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Snapp Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:18:00 - [361] Originally by: Gutsani Originally by: Baun How much time have you spent fighting Xelas? They have never meant anything whatsoever. They have never fought for the space they lived in and they never made any attempt to defend it themselves. I would be in for the shock of my life if they even made an attempt to stand up to BoB instead of just leaving at this point. When they were installed in Fountain they were pushed to the brink of death by a tiny group of players before BoB placed conquerable stations. Even then they have never shown any will to do anything of substance for themselves. I don't know about you, but its a good sign that you have found the worst alliance in EVE history when a forum post from another alliance leader is all that is required to completely kill that alliance. I would hesistate to actually call them an alliance, however, as all they were was a lose conglomeration of corporations that wanted to make money in Fountain without having BoB shoot them. If you take away that part they naturally become nothing; which is what you will observe in the next few days. Your history of Xelas seems limited to the last 5 months in eve. Thats all i have to add to it, and my point still stands; Xelas is NOT the worst alliance ever in eve history. They did however fall deep. The fact this forum post is all that is required to kill em doesnt changes alot, isnt that all what was required to start the dead of your alliance? W'll talk in 5 months .. looks around, uhmm.. our alliance is dead? I so came to party! Founding member of the "Gonna Gank a CareBear Alliance"
Alpine 69 Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:18:00 - [362] is xelas now out of "the alliance" too, if so, it should be changed in the eve territorial map Sweet love for the ones that mod my sig <3
Nhaz Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:24:00 - [363] Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Not much gonna happen in fountain, the china farmes gonna get into a npc corp again, the other xelas corps are joining aftermath or AXIOM. I predict that 99 of 100 ppl will still be in fountain after sunday, just the alliance ticker changed. I seriously doubt Aftermath would be accepting more then a few people, if any at all from xelas. Oh and better figure out where are too. _____________________________________________ It's NOT paranoia, If they REALLY ARE out to get you!
Kaleeb Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:24:00 - [364] lol made my day /me waves his pro bob flag
heidrun Caelli-Merced	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:25:00 - [365] Originally by: Dark Shikari From what I heard MC and friends ran into a whole bunch of Xelas macro ratters up north; they would SS and log when a friendly gang entered local.
Resipsa Loquitor Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:28:00 - [366] Originally by: Astasia Orian Edited by: Astasia Orian on 14/06/2007 04:17:45 Note to people who may be interested in caretaker jobs: Recruiting in local channels, mass recruiting sweatshop isk farmers (and bragging about it) and generally being a disorganized pain in the arse rabble may affect your eligibility for employment. After getting to page 2 and seeing this, I didn't bother reading any further. If you got Ast. O. to say this, you did something really, REALLY bad. Let me know if you've got mins you want to sell - I'm always looking to buy! ---
Snapp Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:30:00 - [367] Originally by: Kvarium Ki All of you "coalition" guys can call Xelas all the names you want but if you didn't like Xelas so much why didn't you go and kick them out of there yourselves? BoB wasn't around much when D2 went to fountain and we all know how long D2 managed to stay there. Sure, now you're probably going to call D2 names too. Seems to me there are a lot of name callers around here. There are some good people in Xelas and I feel sorry for them. KK I will bite. for two years or so I have had the pleasure of collecting xelas souls from the region known as fountain. many times as my alliance mate Baun states, we have seen xelas within days of collapse only to have thier masters arrive and save them. I would also like to state, that Fountain is a primarily NPC region, ie. if someone really doesn't want to leave they do not have to. just live out of the npc stations simple. and as for when D2 were in fountain, the remainder of the coallition were busy in querious, wich curiously found us facing DD's and such as BoB saved fix. they did a pretty good job too, it takes some doing to move fleets all the way across the map 2 - 3 times a day putting out the fires, but this isn't our story, Xelas have never deserved the Region, Never offered resistance, and in general were wieghed, measured and found lacking. I so came to party! Founding member of the "Gonna Gank a CareBear Alliance"
Snapp Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:48:00 - [368] Originally by: Gutsani Originally by: Dracolich Originally by: Gutsani Xelas fought for its space, into the fountain alliance days, and i know that a long time ago but we are talking about history here. You do realize that Baun was part of FA? I am sure he remembers the history - and Xelas was not part of it - they were up north by that time. I am sure I remember this right... they moved down during the time to help, i'm unsure about what they actually done arround the time, but they were in fountain prior to FA pulling out. so they were part of the fight. They were never part of the fight. BoB fought FA, for a fair bit of time at that, but internal issues and a culling of the fat left FA a mere shadow of it's former self, even then until a few months back when the remnants of fa finaly decided enough was enough. they were still activly fighting. that could be construed as the termination of hostilities between FA and BoB near 3+years is it since Molle declared FA as dead? for Xelas it is 4 days from the time of a two word statement. I so came to party! Founding member of the "Gonna Gank a CareBear Alliance"
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:50:00 - [369] A few comments Xelas has long been a point of discussion in BoB, including senior BoB. Xelas senior leadership knows this, and has been well aware that they have been pushing limits, and doing so for a long time. Its not the first time a specific group has been targetted for eviction by BoB. The last time the true 'make or break' issue was recruiting standards. That recruiting standards are an issue (among other issues) this time does not surprise me. I've no doubt Xelas knew exactly what was required. On the other hand, I do NOT know if they got a "this is your last chance" message, but I DO know they have had a lot of chances. I really and truely wish them good fortune where ever they go. Play nice while you butcher each other.
