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PeveS
The Edge Foundation
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Posted - 2007.06.14 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kinsy Edited by: Kinsy on 14/06/2007 07:47:35 Can we do clean up duty?
I don't care for the why and im not wasting time asking questions; we'll find out in due course. But this is long, long, long overdue.
norman protector is the only good thing to come out of Xelas, even if he had to farm isk to lose 5 domis a day, at least he knew where the fun was at 
True. Like some other Xelas who where always up for a fight.
As for GBC! You really think you are different from the most of Xelas? Dont think so! Last time i had a even matched fight was a long time ago!
Btw... I cant understand why this this eve community is changed this much. Eve is about fun and playing the game. Not all of us are 24/7 hard core pvp-ers! If you want to achive something you need to work for it. Some do it by being 24/7 online. Others use pets or isk farmers.
Respect is what this game needs again.
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:00:00 -
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This is not even remotely surprising but yet still hilarious.
Xelas is the worst alliance in the history of EVE to have survived as long as it has. They survived only at the whim of BoB and, presuming BoB doesn't let them move to another part of its space or otherwise defend them, they will now die. Good riddance.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny 101 Hi Deckard.
I would like to see the look on his face tbh.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Dave White
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dave White on 14/06/2007 14:05:48
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Darknesss I almost feel sorry for you, then i remember you were BoB pets... let this be a lesson to all pets?
Listen to this one guys. Advice from one bob pet to another. 
We don't have BoB or any other members of the alliance blue (becides YouWhat, but they were blue even before the war)...but yeah...if you'd like to think of us as bob pets, be my guest.
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Jonny 101 Hi Deckard.
I would like to see the look on his face tbh.
For the last time.
HE WAS KICKED.
Fallen Angel's Recruitment |

Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dave White Edited by: Dave White on 14/06/2007 14:04:31
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Darknesss I almost feel sorry for you, then i remember you were BoB pets... let this be a lesson to all pets?
Listen to this one guys. Advice from one bob pet to another. 
We don't have BoB or any other members of the alliance blue...but yeah...if you'd like to think of us be my guest
Hehe dude, it was just an internal joke... we know who you shoot but we still like to poke fun at ya Besides, Drantis dared me to post it 
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Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Baun This is not even remotely surprising but yet still hilarious.
Xelas is the worst alliance in the history of EVE to have survived as long as it has. They survived only at the whim of BoB and, presuming BoB doesn't let them move to another part of its space or otherwise defend them, they will now die. Good riddance.
i disagree, xelas actually meant "something" up till like +- 6-9 months ago, there are far worse alliances in eve.
for example KOS and TS, who never were any different then xelas is today. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |

Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dave White Edited by: Dave White on 14/06/2007 14:05:48
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Darknesss I almost feel sorry for you, then i remember you were BoB pets... let this be a lesson to all pets?
Listen to this one guys. Advice from one bob pet to another. 
We don't have BoB or any other members of the alliance blue (becides YouWhat, but they were blue even before the war)...but yeah...if you'd like to think of us as bob pets, be my guest.
Ignoring bitter ppl is a blessing , dotn mind fredo he is still trying to catch up with his mighty RZR nanod fleet who got no home now so it makes him feel good to slander others who are claiming space now.
History is often whined about by losers. Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

celtibero
Caldari Tiger Tiger Strike team
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Some of these replies are stupid. BOB has not stabbed Xelas in the back. BOB has allowed Xelas to live in fountain, rent free for a very long time and defended them from outside aggression. I don't see how BOB now asking them to leave and giving them almost 5 days notice is a stab in the back. It is a region generally recognised as being controlled by BOB, do they not have a right to put in place someone else?
I'd say forcing them out to get 2 free Outposts is a betrayal, just like when they forced the Horde out to set up their own outpost....
hmmm Horde being forced to put an oupost and Horde being evicted has much more to it than the OP question... lemme summarize it:
1- BoB my have mentioned it as a reason for eviction, if it is so then that reason is pure bull, Horde would have eventually put up an OP if DICE hadnt gonne in everyones back and put theirs in fountain where Horde was due to put up its one (BoB wont say that DICE went on everyones back but they have to maintain a certain cohesion when it comes to the outside view)
2- Horde was expeled cause 1 of its corps was macro farming in delve, that corp was kicked right away BUT BoB still evicted Horde from fountain, 2d later the same macro farmers were joining XS and were left there till this day.
3- XS are double dealing, when Horde was evicted XS was definetely gloating in local and making everything possible (harassing, using bubble to prevent warp to g95 OP, difficulting removing of equip from fountain from Horde) to **** Horde, which they finally did and Horde started shooting on XS
4- XS always tried to lay claim to Griffin that at the time was a BoB concession to The Huns, they did so by sending a corp there despite knowing The Huns held Sov. there by BoB consession, the only person which had any power to negotiate that asset was me (or BoB) which we never did, so Blue Flame is a a backstabber in my book.
5- XS always had an issue with Huns and Horde, suits them well, in the end BoB finnaly sees that XS is mroe a liablility than an advantage, shame it comes so late.
6- oh yes im gloating now, XS deserves it so  -----------------------------------------------
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UGWidowmaker
Caldari Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: UGWidowmaker on 14/06/2007 14:13:04 lol
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Adam Weishaupt
Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Adam Weishaupt on 14/06/2007 14:20:19
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Not much gonna happen in fountain, the china farmes gonna get into a npc corp again, the other xelas corps are joining aftermath or AXIOM.
no?
So your not accepting ppl that are now xleas or where xelas 24 hours ago? I thought you where good allies and stood togheter and all the bla
I don't see why any alliance, anywhere, would unconditionally accept members of another alliance who jump ship when they get into trouble. And the farmers will, hopefully, find that the cloak nerf will severely limit their profitability.
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celtibero
Caldari Tiger Tiger Strike team
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: celtibero on 14/06/2007 14:17:52
Originally by: UGWidowmaker Edited by: UGWidowmaker on 14/06/2007 14:13:04 lol
lemme translate: "i dont know what the hell he is saying, so ill just laugh so i can fool other ppl (more likely just fool myself) so that they may eventually think that what the guy is saying is pure bull"
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We Make war so we may live in peace |

Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Dave White Edited by: Dave White on 14/06/2007 14:05:48
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Darknesss I almost feel sorry for you, then i remember you were BoB pets... let this be a lesson to all pets?
Listen to this one guys. Advice from one bob pet to another. 
We don't have BoB or any other members of the alliance blue (becides YouWhat, but they were blue even before the war)...but yeah...if you'd like to think of us as bob pets, be my guest.
Ignoring bitter ppl is a blessing , dotn mind fredo he is still trying to catch up with his mighty RZR nanod fleet who got no home now so it makes him feel good to slander others who are claiming space now.
No, I was harmlessly joking about it to see who'd fall for it in a hurry. You were number one even though it was after I spoiled it. 
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:22:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Proxay
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Jonny 101 Hi Deckard.
I would like to see the look on his face tbh.
For the last time.
HE WAS KICKED.
And that changes what we have said how?
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Twoside
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Twoside on 14/06/2007 14:24:56 Edited by: Twoside on 14/06/2007 14:24:10
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Ignoring bitter ppl is a blessing , dotn mind fredo he is still trying to catch up with his mighty RZR nanod fleet who got no home now so it makes him feel good to slander others who are claiming space now.
History is often whined about by losers.
Aaaww, poor thing, you took the bait. Besides, it's all Drantis his fault, he's a real naughty guy that wears women underwear.
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George Petsch
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Dave White Edited by: Dave White on 14/06/2007 14:05:48
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Darknesss I almost feel sorry for you, then i remember you were BoB pets... let this be a lesson to all pets?
Listen to this one guys. Advice from one bob pet to another. 
We don't have BoB or any other members of the alliance blue (becides YouWhat, but they were blue even before the war)...but yeah...if you'd like to think of us as bob pets, be my guest.
Ignoring bitter ppl is a blessing , dotn mind fredo he is still trying to catch up with his mighty RZR nanod fleet who got no home now so it makes him feel good to slander others who are claiming space now.
History is often whined about by losers.
OH GOD FRED0 WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?????!!!!ONEONE 
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Shivalla
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Twoside Edited by: Twoside on 14/06/2007 14:24:56 Edited by: Twoside on 14/06/2007 14:24:10
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Ignoring bitter ppl is a blessing , dotn mind fredo he is still trying to catch up with his mighty RZR nanod fleet who got no home now so it makes him feel good to slander others who are claiming space now.
History is often whined about by losers.
Aaaww, poor thing, you took the bait. Besides, it's all Drantis his fault, he's a real naughty guy that wears women underwear.
edit: missed a brack
Awwwww, poor Razor sods, Forum fighting like kids on a sandbox, awwww, you look so cute when you try to be witty... <3 Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

