will almost be the same. Also people are not in a game as they are in real. Their role may even vary from toon to toon and atleast from game to game. In EVE I prey on the weak, (not complete nubs, but anyone who could potentially have tech 2 loot) and I steal ore (great smack sometimes). Well, I do use these money to build ships and go out in low sec because I want to become a good PvPer, but I got one hell of a way still to get there. I used to play SWG before Sony decided to suicide nerf-bomb it (CCP please learn from here before you buy that new spiked nerfbat. I was rebel, one of the richest on the server and I spend most of my time helping people. I never griefed people I never smacked, I always went into a battle I was sure to loose, because if I could save another rebel or atleast make an imperial guy die, my goal was forfilled. That "heroic" role was fun to play, however in EVE I guess it would be a lot of fun, except for the 99.9% of the time I would be grinding money for a new ship to be heroic in. So I decided to go the less friendly way. I have fun both ways, and if your friend likes his way, let him, just dont allow him to command your way of playing, thats the day you will get bored and leave.
ReePeR McAllem The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2007.06.12 07:17:00 - [29] OMG awesome thread. I hope this dude actually reads the forums, well perhaps I hope not for your friendships sake. Hell you should just go and give him a biaatch slap as you know him in rl
Terazuk	Posted - 2007.06.12 09:38:00 - [30] loving that sig reeper ~ "BANG you're dead!"
ReePeR McAllem The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2007.06.12 09:44:00 - [31] Originally by: Terazuk loving that sig reeper Cheers m8
Ebedar Gallente Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.06.12 10:36:00 - [32] Tell him you're going to start roleplaying a guy who's a complete arse and use it as an excuse to blow him up and pod him at the first opportunity. Then tell him you feel bad, that you're no longer going to roleplay and that you think it would be best if you went your separate ways in game. Drone Calculator
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.06.12 12:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Tyreal Magnus "You ****ers just wait my carrier is on the way" Heh, my favourite is when noobs are carebears say they are going to get their friends in BoB on to me. That's just hysterical. They can never understand why I am completely underwhelmed everytime I hear it.
Zacheria Malfor Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.12 12:59:00 - [34] Edited by: Zacheria Malfor on 12/06/2007 12:59:03 Awhile ago when I used to play the game with my brother (he has since left the game) he introduced one of his friends to the game. My brother attempted to advise him in how to progress and obtain teh goals he was strifing but disregarded most of it. It came to the situation where he stopped helping him with questions and at which point my bro did answer his questions he was met by comments along the lines of "you dont know anythin, you're a noob". So we decided we wanted to stretch our wings and go for a wander one day, it so hapened that we ended up in his system with a group of about ships and ganked him right in the middle of his corp's mining op. Ah I miss the days of torps fitted to cruisers. Anyway, he then left the game a couple months after me and my bro ceased all in-game affiliations with him. Ok it may sound abit harsh but it was damn funny. Edit: my advice would be to pop him and show him what an actual pvp ship can do when someone with abit of skill and abit of know how is behind the controls. Do not fear the reaper, for death is the only certainty in life.
killerkeano kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.12 13:42:00 - [35] Edited by: killerkeano on 12/06/2007 13:49:27 good advice above, just kill him. though you gotta weigh up the concequences.. if you fly with him doing something like that wud prob destroy your in game relationship. Make sure you know what you want to achive in eve, and whether or not it onvolves him in the game. At the end of the day if you can go down the pub with him and have a pint does it really mattter? it's only a game to an extent huh.
Morda Meyhem	Posted - 2007.06.12 15:03:00 - [36] Originally by: Tyreal Magnus He is in fact giving them what they want. Hell yeah, I would love to find this guy in low sec space... Sounds like fun! Is he your real life friend? If not, I'd just stop responding to his gang requests lol. Good post by the way... Very entertaining.
Shalia Ripper Caldari High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.12 18:51:00 - [37] Time for a friendly punch in the Jimmy to straighten him out.