Alfie Reeve	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:53:00 - [370] The fact that has not been reported is that Xelas pilots challenged Blue Flame about the Chinese isk farmers. He insinuated that Doomsday Corp was placed in Xelas by BoB and that it was non negotiable although they had restrictions. I know as a matter of fact that many Xelas pilots petitioned the legality of the isk farmers. Xelas did not falter, they were lead badly (the sacking of Deckard being a perfect example)and lied to on a daily basis. Many Xelas members are not unhappy with the turn of events and are only left to ponder what took BoB so long to eradicate such bad leaders from its association. The new tenants can learn from Blue Flames conduct that 'security' is not alternative jargon for 'lying', 'deception' and 'lining your own pockets at the expense of your members'. You should consider that likes of STC who in good faith have located an outpost and dedicated considerable resources to a lying landlord, who went to great lengths to mask the truth form its formulative corps.
Mr Nottcase	Posted - 2007.06.14 19:53:00 - [371] HA HAAA oh haha... just one more.. hahaaa omg xelas must be looking for new space.. stand in lines ppl be gentle dont all rush at once to recruit em.. oh and HAHAHAAAAA
Gerontiq Gallente Novastorm Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:04:00 - [372] Originally by: Baun Originally by: Gutsani Honestly, a 100man alliance is not an opponent .. Each time a decent opponent came to D2/G they rolled over instantly. Tell that to the 70 man corps that made Xelas lose 100s of members. Quote: Xelas fought for its space, into the fountain alliance days, and i know that a long time ago but we are talking about history here. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. sorry. BAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. Xelas fought FA? Are you on cr4ck? Quote: Xelas defended its space also, rubra/ascn/thealliance attacked em and they still are here. they maybe dont field 100 man fleets, but thats not something i would not expect from xelas at this point anyway. Xelas did not defend their space they just managed to retain a sufficient number of corps that were willing to bunker into NPC stations for long enough to survive. There is a difference between constantly losing and adding corporations while being camped into a station and fighting. Quote: point stands, XS > D2. unless you can give me something concrete rather then your biased bull****, i'm gonna stop replying to your comments now. Xelas barely qualifies as a related collection of corporations and you are seriously contending that they are a better alliance than D2? You are delusional. Hi Baun. good luck with the history rewrite :) Gerontiq "The only thing certain about this life, is having to get up for work in the other one in the morning"
Grim Faust Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:06:00 - [373] Lol, the future of 0.0 warfare is here, forget about kali2. All BoB needs to do these days is ask kindly and give someone a handful of days to vacate their region. I bet 9 times out of 10 you're going to see a conga line of haulers headed to empire within the hour. Quick quick, do FIX next!! __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message... colorful? -Sahwoolo ... =(
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:17:00 - [374] Originally by: Gerontiq Hi Baun. good luck with the history rewrite :) Fortunately the truth does not require me to rewrite history. I don't blame you, however, for not wanting to acknowledge just how crap your former alliance was. If I had been in Xelas I would certainly not want people to realize just how completely pathetic and worthless it was from day one. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Grim Faust Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:24:00 - [375] Originally by: Baun Originally by: Gerontiq Hi Baun. good luck with the history rewrite :) Fortunately the truth does not require me to rewrite history. I don't blame you, however, for not wanting to acknowledge just how crap your former alliance was. If I had been in Xelas I would certainly not want people to realize just how completely pathetic and worthless it was from day one. How about we agree upon this... Xelas sucked enough for BoB to want them to be gone. So, since BoB rules everything, you suck and should be gone according to them. Look at that, you suck and you're gone by sunday. It's just that easy. Right??? __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message... colorful? -Sahwoolo ... =(