DeckardIRL
Bombshell Cartel
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: DeckardIRL on 14/06/2007 14:29:48
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Jonny 101 Hi Deckard.
I would like to see the look on his face tbh.
I left Xelas several days ago.
I have no comments to make.
Deck
Edit: Ignore Proxay as normal
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:31:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Gutsani
Originally by: Baun This is not even remotely surprising but yet still hilarious.
Xelas is the worst alliance in the history of EVE to have survived as long as it has. They survived only at the whim of BoB and, presuming BoB doesn't let them move to another part of its space or otherwise defend them, they will now die. Good riddance.
i disagree, xelas actually meant "something" up till like +- 6-9 months ago, there are far worse alliances in eve.
for example KOS and TS, who never were any different then xelas is today.
How much time have you spent fighting Xelas? They have never meant anything whatsoever. They have never fought for the space they lived in and they never made any attempt to defend it themselves. I would be in for the shock of my life if they even made an attempt to stand up to BoB instead of just leaving at this point.
When they were installed in Fountain they were pushed to the brink of death by a tiny group of players before BoB placed conquerable stations. Even then they have never shown any will to do anything of substance for themselves.
I don't know about you, but its a good sign that you have found the worst alliance in EVE history when a forum post from another alliance leader is all that is required to completely kill that alliance. I would hesistate to actually call them an alliance, however, as all they were was a lose conglomeration of corporations that wanted to make money in Fountain without having BoB shoot them. If you take away that part they naturally become nothing; which is what you will observe in the next few days.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Alexi Borizkova
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:34:00 -
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I see several possible reasons for xelas being given the boot. Most of them have already been pitched. One that has not, however, is this: it is a test.
Arguably bob have little to lose and quite a bit to gain by ousting xelas, in ways that have been pointed out by others. Additionally however, this tests the loyalty of all renters/vassals/pets. If they see xelas being booted as the beginning, they could rebel and bring about a great war (which bob wants). If they are inclined to do this, then the chances of them rebelling at some other point in the future at an imconvenient moment is quite high.
If the rest of their... shall we say, asset alliances, meekly accept the fate of xelas on whatever rationale, if any, bob gives, this speaks to their pliancy and dependability for the future, letting bob make plans with more certainty.
Xelas could be a trial for excercising any of their problematically strong asset alliances, perhaps even the mighty MC (one hell of a challenge!) or Fix, down to a complete genocidal purging of other alliances, or perhaps a new scutage policy, strongarming asset groups not prone to actively defending their rented space into paying even more, ostensibly to pay for its defense.
Purging xelas: uncharacteristic bout of ethics, or clinical trial for greater depths of villainy? We shall wait and see.
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Icomeinpeace
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:34:00 -
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Jesus, I don't think the tinfoil hats are strong enough for this one...
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Gutsani
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Baun
How much time have you spent fighting Xelas? They have never meant anything whatsoever. They have never fought for the space they lived in and they never made any attempt to defend it themselves. I would be in for the shock of my life if they even made an attempt to stand up to BoB instead of just leaving at this point.
When they were installed in Fountain they were pushed to the brink of death by a tiny group of players before BoB placed conquerable stations. Even then they have never shown any will to do anything of substance for themselves.
I don't know about you, but its a good sign that you have found the worst alliance in EVE history when a forum post from another alliance leader is all that is required to completely kill that alliance. I would hesistate to actually call them an alliance, however, as all they were was a lose conglomeration of corporations that wanted to make money in Fountain without having BoB shoot them. If you take away that part they naturally become nothing; which is what you will observe in the next few days.
Your history of Xelas seems limited to the last 5 months in eve. Thats all i have to add to it, and my point still stands; Xelas is NOT the worst alliance ever in eve history. They did however fall deep.
The fact this forum post is all that is required to kill em doesnt changes alot, isnt that all what was required to start the dead of your alliance? W'll talk in 5 months .. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |

Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:42:00 -
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This is the most hilarious thread on EVE-O. Xelas is by far the most worthless alliance in the game, and without BOB holding their hand, they will fall apart.
Good move BOB.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
No, I was harmlessly joking about it to see who'd fall for it in a hurry. You were number one even though it was after I spoiled it. 
You presume i care about what you think same as you belive you are part of an 0.0 alliance who isnt bitter , ohh wait  Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Proxay
Yes; everyone speculate, as we've always said *Xelas don't pay rent.
Yous paid with outposts, pwned.
Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/ |

Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Fred0
No, I was harmlessly joking about it to see who'd fall for it in a hurry. You were number one even though it was after I spoiled it. 
You presume i care about what you think same as you belive you are part of an 0.0 alliance who isnt bitter , ohh wait 
Do you guys have more than one insult? Surely you can find a second word to call enemies that do not immediately start humping your leg when they lose some space can't you?
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Popsikle
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Icomeinpeace Jesus, I don't think the tinfoil hats are strong enough for this one...
That explains my headache. We need tech 3 hats to protect our poor heads ;(
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Popsikle
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Fred0
No, I was harmlessly joking about it to see who'd fall for it in a hurry. You were number one even though it was after I spoiled it. 
You presume i care about what you think same as you belive you are part of an 0.0 alliance who isnt bitter , ohh wait 
Do you guys have more than one insult? Surely you can find a second word to call enemies that do not immediately start humping your leg when they lose some space can't you?
Does sore losers fit your description?
oh btw; "The Enemy's Gate is Down"!!
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Astarte Nosferatu
MBN Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:51:00 -
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I'm not a big fan of SirMolle, but today, you made me smile .
I always like it when arrogant pets get doublecrossed.
Originally by: Dianabolic I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP
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Dal Thrax
Caldari Multiverse Corporation The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.06.14 14:53:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Car Wars bobs just claiming constellations for the upcoming sovereignty stuff, will be a fortress down south, enjoy.
If I were BoB I'd be a bit worried about the possibility of limits to the number os systems you can claim sov in as was hinted about in the Dev Blog.
Tbh, I think its more the isk selling thing than anything else.
Dal Things I learned playing PnP RPGs:
1)Always assume that the players will bring the maximum available firepower against a peaceful objective.
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