Mindhack kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.12 21:04:00 - [38] Originally by: Major Stormer Quote: He has been playing for 2 years and has just over 6 million skill points. I would just give up now.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.12 21:10:00 - [39] Edited by: DubanFP on 12/06/2007 21:11:11 Wow, just break up any in-game affiliation with him. No need for it to affect your real life, but i wouldn't want to be associated with him in game. I mean i don't know anything about your corp but if I found out one of 4 Ring's members was a smacktalker I'd give him an oral warning, then if it contintinued i would get a group chat with my CEO and some of our other senior members to see if we needed to kick him. ____________ Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20.
Panch0Villa	Posted - 2007.06.12 22:37:00 - [40] Looks like this guy is transferring his desire to have "stuff" to this game. IMO, I think he isn't playing to play, but to "have" stuff through his avatar. If I were you, I would mention casually that you took up some weird new fringe business, like manufacturing contraband items and selling them door to door in the outer fringes of EVE, or ice mining. Then you could always mention that you're not anywhere near him and it's not worthwhile to drop by. If he wants to follow, lead him into a couple of ambushes in lo sec and I'm sure he'll lose his taste for following you around. RL? I'm sure he's a cool guy, but he just doesn't get it. Be rl buds, but ditch him in EVE and don't give him the chance to really annoy you, and it'll all be alright, I'm sure.
Mr Friendly That it Should Come to This	Posted - 2007.06.13 01:44:00 - [41] I think many of us have friends like this... a friend of mine does the same thing, so another friend and I trained up alts, made a new corp to put them in, and am waiting for him to log back in so we can 'dec him and repeatedly pod him until he either asks for advice or quits Eve. His willful incompetence as a player has annoyed me to the point that my carebear instincts have been utterly suspended. The pity is, he's playing something else for a while The upside is I've been using my alt as a (somewhat pathetic) pirate, so not all is lost. Never thought I'd do that... or like as much as I do Originally by: Sc0rpion I'm sorry, I could have sworn you just told them to stop patching the test server. Perhaps you could suggest another method of testing patches?
Tyreal Magnus Caldari Vindictive Behavior THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.06.13 02:13:00 - [42] breaking news! my friend got kicked from the corp i am in . He was caught making "unacceptable" chat in local. My CEO was notified and removed him. He is going to quit eve or so he claims as he lost all his assets again. Unfortunatly i do not think he learned anything he will most likely be back in a week or so to restart. I like to burn things :P
ZenTex Trade and Research Technologies R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.06.13 02:39:00 - [43] Edited by: ZenTex on 13/06/2007 02:39:09 Hmm. Sounds like me... 2004 char with 6M SP. :P I'm a noob too, ask a lot of noobish questions, (mildly) annoy my corpmates, lose ships noobstyle etc. But what matters: I'm having fun. However I Do not smack. But us n00bs have a function in every game. We are those that everyone looks down on, especially those 1 step up the ladder, the failures. We make those that are not on the top realize they could be a lot worse off. And last but not least, we keep the economy healthy by having to buy new ships and mods atleast every 2 weeks. All for the price of a bit of annoyance. Not a bad deal eh? There's little a sledgehammer can't fix. If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer. If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.13 07:09:00 - [44] People have different motivations for playing: if he enjoys shiny stuff without caring for the competitive element or self-improvement facet, then that playstyle is his prerogative. However, if he fails to understand why he loses ships and makes fallacious attributions and engages in smacktalk that reflects badly on you and others he's associated with, then that's of course a different matter. I would suggest that you tell him the way you see things: that your playstyles are different and can be, but that you don't condone smack, that his losses are a result of his choices and if he wishes to improve, he should analyse his own mistakes critically and have the humility to listen to advise and that if your playstyles still are incompatible, you should play the game separately which has nothing to do with your RL relationship. Amusing read, anyway. ---

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