Don ZOLA Caldari Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:25:00 - [376] Originally by: Baun Originally by: Gerontiq Hi Baun. good luck with the history rewrite :) Fortunately the truth does not require me to rewrite history. I don't blame you, however, for not wanting to acknowledge just how crap your former alliance was. If I had been in Xelas I would certainly not want people to realize just how completely pathetic and worthless it was from day one. have some mercy ffs, no matter how true it is, they are refugees, show some simpathees (sp?) :P
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:30:00 - [377] Originally by: Grim Faust Originally by: Baun Originally by: Gerontiq Hi Baun. good luck with the history rewrite :) Fortunately the truth does not require me to rewrite history. I don't blame you, however, for not wanting to acknowledge just how crap your former alliance was. If I had been in Xelas I would certainly not want people to realize just how completely pathetic and worthless it was from day one. How about we agree upon this... Xelas sucked enough for BoB to want them to be gone. So, since BoB rules everything, you suck and should be gone according to them. Look at that, you suck and you're gone by sunday. It's just that easy. Right??? Thats certainly what happened. I was just trying to hammer home just how much they sucked because it has astounded me from the first time I fought them. No need to belabor this ... its not like you can really argue with it with a straight face. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Gerontiq Gallente Novastorm Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:47:00 - [378] Edited by: Gerontiq on 14/06/2007 20:47:05 Originally by: Baun Originally by: Grim Faust Originally by: Baun Originally by: Gerontiq Hi Baun. good luck with the history rewrite :) Fortunately the truth does not require me to rewrite history. I don't blame you, however, for not wanting to acknowledge just how crap your former alliance was. If I had been in Xelas I would certainly not want people to realize just how completely pathetic and worthless it was from day one. How about we agree upon this... Xelas sucked enough for BoB to want them to be gone. So, since BoB rules everything, you suck and should be gone according to them. Look at that, you suck and you're gone by sunday. It's just that easy. Right??? Thats certainly what happened. I was just trying to hammer home just how much they sucked because it has astounded me from the first time I fought them. No need to belabor this ... its not like you can really argue with it with a straight face. bitter much? EDIT : Novastorm left Xelas and Fountain a year or so ago. We would like to wish IITI the best of luck; can't really comment much on many of the the others. Gerontiq "The only thing certain about this life, is having to get up for work in the other one in the morning"
Zakalwe FinFleet	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:48:00 - [379] Originally by: SirMolle We urge you to use the time from now until then to make other arrangements. Arrangements : adverb, from the verb "arranger" : litt : put things together in a positive way. Slang : Im gonna arrange you, litt : im gonna beat you so hard that... Hmmm... not in the name of my Corp/Alliance
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:50:00 - [380] Edited by: Robert Dobbs on 14/06/2007 20:49:26 Here's a song about these turn of events. Right click, save target as --------- <Talon`dor\|Work> Arma - yeah but we call BNC dirty boosterhoes
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:57:00 - [381] Edited by: Baun on 14/06/2007 20:56:10 Originally by: Gerontiq bitter much? As I said, don't people have more than one insult? There are many to choose from. As long as you are being baseless and dodging the thrust of someone's posts to insult them you might as well be a bit more creative. In any case, what exactly do I have to be bitter about with regards to Xelas? That FA lost fountain? We lost that to ATUK ---> BoB (with some nice help from Shinra and Imperium to some extent), Xelas had nothing to do with it. If I had lost a Nyx I paid a 20+bil premium for because I was arrogant enough to solo gate camp with it in 0.0 now then I might just be bitter generally. Fortunately that hasn't happened to me. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Trainwreck INC.	Posted - 2007.06.14 20:59:00 - [382] Edited by: Mud Pandemonium on 14/06/2007 20:58:59 Alot of people are saying Xelas should have put up a fight, but why? If I'm wrong about this do not hesitate to correct me, I'd rather be made to look like a fool than to remain ignorant. Didn't Fountain belong to Band of Brothers in the first place? Weren't Xelas just taking care of it for them? Don't get me wrong here nobody wants to be booted out of their home, but weren't they just renters? If my landlord decided he didn't want me living in this apartment building anymore doesn't he have the right to evict me? Yeah, sure Xelas could have put up more of a fight, hell that would have been interesting and I know a whole lot of people would like to have seen it happen (It still could though, right?) however, aren't they atleast saving face by bowing out? To me it says "Yes, we understand you no longer desire us to be caretakers, we will depart peacefully." I'm sure alot of BoB and Xelas pilots have mutual respect for eachother, an amicable parting is to be expected, no? EVE sure is confusing sometimes. We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Arenis Xemdal Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.14 21:00:00 - [383] Originally by: Baun Just becuse I don't find this surprising does not mean I have claimed to understand WHY you are doing this. Indeed, I could care less why you are doing this. My comments are squarely focused on bidding good riddance to the worst long lived alliance in EVE history. If you care to dispute that characterization then I will gladly debate you. Yes I dispute it. You having over 15 replies in this thread says you're investing effort; meaning you care about something; meaning you've said more than goodbye. Shortest debate in history tbh.
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.14 21:02:00 - [384] Originally by: Arenis Xemdal Yes I dispute it. Proceed disputing it sir. As you note I have posted alot explaining just how fantastically awful Xelas was as an entity within EVE. Since you apparently do not agree I welcome anything you have to offer that is more than an assertion of such. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Gerontiq Gallente Novastorm Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.14 21:10:00 - [385] Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 14/06/2007 20:56:10 Originally by: Gerontiq bitter much? In any case, what exactly do I have to be bitter about with regards to Xelas? That FA lost fountain? We lost that to ATUK ---> BoB (with some nice help from Shinra and Imperium to some extent), Xelas had nothing to do with it. The way I remember it Bob and co may have taken Fountain from you, but Xelas sure as hell stopped you from getting it back. With occasional help from our friends, just like you continually tried to make friends to bring them in on us. One thing that is sad to see (from the political perspective I find myself in now) is that people who behave like you do on the forums and in local make the anti-bob coalition look bad. And I sure as hell loved blowing people like you up when I was in Xelas. Although, of course, Xelas never did anything to you, and in fact sucked so bad that AHAHAHAHA NOOBZ!!!1111 is the only thing that can be said about then, really. Have a nice day. Gerontiq "The only thing certain about this life, is having to get up for work in the other one in the morning"
Detaitiv Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.14 21:12:00 - [386] A.X. thinks Baun has to have interest in something to go on about it for 15+ posts? I thought he would've taken the time to know you better, Baun.
Purgatori Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.14 21:12:00 - [387] gl fatal, gl fix i guess your time is soon also :)
Baugoti Amarr Middle Finger Technology Ghosts Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.14 21:19:00 - [388] good luck xelas in wherever u go best of luck
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.14 21:25:00 - [389] Originally by: Gerontiq The way I remember it Bob and co may have taken Fountain from you, but Xelas sure as hell stopped you from getting it back. With occasional help from our friends, just like you continually tried to make friends to bring them in on us. How can a dead alliance take space back? BoB did not leave Fountain until nothing but BIG (with no PvPers), Rez and Colsup were bassically all that was left in the alliance (unless you want to count that corp run by Hunter Globalgateways .... that guy belonged in Xelas actually). If you really think that your merry band of commically bad EVE players had anything to do with the death of one of the first three mega powers in EVE yet allowed itself to be camped into A-1CON by a tiny PvP corporation then I don't know what to tell you. Quote: One thing that is sad to see (from the political perspective I find myself in now) is that people who behave like you do on the forums and in local make the anti-bob coalition look bad. And I sure as hell loved blowing people like you up when I was in Xelas. Thats a highly ironic statement. Its alliances like Xelas that make BoB pets look like asshats. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Citriz Singularity.	Posted - 2007.06.14 21:25:00 - [390] Originally by: papaPadla Seeing that the coalition failed (again and again) to do anything, BOB takes this step to help them. We are invading BOB space and will conquer all stations just to show you how is done That almost got me in trouble at work i was laughing so hard.

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